Janosky:


My bro, there stupidity is simply absurd. Trinity doctrine shuts down their power to reason.
Solite3 & Anas09 said their Trinity is now a hierarchy , no more co-equals.
Trinitarians are Confused.

You that is not confused and your reasoning is intact abeg which bible verse did they mention governing body?

Which bible verse did they say governing body is the only channel of communication between God and man

Which bible verse did they say that joining watchtower organization is the only means by which salvation is guaranteed?


When you provide these answers then we will know your religion has it's reasoning intact. Till then you are just like the trinitarians you condemn so much.

VICOiheaka:
then explain 1 john 5:8 your misunderstanding and foul foundation in Christianity is the reason why you will never hear from God, and you talk of his word being corrupt hmm lack of fear of God

https://biblehub.com/1_John/5-8.htm
"The spirit the water and the blood- these three are in agreement" 1 John 5:8
U can see the transliterated manuscript texts on biblehub

"...A textual controversy exists between the end of verse 7 and the beginning of verse 8(kJV).
The Textus Receptus which was used in translating the KJV adds a reference to a witness on earth...
this reading is not found in the earliest manuscripts"
https://www.bibleref.com/1-John/5/1-john-5-8.html

U can now see for yourself that the verse U referred me to has nothing to do with Trinity.
Of a truth, the counterfeit version of 1John 5:7,8 in your KJV is not in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible except the corrupted textus receptus manuscript.

The series of forgeries and lies added to the holy scriptures are the foundation of Trinity .


The fact is Trinity doctrine depicts "your misunderstanding and foul foundation in Christianity" Yes !

Hairyrapunzel:


Which bible verse mentions governing body? Abi e no dey?
Is governing body written in the Bible?

It's like there is a machine programmed to keep asking the same question about the GOVERNING BODY,I don't think this Hairyrapunzel is there anymore or perhaps his brains has been hacked by some virus yes antijw virus for sure. Because i don't understand how a normal person with human brains will continue asking the same question over and over again, even after telling him "we're sorry,it was FABRICATED"!

Janosky:


My bro, there stupidity is simply absurd. Trinity doctrine shuts down their power to reason.
Solite3 & Anas09 said their Trinity is now a hierarchy , no more co-equals.
Trinitarians are Confused.

Majority are no more following their once revered religious leaders who taught them so many heresies (including the Hellfire and Trinity doctrines) but i don't understand why they're still clinging onto the teachings of those teachers after discovering that they're FAKE!

Janosky:


My bro, there stupidity is simply absurd. Trinity doctrine shuts down their power to reason.
Solite3 & Anas09 said their Trinity is now a hierarchy , no more co-equals.
Trinitarians are Confused.

Lolzzzz. a JW witness who preaches watchtower's Governing Council instead of the Bible. I don't care to explain to you what Trinity is.
Gerarahia.

TATIME:
Majority are no more following their once revered religious leaders who taught them so many heresies (including the Hellfire and Trinity doctrines) but i don't understand why they're still clinging onto the teachings of those teachers after discovering that they're FAKE!

Hey, there's Hellfire and Charles Tass Russell shall burn in it and you too. He is Hades right now awaiting White Throne Judgement. Say whatever you like, you shall stand before Christ the King.

Jehovah is Jesus and Jesus is the Holy Spirit. They are not divided but one.

Anas09:

Hey, there's Hellfire and Charles Tass Russell shall burn in it and you too.

Says you, NOT God so case close!

Anas09:

Hey, there's Hellfire and Charles Tass Russell shall burn in it and you too. He is Hades right now awaiting White Throne Judgement. Say whatever you like, you shall stand before Christ the King.

Jehovah is Jesus and Jesus is the Holy Spirit. They are not divided but one.

Fully understood Sir!

TATIME:
Fully understood Sir!

Good.

