{Isaiah 40:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God.
{John 1:23} "John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, 'I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.''"
{Isaiah 40:28} Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, The Creator of the ends of the earth.
{Colossians 1:15-17} He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
{Isaiah 41:4} Who has performed and done it, Calling the generations from the beginning? ‘I, the Lord, am the first; And with the last I am He.’ {Revelation 22:13}I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
In the Old Testament and the New Testament "There is only One God!!!

Barristter07:

Go and make a research on " Lord " at Deu 6:4 and stop embarrassing yourself

The first picture is people enjoying their day at a celebration.
The second picture is two people walking along the beach and found a Watchtower magazine, before someone took the photo, catching the magazine..
The third picture were three ladies walking through a car park before entering into a festival, someone had noticed their unusual clothing so they stood there with them and a friend took the shot!
The forth picture, are ladies standing there for a photo shoot, after realising the booths were empty!
None of these pictures prove these are actually JW's!

TATIME:
@ brocab
If you're seeing pictures of Jehovah's Witnesses on social media, we are only joyful that we're able to worship JEHOVAH in the public. In some lands Jehovah's Witnesses are secretly worshipping in the hidden just like the 7,000 contemporaries of Elijah back in Samaria.
So the pictures signifies our freedom of worship in those places!

brocab:
The first picture is people enjoying their day at a celebration.
The second picture is two people walking along the beach and found a Watchtower magazine, before someone took the photo, catching the magazine..
The third picture were three ladies walking through a car park before entering into a festival, someone had noticed their unusual clothing so they stood there with them and a friend took the shot!
The forth picture, are ladies standing there for a photo shoot, after realising the booths were empty!
None of these pictures prove these are actually JW's!

True Christians are just to make presentation of their FAITH, but when it comes to pointless arguments true Christians walk away without saying a word. Philippians 2:14, Colossians 2:4, 1Timothy 6:4,Titus 3:9
As for those who feels the need to argue, well it's good for your health to argue when you just feel like ARGUING!

TATIME:
True Christians are just to make presentation of their FAITH, but when it comes to pointless arguments true Christians walk away without saying a word. Philippians 2:14, Colossians 2:4, 1Timothy 6:4,Titus 3:9
As for those who feels the need to argue, well it's good for your health to argue when you just feel like ARGUING!

False jw liars are of course false christians
You only fool yourself

johnw47:


False jw liars are of course false christians
You only fool yourself

It is well in Jesus name!

TATIME:
It is well in Jesus name!

however no liar is well in Jesus name
that leaves false jw's out

johnw47:


however no liar is well in Jesus name
that leaves false jw's out

Well it's like Jesus is to be the judge NOT any sinful human like you and i. So i'll ADVICE you to allow Jesus judge that case!

TATIME:
Well it's like Jesus is to be the judge NOT any sinful human like you and i. So i'll ADVICE you to allow Jesus judge that case!

duh, i call a spade a spade, and a lover of lies you certainly are:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw47:


duh, i call a spade a spade, and a lover of lies you certainly are:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Sorry for your problems!

No one is arguing, the fact's are you deny the truth about Christ-there's nothing you could say-besides producing some magazine pictures, trying to prove the JW's are actually making a difference.
If they are JW's? I gave you men in action-you gave me people without a voice in pictures, and you sit down and judge!
I have given you a video of men actually witnessing to JW's while the JW's sat on a bridge, a video you have refused to watch! This is all they do is sit on bridges sitting besides bill broads saying nothing to nobody' while people were walking past all day long.
If these men refused to listen to the Lord, then I suppose the JW's would have pack up and gone home empty handed, but something changed that day-they were given the Word of God-something to think about, and if they were smart and read the bible, they may have questioned it, tested it, who knows, these lost souls may now be saved in Christ::: If these men sat on the bridge just like the JW's did-or stand on the street corners, watching people pass by without saying a word, then no-one would hear the truth about Christ?
The Lord always see's an opportunity, He opens doors everywhere-The Lord see's everything, He sent two men over to have a conversation with the JW's, these men stood for Christ while the heat was beating down on them-while the JW's sat under the shade refusing to offer them shade or a drink of cold water to help with their thirst..

