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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by presido105: 7:03am On Jan 16, 2019
ChrisKels:


Seems u stock in ancient style of football. This age of soccer, wingers are played opposite their preferred foot unless u have a Drogba who feeds on crosses. Kalu wouldn't have scored those curlers with his left foot if he was played on the right hand side. Salah, Ronaldo, Chukwueze, Ojo, Balde etc wouldnt give u 100 percent playing on the wings that literarily corresponds with their preffered foot. Modern wingers, otherwise known as inverted wingers are required to cut in most of the time to score, lift the ball for the strikers or give defense splitting passes. Whipping in crosses ala the eras of Finidi aint really no sine-qua-nons of a good winger(s) today.

About Osimhen, plz eschew my posts whenever u wanna quote for quoting sake bkus I love quotes when u really have something to say. I wrote "prospect" and u drawing comparisons. Was that word and in the context it was used, really that hard to fathom?

Modified; the post already have them as u suggested abi u no notice?


Kalu...........Osimhen.......... Chukwueze

..................Iwobi....................

..........Mikel........ Ndidi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 7:10am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


Am not hyping Ambrose and I am not saying he should be invited because his time has pass,it's hard for you guys to take the truth that's one problem on this thread ,you have no defender than can cross the ball ,you have no defender that can score from set piece yet you are saying am hyping a player ,Ambrose is 30 already and we should know his real age should be close to 40.

Ozil is world class ,he only started being inconsistent recently so don't act as if he has been inconstitent all his career .

An inconstitent player will not play more than 100 games for Madrid ,they refuse to sell him to Arsenal that shows how good he is ,an inconstitent player will not win more than 90 caps for the German national team and have been regular there for the past 9 years till he retired

Stop being sentimental making it look as if Ozil have been inconstitent all his career ,so because a player has been inconstitent for the past 2 season means he has been so all his career ? Bro please try and be truthful, you will say am an Arsenal fan for that but you all l know am a Barca fan

You are not making sense at all concerning echiejile ,who will compare echiejile to Carlos ? What are you even saying self ? Maybe it's people like you that will compare omeruo to better defenders,it's even a crime to compare echiejile to Taiwo .

Abeg if na play stop am oooo

You started going like this-----

Then you started going like this \\\\\

Then you started going like this - - - - -

I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 7:19am On Jan 16, 2019
paulos8:
Iwobi and co don't even know when last they won afcon... Am I the only one not finding this funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XlY9C7SSik&t=183s
damn that's absurd.... But the interview was fun to watch cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:24am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


Ajayi and Omeruo are better than Efe Ambrose

He has not played for the SE for sometime because he's not up to par, when last did we mention him in this thread

He's linked with a 'supposed' move for the premier league suddenly he becomes Sergio Ramos

I have been talking about Efe for over a year he was bound for the championship but couldn't get past the work permit rules. I also know that Brighton were interested in him at that point.

Why after been frozen out by Brendan at Celtic he went Hibernian and became the outstanding CB in the Scottish premier league.

I usually say, l rather have a Lion in a lower league and cup than an anonymous mouse in a top league and club.

Efe Ambrose has been one or the most consistent defenders that Nigeria has over the past decade.

Ajayi is at best a league one player who has been largely anonymous everywhere he played. Omeruo was anonymous in the Championship and in Holland and then became let's say proficient in Turkey.

I will not rate Omeruo comprehensively better than Efe.

People have brought up the football age issue. This is the hypocrisy we have here we choose when to bring it in.

Efe is probably older than 30 IMO, but then how old is Omeruo too.

There has been a recent trend of looking at 10 years past. Compare the pictures of Omeruo who was 15 in 2009 and he has not changed much. Have you ever seen a 15 year old remain largely the same for 10 years. Don't need to day more.

So forget the age thing and look at continous, current, consistent top performances.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zayyadidris(m): 7:31am On Jan 16, 2019
With the afcon drawing closer, in the issue of our defence I'll rather play our RWB as Ebuehi then LWB as ola aina. What are your thoughts on this considering the fact we have a natural LWB Jamilu Collins?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:33am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


You started going like this-----

Then you started going like this \\\\\

Then you started going like this - - - - -

I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore grin

Lol oh so I dey confuse you now abi ?

Oya wetin bring echijile better than Carlos example ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 7:46am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


Lol oh so I dey confuse you now abi ?

Oya wetin bring echijile better than Carlos example ?

I juxtaposed one example with another

I'm saying because Efe has left the scene for sometime people now remember him fondly not minding his averageness

Maybe Echiejile will leave for sometime, when he comes back people will compare him to Roberto Carlos
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 7:54am On Jan 16, 2019
zayyadidris:
With the afcon drawing closer, in the issue of our defence I'll rather play our RWB as Ebuehi then LWB as ola aina. What are your thoughts on this considering the fact we have a natural LWB Jamilu Collins?

