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I am sure many of us would like to believe you and your comrades are walking in the Spirit-but your fruit gives you away-your pride gives you away, if you had the Spirit of God within-you wouldn't need to brag about your ordeal, because your focus will be on Christ, everything we do is Christ within-His glory that should be magnified, not your glory by works..
{Galatians 5:16-18} So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to one another, so that you do not do what you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.…
The Spirit of God stands within, where He is seen by the believers, while you claim to be somewhat a believer and still you can't recognise Him.
{Galatians 5:13–15} "We are called to freedom . . . so through love be servants of one another”
The Spirit of God is using men and women all over the world-equally they are filled in the Spirit of God spreading His gospel.
Now this gospel the Lord said to spread across the globe is not your gospel-you are spreading a completely different gospel, which doesn't line up with the Word of God-your love does not shine-its full of darkness-it's a controlled system created by the Watchtower society.
This is not Christ in you-Christ does not shine bright within your organisation-of course I am not expecting you to agree-your darkness in the light does not shine
{2 Corinthians 6:14} Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
The darkness in you can not shine in the day-it could take years for someone with your intellectual abilities to know the truth within the body of Christ, until you decide to study the Word of God-you will always walk on the outer circle, it takes a lot of strength to accept the truth-and to walk in the Spirit of God!
Your works are dead-what more can I say? You can believe the JW's have it what it takes, your works is only works-you can't accept the truth about Christ, because the spirit in you is the spirit of Antichrist.
God had allowed you to believe the lie-because you don't have His Spirit of God in you to believe the truth!!

TATIME:
According to Paul's letter to the Galatians, it's not for humans like you and i to determine where the Spirit of God is operating because there is no group of persons that will agree they are worshiping Satan. Paul only listed the qualities of God's holy spirit so that honest hearted individuals can SEE these qualities for recognising the group in whose midst God's spirit is WORKING. Paul knew that there will be criticism over this so he concluded after verifying these qualities "don't raise any other law against such a Group" Galatians 5:22,23

achorladey:
TATIME@ 3:31am January 25 2019.
Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONE and ONLY group globally that's working out these qualities AS A GROUP, all other religious groups are just saying "we know these,we know that" but they're not working out any tangible as in profitable thing with all their established religions!

TATIME@ 8:26am January 26 2019.
ACCORDING TO PAUL'S LETTER TO THE GALATIANS, it's not for humans like YOU and I to DETERMINE where the Spirit of God is operating because there is NO GROUP of PERSONS that will agree they are worshiping Satan.

All of these on page 241 of the same thread.Contradictions all over.

Oga TATIME what would follower of yours make of the the two posts highlighted above?

You are the worstest analyser ever!
Someone is POINTING to a group that he is SEEING working out the qualities listed at Galatians 5:22,23 whereas these ones are saying it's not so. OK tell us the name of that group that is working out these qualities, they remain silent on that.
Try to open your mind to embrace the TRUTH Sir,if you are saying there is God and there are FAKE groups claiming they are worshipping this ONE God, is it not stupidity if you are not able to POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT honest hearted persons to the group doing fine in QUALITIES listed in the Bible?

TATIME:
You are the worstest analyser ever!
Someone is POINTING to a group that he is SEEING working out the qualities listed at Galatians 5:22,23 whereas these ones are saying it's not so. OK tell us the name of that group that is working out these qualities, they remain silent on that.
Try to open your mind to embrace the TRUTH Sir,if you are saying there is God and there are FAKE groups claiming they are worshipping this ONE God, is it not stupidity if you are not able to POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT honest hearted persons to the group doing fine in QUALITIES listed in the Bible?

I don't have to be the most excellent analyzer as it were. WETIN WE GAIN after becoming the best analyzer and still don't know the TRUTH.

The TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH, THE TRUTH....... hmmmmm John 18:36,37

37“You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
38“What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.

Same thing happened to Pilate, the TRUTH was standing in from of him but was Pilate willing to LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF TRUTH?

What truth is there to EMBRACE that is bigger than embracing the CHRIST and listening to his voice?

It's a pity when any other religious group CONFESS Christ as Lord you will not accept simply because they are not JWs but were a Jw to do so, you will readily accept. What makes the confession of Jws different from other religious denominations or group?

