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subhanallah, That book is above my means but will make a 5 STAR read !
Good for eemaan
Taqwa!

^^^
£25 excluding shipping I think. Not that bad, hoping to get it soon.

LadunaI:
^^^
£25 excluding shipping I think. Not that bad, hoping to get it soon.

I don't know yet when I will come home (to Nigeria). Its a thing I can help you get here as its far more cheaper.

AlBaqir:
I don't know yet when I will come home (to Nigeria). Its a thing I can help you get here as its far more cheaper.

Ok... that's good to know. Let see may be by next month Insha Allah, if you're still there. I will let you know when I am ready thanks.

ikupakuti:
@emekaRaj,

LMAO..

I said it! You‘ll soon become another Solomon...all hail the king of Isreal & Palmyra!

But seriously, one cant be a consumated mystic and not be familiar with those entities with all those litanies one engages in day & night.

You see, with no iota of vainglory I‘m an authourity in numerology & mystical astrology to the extent that when ever I read books of the predecessors of these fields, they look like novices to me cos I didnt learn anything from anybody, its just a gift from God sharpened with lots of azkar & piety.

I can extract the name of anything, even if its from a stone unless I dont know its atomic configuration.

But my defect is that, my KASHF is not strong enough or let me say not the type I want.

You should try & learn numerology to enhance your special gift.

Numbers rule the core of existence, being from the realm of eternity, with only one realm above it. Thats why it has a begining & no ending.

Don't advise him to be like Suleiman A.S, the messager of Allah S.A.W has once tried to capture a just a single jinn messing with him in prayer but as he was about to do that, he remembered the dua of prophet Suleiman to Allah S.A.W so he let it go. Advice him to use his karaamat to help people, and be careful not to fall into shirk, and stay away from disguised scholars and the use of Amulets

najib632:
Don't advise him to be like Suleiman A.S, the messager of Allah S.A.W has once tried to capture a just a single jinn messing with him in prayer but as he was about to do that, he remembered the dua of prophet Suleiman to Allah S.A.W so he let it go. Advice him to use his karaamat to help people, and be careful not to fall into shirk, and stay away from disguised scholars and the use of Amulets

He was only joking tho.... But that's a very good advice to everyone who has similar gift. Once u can do this, Allah will always be by ur side. It's a very tough job,because the jinns are always using tricks and illusion to get u to commit shrik and they never give up. But they are powerless, I like tough job, just to show them, 1 power, even as big as a speck of dust they dnt hav. They are only good at illusion. There's is no power except with Allah.

Salam

emekaRaj:
He was only joking tho.... But that's a very good advice to everyone who has similar gift. Once u can do this, Allah will always be by ur side. It's a very tough job,because the jinns are always using tricks and illusion to get u to commit shrik and they never give up. But they are powerless, I like tough job, just to show them, 1 power, even as big as a speck of dust they dnt hav. They are only good at illusion. There's is no power except with Allah.

Salam

Wa'alaikum salaam

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Lol

What Is Ise Alfa?

https://www.facebook.com/ThinkBigConceptsMC/videos/1024830534368808/UzpfSTQwNTU1NDkyMzEzMDI2NTo4NTQ3NDkxNTgyMTA4Mzc/?epa=SEARCH_BOX

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Please what the future hold for me. my orphan virgin girl broke up with me and lost her virginity to a different guy after our 16 months of best relationship ever. i promised to never betray her luv as she always asks me to swear and never have sex with her until we get married. she lost her virginity to the guy because he promised to marry. i now cry every day and night for betraying my trust and losing her virginity to a different person after all her promises. please walis in the house should help me. may ALLAH bless u all as u profer solution to my dying soul.