TATIME:
True Christians are just to make presentation of their FAITH, but when it comes to pointless arguments true Christians walk away without saying a word. Philippians 2:14, Colossians 2:4, 1Timothy 6:4,Titus 3:9
As for those who feels the need to argue, well it's good for your health to argue when you just feel like ARGUING!

TATIME:
Sorry for your problems!

saying the truth is no problem at all, oh continual speaker of lies and garbage

The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Resurrection of Jesus
written by a Christian

The Watchtower organization says that Jesus did not rise from the dead in the same body he died in (You Can Live Forever on Paradise Earth, pp. 143-44). Instead, it says that He rose as a spirit creature and that the material body of Jesus was taken away by God the Father. Therefore, they deny the physical resurrection of Christ. Is this important? Most definitely!

1 Cor. 15:14 says, "If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain." In other words, if Jesus did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is a waste of time; and we are then still dead in our sins. It is obvious that the doctrine of the resurrection of Jesus is a vital and essential element of Christianity but what of the Jehovah's Witnesses? Are they accurate in their assessment of Jesus' resurrection in denying the bodily resurrection but affirming a "spiritual" resurrection? The answer is a definite, "No."

It is obvious from Jesus' own words in John 2:19-21 that He would raise Himself from the dead:

"Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews therefore said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body."

John 2:19-21 is a clear prophecy of Christ. Note that He said He would raise up "this temple." John the apostle clarifies for us that "this temple" was actually Jesus' physical body. Therefore, Jesus' physical body was raised from the dead. Very simple. However, the Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe Jesus' own words here.

In order to help you see the error of the Watchtower position and aid you in refuting their arguments, I've compiled the following list of arguments used by the Jehovah's Witnesses to support their position.

1. They use 1 Pet. 3:18 where it says that Christ was "put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit" as an attempt to show that Jesus was not raised physically but as a kind of spirit creature.
Their use of the scripture to support their position is incorrect because this verse does not say that He was raised a spirit creature.
It says that He was "made alive in the spirit." What does that mean? Quite simply, it means that Jesus was raised in an imperishable body. This is what 1 Cor. 15:35-45 says when it refers to the body as being sown perishable, but raised imperishable; sown in dishonor and raised in glory; sown a natural body and raised a spiritual body, etc. Jesus was the "Last Adam" - a life-giving spirit. Paul is typifying the resurrection body. In this passage Paul is talking about the resurrection of all people. All Christians will be raised in physical bodies. It is said the same of Jesus.

2. The Bible says that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 15:44-50). Therefore, Jesus' physical body could not be raised lest it contradict this verse.
What the Jehovah's Witnesses miss is that after His resurrection Jesus said, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have," (Luke 24:39). You must note that Jesus did not say, "flesh and blood." He said, "flesh and bones." This is because Jesus' blood was shed on the cross. The life is in the blood, and it is the blood that cleanses from sin: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul," (Lev. 17:11). See also, Gen. 9:4; Deut. 12:23; and John 6:53-54. Jesus was pointing out that He was different. He had a body but not a body of flesh and blood. It was flesh and bones.

3. The Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus manifested different physical forms in order to convince the disciples that He had been raised.
This is faulty for several reasons. First, it would mean that Jesus was tricking His disciples into believing that His body had been raised when it hadn't. Second, it disregards the clear teaching of Jesus Himself who said His very body would be raised. He said in John 2:19-21, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20Then the Jews said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 21But He was speaking of the temple of His body." Jesus said that His body would be raised. The Jehovah's Witnesses clearly deny Jesus' very words. Fourth, 1 Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus." Jesus is said to be a man--in present-tense language. If He was not raised physically, then how could he be a man? He could not be.

4. Jesus manifested different bodies after the resurrection--the same way the angels took human form in the Old Testament in order to show the disciples that He had been raised.
Again, this contradicts what Jesus said in John 2:19-21 that He would raise Himself from the dead . . . physically. Also, Jesus is not an angel contrary to what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe. Jesus was God in flesh (John 8:58; John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8].

The Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus did not rise from the dead in the same body He died in. This is a dangerous doctrine that contradicts the Bible and condemns those who believe it to eternal destruction because it is denying His physical resurrection which is the proof that He conquered death. The Jehovah's Witnesses need to keep Jesus' own words in mind when He said, "Destroy this temple and in three days, I will raise it up." (John 2:19). Since He was speaking of His body says John in verse 21, then it must be true; Jesus rose from the dead in the same body He died in. Also, at His ascension people watched Him rise to be with the Father. They saw His body ascend. That is why it can be said that Jesus, the man, is the mediator between God and man. (1 Tim. 2:5). It isn't an angel or a spirit creature that is the mediator. It is Jesus the man.

TATIME:
Well it's like Jesus is to be the judge NOT any sinful human like you and i. So i'll ADVICE you to allow Jesus judge that case!

surely only a mentally challenged person would laugh at everything he says
especially when none of it is humorous

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

TATIME:

*What is the name of that group you know are PRACTICING true Christianity?

i can very easily tell you now, the polytheist group that calls themselves jehovah's witnesses
is not a group practicing christianity

TATIME:
i have seen all the activities of this group and to the best of my knowledge and understanding they are the ONLY group PRACTICING what Jesus taught.

false jw tatime, your lies are never ending, of course

Jesus never taught that His body would not be raised, He in fact taught that He would raise His body(temple)

Joh 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 
Joh 2:20  Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 
Joh 2:21  But he spake of the temple of his body. 

Jesus never taught that there are two gods, almighty god the father and mighty god the son, He taught that God is one

Mar_12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Almighty and Mighty are names for the one true God of Christianity:

God is the Almighty God:
Gen_17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

God is the mighty God:
Jer_32:18  Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name

For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me. Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord . And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.
Zechariah 2:8‭-‬11 KJV


..so just like in Isaiah Yahweh here is sending Yahweh...... you are a fool to say otherwise

zodiakzax:
For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me. Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord . And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee.
Zechariah 2:8‭-‬11 KJV


..so just like in Isaiah Yahweh here is sending Yahweh...... you are a fool to say otherwise

Just think for a moment about YHWH as a NAME not as a TITLE!
It's YHWH (name) that was replaced with the title Lord by UNINSPIRED translators. There are many gods and Lords (1Corinthians 8:5)
So while arguing,consider what the ORIGINAL writers were INSPIRED to write because today we've got a lot of versions due to TRANSLATIONS!
Work on Exodus 7:1 where one God is making an individual God, Psalms 110:1 where a Lord said to another Lord,Isaiah 12:2 where Isaiah spoke about the Lord Jehovah.
At Exodus some Bible scholars said it's the Almighty God (YHWH) who made Moses God before Pharaoh.
At Psalms 110:1 LORD (Jehovah) spoke to Lord(Jesus) to sit at HIS right hand.
At Isaiah 12:2 he(Isaiah) SPECIFICALLY mentioned a name in connection to the LORD he was referring to!
So it's not about insulting or cursing someone for digging deeper to grasp the REAL meaning of what the INSPIRED writers penned down! Proverbs 2:1-5

TATIME:
So it's not about insulting or cursing someone for digging deeper to grasp the REAL meaning of what the INSPIRED writers penned down! Proverbs 2:1-5

No one is insulting you personally, it the rubbish you write, we have spent so much time searching the scriptures, just for you, praying maybe just one verse may rock your boat-but sadly every time you write something in return, you twist the scriptures around so much nothing is making any sense anymore.
Now we understand you are from another tribe claiming to be Christian, but you don't seem to want to learn as one!
It's like your heart and mind had left you behind, because the staff you leave for us to read is rubbish! No-one is forcing you to believe, but, if you are claiming to be somebody, then at least back it up with some knowledge to prove 'you are this somebody..