Listed in the bible are 'One must be born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God-this is the only group of people who are listed to be with the Lord when He returns!
Your organisation have not come into agreement with this yet-now I am not saying it will never happen 'God can do miracles, and He can change nations through prayer.
But until you read the Word of God, you may never come to know the truth about God, you may never realise this is the truth we have been preaching to you all along, the Word of God did not come from the Watchtower, and we don't call on the name of Jehovah to be saved-Jesus's name is above every other name in Heaven on Earth and under the Earth..He is the true God and everlasting..

TATIME:
You are the worstest analyser ever!
Someone is POINTING to a group that he is SEEING working out the qualities listed at Galatians 5:22,23 whereas these ones are saying it's not so. OK tell us the name of that group that is working out these qualities, they remain silent on that.
Try to open your mind to embrace the TRUTH Sir,if you are saying there is God and there are FAKE groups claiming they are worshipping this ONE God, is it not stupidity if you are not able to POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT honest hearted persons to the group doing fine in QUALITIES listed in the Bible?

brocab:
I am sure many of us would like to believe you and your comrades are walking in the Spirit-but your fruit gives you away-your pride gives you away, if you had the Spirit of God within-you wouldn't need to brag about your ordeal, because your focus will be on Christ, everything we do is Christ within-His glory that should be magnified, not your glory by works..
{Galatians 5:16-18} So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are opposed to one another, so that you do not do what you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.…
The Spirit of God stands within, where He is seen by the believers, while you claim to be somewhat a believer and still you can't recognise Him.
{Galatians 5:13–15} "We are called to freedom . . . so through love be servants of one another”
The Spirit of God is using men and women all over the world-equally they are filled in the Spirit of God spreading His gospel.
Now this gospel the Lord said to spread across the globe is not your gospel-you are spreading a completely different gospel, which doesn't line up with the Word of God-your love does not shine-its full of darkness-it's a controlled system created by the Watchtower society.
This is not Christ in you-Christ does not shine bright within your organisation-of course I am not expecting you to agree-your darkness in the light does not shine
{2 Corinthians 6:14} Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
The darkness in you can not shine in the day-it could take years for someone with your intellectual abilities to know the truth within the body of Christ, until you decide to study the Word of God-you will always walk on the outer circle, it takes a lot of strength to accept the truth-and to walk in the Spirit of God!
Your works are dead-what more can I say? You can believe the JW's have it what it takes, your works is only works-you can't accept the truth about Christ, because the spirit in you is the spirit of Antichrist.
God had allowed you to believe the lie-because you don't have His Spirit of God in you to believe the truth!!

so true

most of what phony jw tatime writes is his bragging about how good his church is
it's his god satan that puts that spirit of false puffed up pride in him

false jw's don't understand the bible
but get their directions from the witchpower magazine etc.

they must also use the lie brary

achorladey:
I don't have to be the most excellent analyzer as it were. WETIN WE GAIN after becoming the best analyzer and still don't know the TRUTH.

The TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH, THE TRUTH....... hmmmmm John 18:36,37

37“You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
38“What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.

Same thing happened to Pilate, the TRUTH was standing in from of him but was Pilate willing to LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF TRUTH?

What truth is there to EMBRACE that is bigger than embracing the CHRIST and listening to his voice?

It's a pity when any other religious group CONFESS Christ as Lord you will not accept simply because they are not JWs but were a Jw to do so, you will readily accept. What makes the confession of Jws different from other religious denominations or group?

Thousands of different religious groups with contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming they belong to ONE individual who's life,ministry and the activities of His first ever approved followers are well DOCUMENTED for future references. YES Sir! The *TRUTH* is all these divers ideologies NO matter what they're teaching belongs to Jesus of Nazareth!

brocab:
Listed in the bible are 'One must be born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God-this is the only group of people who are listed to be with the Lord when He returns!
Your organisation have not come into agreement with this yet-now I am not saying it will never happen 'God can do miracles, and He can change nations through prayer.
But until you read the Word of God, you may never come to know the truth about God, you may never realise this is the truth we have been preaching to you all along, the Word of God did not come from the Watchtower, and we don't call on the name of Jehovah to be saved-Jesus's name is above every other name in Heaven on Earth and under the Earth..He is the true God and everlasting..