Janosky:


https://biblehub.com/1_John/5-8.htm
"The spirit the water and the blood- these three are in agreement" 1 John 5:8
U can see the transliterated manuscript texts on biblehub

"...A textual controversy exists between the end of verse 7 and the beginning of verse 8(kJV).
The Textus Receptus which was used in translating the KJV adds a reference to a witness on earth...
this reading is not found in the earliest manuscripts"
https://www.bibleref.com/1-John/5/1-john-5-8.html

U can now see for yourself that the verse U referred me to has nothing to do with Trinity.
Of a truth, the counterfeit version of 1John 5:7,8 in your KJV is not in the earliest manuscripts of the Bible except the corrupted textus receptus manuscript.

The series of forgeries and lies added to the holy scriptures are the foundation of Trinity .


The fact is Trinity doctrine depicts "your misunderstanding and foul foundation in Christianity" Yes !

When they meet with other trinitarian whether from the same religious group or other religious groups they'll say their normal slogans
*Heaven is real,Hell is real!
*Jesus is Lord!
*The lord is good!
*It is well IJN!
But when it comes to DEEPER understanding or PRACTICAL APPLICATION of their beliefs,come and see arguments and contradictions due to different school of thought and contradicting versions of their TRINITY courtesy of their various egoistic religious teachers.
So after spitting on the faces of one another due to contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, they'll pure their anger and frustration on JWs who are UNITED IN FAITH GLOBALLY!

Janosky:


johnw47 half baked junk gospel . why is Jesus Christ called 'the image of God" just as man is called image of God? Answer my question.

The early Christians were organized, united& fellowshipped together. (Through holy spirit,the Council or Governing Body in Jerusalem, made up of Peter & others, "The Overseers" oversaw the activities of Christians back then ) Acts 2:41-47 & 15:1-41
Heb10:24-26. Back then no true Christian isolated himself from the apostolic direction & fellowship

Jesus was their Master & Spiritual head matt 23:8-11. Only Jehovah's witnesses operate this apostolic example.

This is different from the factions in Christendom (TREM RCCG DLC & other pastorpreneur biz entreprises led by one man .All of them dey lie lie dey claim "body of Christ" whereas all their doctrines dey contradict each other) .

If them be true church of God make all of them ( TREM, RCCG, Catholic etc) get only one Governing Body & the same doctrines reminiscent of the early Christians in Acts of the Apostles

..see another stupid one.. ...

Janosky:


"Jesus is both God and man...
A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically,a man is greater in position and authority than his wife but he is no different in nature- being human & they work together in love"


johnw47 sophistry is very weak and full of loopholes!

"The one God", an Almighty spirit being, can NEVER WORK TOGETHER with himself . HE is not Jesus,who is a different spirit being. The two spirit beings are very distinct & can NOT be one entity

. Your fake analogy means that husband & wife is one being (one God) who share human nature. In other words, the man is husband & wife simultaneously. Likewise the woman simultaneously.
Oturugbeke !!!

Johnw47 quoted Gal 4:4
"When the time came ,God sent forth his son, born of a woman.. "
If Johnw47 understands English , that verse shows that in heaven Jesus is a son of God before the time he was born of a woman on earth.


According to Johnw47;
"Other verses to consider when examining his deity are John 10:30-33, 20:28.. ."


John 10:34-36
"Jesus answered them... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said I am God's son"

John 20:17
Jesus said.... I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"

Thomas called Jesus "my lord and my God", no shaking.

The Father and God of Jesus is the same Father and same God of Thomas & his fellow apostles . Jesus talk say himself & Thomas dey worship the only true God, Jehovah.
The Father and God of Jesus is GREATER THAN ALL" John 10;29
Therefore Jesus. NEVER thought or considered himself equal with God, even though he is a spirit being like his Father. John 14:28
(Johnw47 twisted Phil 2:6-9).
"We (my Father and I) are one" means two persons who. walk together in agreement . Amos 3:3
Johnw47 dey spread junk doctrine of Trinity

..illiteracy to the highest level... ... husband and wife one nature in that they 're humans not dogs, husband is greater because he has more authority..simple analogy and here you are pooing here and there stupid pagan...

Janosky:


Shut up there !

"But he who endures to the end will be saved" Matt 24:13.