TATIME:
Just think for a moment about YHWH as a NAME not as a TITLE!
It's YHWH (name) that was replaced with the title Lord by UNINSPIRED translators. There are many gods and Lords (1Corinthians 8:5)
So while arguing,consider what the ORIGINAL writers were INSPIRED to write because today we've got a lot of versions due to TRANSLATIONS!
Work on Exodus 7:1 where one God is making an individual God, Psalms 110:1 where a Lord said to another Lord,Isaiah 12:2 where Isaiah spoke about the Lord Jehovah.
At Exodus some Bible scholars said it's the Almighty God (YHWH) who made Moses God before Pharaoh.
At Psalms 110:1 LORD (Jehovah) spoke to Lord(Jesus) to sit at HIS right hand.
At Isaiah 12:2 he(Isaiah) SPECIFICALLY mentioned a name in connection to the LORD he was referring to!
So it's not about insulting or cursing someone for digging deeper to grasp the REAL meaning of what the INSPIRED writers penned down! Proverbs 2:1-5

brocab:

No one is insulting you personally, it the rubbish you write, we have spent so much time searching the scriptures, just for you, praying maybe just one verse may rock your boat-but sadly every time you write something in return, you twist the scriptures around so much nothing is making any sense anymore.
Now we understand you are from another tribe claiming to be Christian, but you don't seem to want to learn as one!
It's like your heart and mind had left you behind, because the staff you leave for us to read is rubbish! No-one is forcing you to believe, but, if you are claiming to be somebody, then at least back it up with some knowledge to prove 'you are this somebody..

BACK IT UP WITH KNOWLEDGE?
Well you are speaking in SUPPORT of the common tradition of the churches because i don't have any other form of knowledge to SUPPORT what i'm saying than the ACCURATE understanding of the scriptures!
But if truthfully it's making no sense and you're also one of the commentators, why not leave the JUDGMENT in the hands of neutral observers my friend? Hope this isn't as a saying "once beaten, twice shy", because you can't be a contestant in a debate and at the same time be the judge as in referee!

You are twisting scripture out of context again, Jesus said: we judge by their fruit-you come to us bringing with you another doctrine!
So because of your own foolishness we have judged you..
You use the bible as your tool to judge against the scriptures-you stand behind the Watchtower-because it's unbiblical to the bible..
If you attend to seek with us, you need stronger evidence then this, you need to bring with you the Word of God and believe..
You just can't accept your wrongs-instead you prefer to blame others who are trying to help you understand!
We have tried to give you understanding-that the bible is not only in the natural, it's also in the spirit-and to understand it, we must learn how to seek the Word of God and believe..
It won't matter what we say-or how we have written the scriptures down, you don't believe it anyway, you won't accept the Word of God from us-you would rather die in your own sins, then listen to the truth from others outside your Watchtowers program. you don't accept the Word of God nor will ever think of studying outside the square, your organisation has you bound and foot, no matter how the Word of God is written, your denomination controls you-it's super natural forces controls your mind.
Denominations can be dangerous at times, they can take people further away from the truth "You believe in one God you do well even the demons believe..

TATIME:
BACK IT UP WITH KNOWLEDGE?
Well you are speaking in SUPPORT of the common tradition of the churches because i don't have any other form of knowledge to SUPPORT what i'm saying than the ACCURATE understanding of the scriptures!
But if truthfully it's making no sense and you're also one of the commentators, why not leave the JUDGMENT in the hands of neutral observers my friend? Hope this isn't as a saying "once beaten, twice shy", because you can't be a contestant in a debate and at the same time be the judge as in referee!

TATIME:
Just think for a moment about YHWH as a NAME not as a TITLE!
It's YHWH (name) that was replaced with the title Lord by UNINSPIRED translators. There are many gods and Lords (1Corinthians 8:5)
So while arguing,consider what the ORIGINAL writers were INSPIRED to write because today we've got a lot of versions due to TRANSLATIONS!
Work on Exodus 7:1 where one God is making an individual God, Psalms 110:1 where a Lord said to another Lord,Isaiah 12:2 where Isaiah spoke about the Lord Jehovah.
At Exodus some Bible scholars said it's the Almighty God (YHWH) who made Moses God before Pharaoh.
At Psalms 110:1 LORD (Jehovah) spoke to Lord(Jesus) to sit at HIS right hand.
At Isaiah 12:2 he(Isaiah) SPECIFICALLY mentioned a name in connection to the LORD he was referring to!
So it's not about insulting or cursing someone for digging deeper to grasp the REAL meaning of what the INSPIRED writers penned down! Proverbs 2:1-5

...

brocab:

We have tried to give you understanding-that the bible is not only in the natural, it's also in the spirit-and to understand it, we must learn how to seek the Word of God and believe.

