jomoh:


My N800billion was fabricated but I’m supposed to believe yours? You’re joking.

Go on my page and see the story as leaked by the almighty WIKILEAKS.

Actively? Lol. Do you even know the meaning of that word.

So what are you saying? That ATIKU cannot sponsor the violence because the north is known for sharia protests or what exactly is ur point cause it doesn’t exonerate him from the WIKILEAKS report.

This is my last reply to you. You’re only replying with emotional sentiments.

On oil subsidy.. Tolu Ogunlesi, a government official media manager referenced N350 billion liability. So my figures is correct

https://www.nairaland.com/4822893/debts-liabilities-inherited-buhari-admin

I will read up on the Wiki leaks later..

On Buhari, he openly campaigned and supported the Sharia call nationwide.. Isn't that active participation.
He can only be passive if he didn't put his voice to the struggle.

I only ask for Proofs, and you didn't provide a link to that.

Firstandonly:
reducing the minimum wage from 56k to 30k is enough reasonable understanding.

56k, 30k, 20k which one was proposed and actively fought for when Nigeria was earning $100/barrel?

Firstandonly:
if he has included it in 2019 budget why is the federal government now setting up a technical committee?

Committee to know if it can be funded. Budgeting and funding are two intertwined entities without one the other cannot exist in government.

The government has taken step on one part it only remains the most important part. FUNDING.

jmaine:


On oil subsidy.. Tolu Ogunlesi, a government official media manager referenced N350 billion liability. So my figures is correct

https://www.nairaland.com/4822893/debts-liabilities-inherited-buhari-admin

I will read up on the Wiki leaks later..

On Buhari, he openly campaigned and supported the Sharia call nationwide.. Isn't that active participation.
He can only be passive if he didn't put his voice to the struggle.

I only ask for Proofs, and you didn't provide a link to that.

Protest and violence are two different words. Don’t mix them.

I told you ATIKU sponsored violence not Atiku sponsored protest.

Anyone can sponsor or partake in protest but it takes a non repentant criminal and a crook to sponsor violence.

Ok I accept the subsidy figure.

Read the wiki leaks document coupled with the blatant lies PDP has been throwing arround them you’d know all these strikes are not beyond any PDP member to orchestrate.

Melaye kidnap
Fayose Sifia pain
Obi lies
Reno lies
FFK hate speech (he’s toned down since police invitation)
Secondus assasination attempt
Just too much to start mentioning.

studio14:
When Jonathan was in power Buhari was running his mouth anyhow now he hv seen that leadership is not moi-moi, although na Buhari good for Nigerians Jonathan want to remove subsidy tinubu hired all the musicians in Nigeria Falana was talking in channels now all of them had grown numb my advice to Buhari don't pay the minimum wage they will still chant sai baba sai baba

U don talk am finish my brother. Some Nigeria workers will still chant Sai Buhari even in the face of untold hardship... What a pity

jomoh:


My brother the bottom line of all this is the funding. if the NLC like they should jump and die, it will only remain a pipe dream if there’s no fund to finance it.

You said they’ve shown “reasonable understanding to the FG”? By this I believe you mean the previous FG that sold crude oil for an average of $100/barrel consistently for 6years. If they are considerate and reasonable, they won’t be hounding a government earning less than half($50 average) of what the previous government earned with minimum wage.

The facts are out there for anyone truthful enough to see.

You aren't sympathetic to the labour unions at all.. The labour unions have called off strikes with paper promises unlike the Oshiomhole rugged days. They backed down from their 55k demands to a modest 30k.

The last government by virtue of the high crude price and low Fuel price had a huge subsidy bills to pay and also invested a large chunk of that defending the naira and yet still increased the minimum.
So you see that the current FG has no excuse not to pay the current when they have shown they are even more wasteful than the Admin they replaced.

Has the average $50 crude oil price affected the current sleeze on our common wealth by the political class.. Where has the current N2T stamp duty vanished to?

You are largely sentimental and not being realistic and sympathetic to the valid suspicion of the labour union.

jomoh:


Protest and violence are two different words. Don’t mix them.

I told you ATIKU sponsored violence not Atiku sponsored protest.

A protest can become violent and violence can be deployed as a form of protest.

A antagonist of the miss world contest turned it into a VIOLENT protest.

jomoh:


I told you ATIKU sponsored violence not Atiku sponsored protest..

Then why is the APC not deploying this to maximum effect if it is correct.. Until I read and convinced by the reportage I won't believe it.

jomoh:


Read the wiki leaks document coupled with the blatant lies PDP has been throwing arround them you’d know all these strikes are not beyond any PDP member to orchestrate.

Melaye kidnap
Fayose Sifia pain
Obi lies
Reno lies
FFK hate speech (he’s toned down since police invitation)
Secondus assasination attempt
Just too much to start mentioning.