Abujalal:
Please what the future hold for me. my orphan virgin girl broke up with me and lost her virginity to a different guy after our 16 months of best relationship ever. i promised to never betray her luv as she always asks me to swear and never have sex with her until we get married. she lost her virginity to the guy because he promised to marry. i now cry every day and night for betraying my trust and losing her virginity to a different person after all her promises. please walis in the house should help me. may ALLAH bless u all as u profer solution to my dying soul.

things happen. It is hard to say this but I will be frank with you. Move on. I know it hurts. But move on and block all her means of communication with you. Lose her number, too. She did what she did by choice. You can't force yourself on her. Move on and watch to see if she crawls back to you after she's betrayed and dumped by her so called lover. Just wish her good luck and move on. Your case is not unique.


NOTE: My suggestion is base on information you provided. May Allah comfort you

Empiree:
things happen. It is hard to say this but I will be frank with you. Move on. I know it hurts. But move on and block all her means of communication with you. Lose her number, too. She did what she did by choice. You can't force yourself on her. Move on and watch to see if she crawls back to you after she's betrayed and dumped by her so called lover. Just wish her good luck and move on. Your case is not unique.


NOTE: My suggestion is base on information you provided. May Allah comfort you

May ALLAH reward u too

Abujalal:
Please what the future hold for me. my orphan virgin girl broke up with me and lost her virginity to a different guy after our 16 months of best relationship ever. i promised to never betray her luv as she always asks me to swear and never have sex with her until we get married. she lost her virginity to the guy because he promised to marry. i now cry every day and night for betraying my trust and losing her virginity to a different person after all her promises. please walis in the house should help me. may ALLAH bless u all as u profer solution to my dying soul.

lost her virginity to another person based on promise...no actual nikah took place. #weak

my brother she wasn't strong enough for you.


Good dudes like us get this type of ish all the time.

It sucks brother.
Move on and cut all communications with her.
Block and delete her
rejuvenate ur mind and feelings with more dhikr.

They are better gurls with strong imann out there.

Allah Alam

Dreydoe:
lost her virginity to another person based on promise...no actual nikah took place. #weak

my brother she wasn't strong enough for you.


Good dudes like us get this type of ish all the time.

It sucks brother.
Move on and cut all communications with her.
Block and delete her
rejuvenate ur mind and feelings with more dhikr.

They are better gurls with strong imann out there.

Allah Alam

may ALLAH reward u abundantly. someone said she was being charmed by her new lover

Abujalal:
may ALLAH reward u abundantly. someone said she was being charmed by her new lover

ameen brother.
Charmed in what way?
Vodoo (VERY UNLIKELY)
money (maybe)

This century we are in now sha.
Most people even among us Muslims seem to term sex before nikah as normal stuff.
The pressure is ridiculous.

Brother but I must confess to you.

Before you start dating any sister make sure you are ready.
Financial wise
and do the nikah sooner than later.

lots of brothers are losing out fast this days because of this.

Most of this our girls are ready for marriage.
They are more sexually hormonal than men. #biologicalfact

After investing time, little money you are managing, feelings and emotions into the relationship, no matter how hard they fall for you,
They will leave for another person that is ready.

Either a new guy they just met or their 2nd choice who is ready for nikah. They follow them sharp and live the first brother hanging and messed up!

who can really blame them?

This is another reality happening out there now.


Allah Alam

LadunaI:
^^^
£25 excluding shipp

emekaRaj


Received this interesting email from anonymous NL member today.

This goes to show there are people reading posts anonymously and truly appreciate efforts.

Empiree:
emekaRaj


Received this interesting email from anonymous NL member today.

This goes to show there are people reading posts anonymous and truly appreciate efforts.

Wow! That is interesting. The truth is, I do the same 're-reading most of our posts here, and I continued to gained more insight. Infact the last time I was stucked at pg 5 trying to drive home the concept of ruyaniya based on different post and stories you and Ikupakuti have said on that issue.

Pls do try and be posting more on ihzan as the writer of that email said, I will always try to chipping my little contribution because that's when I get enthused posting, as most of discussion/topic here hardly get my spirit "resonates" lol.