THEORIES! THEORIES!! THEORIES!!!
Jehovah's Witnsesses are also TEACHING their own THEORIES but we're now asking for the PRACTICAL
Jehovah's Witnesses have formed a global group (Isaiah 2:1-4) and it's obvious that what they are teaching is VISIBLE in their midst! Galatians 5:22,23
So we're not saying "you people can't read the Bible" but over 8million people worldwide are saying we've seen the EVIDENCE of God's holy spirit backing Jehovah's Witnesses PERIOD! Zechariah 8:23

Hairyrapunzel:
At the end of everything you are still wishing. Extermination of people who don't distribute magazines for watchtower organization is still inside your head. It's just in your imagination. In other words it isn't real.

keep up the good work. I heard and I can confirm that you are shedding light on the irrationality of the JW cult. Beware of TATIME, I don't know what's wrong with him and his is incorrigible. He's weird.

Martinez19:
keep up the good work. I heard and I can confirm that you are shedding light on the irrationality of the JW cult. Beware of TATIME, I don't know what's wrong with him and his is incorrigible. He's weird.

What is this one saying?
Your statement shows that you are on the same page & level as the man u gave a pat on the back.
Personal Assistant to the Gubernatorial Candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State.

Ekushe oooo . Lol

TATIME:
Thousands of different religious groups with contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming they belong to ONE individual who's life,ministry and the activities of His first ever approved followers are well DOCUMENTED for future references. YES Sir! The *TRUTH* is all these divers ideologies NO matter what they're teaching belongs to Jesus of Nazareth!

Are the JWS among the thousands of the DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS GROUP with contradicting and conflicting teachings?

Check this out as a very good example......


TATIME@ 3:31am January 25 2019.
Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONE and ONLY group globally that's working out these qualities AS A GROUP, all other religious groups are just saying "we know these,we know that" but they're not working out any tangible as in profitable thing with all their established religions!


TATIME@ 8:26am January 26 2019.
ACCORDING TO PAUL'S LETTER TO THE GALATIANS, it's not for humans like YOU and I to DETERMINE where the Spirit of God is operating because there is NO GROUP of PERSONS that will agree they are worshiping Satan.

TATIME:
THEORIES! THEORIES!! THEORIES!!!

No 'Word 'Word 'Word of God, Is the answer!!! This same Word you deny..

TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnsesses are also TEACHING their own THEORIES but we're now asking for the PRACTICAL

This is true-you are asking for your theories and asking man alone for the Practical..

TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses have formed a global group (Isaiah 2:1-4) and it's obvious that what they are teaching is VISIBLE in their midst! Galatians 5:22,23
So we're not saying "you people can't read the Bible" but over 8million people worldwide are saying we've seen the EVIDENCE of God's holy spirit backing Jehovah's Witnesses PERIOD! Zechariah 8:23

You believe there is One God even the demons believe and refuse His Word-Jesus say's one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God!
So what evidence have you ever produced-only the fact that 8 million people have been lied too-you have been baptised in the name of the Father {Jehovah} the Son {Michael the archangel} and the Holy Spirit {An active force}
I would believe you if you were baptised in the name of The Beast, the False Prophet and the Antichrist, '"But claiming to be some what saved under what authority you may think you have-and without producing any evidence to prove the Holy Spirit would even back up a false gospel the Jehovah witnesses proclaim-Then I have the rights to judge you by what fruit you have produced-you are a lair and a false prophet!!!
{Romans 10:17} So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
So where is your faith JW when you had denied all truth about Christ and nothing but the truth Amen!!!

TATIME:
THEORIES! THEORIES!! THEORIES!!!
Jehovah's Witnsesses are also TEACHING their own THEORIES but we're now asking for the PRACTICAL
Jehovah's Witnesses have formed a global group (Isaiah 2:1-4) and it's obvious that what they are teaching is VISIBLE in their midst! Galatians 5:22,23
So we're not saying "you people can't read the Bible" but over 8million people worldwide are saying we've seen the EVIDENCE of God's holy spirit backing Jehovah's Witnesses PERIOD! Zechariah 8:23

Janosky:
What is this one saying?
Your statement shows that you are on the same page & level as the man u gave a pat on the back.
Personal Assistant to the Gubernatorial Candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State.

Ekushe oooo . Lol

See someone that is calling another person kolo. Lol
You that keeps wishing your jehovah will exterminate people who don't distribute magazines for watchtower organization Nko? Is it not the same as delusional disorder?

How will someone believe in the wishes of a magazine published by a new York based publishing company?
Lol.

Janosky:
What is this one saying?
Your statement shows that you are on the same page & level as the man u gave a pat on the back.
Personal Assistant to the Gubernatorial Candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State.