If truthfully you want to help me,then PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!! do it exactly the way Jesus instituted the preaching and teaching program as found in the Bible!
Jesus actually sent His own TRUE followers to GO AND MEET PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, so i'll be expecting you at my doorstep just as i welcomed Jehovah's Witnesses who came all the way to my house claiming Jesus sent them and showed me how and where that was written in the Bible! Matthew 10:5-15
So let me SEE you at my doorstep first because the JWs came respectfully and mildly answered all my questions before i agreed that they're truly Jesus' followers (Christians). Act 11:26
Whatever you're calling Christian now if it's not in conformity with the procedures found in the Bible (God's word) must be based on human tradition which Jesus already warned that could be EASILY manipulated by Satan! Matthew 7:24-27

the group practicing christianity
are people of God given faith who believe God's word

some are in organised churches some not, the church can be called:

the Church of Jesus Christ
Mat_16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

the Church of God
Act_20:28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

notice the Church of Jesus Christ is the Church of God
we are shown all through the bible that Jesus Christ is God
also notice verse 28, God purchased the Church with His own blood

but of course the truth is not for the blinded such as false jw's:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw47:

the group practicing christianity
are people of God given faith who believe God's word

some are in organised churches some not, the church can be called:

the Church of Jesus Christ
Mat_16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

the Church of God
Act_20:28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God

2Co_4:4  Christ, who is the image of God,

johnw47 half baked junk gospel . why is Jesus Christ called 'the image of God" just as man is called image of God? Answer my question.

The early Christians were organized, united& fellowshipped together. (Through holy spirit,the Council or Governing Body in Jerusalem, made up of Peter & others, "The Overseers" oversaw the activities of Christians back then ) Acts 2:41-47 & 15:1-41
Heb10:24-26. Back then no true Christian isolated himself from the apostolic direction & fellowship

Jesus was their Master & Spiritual head matt 23:8-11. Only Jehovah's witnesses operate this apostolic example.

This is different from the factions in Christendom (TREM RCCG DLC & other pastorpreneur biz entreprises led by one man .All of them dey lie lie dey claim "body of Christ" whereas all their doctrines dey contradict each other) .

If them be true church of God make all of them ( TREM, RCCG, Catholic etc) get only one Governing Body & the same doctrines reminiscent of the early Christians in Acts of the Apostles

Janosky:


johnw47 half baked junk gospel . why is Jesus Christ called 'the image of God" just as man is called image of God? Answer my question.

The early Christians were organized, united& fellowshipped together. (Through holy spirit,the Council or Governing Body in Jerusalem, made up of Peter & others, "The Overseers" oversaw the activities of Christians back then ) Acts 2:41-47 & 15:1-41
Heb10:24-26. Back then no true Christian isolated himself from the apostolic direction & fellowship

Jesus was their Master & Spiritual head matt 23:8-11. Only Jehovah's witnesses operate this apostolic example.

This is different from the factions in Christendom (TREM RCCG DLC & other pastorpreneur biz entreprises led by one man .All of them dey lie lie dey claim "body of Christ" whereas all their doctrines dey contradict each other) .

If them be true church of God make all of them ( TREM, RCCG, Catholic etc) get only one Governing Body & the same doctrines reminiscent of the early Christians in Acts of the Apostles

GOVERNING BODY
Abeg that's a crime before DISGUISED atheists all claiming Christians today!
I'll forever remain grateful to JEHOVAH for inspiring Luke to pen down the Bible book titled ACT OF APOSTLES,otherwise these newly initiated atheists would have succeeded in turning everyone against Christ!