Perhaps you can start telling us more about those heart melting stories. I was totally carried away last time reading how meticulously you wrote those stories you narrated to us then. You're always a good narrator though

LadunaI:
Wow! That is interesting. The truth is, I do the same 're-reading most of our posts here, and I continued to gained more insight. Infact the last time I was stucked at pg 5 trying to drive home the concept of ruyaniya based on different post and stories you and Ikupakuti have said on that issue.

Pls do try and be posting more on ihzan as the writer of that email said, I will always try to chipping my little contribution because that's when I get enthused posting, as most of discussion/topic here hardly get my spirit "resonates" lol.

Perhaps you can start telling us more about those heart melting stories. I was totally carried away last time reading how meticulously you wrote those stories you narrated to us then. You're always a good narrator though

Lol...I just try to remember as much as I can. Some of them faded away or slightly remember full incident like encounters with alagemo at ijebu ode btw 1990-92. I was present outside with my younger brother when that happened.

Just couldn't remember everything unless I ask my sheikh. As for Alfa I told you about in (ilorin base) regarding this previous conversation

LadunaI:
This was exactly the position of Imam Ghazali(ra) then before he decided to engage more on tasaawuf inorder to experience it, and them see if there is any substance in Sufis claim. The Imam got more than he bargained for and he was convinced about the veracity of Sufi experience. However, he was guided more because of his deep knowledge of sharia Islamic jurisprudence hence able to avoid pitfalls many Sufi fell into.



I think I love this intention, and perhaps this will serves as a safeguard not to fall into shirk really. But they normally lack the will power to follow thru to see for themselves if those claims are true or false.

Actually am still struggling to differentiate these entities. I am kinda leaning towards belief that generally a Muslims jinn are called rawaniya. Coincidentally, 2 days ago when I was going thru our discussion on previous thread I was particularly stuck at Khodam/ruhaniya stuff trying to do more research on it. I haven't got enough evidence or material on it as I really like. Hopefully with time am going to get more stuffs on it.

He's learned obviously. He told me some stuff and clarifications on the issue of alagbigba (ayewo) and istikhara and ruhaniyun. He insisted ruhaniyun are not Jinn. Plus my Sheikh said jinn give lots of charm than Dua.

His conclusion was that the bottom line is belief system. As long as it is not corrupted. As in judgment is clouded and you start seeing everything is God or rely on Angels, Jinn, ruhaniya or whatever besides Allah. That's where problems kick in. He said differences today are very simple to resolve but it won't bcus everyone wants to draw crowd to their ideology

Empiree:
His conclusion was that the bottom line is belief system. As long as it is not corrupted. As in judgment is clouded and you start seeing everything is God or rely on Angels, Jinn, ruhaniya or whatever besides Allah. That's where problems kick in. He said differences today are very simple to resolve but it won't bcus everyone wants to draw crowd to their ideology

Yeah! I think Ikupakuti also made mention of this earlier that the belief system has to be safe guarded from corruption. And one should always rely as ultimate decider.

What do you mean by alagbigba (ayewo)?

Empiree:
His conclusion was that the bottom line is belief system. As long as it is not corrupted. As in judgment is clouded and you start seeing everything is God or rely on Angels, Jinn, ruhaniya or whatever besides Allah. That's where problems kick in. He said differences today are very simple to resolve but it won't bcus everyone wants to draw crowd to their ideology

Yeah! I think Ikupakuti also made mention of this earlier, that the belief system is what it's so important which has to be safe guarded from corruption. And one should always rely on Allah as ultimate decider.

What do you mean by alagbigba (ayewo)?

LadunaI:
What do you mean by alagbigba (ayewo)?