Ekushe oooo . Lol

Martinez is a confirmed ATHEIST, he knows very well the ONE and ONLY group that's tearing their faculty down is JWs! 2Corinthians 10:5
So when i said "all of them are ATHEISTS but some are fully aware of their stand,while majority are still ignorant of this FACT" someone who isn't meditating on FACTS will say "but these ones aren't saying 'there is no God'" Now all the ATHEISTS whether those who truthfully acknowledge it or those still practicing ATHEISM in confusion are gradually patting one another in the back!

TATIME:
Martinez is a confirmed ATHEIST, he knows very well the ONE and ONLY group that's tearing their faculty down is JWs! 2Corinthians 10:5
So when i said "all of them are ATHEISTS but some are fully aware of their stand,while majority are still ignorant of this FACT" someone who isn't meditating on FACTS will say "but these ones aren't saying 'there is no God'" Now all the ATHEISTS whether those who truthfully acknowledge it or those still practicing ATHEISM in confusion are gradually patting one another in the back!

such confusion, but what else could come from you lying pharisee tatime
talk about patting others on the back, you false jw's do it all the time

but i won't lie and call you atheist, although you don't know the true God,
you are in fact polytheist, believing in false gods
a almighty god the father and a mighty god the son, two gods
however Almighty and Mighty is names for the one true God, not two gods
ask for proof scriptures

Martinez19:
keep up the good work. I heard and I can confirm that you are shedding light on the irrationality of the JW cult. Beware of TATIME, I don't know what's wrong with him and his is incorrigible. He's weird.

tatime, jano/onej etc.
they are all tarnished with the same beelzebub

tarred with the same brush

achorladey:
Are the JWS among the thousands of the DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS GROUP with contradicting and conflicting teachings?

Check this out as a very good example......


TATIME@ 3:31am January 25 2019.
Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONE and ONLY group globally that's working out these qualities AS A GROUP, all other religious groups are just saying "we know these,we know that" but they're not working out any tangible as in profitable thing with all their established religions!


TATIME@ 8:26am January 26 2019.
ACCORDING TO PAUL'S LETTER TO THE GALATIANS, it's not for humans like YOU and I to DETERMINE where the Spirit of God is operating because there is NO GROUP of PERSONS that will agree they are worshiping Satan.

Mr Analyser Achorladey,
You're doing well sir but there is something you aren't getting straight in Tatime's comments Sir!
We as humans can't say without confirming the FRUITAGE of God's holy spirit that one religion is fake or pure. It has happened before that Pharisees stood quoting the scriptures,while Jesus also stood quoting the same scriptures but this two parties are not serving the same purpose! So how was it settled? According to Jesus (the one you now agreed is the TRUTH), honest hearted persons should leave their arguments and look straight at the FRUITS or WORKS of both parties. Matthew 7:15-20,11:19
So according to Jesus of Nazareth, i {Tatime} shouldn't bother myself over their arguments,rather i should simply look straight up to their ability to produce the qualities of God's holy spirit! Matthew 7:24-27
Apostle Paul said the same thing at Galatians 5:22,23 adding "against such,THERE IS NO LAW" So if someone like you is now saying "all these religious groups claiming Christians are worshiping the same God" whereas i am SEEING serious conflicts and contradictions within them, i won't just sit back and say "achorladey said all of them are OK" i will VERIFY by considering the group producing the FRUITAGE of God's holy spirit. And i have presented all what i found within JWs but if you're not in agreement with my discovery just POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT me to another group that is PRODUCING the FRUIT. Jesus had warned that there will be false prophets and they will mislead many so you can't tell me there is no TRUTH standing out of all these different religious groups having conflicting teachings and contradicting doctrines yet all claiming they are worshiping the same God!

johnw47:
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tatime, jano/onej etc.
they are all tarnished with the same beelzebub

tarred with the same brush

Martinez is a CONFIRMED atheist!
You may not realise this because things of the spirit need to be examined the spiritual way. 1Corinthians 2:13
ATHEISTS are claiming there can't be found any perfect wisdom,though this may seem subtle and simple but think over it. If Jesus is the same person that we're to prove our loyalty to,yet it is ONLY this same Jesus that came and passed this test, please how are we going to explain to a lay man that someone who could also err like every other person have succeeded in what we're asking them to do?
Is this not tantamount to saying "there is no perfect model to emulate?"
Remember we are to prove our loyalty to Go, so if Jesus is this same God then sincere individuals will conclude (no mortal man can master these required qualities), that is why there are so many religious groups all claiming Christians but none is asking "what exactly are we to do in order to gain salvation?"
All you'll hear them say is "accept Jesus as your personal Lord and saviour" but what does this entails? Everyone will now start telling you different things!
Don't you realise that this is exactly what these ATHEISTS are joyfully backing on to debunk the Bible?
Well if Martinez an atheist who is stringent on "no perfect wisdom" is making sense to you than those claiming there must be perfect wisdom somewhere,i'll rest my case!