God's word they burst johnw bubble of falsehood & knock out him lies. Oya Gerroutta here...

ha ha poor tormented false jw jano

matt 24:13 is not about being saved by works
in fact God makes it very clear that believers are saved by grace through faith, and not works:

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Janosky:


Only a fraudulent person copies another man's work with out acknowledgement of the source.
This OP ,johnw47 is a fraud .

Your Source says "God is your throne" (NWT) is a legitimate translation of the Greek texts.
Their further attempts to discredit their own statement reeks of double standard , fraud and bias.

Hey pagan stop spreading your stupidity and illiteracy every where you go... You are not even worth our time and effort... stupid idiot...

Janosky:


" . .Written by a Christian " is Hogwash ! That "Christian" no get name or website ?

Johnw47 is a fraud.
NL is a public forum and as result, whatever quote that U post on this forum ,the original source must be accessible & verifiable to everyone here .

Your so-called "Christian" source said "To say 'God is your throne' does not make sense" confirmed that Johnw47 & his "christian" source speaks with both side of their mouth, they are fraudulent.
Their post said :
"The RSV translates it as "Your divine throne endures forever .." which he wrote is the "best translation" in the opinion of "most Bible theologians!'

NWT : "God is your throne forever and ever"

Is the RSV translation synonymous with NWT ?
Yes of course !
Johnw47 is a confirmed fraud.
Trinity doctrine & johnw47 na 5&6

..how exactly is " your divine throne endures forever" synonymous to " God is your throne forever and ever" ... explain Mr Pagan... stop being stupid and a fool... Nwt is full of shiit... how in the hell is God even his throne..


kis·'a·cha, e·lo·him.... your throne,God.... psalm 45:6...

https://biblehub.com/lexicon/psalms/45-6.htm


Stop being stupid..

zodiakzax:


..how exactly is " your divine throne endures forever" synonymous to " God is your throne forever and ever" ... explain Mr Pagan... stop being stupid and a fool... Nwt is full of shiit... how in the hell is God even his throne..


kis·'a·cha, e·lo·him.... your throne,God.... psalm 45:6...

https://biblehub.com/lexicon/psalms/45-6.htm


Stop being stupid..

Educated illiterate ....
A half baked illiterate like zodiakzax lacks comprehension skills.
That Janosky post pass your level.
Get outta here

Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?
written by a christian

The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings.

Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors:

Taking verses out of their immediate context.
Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context.
Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text.
Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs.
Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others.
Changing the meanings of words.
Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines.
Adding to the Word of God.

Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness' organization requires of its member's regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them. For confirmation of this, please read Does the Watchtower organization control the JW's thinking?

The Witnesses are told they will be persecuted when they go door-to-door teaching their doctrines. They are further told that this is simply the enemy fighting against God's organization because they are in "the truth." So, when someone disagrees with them, they are conditioned to reflect on what the Watchtower has told them. They then feel confirmed in being in God's true organization on earth (like all cults claim). They are strongly encouraged to have friends and acquaintances that are only JW's, thereby keeping outside examination to a minimum. They are told to shun those who leave their group, for in this way there is no way to see why someone has left and no way to find out that they are in error from those who have found the truth in Christ. They are conditioned to shy away from any real biblically knowledgeable person. An example of this is frequently found on the Internet. I was once banned from a Jehovah's Witness' chat room after I not only answered their objections to the Trinity and deity of Christ but also challenged them in return. Subsequently, my name was passed around to all other Jehovah's Witness' rooms where I was banned from them as well. This is a frequent occurrence on the Internet where the Jehovah's Witnesses are alive and well. It is obvious that critical examination of their doctrines is not encouraged by the Watchtower Organization.

The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from looking into Jehovah's Witness' history or old Watchtower literature which is replete with contradictions, altered doctrines, and false prophecies. Instead, they are indoctrinated repeatedly against basic Christian doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.,) and into the notion that they alone are the true servants of God and that all others are either in "Christendom" or simply unbelievers.

Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness' organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to the headquarters in Brooklyn, New York.

"Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization and not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."(The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587.)

Conclusion
The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expands its grip into the lives of its members and their families.

It is a non-Christian cult.

johnw47:


Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?
written by a christian

The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings.

Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors:

Taking verses out of their immediate context.
Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context.
Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text.
Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs.
Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others.
Changing the meanings of words.
Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines.
Adding to the Word of God.

Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness' organization requires of its member's regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them. For confirmation of this, please read Does the Watchtower organization control the JW's thinking?

The Witnesses are told they will be persecuted when they go door-to-door teaching their doctrines. They are further told that this is simply the enemy fighting against God's organization because they are in "the truth." So, when someone disagrees with them, they are conditioned to reflect on what the Watchtower has told them. They then feel confirmed in being in God's true organization on earth (like all cults claim). They are strongly encouraged to have friends and acquaintances that are only JW's, thereby keeping outside examination to a minimum. They are told to shun those who leave their group, for in this way there is no way to see why someone has left and no way to find out that they are in error from those who have found the truth in Christ. They are conditioned to shy away from any real biblically knowledgeable person. An example of this is frequently found on the Internet. I was once banned from a Jehovah's Witness' chat room after I not only answered their objections to the Trinity and deity of Christ but also challenged them in return. Subsequently, my name was passed around to all other Jehovah's Witness' rooms where I was banned from them as well. This is a frequent occurrence on the Internet where the Jehovah's Witnesses are alive and well. It is obvious that critical examination of their doctrines is not encouraged by the Watchtower Organization.

The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from looking into Jehovah's Witness' history or old Watchtower literature which is replete with contradictions, altered doctrines, and false prophecies. Instead, they are indoctrinated repeatedly against basic Christian doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.,) and into the notion that they alone are the true servants of God and that all others are either in "Christendom" or simply unbelievers.

Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness' organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to the headquarters in Brooklyn, New York.

"Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization and not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."(The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587.)

Conclusion
The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expands its grip into the lives of its members and their families.

It is a non-Christian cult.

Tales by moon light, rooster & bull TRASH by Johnw Pharisee.

johnw47:


ha ha poor tormented false jw jano

matt 24:13 is not about being saved by works
in fact God makes it very clear that believers are saved by grace through faith, and not works:

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Johnw Pharisee dey do cover up.
Jesus debunked your satanic doctrine of once saved, always saved (Matt 24:13. Rev 3:14-16)
"Saved Christian just does little, not much works" Pharisee

johnw47:



matt 24:13 is not about being saved by works
in fact God makes it very clear that believers are saved by grace through faith, and not works:

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Johnw Pharisee dey do cover up.
Jesus debunked your satanic doctrine of once saved, always saved (Matt 24:13. Rev 3:14-16)
"Saved Christian just does little, not much works" Pharisee

Janosky:


Tales by moon light, rooster & bull TRASH by Johnw Pharisee.

of course you false jw jano don't believe the truth, bad for you

Janosky:


Johnw Pharisee dey do cover up.
Jesus debunked your satanic doctrine of once saved, always saved (Matt 24:13. Rev 3:14-16)
"Saved Christian just does little, not much works" Pharisee

disbeliever of God, false jw jano

truly we (not you ) are saver by grace through faith, not of works:

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.


but keep on making God to be a liar

Janosky:


Tales by moon light, rooster & bull TRASH by Johnw Pharisee.

Jesus has finished them with a single sentence. He knew very well that FAKE Christians will also criticise and condemn TRUE Christians just as it happened in His time when Pharisees were condemning Jesus saying "He(Jesus) is operating under the Devil". Matthew 10:24-26,12:24. Mark 3:22.Luke 11:15 John 8:48
So Jesus' words clearly knocked all enemies of the TRUTH to silence! "By their fruit" the Lord said "every good tree produces fine fruits" therefore if they keep arguing from now till tomorrow, Jesus said fine FRUITs can ONLY come from good TREES Matthew 7:16-18
Jehovah's Witnesses are known globally as number one peace keeping force on earth today,NOT by commanding, ordering or intimidating the one carrying weapons to drop it at gunpoint but by reaching his heart with our so called HERESY (fabricated from our understanding of the Bible)to the extent such a person will NEVER again take up arms no more! Isaiah 2:2-4
So let the critics of God's people PRESENT, POINT, NAME, DIRECT, TELL or SHOW the world another religious group that has succeeded in PEACEFULLY disarming over 8,000,000 inhabitants on earth during this time that most people are aggressive and self centered! 2Timothy 3:1-5