Some Alfa call them that. Didn't know the meaning before self. Álágbígbá are soothsayers. I guess it is another Yoruba word for "yéwoyéwo". I am against it bcuz there is clear hadith on it. This young alfa too is against it. However, not all inquiries are un-Islamic. This young alfa breaks it down like ikupakuti did. I cited examples of alfas who criticized iyepe tite like sheikh Ahmed Alaye(ra). Sheikh Yahya solati(ra) and others and also cited sheikh Daud Alfa nla but Alfa Nla breaks it down into 2. So this young alfa said that's what he was expecting for me say. He said indeed it is divided into two. We talked at length but unfortunately fb/whatspp lines from his side were just static which made it difficult for me to get full message. He talked about istikhara involving dreams which puritans dont acknowledge. They only acknowledged 2 rakat istikhara. We talked about another form he inherited from old man called baba onitada(not sure if you know him). I put up his pictures with Alfa Nla in my thread.

What about istikhara of making inquiries about someone?. Someone comes to you for spiritual assistance, you can't just take his or her situation on top of your matter. There may be risks with that fellow that may affect you and your family. Thats why you make this inquiries to see if this is something you can handle or not. Western world tapped this from islam. A guy comes to you seeking spiritual help, you gotta ask for his full name and mother's name to pull his record which tells you everything and possible pending attacks on the fellow before you decide to go further or not. This is not haram (niyah is very important). This is precaution provided is it within sharia.

Same thing in western world. You apply for a loan. They ask you to submit your full name, mother maiden's name and your ssn to pull your credit record to determine your creditworthiness. They don't just give you loan. Credit determines how much you get and rate they will charge. I don't want to go into details of this bcus the person involved is non muslim NL member who sent me email weeks ago seeking help. There lots of people reading our posts. So i referred him to alfa in question and thats where i learned more. Nkan nbe faah.

But i am against muslims going to alawo for such request since it is obvious they would call on their deities for sure. Let me narrate my quick experience in ilorin. I was walking down with my friend from my rented apt to his house late night. Say btw 11 and 12. There is one old woman always made jokes with her husband in the day. She never for once wore her headscarf properly. I dont mean like hijab type but Yoruba type. She always placed her scarf on her forehead and looked down. Never for once saw her face. So this night, for some reason she was still up late night and sat outside. The hood was so quiet that you can hear a pin drop (sarcasm). So we were walking down and this old woman called us out saying "come come come here". She was calling us while looking down. Asked my partner if she was calling us?. He said of course but she is calling you(me). "Hell, no." i said. igbawo ni ipade were ati asinwin Me i dey go and come jejeli minding my business. I dont want trouble. This is not my hometown. Abeg, free me. I kept walking and the woman called out again saying "you (pointed at me), it is you i am calling". I looked other way and kept walking.

Two days later my brother came from ijebu that my sheikh needed my attention back home. You know, there was no cell phones back then. I said 'okay, mo ti gbo'. I was expecting him to sleep over and leave in the morning but he insisted that he wanted me to come home that night. He actually arrived in ilorin night time after Ishai and expected me to board that night to ijebu which was 4hrs at that time. I am sure the distance is reduced now due to road repairs. Anyways, i followed him and abandoned my fresh pot of soap. The thing pained me bcuz by the time i returned 2 weeks later, the thing don turn green and foul smell. I got home that night a bit after midnight. My sheikh was still up waiting for us to arrive.

The news kinda saddens me. The incident was based on dream by my sister who lived in Lagos at the time had. Remember i said in my previous post(s) that i am not blessed with dreams but if people around me dream something about me, positive or negative, i dont take it lightly. Her dream was about me laying dead on the ground and she cried her eyes out. She was scared and ran to ijebu to relate the incident. My sheikh made inquiry (you understand this). Thats why he sent for me to come home. He refused to tell me outcome of his investigation. He only explained what he wanted to do. Simply, a simple standing prayer outside in the sun facing qibla lasted 5 mins. He told me other stuff he said he wanted to do before i returned to ilorin but he didnt do it. When i was about to leave for ilorin i reminded him but he said that was enough.