Martinez19:
keep up the good work. I heard and I can confirm that you are shedding light on the irrationality of the JW cult. Beware of TATIME, I don't know what's wrong with him and his is incorrigible. He's weird.

ATHEISM is everywhere my friend and fast catching up with youths in all places but TRUE Christians have been warned on what you people will later do to us when your faculty finally destroy FALSE religion.
All these atheists claiming one religion or the other will soon join you,then you'll have enough army to battle against the TRUTH. But know one thing today that JWs are ready to lay down our lives for our FAITH,so when you're going about inflicting pains on God's people remember Tatime have told you what God revealed to us. You may decide to kill your conscience by then,but if you realise your blunders and makes a U~turn to beg JEHOVAH for help to gain HIS approval because of you are reading today. HE will show you mercy,though other atheists will gruesomely deal with you but don't let that disturb your soul because they can only kill the body. Matthew 10:28
If you are able to stand against all odds by that time and repent to become one of Jesus' TRUE followers i'm congratulating you in advance Sir,see you in Paradise!

TATIME:
ATHEISM is everywhere my friend and fast catching up with youths in all places but TRUE Christians have been warned on what you people will later do to us when your faculty finally destroy FALSE religion.
All these atheists claiming one religion or the other will soon join you,then you'll have enough army to battle against the TRUTH. But know one thing today that JWs are ready to lay down our lives for our FAITH,so when you're going about inflicting pains on God's people remember Tatime have told you what God revealed to us. You may decide to kill your conscience by then,but if you realise your blunders and makes a U~turn to beg JEHOVAH for help to gain HIS approval because of you are reading today. HE will show you mercy,though other atheists will gruesomely deal with you but don't let that disturb your soul because they can only kill the body. Matthew 10:28
If you are able to stand against all odds by that time and repent to become one of Jesus' TRUE followers i'm congratulating you in advance Sir,see you in Paradise!

Last last paradise is still a wish. It's all in your head and imagination. It's still not real life.

TATIME:
You are the worstest analyser ever!
Someone is POINTING to a group that he is SEEING working out the qualities listed at Galatians 5:22,23 whereas these ones are saying it's not so. OK tell us the name of that group that is working out these qualities, they remain silent on that.
Try to open your mind to embrace the TRUTH Sir,if you are saying there is God and there are FAKE groups claiming they are worshipping this ONE God, is it not stupidity if you are not able to POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT honest hearted persons to the group doing fine in QUALITIES listed in the Bible?

At the end of the day he just exposed your lies. How you people change your words to suit same situation. After saying something the next thing is to say the opposite thinking people you are talking to are daft.

Hairyrapunzel:
At the end of the day he just exposed your lies. How you people change your words to suit same situation. After saying something the next thing is to say the opposite thinking people you are talking to are daft.

TATIME:

Nothing to say again? Your delusional ideas and preoccupation are already finished now now?

Hairyrapunzel:
Nothing to say again? Your delusional ideas and preoccupation are already finished now now?

1Timothy 6:4,Philippians 2:14,Colossians 2:4,Titus 3:9

TATIME:
1Timothy 6:4,Philippians 2:14,Colossians 2:4,Titus 3:9

Now is to list bible verses. Lol. Shame no let you even show us wetin these bible verses talk. Lol