I think Jamilu Collins is still our best LB

Because he was average against South Africa playing LWB(an unnatural position for him) people have already relegated him to the background
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zayyadidris(m): 7:59am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


I think Jamilu Collins is still our best LB

Because he was average against South Africa playing LWB(an unnatural position for him) people have already relegated him to the background
Ooh sorry am still a novice in this, what's the difference between LB and LWB?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:02am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


I think Jamilu Collins is still our best LB

Because he was average against South Africa playing LWB(an unnatural position for him) people have already relegated him to the background

Sometimes, I still feel Brian Idowu has been judged unjustly. Which attack has Jamilu faced? Compared to Idowu that faced some of the best attacks in the World.

I still dey look Jamilu. Let him go to the AFCON first.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:04am On Jan 16, 2019
zayyadidris:
Ooh sorry am still a novice in this, what's the difference between LB and LWB?

A left back is a left defender, he basically stays in the back four of defence

A left wing-back is more complex, when the team is defending he is a left back, when the ball is in the midfield he is a left midfielder when the ball is in attack he is a winger

He basically moves up and down depending on the position of the ball

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:06am On Jan 16, 2019
Icon4s:


Sometimes, I still feel Brian Idowu has been judged unjustly. Which attack has Jamilu faced? Compared to Idowu that faced some of the best attacks in the World.

I still dey look Jamilu. Let him go to the AFCON first.

I don't know about defence but what Jamilu has shown is that he offers more than in attack
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:12am On Jan 16, 2019
zayyadidris:
Ooh sorry am still a novice in this, what's the difference between LB and LWB?

A left Back is a Full Back that plays at the Left Position of the defense. He is typically deployed in a Back 4 formation. He only occasionally joins in the attack from the Left wing.

A Left Wing Back is either a Left playing defender or a Left Winger deployed in the Left part of a midfield and is free to join in the left side of the defense and also join in the left side of the attack. This is typically deployed in a back 3 formation. "Wing Back" as the name applies is a Winger that joins the back[/b]line or a [b]Back[/b]liner that joins in [b]Wing play. smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:12am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


51 caps no b joke and e never play for naija for almost 4 years

Efe Ambrose is already 30/31 ,during his younger days he has played top flight football more than our current player ,played in the champions league constitently

Ambrose is one of our best scoring defender after Joseph yobo

Yes his time is past ,but sorry if e get an Epl move his time is back

Our defenders that cannot even score any goal from set piece ,all out corner kick na waste

He makes mistake in Celtic doesn't means he makes mistake in the eagles so no carry him club blunder come eagles abeg

Which better full back we get apart from ebuehi?

Also Ola aina because he has been doing well at torino and has improve a lot

So you think jamilu Collins is better than Ambrose ? Or shehu abdulahi then you must be joking

Ebuehi and aina are the only full back better than Ambrose ,take it or leave it
Shehu is better than both Efe and Aina defensively.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:13am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


I juxtaposed one example with another

I'm saying because Efe has left the scene for sometime people now remember him fondly not minding his averageness

Maybe Echiejile will leave for sometime, when he comes back people will compare him to Roberto Carlos


My point is that efe is good but his time his past,I don't want him to be Invited unless he got an Epl move or any other top league ,even if he is invited he won't start

I am just saying he was a better player than some of our defenders when he was younger

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:14am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


I don't know about defence but what Jamilu has shown is that he offers more than in attack

Idowu is also good going forward. In fact his major weakness is defending/positioning in the defensive position.

Besides, henn.. Jamilu has not really come under heavy attacks for you to fully assess his defensive capabilities.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:14am On Jan 16, 2019
@Andrew444 about Ozil you want me to say he's not an inconsistent player because he's only been inconsistent four the past 2 seasons ?

You forget that people are judged only on one match, Salah has been adjuged world class but he has not even been on fire for 2 seasons

A player who has been inconsistent for the past 2 seasons is an inconsistent player
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:19am On Jan 16, 2019
Icon4s:


Sometimes, I still feel Brian Idowu has been judged unjustly. Which attack has Jamilu faced? Compared to Idowu that faced some of the best attacks in the World.

I still dey look Jamilu. Let him go to the AFCON first.
O’pari.Bro you Sabi too much when it comes to player.Jamilu is not the solution.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:19am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:
@Andrew444 about Ozil you want me to say he's not an inconsistent player because he's only been inconsistent four the past 2 seasons ?

You forget that people are judged only on one match, Salah has been adjuged world class but he has not even been on fire for 2 seasons

A player who has been inconsistent for the past 2 seasons is an inconsistent player

At least Ozil don reach 30 ,you can't argue that Ozil is not a world class player despite your claims

Salah has not been on fire for 2 seasons ,now it clearly shows that you are watching back of tv

22 Epl games so far and 14 goals and that's not enough for you ?

Stop hating on Ozil and salah,they are already both world class players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:19am On Jan 16, 2019
EEGA:
Shehu is better than both Efe and Aina defensively.

Na lie ,shehu no better pass Ambrose for right back ,can shehu even cross ball ,you think current days right back Na just to dey defend ?

Oh ask Marcelo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:20am On Jan 16, 2019
EEGA:
Shehu is better than both Efe and Aina defensively.

Na lie ,shehu no better pass Ambrose for right back ,can shehu even cross ball ,you think current days right back Na just to dey defend ?