The APC did way worse Than all this men combined.. Tinubu and Lai Muhammed were the patrons of false alarm.. Have we all forgotten the 1,000 sniper stories and how Elrufai listed the order of killings..

It will be foolhardy to always heap the ultra unserious Ness and inefficiency of the APC on the PDP..

Heck, they even blamed the PDP for Buhari appointing his cabinet 6 months late even when the old man action were justified then by his "Ministers are noisemakers" utterance and using unequal references.

Na today lolz...

Apexgist:
The organised labour has given the Federal Government up to December 31 to send the tripartite committee report on N30,000 minimum wage to the National Assembly following a decision that was taken in Lagos on Thursday at a joint meeting of three labour centres—the Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC), Trade Union Congress (TUC) and the United Labour Congress (ULC).

Labour said the ultimatum followed President Buhari’s statement that a “high powered technical committee” would be set up to device ways of ensuring that the implementation of the new wage did not lead to an increase in the level of borrowing.

NLC President, Ayuba Wabba, who addressed newsmen after the meeting, said that setting up a technical committee could not be a condition for passing the minimum wage report to the National Assembly. According to Wabba, the organised labour cannot guarantee industrial peace and harmony in the country if the wage report was not passed for implementation on or before December 31.

“We reject in its entirety the plan to set up another `high powered technical committee’ on the minimum wage. It is diversionary and a delay tactics.

The national minimum wage committee was both technical and all-encompassing in its compositions and plan to set up a technical committee is alien to the tripartite process. It is also alien to the International Labour Organisations’ conventions on national minimum wage setting mechanism,’’ he said.

The labour leader said that issues on payment of minimum wage was a law that was universal, citing that other African countries like, Kenya, Ghana and South Africa had increased their minimum wage this year.


Source and see more here= https://www.naijanewsgist.com

Back to Daura is a must

AYUBA WABA himself is sabotaging workers' interest. He should have asked Adams Oshiomohle to teach him.
YOU CANNOT GET ANYTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT IF YOURE NOT STUBBORN. HOW COULD YOU DECLARE A STRIKE AND CALL IT OFF IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT ANYTHING TANGIBLE? JUST EMPTY PROMISE AND YOU QUICKLY JUMP TO CELEBRATE. YOU'LL FAIL IF YOU DON'T STICK TO GETTING SOMETHING FOR WORKERS.

jmaine:


You aren't sympathetic to the labour unions at all.. The labour unions have called off strikes with paper promises unlike the Oshiomhole rugged days. They backed down from their 55k demands to a modest 30k.

The last government by virtue of the high crude price and low Fuel price had a huge subsidy bills to pay and also invested a large chunk of that defending the naira and yet still increased the minimum.
So you see that the current FG has no excuse not to pay the current when they have shown they are even more wasteful than the Admin they replaced.

Has the average $50 crude oil price affected the current sleeze on our common wealth by the political class.. Where has the current N2T stamp duty vanished to?

You are largely sentimental and not being realistic and sympathetic to the valid suspicion of the labour union.

Honestly I’m sympathetic to their struggle just that the timing and the prime target(FG) is suspicious, especially when it is obvious the prime target has taken a step to show its commitment. What have they done to state governor who had refused? What did they do to state governors that are owing salaries.

Governance is not only about the FG alone. That is the problem we have in this country. We forget the state governments exists and we refuse to understand they closer to us than the FG thereby directly responsible for our sufferings. We give those fools the freedom to loot state funds dry while we concentrate too much on the FG.

Nlc toothless dog


Stoopid leaders

jomoh:
Buhari already included it in the 2019 budget so these people should quit the charade and stop playing to the gallery because of election.


It is obvious Atiku has strong holds on all facet of Nigerian government both the pressure groups and the ministries reason for majority of them springing up with different false claims or claims promised by previous government but didn’t fulfill which they didn’t do anything about at the time. If not that they’re being controlled why still making noice when the FG has included it in it budget but keeps quiet with state governors who has bluntly refused to bulge.

They’re all now coming out prior to election

NLC: kept mute when crude oil was selling high but are battling with government managing with very low price.

NLC: keeps mute with state governors who has refused to accept minimum wage but are issuing ultimatum to the FG that has included it in its budget.

ASUU: strike claims has been on ground since since 2007

ASUP: I don’t even know the purpose of their strike

Oil marketers: 800billion subsidy debt since 2013

My believe is that they’re all politically motivated.

An Atiku that could orchestrate the kaduna Miss world violence of 2003 will do anything to frustrate the government.

Atiku that claims Fulani herdsmen killings will continue if PMB is re-elected.

Zombie!where did d Dullard include it in d budget?.The fool wants to renegotiate.

jomoh:


Honestly I’m sympathetic to their struggle just that the timing and the prime target(FG) is suspicious, especially when it is obvious the prime target has taken a step to show its commitment. What have they done to state governor who had refused? What did they do to state governors that are owing salaries.