I was in the dark about what really happened. I was so curious and upset at the same time bcus others were looking at me like a dead man walking. My elder brother asked me if i felt or noticed strange things when in ilorin?. I said nope. Of course i didnt notice anything except for old woman incident but that was not significant to me. Didnt know the old woman was actually right. She called me for a reason but i knew not. So i returned to ilorin and decided to dig further. I had two closed friends. One is my age mate and he is alfa. He is from Abeokuta but came to ilorin to study keu. His 'brother' is 3 yrs younger than me. He is the one walking with me the night that old woman called us. I know this young guy is not too learned islamically but i am so free to say anything around him than Taslim (from Abeokuta). So i briefed Laitan, the young guy what happened. He didnt really want to hear. He quickly said let me take you to boda Tunde. I thought brother Tunde was Alfa or sheikh.

As far as i am concerned, the way i seen ilorin was it is 100% Muslim capital. I didn't expect to see christians or other religions. This was my thought ever before i traveled to ilorin in late '97. But when i rented my room around Gari Alimi, i noticed Christians. My neighbors in the same house were Christians and was even visited by Jehovah witnesses 4 times.

So me and Laitan went out. He took me to Brother Tunde. The area is "agbole" from one corner to another here and there. I was thinking to myself 'where are we going'. Here he is, brother Tunde. Just a normal yoruba guy wearing simple agbada type with sokoto sofe, probably in his late 20s. I was only 20 at the time. I even said to him "salaam alaikum". Whether he heard or not, he simply did not reply. My mind was that Laitan is taking to me Alfa. Remember Laitan is just a teenager, slightly taller than me, absolutely light skinned like myself but he got 10 kobo brain . He must be big man now. Hope to see him and Taslim again, in sha Allah. Malim (Masjid leader and his family member) called us 'brothers' but called me 'bororo'. I earned that title from him. When Sheikh Agbarigidoma passed away i was the first to break the news to them on my way to school early in the morning after i heard the news on Alhaji Ali Agan's program who said the sheikh just passed away mins ago. Na so everyone dey say "bororo" broke the news.

We went inside Brother Tunde's room and behold! he is 100% babalawo. I dont mean mischievous Alfa. He is not Alfa. This is my first time ever setting my eyes on alawo rituals den, exactly the way it is in the movies. I only seen them in the movies but never in the real world despite being from Ijebu bcus we are Muslims in my family and had nothing to do with Yoruba culture or religion except cultural dances in school. Thats it. I was confused for a few seconds. Thought to myself this guy was supposed to take me to Alfa ni ke?. But i didnt want to raise eyebrows. I go with the flow.

Brother Tunde handed me a little piece of thing like cowry. Told me to say something to it after placing money. Told him I am only a student. Still getting little stipend from papa. He said 'dont worry..just any amount.' Five naira was valuable at the time and i remembered placing #5 on his ifa wooden plate. It is exactly like Yoruba movies and still couldn't believe a whole muslim like me in this situation?. Anyways, i collected cowry from him and as far as i am concern, i am a muslim and very well aware of hadith which speaks about salat of a muslim who visits soothsayer and believes in what he tells him has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad(saw).

Or

“Whoever goes to a soothsayer and asks him about something and believes him, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh). Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen(ra) gave 3 categories of those who visit fortunetellers, of one of which is not kufr. So basically i was well aware of this hadith at the time. Few years ago on "Jinn Stories" thread opened by tbaba, tbaba accused me of this kind of thing when i narrated my experiences. He said "this kind of things (shirk, fortunetellers, awo, agemo etc) are paramount in ijebu side due to story of ruhaniya i narrated. He assumed i had something to do with alawo stuff not knowing that Islam has more, a lot more to offer beyond daily obligatory salat, zakat, ramadan, hajj. We have our spiritual part in Islam. We have the idea of consulting Alfa in islam. Don't let this new ideology in town tells you there is nothing like that. There are people, who after finishing salah, stand up and go back to their activities. There are people on the other hand who, after finishing salat, sit down and make Istighfar. These are warasikhuna fil ilmi, the Muttaqun. These are the people you go to for your problems. Let them help you speak to God. We are not equal. Some are closer to Allah than others.