TATIME:
Mr Analyser Achorladey,
You're doing well sir but there is something you aren't getting straight in Tatime's comments Sir!
We as humans can't say without confirming the FRUITAGE of God's holy spirit that one religion is fake or pure. It has happened before that Pharisees stood quoting the scriptures,while Jesus also stood quoting the same scriptures but this two parties are not serving the same purpose! So how was it settled? According to Jesus (the one you now agreed is the TRUTH), honest hearted persons should leave their arguments and look straight at the FRUITS or WORKS of both parties. Matthew 7:15-20,11:19
So according to Jesus of Nazareth, i {Tatime} shouldn't bother myself over their arguments,rather i should simply look straight up to their ability to produce the qualities of God's holy spirit! Matthew 7:24-27
Apostle Paul said the same thing at Galatians 5:22,23 adding "against such,THERE IS NO LAW" So if someone like you is now saying "all these religious groups claiming Christians are worshiping the same God" whereas i am SEEING serious conflicts and contradictions within them, i won't just sit back and say "achorladey said all of them are OK" i will VERIFY by considering the group producing the FRUITAGE of God's holy spirit. And i have presented all what i found within JWs but if you're not in agreement with my discovery just POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT me to another group that is PRODUCING the FRUIT. Jesus had warned that there will be false prophets and they will mislead many so you can't tell me there is no TRUTH standing out of all these different religious groups having conflicting teachings and contradicting doctrines yet all claiming they are worshiping the same God!

TATIME: And i have presented ALL what i found within JWs.

Achorladey: Kudos to you for doing so. It's just that it's what YOU HAVE FOUND, you could have taken your time to compare and contrast what others have found with yours and see the point they are trying to make as to why the religion of the JWS is not different from the other religious denominations.


TATIME: but if you're not in agreement with my discovery just POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT me to another group that is PRODUCING the FRUIT.

Achorladey: Humans are at liberty to agree or disagree with issues being discussed, as regards POINT, NAME, and DIRECTING you to other religious group, this I have done on this same thread and you indeed get the sense of the direction back then, I don't know where, what other direction you seek.

Or perhaps this can also serve as guide, WHAT FRUITAGE of the SPIRIT (Galatians 5:22-23) is in the members and adherents of the religion of JWs that is absent in every religious groups and denominations?

Galatians 5: 24-26.......Those who BELONG to CHRIST Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the SPIRIT, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become CONCEITED, PROVOKING and ENVYING each other.

The key word I was looking for while citing this bible text is CONCEITED. Oga TATIME pick up a dictionary to see the meaning and see why raising the Jws organization beyond the necessary is uncalled for.

achorladey:
TATIME: And i have presented ALL what i found within JWs.

Achorladey: Kudos to you for doing so. It's just that it's what YOU HAVE FOUND, you could have taken your time to compare and contrast what others have found with yours and see the point they are trying to make as to why the religion of the JWS is not different from the other religious denominations.


TATIME: but if you're not in agreement with my discovery just POINT,SHOW,NAME,DIRECT me to another group that is PRODUCING the FRUIT.

Achorladey: Humans are at liberty to agree or disagree with issues being discussed, as regards POINT, NAME, and DIRECTING you to other religious group, this I have done on this same thread and you indeed get the sense of the direction back then, I don't know where, what other direction you seek.

Or perhaps this can also serve as guide, WHAT FRUITAGE of the SPIRIT (Galatians 5:22-23) is in the members and adherents of the religion of JWs that is absent in every religious groups and denominations?

Galatians 5: 24-26.......Those who BELONG to CHRIST Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the SPIRIT, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become CONCEITED, PROVOKING and ENVYING each other.

The key word I was looking for while citing this bible text is CONCEITED. Oga TATIME pick up a dictionary to see the meaning and see why raising the Jws organization beyond the necessary is uncalled for.

If you feel all religious groups claiming Christians belongs to Jesus it's OK,and if i feel there should be ONE unique group that interested individuals can examine to know EXACTLY what Jesus taught back then it's OK.
It's not compulsory that we agree,each person is free to present his/her conviction. I believe in SEEING the practical applications of what Christianity stand for but you believe when someone claims he/she is a Christian there shouldn't be anything like examining the practical applications.
So go and worship your God the best way you're pleased while i also go and worship my own God the best way i know! God bless you Sir.

TATIME:
If you feel all religious groups claiming Christians belongs to Jesus it's OK,and if i feel there should be ONE unique group that interested individuals can examine to know EXACTLY what Jesus taught back then it's OK.
It's not compulsory that we agree,each person is free to present his/her conviction. I believe in SEEING the practical applications of what Christianity stand for but you believe when someone claims he/she is a Christian there shouldn't be anything like examining the practical applications.
So go and worship your God the best way you're pleased while i also go and worship my own God the best way i know! God bless you Sir.