Governance is not only about the FG alone. That is the problem we have in this country. We forget the state governments exists and we refuse to understand they closer to us than the FG thereby directly responsible for our sufferings. We give those fools the freedom to loot state funds dry while we concentrate too much on the FG.

Lolz.. Any normal govt will be suspicious of any labour union strike now. Even the PDP admins felt the opposition were responsible.

You can't really blame the unions when they have been on this struggle since 2017..they know after elections the government won't care and they have to strike the iron while it is hot.

You point on the populace ignoring the State government and focussing entirely on the FG is very factual and the decentralization of the Polity will greatly reverse that sad trend.

jomoh:


Honestly I’m sympathetic to their struggle just that the timing and the prime target(FG) is suspicious, especially when it is obvious the prime target has taken a step to show its commitment. What have they done to state governor who had refused? What did they do to state governors that are owing salaries.

Governance is not only about the FG alone. That is the problem we have in this country. We forget the state governments exists and we refuse to understand they closer to us than the FG thereby directly responsible for our sufferings. We give those fools the freedom to loot state funds dry while we concentrate too much on the FG.

Unku, I have followed your comments on this thread and it is fitting to say most of them reek of partisanship...as for the issue raised in the second paragraph, I think you should be asking why the FG is not canvassing for true federalism which will decentralize the enormous amount of power concentrated at the FG level. After that, we can all justifiably and without recourse to the FG, hold state governments responsible for everything happening within their purview.

Anyway, regardless of the obvious partisan sentiments you bear, I have to say you sound quite intellectual in your arguments.
Cheers.

Compromised NLC.

ObservantFellow:


E be like say to trek from Mile 2 reach Apapa dey hungry you

Carry your juju use on your family brother! no vex, say some of us dey talk truth

APC will do the needful for NLC come December ending while ASUU first week of January

And APC will add these to deir achievements to win election

Why waiting till deadline

Why not implement it now and let's get over with it

jayson87:
Carry your juju use on your family brother! no vex, say some of us dey talk truth

Juju
Here I am referring to NURTW. What are you saying sef?

You should know the difference between appropriation law and minimum wage act. Not every appropriated amount translate to implementation. If everything we plan for in the budget is actually implemented, then there wouldn't be any problem.

First thing first, get the minimum wage act then you can pay as budgeted. If the MWA is not pass, govt can still be paying the old rate until the end of the fiscal year and you can do nothing about it.

jomoh:
Buhari already included it in the 2019 budget so these

people should quit the charade and stop playing to the gallery because of election.


It is obvious Atiku has strong holds on all facet of Nigerian government both the pressure groups and the ministries reason for majority of them springing up with different false claims or claims promised by previous government but didn’t fulfill which they didn’t do anything about at the time. If not that they’re being controlled why still making noice when the FG has included it in it budget but keeps quiet with state governors who has bluntly refused to bulge.

They’re all now coming out prior to election

NLC: kept mute when crude oil was selling high but are battling with government managing with very low price.

NLC: keeps mute with state governors who has refused to accept minimum wage but are issuing ultimatum to the FG that has included it in its budget.

ASUU: strike claims has been on ground since since 2007

ASUP: I don’t even know the purpose of their strike

Oil marketers: 800billion subsidy debt since 2013

My believe is that they’re all politically motivated.

An Atiku that could orchestrate the kaduna Miss world violence of 2003 will do anything to frustrate the government.

Atiku that claims Fulani herdsmen killings will continue if PMB is re-elected.

Just don't know why Nigerian workers can't get higher pay like other African countries.

Toothless bulldog!

jomoh:


I told you ATIKU sponsored violence not Atiku sponsored protest.

Anyone can sponsor or partake in protest but it takes a non repentant criminal and a crook to sponsor violence..

Excerpts from your Wikileaks reference invalidates your absolute stance and assertion that Atiku Abubakar, sponsored violent protests in the North in the early 2,000

10. (C) COMMENT: While Makarfi's allegations about the VP's and NSA's roles in fomenting sectarian violence are disturbing, it is important to keep in mind the source of the information. Makarfi and Atiku have long been competitors. Indeed, many saw Makarfi as Atiku's likely replacement if Obasanjo dropped the VP. It is possible that political animosity may have influenced Makarfi's search for the cause of unrest in his state.

jayson87:
NLC- the toothless bulldogs.

Call any labor action this time ... you are on your own

No mind those baggaz. Playing Nigerian workers like say they be kids.

They should go thank their God say I no be civil servant. I for wait for them to come close my office say they are embarking on strike.

Na thunder for strike 'em all.

AkoloPeters:
You should know the difference between appropriation law and minimum wage act. Not every appropriated amount translate to implementation. If everything we plan for in the budget is actually implemented, then there wouldn't be any problem.