Janosky:


johnw47 half baked junk gospel . why is Jesus Christ called 'the image of God" just as man is called image of God? Answer my question.

The early Christians were organized, united& fellowshipped together. (Through holy spirit,the Council or Governing Body in Jerusalem, made up of Peter & others, "The Overseers" oversaw the activities of Christians back then ) Acts 2:41-47 & 15:1-41
Heb10:24-26. Back then no true Christian isolated himself from the apostolic direction & fellowship

Jesus was their Master & Spiritual head matt 23:8-11. Only Jehovah's witnesses operate this apostolic example.

This is different from the factions in Christendom (TREM RCCG DLC & other pastorpreneur biz entreprises led by one man .All of them dey lie lie dey claim "body of Christ" whereas all their doctrines dey contradict each other) .

If them be true church of God make all of them ( TREM, RCCG, Catholic etc) get only one Governing Body & the same doctrines reminiscent of the early Christians in Acts of the Apostles

Show us where they mentioned governing body in the Bible? Don't give us assumption o.

Shame did not allow you quote the verses you mentioned because governing body is never mentioned not even once.

You just think people are daft like you are.

Janosky:


johnw47 half baked junk gospel .

of course you don't believe the scriptures i posted,
you are false jw

Janosky:
why is Jesus Christ called 'the image of God" just as man is called image of God? Answer my question.

i surely don't take orders from satans mob,
you tell me what you don't believe about this verse i posted:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

[quote author=Janosky]
The early Christians were organized, united& fellowshipped together. (Through holy spirit,the Council or Governing Body in Jerusalem, made up of Peter & others, "The Overseers" oversaw the activities of Christians back then ) Acts 2:41-47 & 15:1-41
Heb10:24-26. Back then no true Christian isolated himself from the apostolic direction & fellowship

Jesus was their Master & Spiritual head matt 23:8-11. Only Jehovah's witnesses operate this apostolic example.

This is different from the factions in Christendom (TREM RCCG DLC & other pastorpreneur biz entreprises led by one man .All of them dey lie lie dey claim "body of Christ" whereas all their doctrines dey contradict each other) .

If them be true church of God make all of them ( TREM, RCCG, Catholic etc) get only one Governing Body & the same doctrines reminiscent of the early Christians in Acts of the Apostles

typical false jw bull
the church - people with God given faith, has been around for 2000 years

how long has satans false jw church been around, 100 years?

TATIME:

GOVERNING BODY
Abeg that's a crime before DISGUISED atheists all claiming Christians today!
I'll forever remain grateful to JEHOVAH for inspiring Luke to pen down the Bible book titled ACT OF APOSTLES,otherwise these newly initiated atheists would have succeeded in turning everyone against Christ!

confused false jw tatime
explain your delusion, who are these atheists - non believers in God, or in any god for that matter, who are claiming to be christians?

looks like just more false jw contradictions - lies

John 14:28, "The Father is greater than I."
written by a christian

"You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14:28).

Jesus said that the Father was greater than He not because Jesus is not God but because Jesus was also a man, and as a man, He was in a lower position. He was ". . . made for a little while lower than the angels . . ." (Heb. 2:9). Also in Phil. 2:5-8, it says that Jesus "emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men . . ."

Jesus has two natures. Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was merely acknowledging the fact that He was also a man. Jesus is both God and man. As a man, He was in a lesser position than the Father. He had added to Himself human nature (Col. 2:9). He became a man to die for people.

A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically, a husband is greater in position and authority than his wife, but, he is no different in nature, and he is no better than she. They share the same nature--being human, and they work together by love.

So, Jesus was not denying that He was God. He was simply acknowledging that He was also a man, and as a man, He was subject to the laws of God so that He might redeem those who were under the law, namely, sinners (Gal. 4:4-5).

For further reading please see The two natures of Jesus, below

Scriptures Quoted:
Phil. 2:5-8, "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."
Col. 2:9, "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,"
Gal. 4:4-5, "But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons."
Heb. 2:9, "But we do see Him who has been made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone."