When i grabbed his cowry, I am used to saying lots of salawat a lot from childhood. So the first thing i said quietly was send salam on the prophet(saw) 10x. I didnt even know what else to say after that and handed back his cowry. He said his deities stuff bla bla bla bla bla bla until he said "e la han mi" At some point i thought i was acting yoruba movies the way the whole thing played out. After he finished everything he was very true. He described xyz involved and insisted if i wasn't sure he would give more details about the family descriptions and point out specific fellow. I said go ahead and tell me. He did and identified two people. Of the two people, he said the tall one acts crazy and runs her mouth but that's all she got. She has no evil intention towards anyone. To be honest, i know the person he referred to. His descriptions were correct. And in real world i have no problems with the fellow either. I only preferred to stay away from he/she due to character differences. Brother Tunde proceeded and described the second one as short and very quiet. Wallahi he was right. He said this is the one. You and this fellow dont get along and at the same time you dont confront one another either. Again, he is right. I know the fellow he is talking about. But i did not act like i was excited about his findings. I was just looking like dummy but i understood him well. But from my expression he thought i doubted him. Because of my reaction, he said if i am not sure of his findings, if i can afford #5000 and come back to him, he would call the fellow's spirit and i will see him/her live and ask the fellow questions i want. Wallahi, that kinda got me excited. i wanted to see that movie . It was gonna be fun but i got no money. But, again, I pretended and played dumb. I simply did not want to give him some sort of credit.

I asked him if the fellow would know if he calls his/her spirit and i speak to him/her?. Brother Tunde said 'absolutely'.



continued....

^^^
Interesting...

Empiree:
So me and Laitan went out. He took me to Brother Tunde. The area is "agbole" from one corner to another here and there. I was thinking to myself 'where are we going'. Here he is, brother Tunde. Just a normal yoruba guy wearing simple agbada type with sokoto sofe, probably in his late 20s. I was only 20 at the time. I even said to him "salaam alaikum". Whether he heard or not, he simply did not reply. My mind was that Laitan is taking to me Alfa. Remember Laitan is just a teenager, slightly taller than me, absolutely light skinned like myself but he got 10 kobo brain . He must be big man now. Hope to see him and Taslim again, in sha Allah. Malim (Masjid leader and his family member) called us 'brothers' but called me 'bororo'. I earned that title from him. When Sheikh Agbarigidoma passed away i was the first to break the news to them on my way to school early in the morning after i heard the news on Alhaji Ali Agan's program who said the sheikh just passed away mins ago. Na so everyone dey say "bororo" broke the news.

We went inside Brother Tunde's room and behold! he is 100% babalawo. I dont been mischievous Alfa. He is not Alfa. This is my first time ever set my eyes on alawo rituals den exactly the way it is in the movies. I only seen them in the movies but never in the real world despite being from Ijebu bcus we are muslim in my family and had nothing to do with Yoruba culture or religion except cultural dances in school. Thats it. I was confused for a few seconds. Thought to myself this guy was supposed to take me to Alfa ni ke?. But i didnt want to raise eyebrows. I go with the flow.

Brother Tunde handed me a little piece of thing like cowry. Told me to say something to it after placing money. Told him I am only a student. Still get little stipend from papa. He said 'dont worry..just any amount.' Five naira was valuable at the time and i remembered placing #5 on his ifa wooden plate. It is exactly like Yoruba movies and still couldn't believe a whole muslim like me in this situation?. Anyways, i collected cowry from him and as far as i am concern, i am a muslim and very well aware of hadith which speaks about salat of a muslim who visits soothsayer and believes in what he tells him has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad(saw).

