femichill:

He might be right. There is no where in the new testament that the Bible ask christians to pay tithe. This is not coincidence. Tithe is a personal decision

And there is nowhere in the same New Testament where Christians are told not to pay tithe. This means it holds. Stopping Christians from paying tithe is the same as speaking when God has not spoken.

alBHAGDADI:
Was agricultural produce the spoils of war that Abraham tithed? Did he eat out of it?

Do you have biblical evidences to show otherwise? ...quote the Bible and stop saying what u feel

This men where Jews and Deuteronomy 14,22-29 is how jews pay tax

If u have any other evidence bring it out

Please I need a verse in the Bible were Jesus paid or collected tithe during his time,

MrPresident1:
Luke 10:27-29,37
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

Luke 10:37
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him . Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The weightier matters of the law is judgment, mercy, and faith: in these is righteousness imbued, not in legalistic tithe paying that promotes hypocrisy.

That is not true. Read that passage of the scriptures with open mind because your mind is made to think one direction. Jesus never condemned tithing at all

bomsilaga:
What beats me is that only pastors are Levites and I am not.
Tithing before it became an institution was the name given to a tenth part of anything and was not attached to spiritual activity.
Abraham gave just once never a pattern
Jacob didn't even fulfill his promise of tithe.
Isaac never tithed
Comparatively Jesus called tithe a law.
If greed reduces, there are various allowed ways to make money as ministers of the gospel properly enshrined in the scriptures.

You didn't read the OP at all.

Perhaps, you want the entire Bible to be filled with the amount of times Abraham paid tithe because there aren't other stories to write about. As for Jacob, who are you to say he didn't fulfill it?

If you're very sure of yourself go and engage Freeze in a public debate Freeze has been looking for whom to hold a public debate with about tithing go and accept his challenge trust me if you win you're going to have the largest congregation in this country in which I doubt but if you lose don't come back to Nairaland

woblow1:
Please I need a verse in the Bible were Jesus paid or collected tithe during his time,

Go and read the OP.

dermmy:


You are a great man

No! I am not! The Lord is!!

Great is the Lord and greatly to be praised!

I merely try to rightly divide the word of God by the Holy Ghost. The vessel is not what matters but the content. I am a mere vessel willing to be used by the Master, Jesus.

Until you tithe mongers can show us where Jesus or any of his disciples received tithe from their followers, you are just wasting your time repeating an already discredited argument. Tithe is a scam; the more you fraudsters continue to spin the Bible to justify it, the more disgrace and humiliation you will continue to get.

shegra58:
If you're very sure of yourself go and engage Freeze in a public debate Freeze has been looking for whom to hold a public debate with about tithing go and accept his challenge trust me if you win you're going to have the largest congregation in this country in which I doubt but if you lose don't come back to Nairaland

Go and tell him about me. Show Jim this article and tell him to debunk it here on Nairaland, not on his Instagram page where he has power to block opposing views.

Why does it always have to be Daddy freeze lied? Can't it be what the Bible says about tithe?

alBHAGDADI:


Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:7.

"For they are not all Israel which are of Israel; neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children… but the children of promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9:6-8.

The children of promise are those who put their faith in Jesus. It's in the Bible: "And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise" Galatians 3:29.

Verses in simple terms yet you ascribe spiritual to it. It simple means not all Israelite believes in Jesus for those who don't, they can't be called a true Israelite.

MrPresident1:


2 Corinthians 11:6

But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge;

Chairman, se won o ti gba oju e ri l'oshodi? You sef fit chop slap if you nor take time o

Oya bring d slap. Put bottle of wine join am

seunmsg:
Until you tithe mongers can show us where Jesus or any of his disciples received tithe from their followers, you are just wasting your time repeating an already discredited practice. Tithe is a scam; the more you fraudsters continue to spin the Bible to justify it, the more disgrace and humiliation you will continue to get.

If you had read the OP, you would have seen that Jesus received tithe long before it became a practice of the law, that's why he never condemn it when he came to earth. Now, if he never condemned it, who are you to condemn it? Who are you to speak when the most high hasn't spoken?

hoopLA:

Spiritual Levite?
Lol.
You dey mind that garrulous impostor?
We never heard that in the new testament. Paul never mentioned that o.

In case he doesn't know, our priesthood order is of Christ who, if we must have anything to do with the lineage of Israel, was of the the tribe of Judah. Christ cannot accept any sacrifices as commanded in the Law because he is not a Levite. Somehow these liars want to impose spiritual jargon on us to justify their nonsense.

I been dey respect the guy self but this him write up na complete trash, to think that i even follow him

Maga must pay sha
Even if them go western union and warn them, them no go listen o

You went dallying and not straight on the topic. Jesus mentioned a tithe of mint, and other things meaning in those days it wasn't about paying cash but bringing other valuables unlike what we have now. Isn't it?

alBHAGDADI:
Go and tell him about me. Show Jim this article and tell him to debunk it here on Nairaland, not on his Instagram page where he has power to block opposing views.

No we want to see both of you on NTA not here on Nairaland and if you really want to counter his cliamed I think you know what to do you will not hide behind your phone on Nairaland and trust me if you succeed you're going to have followers

SweetJoystick:

Verses in simple terms yet you ascribe spiritual to it. It simple means not all Israelite believes in Jesus for those who don't, they can't be called a true Israelite.

As long as the biological Israelites don't believe Jesus is the Messiah and God, then they are not part of the new Israel which are God's people. We believe, that's why we have been made Israel through the spirit which made us born again. We became born again into the spiritual nation of Israel.

MrPresident1:


Use the brain that God gave you, commonsense should tell you what to do.