Oya ask Marcelo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:21am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


Na lie ,shehu no better pass Ambrose for right back ,can shehu even cross ball ,you think current days right back Na just to dey defend ?

Oh ask Marcelo

Are you by any means referring to Ambrose of 2013-2014 or the Current Ambrose?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:23am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


At least Ozil don reach 30 ,you can't argue that Ozil is not a world class player despite your claims

Salah has not been on fire for 2 seasons ,now it clearly shows that you are watching back of tv

22 Epl games so far and 14 goals and that's not enough for you ?

Stop hating on Ozil and salah,they are already both world class players

Salah, 2 seasons, I hope you know this season has not ended?

My point is 'a player is as good as his last game' if Salah can be judged as world class in 1and half seasons, Ozil can be judged as inconsistent in 2 seasons

P. S Am not hating anybody
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:29am On Jan 16, 2019
Icon4s:


Are you by any means referring to Ambrose of 2013-2014 or the Current Ambrose?
Andrew has clarified it.Ambrose of 2012-2014 better than present Shehu.I’m one of Shehu’s fans but pre WC and WC exposed Shehu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:34am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


Na lie ,shehu no better pass Ambrose for right back ,can shehu even cross ball ,you think current days right back Na just to dey defend ?

Oh ask Marcelo
Shehu had a MOTM performance and an assist against Zambia that qualified us for WC.

Aina is good when attacking but average when it comes to defending.I recall his error against Argentina where he was too attack minded exposing Balogun for one of Arg goal
and in another friendly where his tackle resulted in a PK against us.

Shehu is better defending which stops the team from conceding through the right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zayyadidris(m): 8:35am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


A left back is a left defender, he basically stays in the back four of defence

A left wing-back is more complex, when the team is defending he is a left back, when the ball is in the midfield he is a left midfielder when the ball is in attack he is a winger

He basically moves up and down depending on the position of the ball
Ooh thank you much.!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zayyadidris(m): 8:36am On Jan 16, 2019
Icon4s:


A left Back is a Full Back that plays at the Left Position of the defense. He is typically deployed in a Back 4 formation. He only occasionally joins in the attack from the Left wing.

A Left Wing Back is either a Left playing defender or a Left Winger deployed in the Left part of a midfield and is free to join in the left side of the defense and also join in the left side of the attack. This is typically deployed in a back 3 formation. "Wing Back" as the name applies is a Winger that joins the back[/b]line or a [b]Back[/b]liner that joins in [b]Wing play. smiley
understood. Thank you Icon4s.!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:41am On Jan 16, 2019
EEGA:
Shehu had a MOTM performance and an assist against Zambia that qualified us for WC.

Aina is good when attacking but average when it comes to defending.I recall his error against Argentina where he was too attack minded exposing Balogun for one of Arg goal
and in another friendly where his tackle resulted in a PK against us.

Shehu is better defending which stops the team from conceding through the right.

You don turn komekn wey dey use man of the match judge players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:46am On Jan 16, 2019
Earthquake1:


Salah, 2 seasons, I hope you know this season has not ended?

My point is 'a player is as good as his last game' if Salah can be judged as world class in 1and half seasons, Ozil can be judged as inconsistent in 2 seasons

P. S Am not hating anybody

Shebi una say na one season wonder now e don dey do am again ,even if salah end at the 14 goals he is at this season is it a crime? You are already scared because you know he will score more than 20 goals then you will hide your self in shame in your cave

Salah is a winger and it's a crime for him not to score much goals but it's not a crime for hazard not to score

Salah scored more than 30 last season yet you guys hate him ,but the Epl agbalagba eden hazard has never scored 20 goals in an Epl season ,yet he is always good in everyone eyes but you guys keep on looking for excuse to call salah a 1 season wonder now he is a 2 season wonder maybe next season he will be a 3 season wonder ,mtscheew
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:47am On Jan 16, 2019
Icon4s:


Are you by any means referring to Ambrose of 2013-2014 or the Current Ambrose?

Ambrose of shehu age which is 25 is miles ahead of shehu ,wait make shehu reach 30 make we see
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:52am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:


Shebi una say na one season wonder now e don dey do am again ,even if salah end at the 14 goals he is at this season is it a crime? You are already scared because you know he will score more than 20 goals then you will hide your self in shame in your cave

Salah is a winger and it's a crime for him not to score much goals but it's not a crime for hazard not to score

Salah scored more than 30 last season yet you guys hate him ,but the Epl agbalagba eden hazard has never scored 20 goals in an Epl season ,yet he is always good in everyone eyes but you guys keep on looking for excuse to call salah a 1 season wonder now he is a 2 season wonder maybe next season he will be a 3 season wonder ,mtscheew

Ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:03am On Jan 16, 2019
andrew444:



My point is that efe is good but his time his past,I don't want him to be Invited unless he got an Epl move or any other top league ,even if he is invited he won't start

I am just saying he was a better player than some of our defenders when he was younger

My view is simple let all of them be tested no favoritism let the best man win.

For me Omeruo has been at best average never been outstanding at anything. How he still remains in the SE is beyond me. Or is it a reflection of no competition or scarcity of quality within our available CB 's

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