Or

“Whoever goes to a soothsayer and asks him about something and believes him, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh). Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen gave 3 categories of those who visit fortunetellers, of one of which is not kufr. So basically i was well aware of this hadith at the time. Few years ago on "Jinn Stories" thread opened by tbaba, tbaba accused me of this kind of thing when i narrated my experiences. He said "this kind of things (shirk, fortunetellers, awo, agemo etc) are paramount in ijebu side due to story of ruhaniya i narrated. He assumed i had something to do with alawo stuff not knowing that Islam has more, a lot more to offer beyond daily obligatory salat, zakat, ramadan, hajj. We have our spiritual part in Islam. We have the idea of consulting Alfa in islam. Don't let this new ideology in town tells you there is nothing like that. There are people, who after finishing salah, stand up and go back to their activities. There are people on the other side who, after finishing salat, sit down and make Istighfar. These are warasikhuna fil ilmi, the Muttaqun. These are the people you go to for your problems. Let them help you speak to God. We are not equal. Some are closer to Allah than others.


When i grabbed his cowry, I am used to saying lots of salawat a lot from childhood. So the first thing i said quietly was send salam on the prophet(saw) 10x. I didnt even know what else to say after that and handed back his cowry. He said his deities stuff bla bla bla bla bla bla until he said "e la han mi" At some point i thought i was acting yoruba movies the way the whole thing played out. After he finished everything he was very true. He described xyz involved and insisted if i wasn't sure he would give more details about the family descriptions and point out specific fellow. I said go ahead and tell me. He did and gave me two people. Of the two people, he said the tall one acts crazy and runs her mouth but that all she got. She has no evil intention towards anyone. To be honest, i know the person he referred to. His descriptions were correct. And in real world i have no problems with the fellow either. I only preferred to stay away from he/she due to character differences. Brother Tunde proceeded and described the second one as short and very quiet. Wallahi he was right. He said this is the one. You and this fellow dont get along and at the same time you dont confront one another either. Again, he is right. I know the fellow he is talking about. But i did not act like i was excited about his findings. I was just looking like dummy but i understood him well. But from my expression he thought i doubted him. Because of my reaction, he said if i am not sure of his findings, if i can afford #5000 and come back to him, he would call the fellow's spirit and i will see him/her live and ask the fellow questions i want. Wallahi, that kinda got me excited. i wanted to see that movie . It was gonna be fun but i got no money. But, again, I pretended and played dumb. I simply did not want to give him some sort of credit.

I asked him if the fellow would know if he calls his/her spirit and i speak to him/her?. Brother Tunde said 'absolutely'.



continued....

you should write a book.
glued

Empiree:
So me and Laitan went out. He took me to Brother Tunde. The area is "agbole" from one corner to another here and there. I was thinking to myself 'where are we going'. Here he is, brother Tunde. Just a normal yoruba guy wearing simple agbada type with sokoto sofe, probably in his late 20s. I was only 20 at the time. I even said to him "salaam alaikum". Whether he heard or not, he simply did not reply. My mind was that Laitan is taking to me Alfa. Remember Laitan is just a teenager, slightly taller than me, absolutely light skinned like myself but he got 10 kobo brain . He must be big man now. Hope to see him and Taslim again, in sha Allah. Malim (Masjid leader and his family member) called us 'brothers' but called me 'bororo'. I earned that title from him. When Sheikh Agbarigidoma passed away i was the first to break the news to them on my way to school early in the morning after i heard the news on Alhaji Ali Agan's program who said the sheikh just passed away mins ago. Na so everyone dey say "bororo" broke the news.

We went inside Brother Tunde's room and behold! he is 100% babalawo. I dont been mischievous Alfa. He is not Alfa. This is my first time ever set my eyes on alawo rituals den exactly the way it is in the movies. I only seen them in the movies but never in the real world despite being from Ijebu bcus we are muslim in my family and had nothing to do with Yoruba culture or religion except cultural dances in school. Thats it. I was confused for a few seconds. Thought to myself this guy was supposed to take me to Alfa ni ke?. But i didnt want to raise eyebrows. I go with the flow.

Brother Tunde handed me a little piece of thing like cowry. Told me to say something to it after placing money. Told him I am only a student. Still get little stipend from papa. He said 'dont worry..just any amount.' Five naira was valuable at the time and i remembered placing #5 on his ifa wooden plate. It is exactly like Yoruba movies and still couldn't believe a whole muslim like me in this situation?. Anyways, i collected cowry from him and as far as i am concern, i am a muslim and very well aware of hadith which speaks about salat of a muslim who visits soothsayer and believes in what he tells him has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad(saw).