My neighbour is not my responsibility per se- come and see Christian. If you promote the indulgence of a lazy neighbour, are you showing him love?

MrPresident1 I don't think that guy is a christian, he's likely one of these people who see church as a business and probably has one business centre he calls church or he has been totally brainwashed,subdued and conquered by one thief that parades himself as a pastor

alBHAGDADI:


They are foolish because they have been deceived. Even the Bible calls people foolish. Are you now going to throw away the Bible because of that?

Please go back and read the OP to see how foolish they are.

and you intentionally left out the “crazy” part. But seriously, you have convinced yourself that if I don’t pay tithe, I will go to hell or what? Or I will not receive blessings? Because I know a lot of people who are not even Christians but are wealthier and more successful than most of us writing these things. What is your point exactly about tithe paying. Will I go to hell for not paying tithe, or will I not be blessed?

shegra58:
No we want to see both of you on NTA not here on Nairaland and if you really want to counter his cliamed I think you know what to do you will not hide behind your phone on Nairaland and trust me if you succeed you're going to have followers

I don't need followers. Tell him to openly stage a place for this debate and you will be amazed at the amount of people that will turn up.

alBHAGDADI:
If you had read the OP, you would have seen that Jesus received tithe long before it became a practice of the law, that's why he never condemn it when he came to earth. Now, if he never condemned it, who are you to condemn it? Who are you to speak when the most high hasn't spoken?

He received it as a Levi presumably, when he came in flesh for all to see as the Son of God, he was from Judah and that tribe of his never collected even till this day in Israel. Hence him never collecting tithe while he was on earth as Jesus.

alBHAGDADI:
And there is nowhere in the same New Testament where Christians are told not to pay tithe. This means it holds. Stopping Christians from paying tithe is the same as speaking when God has not spoken.

It doesn't hold. Our salvation is not based on Moses but Christ. And the early christians only give what they have for gospel. There is no fraction to it. If tithe is really necessary, do you think one of them would have not talk about it.
NOTE: am not against tithing, those who wish should do based on conviction. We only picked verse we are comfortable with in the Bible to suit us

lexy2014:

Oya bring d slap. Put bottle of wine join am

Moet & Chaldon Imperial for you

MrPresident1:
The house of God is the widows orphans the needy and all other kinds of people in need immediately around you and in the society. What Jesus is against is legalistic, self- righteous, pharisaical, hypocritical tithe paying, while abandoning the weightier matters of the law of God. When tithing is done in a legalistic way, it produces a self-righteous, indulgent and hypocritical attitude, this is not the purpose of God.

Matthew 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Your nearest neighbour is your responsibility, you cannot see him hungry and then carry your money to 'church', that hungry fellow is your church. If you want God's blessing, then make sure your neighbour is well fed, sheltered, and clothed. The society is the church, church is the society.

After all, our greatest purpose as Christians is to make heaven, so our tithing must be purposed in this direction too. When you do it to the least of the brethren, you have done it unto God

Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Mathew 25:34-34 
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

The King called him righteous, the one who fed clothed and sheltered his neighbour.

Then go and worship this needy person.. Don't be surprised that when you give this needy he will still pay his own tithe

Did u read about the poor widow that gave all she had

Why didn't she give it to another poor person...

My friend God bless you

oganoble:
and you intentionally left out the “crazy” part. But seriously, you have convinced yourself that if I don’t pay tithe, I will go to hell or what? Or I will not receive blessings? Because I know a lot of people who are not even Christians but are wealthier and more successful than most of us writing these things. What is your point exactly about tithe paying. Will I go to hell for not paying tithe, or will I not be blessed?

Where did I state all of the above?

hopefulLandlord:
Hmmmm

Christians arguing with each other about a topic when they all have holy spirit they can ask that would give them pure correct answer

Either they don't have this holy spirit of a thing or holy spirit is fictional. 30,000 Christian sects hahaha

dude, don't blaspheme against the holy spirit oh, remember it is the unforgivable sin.

Foolishness is when you send one tenth of your salary to your pastor when your parents are starving

alBHAGDADI:


Do you know what the problem os with you anti-tithers and everyone who believes the tithe money should be taken straight to widows and orphans instead of the house of God? You make decisions without Bible backings, in the process you offend God. Here you have said the house of God are widows and orphans. Where is that written in the Bible? You also said the society is the church. Where is that written in the Bible? Stop making claims based on your own understanding.

God said the tithe is his, he didn't say it is for widows even though he told the high priest to help the windows out of it. It is not your duty to give it to the widows because it means you are assuming the role of the priest. It is the duty of the priest to take some of the tithe and use it to help the needy.

Tithe is totally different from you helping the poor. Give God his dues and proceed to help the poor. Otherwise it will mean that you are wise in your own understanding.

And mind you, Jesus was talking about his brothers in that Bible Passage you quoted. Who are his brothers? They are believers, not some Tom divk and Harry across the street.

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

This means that his brothers whom we are to feed are actually needy Christians whom we can find in Church, not some random loser on the street who only wants to remain a junkie and lazy because he knows someone will feed him.

I will counter all you said with just this quotes of Jesus.

WHAT EVER YOU DO TO THE LEAST OF MY BROTHER, YOU DO UNTO ME


JESUS IS GOD..

Tithe to the keast of his brothers (poor, widow, helpless...) You do it unto him and your reward he clearly stated

alBHAGDADI:
You didn't read the OP at all.

Perhaps, you want the entire Bible to be filled with the amount of times Abraham paid tithe because there aren't other stories to write about. As for Jacob, who are you to say he didn't fulfill it?

And you expect one to believe that the early church took tithe even though it is not written