Sorry! The above pictures is not intended at intimidating anybody, but to SHOW you all that the so called CULT is accomplishing what Jesus said His followers will do in our time! Matthew 5:9
So if the world is calling PEACEMAKERS demons,our righteousness is from JEHOVAH. Isaiah 54:17

This are gangsters from South America turned peacemakers courtesy Jehovah's Witnesses (CULT) and just bellow is one of them now zealously preaching and teaching people how to live peacefully with others!

TATIME:
It's like there is a machine programmed to keep asking the same question about the GOVERNING BODY,I don't think this Hairyrapunzel is there anymore or perhaps his brains has been hacked by some virus yes antijw virus for sure. Because i don't understand how a normal person with human brains will continue asking the same question over and over again, even after telling him "we're sorry,it was FABRICATED"!

Is it difficult to show the bible verse where governing body was mentioned?

Since it's your daily mantra and the reason you live you need to show us the bible verse that mentions them simple. Don't come here and form smart.

I will ask the question over and over again till you tell me the bible verse where governing body is mentioned. Lol.

Janosky:


Johnw Pharisee dey do cover up.
Jesus debunked your satanic doctrine of once saved, always saved (Matt 24:13. Rev 3:14-16)
"Saved Christian just does little, not much works" Pharisee

So show us the bible verse that Jesus said you have to join a publishing company called watchtower organization and obey unquestionably the 8 old men in new York leading the organization in order to be saved?

Hairyrapunzel:


Is it difficult to show the bible verse where governing body was mentioned?

Since it's your daily mantra and the reason you live you need to show us the bible verse that mentions them simple. Don't come here and form smart.

I will ask the question over and over again till you tell me the bible verse where governing body is mentioned. Lol.

OK! You're still there,sorry i thought we've got pass that section since i've told you IT WAS FABRICATED just as other religious groups FABRICATED the Daddy and Mummy GO stuff.
So a normal person supposed to forget about that and continue with his life after all you're not dying because some people are obeying whatever their Papa or Daddy GO says nah!
Or is something poking your brains that Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY religious group you must continue to antagonise?

Hairyrapunzel:

So show us the bible verse that Jesus said you have to join a publishing company called watchtower organization and obey unquestionably the 8 old men in new York leading the organization in order to be saved?

na wah ooooo!
If your mind is disturbing you over those 8 old men in New York, know today that they're those representing the remaining anointed brothers of Jesus,they're remaining about 7,000 worldwide today and the over 8,000,000 ever growing members of JWs across the globe are just assisting them in the work Jesus gave them.
That's why Satan is trying to crush them but with the ever growing number of supporters worldwide Satan is frustrated, so he is instigating people like you against them. Therefore know today that nothing as in NOTHING can stop their followers from increasing on a daily bases!

Janosky:


Educated illiterate ....
A half baked illiterate like zodiakzax lacks comprehension skills.
That Janosky post pass your level.
Get outta here

...is that all you have to say?... ...liar... uve been exposed so shut your pagan mouth..

TATIME:
na wah ooooo!
If your mind is disturbing you over those 8 old men in New York, know today that they're those representing the remaining anointed brothers of Jesus,they're remaining about 7,000 worldwide today and the over 8,000,000 ever growing members of JWs across the globe are just assisting them in the work Jesus gave them.
That's why Satan is trying to crush them but with the ever growing number of supporters worldwide Satan is frustrated, so he is instigating people like you against them. Therefore know today that nothing as in NOTHING can stop their followers from increasing on a daily bases!

So you still can't provide a bible passage or verse that mentions governing body?

Hairyrapunzel:


So you still can't provide a bible passage or verse that mentions governing body?

JWs are truthfully doing justice to God's work,now i can understand why you were DISFELLOWSHIPPED. No more straight thinking!
Hmmmmmmmmm that's why they handed you over to the other side. Farewell oooooooo