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“Whoever goes to a soothsayer and asks him about something and believes him, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.” (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh). Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen gave 3 categories of those who visit fortunetellers, of one of which is not kufr. So basically i was well aware of this hadith at the time. Few years ago on "Jinn Stories" thread opened by tbaba, tbaba accused me of this kind of thing when i narrated my experiences. He said "this kind of things (shirk, fortunetellers, awo, agemo etc) are paramount in ijebu side due to story of ruhaniya i narrated. He assumed i had something to do with alawo stuff not knowing that Islam has more, a lot more to offer beyond daily obligatory salat, zakat, ramadan, hajj. We have our spiritual part in Islam. We have the idea of consulting Alfa in islam. Don't let this new ideology in town tells you there is nothing like that. There are people, who after finishing salah, stand up and go back to their activities. There are people on the other side who, after finishing salat, sit down and make Istighfar. These are warasikhuna fil ilmi, the Muttaqun. These are the people you go to for your problems. Let them help you speak to God. We are not equal. Some are closer to Allah than others.


When i grabbed his cowry, I am used to saying lots of salawat a lot from childhood. So the first thing i said quietly was send salam on the prophet(saw) 10x. I didnt even know what else to say after that and handed back his cowry. He said his deities stuff bla bla bla bla bla bla until he said "e la han mi" At some point i thought i was acting yoruba movies the way the whole thing played out. After he finished everything he was very true. He described xyz involved and insisted if i wasn't sure he would give more details about the family descriptions and point out specific fellow. I said go ahead and tell me. He did and gave me two people. Of the two people, he said the tall one acts crazy and runs her mouth but that all she got. She has no evil intention towards anyone. To be honest, i know the person he referred to. His descriptions were correct. And in real world i have no problems with the fellow either. I only preferred to stay away from he/she due to character differences. Brother Tunde proceeded and described the second one as short and very quiet. Wallahi he was right. He said this is the one. You and this fellow dont get along and at the same time you dont confront one another either. Again, he is right. I know the fellow he is talking about. But i did not act like i was excited about his findings. I was just looking like dummy but i understood him well. But from my expression he thought i doubted him. Because of my reaction, he said if i am not sure of his findings, if i can afford #5000 and come back to him, he would call the fellow's spirit and i will see him/her live and ask the fellow questions i want. Wallahi, that kinda got me excited. i wanted to see that movie . It was gonna be fun but i got no money. But, again, I pretended and played dumb. I simply did not want to give him some sort of credit.

I asked him if the fellow would know if he calls his/her spirit and i speak to him/her?. Brother Tunde said 'absolutely'.



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You can't leave us high and dry here, man You got us intrigued already, so you've got to continue.

EGBON EMPIREE NO BE FILM WE DEY WATXH NOW WE ARE THIRSTY FOR MORE SIR

YUNGCONCEPT11:
EGBON EMPIREE NO BE FILM WE DEY WATXH NOW WE ARE THIRSTY FOR MORE SIR

yes, sure. I will complete it in Sha Allah. I am on a trip and my net service slowed down a little. If I get good WiFi I will continue or will complete it when I'm back.

aadoiza:
You can't leave us high and dry here, man You got us intrigued already, so you've got to continue.

of course I will complete it. I have been preparing for a long trip for a week now and was really busy few days ago. Currently in Germany and I'm out of my network stronghold. Took long to even post this one. Just loading loading and loading. Will be in nice WiFi area soon

Hmm..*grabs pop corn

Empiree:
of course I will complete it. I have been preparing for a long trip for a week now and was really busy few days ago. Currently in Germany and I'm out of my network stronghold. Took long to even post this one. Just loading loading and loading. Will be in nice WiFi area soon

All right, then. Please take your time.
Hmm, already rubbing me palms together...