Jesus' Two Natures: God and Man
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Jesus is the most important person who has ever lived since he is the Savior, God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. In other words, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh (John 1:1, 14). This means that in the single person of Jesus he has both a human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the Word became flesh (John 1:1, 14). Instead, the Word was joined with humanity (Col. 2:9). Jesus' divine nature was not altered. Also, Jesus is not merely a man who "had God within Him," nor is he a man who "manifested the God principle." He is God in flesh, second person of the Trinity. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word." (Heb. 1:3). Jesus' two natures are not "mixed together" (Eutychianism), nor are they combined into a new God-man nature (Monophysitism). They are separate yet act as a unit in the one person of Jesus. This is called the Hypostatic Union.

The following chart should help you see the two natures of Jesus "in action":

____________________GOD_____________________________________________MAN

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2, 11; 14:33)________________He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8_______________He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5)
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)___________________He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59)___________________________He prayed to the Father (John 17)
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)________________He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He knows all things (John 21:17)______________________He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He gives eternal life (John 10:28)____________________He died (Rom. 5:8]
All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)____He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)

The Communicatio Idiomatum
A doctrine that is related to the Hypostatic Union is the communicatio idiomatum (Latin for "communication of properties"]. This is the teaching that the attributes of both the divine and human natures are ascribed to the one person of Jesus. This means that the man Jesus could lay claim to the glory He had with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5), claim that He descended from heaven (John 3:13), and also claim omnipresence (Matt. 28:20). All of these are divine qualities that are laid claim to by Jesus; therefore, the attributes of the divine properties were claimed by the person of Jesus.

One of the most common errors that non-Christian cults make is not understanding the two natures of Christ. For example, the Jehovah's Witnesses focus on Jesus' humanity and ignore His divinity. They repeatedly quote verses dealing with Jesus as a man and try to set them against Scripture showing that Jesus is also divine. On the other hand, the Christian Scientists do the reverse. They focus on the Scriptures showing Jesus' divinity to the extent of denying His true humanity.

For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) and yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1, 14).

The Bible is about Jesus (John 5:39). The prophets prophesied about Him (Acts 10:43). The Father bore witness of Him (John 5:37; 8:18). The Holy Spirit bore witness of Him (John 15:26). The works Jesus did bore witness of Him (John 5:36; 10:25). The multitudes bore witness of Him (John 12:17). And, Jesus bore witness of Himself (John 14:6; 18:6).

Other verses to consider when examining His deity are John 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:6-8; and 2 Pet. 1:1.

1 Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Right now, there is a man in heaven on the throne of God. He is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). He is our Savior (Titus 2:13). He is our Lord (Rom. 10:9-10). He is Jesus.

{Matthew 10:5-15} 5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.
6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.
7 As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’
8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
9 Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts..
10 No bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep.
11 WHATEVER TOWN OR VILLAGE YOU ENTER, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave.
12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting.
13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
I can't seem to find where you believe Jesus said: knock on every door? Plus it would be pointless for me to knock on your door-you can't accept the Word of God on this page now, so what difference would it make if I was to knock on a door that is so unwelcoming..

TATIME:
If truthfully you want to help me,then PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!! do it exactly the way Jesus instituted the preaching and teaching program as found in the Bible!
Jesus actually sent His own TRUE followers to GO AND MEET PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES, so i'll be expecting you at my doorstep just as i welcomed Jehovah's Witnesses who came all the way to my house claiming Jesus sent them and showed me how and where that was written in the Bible! Matthew 10:5-15
So let me SEE you at my doorstep first because the JWs came respectfully and mildly answered all my questions before i agreed that they're truly Jesus' followers (Christians). Act 11:26
Whatever you're calling Christian now if it's not in conformity with the procedures found in the Bible (God's word) must be based on human tradition which Jesus already warned that could be EASILY manipulated by Satan! Matthew 7:24-27

johnw47:

"Jesus is both God and man...
A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically,a man is greater in position and authority than his wife but he is no different in nature- being human & they work together in love"
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johnw47 sophistry is very weak and full of loopholes!