First thing first, get the minimum wage act then you can pay as budgeted. If the MWA is not pass, govt can still be paying the old rate until the end of the fiscal year and you can do nothing about it.

Simple question.

If during the year 2019 the minimum wage law is passed but the money is not provided for in the budget where does the government get money to pay?

You people and the thieves in the NASS will still be the ones to shout corruption. That FG is spending without appropriation(impeachable offense).

If the government refused to pay after passing the law because the money is not provided for, you people be the thieves in the NASS and PDP will be shouting that the government doesn’t want to pay after the Minumum wage law has been passed.


Budget comes once in a year except for emergency funding where supplementary is sent but laws can be passed and repassed multiple times in a year. The FG has shown commitment and optimism already.

Bamibor:

Unku, I have followed your comments on this thread and it is fitting to say most of them reek of partisanship...as for the issue raised in the second paragraph, I think you should be asking why the FG is not canvassing for true federalism which will decentralize the enormous amount of power concentrated at the FG level. After that, we can all justifiably and without recourse to the FG, hold state governments responsible for everything happening within their purview.

Anyway, regardless of the obvious partisan sentiments you bear, I have to say you sound quite intellectual in your arguments.
Cheers.

No where in the world will you see the executive arm of the government canvassing for lesser power. Let the thieves in the NASS canvass for it. After all they’re the ones that will still pass the law. It will be fairly easy.


Let people put pressure on other arms of government eg state governors. It is these same state governors that mostly end up in the senate but because they felt no pressure as a governor, they see no need to canvass for it.

We don’t have to wait until we have federalism before we start putting pressure on governors. Federalism won’t change our mentality. We need to start demanding accountability for the huge funds they receive monthly from the federation account. If they don’t have much they are doing with it, then they should reduce their percentage of the sharing formula.

What we actually need is constitutional review.

jmaine:


Lolz.. Any normal govt will be suspicious of any labour union strike now. Even the PDP admins felt the opposition were responsible.

You can't really blame the unions when they have been on this struggle since 2017..they know after elections the government won't care and they have to strike the iron while it is hot.

You point on the populace ignoring the State government and focussing entirely on the FG is very factual and the decentralization of the Polity will greatly reverse that sad trend.

I don’t remember any strike in 2015 build up to election(I may be wrong but I don’t remember) except for the oil marketers.

The governors are using that as an opportunity to greatly enrich themselves. It is very alarming.

If only the governors do their part we will have little or no problem with the FG.

jmaine:


A protest can become violent and violence can be deployed as a form of protest.

A antagonist of the miss world contest turned it into a VIOLENT protest.



Then why is the APC not deploying this to maximum effect if it is correct.. Until I read and convinced by the reportage I won't believe it.



The APC did way worse Than all this men combined.. Tinubu and Lai Muhammed were the patrons of false alarm.. Have we all forgotten the 1,000 sniper stories and how Elrufai listed the order of killings..

It will be foolhardy to always heap the ultra unserious Ness and inefficiency of the APC on the PDP..

Heck, they even blamed the PDP for Buhari appointing his cabinet 6 months late even when the old man action were justified then by his "Ministers are noisemakers" utterance and using unequal references.

Na today lolz...

The source may be doubtful but we’ve not seen either Atiku or the monguno come out to deny it.


Obj confirmed the hit list and true to that PMB was attacked and shot at.


A man who doesn’t know where he’s coming from will never know where he’s going to.

It’s on record that the administration complained of non corporation during the handing over. Even the transition committee members also complained.

Even in an organized setting D.Trump blamed the previous government let alone in a very messy environment like ours.

jomoh:
Buhari already included it in the 2019 budget so these people should quit the charade and stop playing to the gallery because of election.


It is obvious Atiku has strong holds on all facet of Nigerian government both the pressure groups and the ministries reason for majority of them springing up with different false claims or claims promised by previous government but didn’t fulfill which they didn’t do anything about at the time. If not that they’re being controlled why still making noice when the FG has included it in it budget but keeps quiet with state governors who has bluntly refused to bulge.

They’re all now coming out prior to election

NLC: kept mute when crude oil was selling high but are battling with government managing with very low price.

NLC: keeps mute with state governors who has refused to accept minimum wage but are issuing ultimatum to the FG that has included it in its budget.

ASUU: strike claims has been on ground since since 2007

ASUP: I don’t even know the purpose of their strike

Oil marketers: 800billion subsidy debt since 2013

My believe is that they’re all politically motivated.

An Atiku that could orchestrate the kaduna Miss world violence of 2003 will do anything to frustrate the government.

Atiku that claims Fulani herdsmen killings will continue if PMB is re-elected.

All you wrote are mere assumptions about Atiku. What heat PMB is receiving is what he and his party sowed