"The one God", an Almighty spirit being, can NEVER WORK TOGETHER with himself . HE is not Jesus,who is a different spirit being. The two spirit beings are very distinct & can NOT be one entity

. Your fake analogy means that husband & wife is one being (one God) who share human nature. In other words, the man is husband & wife simultaneously. Likewise the woman simultaneously.
Oturugbeke !!!

Johnw47 quoted Gal 4:4
"When the time came ,God sent forth his son, born of a woman.. "
If Johnw47 understands English , that verse shows that in heaven Jesus is a son of God before the time he was born of a woman on earth.


According to Johnw47;
"Other verses to consider when examining his deity are John 10:30-33, 20:28.. ."


John 10:34-36
"Jesus answered them... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said I am God's son"

John 20:17
Jesus said.... I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"

Thomas called Jesus "my lord and my God", no shaking.

The Father and God of Jesus is the same Father and same God of Thomas & his fellow apostles . Jesus talk say himself & Thomas dey worship the only true God, Jehovah.
The Father and God of Jesus is GREATER THAN ALL" John 10;29
Therefore Jesus. NEVER thought or considered himself equal with God, even though he is a spirit being like his Father. John 14:28
(Johnw47 twisted Phil 2:6-9).
"We (my Father and I) are one" means two persons who. walk together in agreement . Amos 3:3
Johnw47 dey spread junk doctrine of Trinity

Janosky:


"Jesus is both God and man...
A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically,a man is greater in position and authority than his wife but he is no different in nature- being human & they work together in love"


johnw47 sophistry is very weak and full of loopholes!

false jw jano, your method of posting is very confused and also nonsense

Janosky:
"The one God", an Almighty spirit being, can NEVER WORK TOGETHER with himself . HE is not Jesus,who is a different spirit being. The two spirit beings are very distinct & can NOT be one entity

the two Spirit beings God and the Word are indeed two persons and the one God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Janosky:
. Your fake analogy means that husband & wife is one being (one God) who share human nature. In other words, the man is husband & wife simultaneously. Likewise the woman simultaneously.
Oturugbeke !!!

oh duh, what nonsense, easy to see you are false jw,
husband and wife are two beings and they are both human
Father and the Word are two beings and they are both God,
of course you don't believe God's word and change the meaning

Janosky:
Johnw47 quoted Gal 4:4
"When the time came ,God sent forth his son, born of a woman.. "
If Johnw47 understands English , that verse shows that in heaven Jesus is a son of God before the time he was born of a woman on earth.

a human father and his son are both human,
Father God and the Word are both God,
ask if you want me to post verses of Father God, calling Jesus "God"?

Janosky:
According to Johnw47;
"Other verses to consider when examining his deity are John 10:30-33, 20:28.. ."


John 10:34-36
"Jesus answered them... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said I am God's son"

John 20:17
Jesus said.... I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"

Jesus is Father God's Son, He is also God the Word, He is both man and God

Jesus called Father: "Father" and "God"
oh duh so He is, Father called Jesus: "Son" and "God"

Janosky:
Thomas called Jesus "my lord and my God", no shaking.

The Father and God of Jesus is the same Father and same God of Thomas & his fellow apostles . Jesus talk say himself & Thomas dey worship the only true God, Jehovah.
The Father and God of Jesus is GREATER THAN ALL" John 10;29
Therefore Jesus. NEVER thought or considered himself equal with God, even though he is a spirit being like his Father. John 14:28

Thomas calling Jesus my Lord and my God is very plain and clear,
but not after you false jw's do the twist on it

Janosky:
(Johnw47 twisted Phil 2:6-9).

"We (my Father and I) are one" means two persons who. walk together in agreement . Amos 3:3

you false jw jano lied,
of course they walk together in agreement, they are also the one spirit which is God.
ask if you want me to post verses showing that Jesus is Jehovah God.

Janosky:
Johnw47 dey spread junk doctrine of Trinity

false jw jano lies and dey spread junk doctrine on everything