TATIME: I believe in SEEING the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what CHRISTIANITY STAND FOR

Achorladey: Your telling me in essence that SEEING is BELIEVING. John 20:29....Then Jesus told him,"Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen yet have believed." You know why Jesus said this........He had already said the key thing his WOULD BE disciple need to do before THIS TIME in John 6:29........The work of God is this: TO BELIEVE in the one HE has SENT.

"TO BELIEVE" in itself is WORK.

So Oga TATIME, I Achorladey have not seen Jesus before but the WORK Jesus impressed me to do is TO BELIEVE him without SEEING HIM. When I do so I remain blessed.


TATIME: but you believe when someone claims he/she is a Christian there shouldn't be anything like examining the practical applications.

Achorladey: Please do itemize the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS in order for me to see maybe I indeed believe that those things need EXAMINATION or NOT.

achorladey:
TATIME: I believe in SEEING the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what CHRISTIANITY STAND FOR

Achorladey: Your telling me in essence that SEEING is BELIEVING. John 20:29....Then Jesus told him,"Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen yet have believed." You know why Jesus said this........He had already said the key thing his WOULD BE disciple need to do before thiTs timTe in John 6:29........The work of God is this: TO BELIEVE in the one HE has SENT.

"TO BELIEVE" in itself is WORK.

So Oga TATIME, I Achorladey have not seen Jesus before but the WORK Jesus impressed me to do is TO BELIEVE him without SEEING HIM. When I do so I remain blessed.


TATIME: but you believe when someone claims he/she is a Christian there shouldn't be anything like examining the practical applications.

Achorladey: Please do itemize the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS in order for me to see maybe I indeed believe that those things need EXAMINATION or NOT.

It's pointless prolonging the debate Sir since i've gotten your view regarding the numerous religious groups claiming Christians. Go worship your God while i too go and worship my own God.
Thanks God bless you Sir!

TATIME:
Martinez is a CONFIRMED atheist!
You may not realise this because things of the spirit need to be examined the spiritual way. 1Corinthians 2:13
ATHEISTS are claiming there can't be found any perfect wisdom,though this may seem subtle and simple but think over it. If Jesus is the same person that we're to prove our loyalty to,yet it is ONLY this same Jesus that came and passed this test, please how are we going to explain to a lay man that someone who could also err like every other person have succeeded in what we're asking them to do?
Is this not tantamount to saying "there is no perfect model to emulate?"
Remember we are to prove our loyalty to Go, so if Jesus is this same God then sincere individuals will conclude (no mortal man can master these required qualities), that is why there are so many religious groups all claiming Christians but none is asking "what exactly are we to do in order to gain salvation?"
All you'll hear them say is "accept Jesus as your personal Lord and saviour" but what does this entails? Everyone will now start telling you different things!
Don't you realise that this is exactly what these ATHEISTS are joyfully backing on to debunk the Bible?
Well if Martinez an atheist who is stringent on "no perfect wisdom" is making sense to you than those claiming there must be perfect wisdom somewhere,i'll rest my case!

an atheist doesn't believe in God

a false jw claims to know God but calls the Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ "a god"
a false jw twists-changes the meaning of much of God's word to suit your false doctrines
etc. etc.

to me an atheist is far better than an antichrist false jw

if this was how you have been comprehending things, am not suprised why you ended up like this . Faulty comprehension is a danger to spiritual health

achorladey:
When persons are in great DANGER of a SOURCE they do not suspect or are being MISLED by those they consider there FRIENDS, is it an UNKINDNESS to WARN them? They may prefer not to believe the WARNING. They may even RESENT it, but does that FREE one from the MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to give that WARNING..............Watchtower January 15, 1974


A very good example of what the Watchtower cited above wants us to do can be analysed in......... Watchtower October 2018 study edition article 3 titled PUT TRUST IN OUR ACTIVE LEADER- THE CHRIST......... paragraphs 6,7....

Paragraph 6..........Joshua received clear instructions from the angelic Leader on how to take the city of Jericho. At first, some of the INSTRUCTIONS MAY not have appeared to be a GOOD STRATEGY. For instance, Jehovah commanded that all the men be CIRCUMCISED, which would leave them INDISPOSED for several days. Was it really the right time to CIRCUMCISE those able-bodied men?​


Paragraphs 7.......Likely, those defenseless Israelite soldiers wondered how they would protect their family if enemy warriors raided their camp. But suddenly, the news broke that Jericho was “tightly shut up because of the Israelites.” ( Josh. 6:1 ) Would their trust in God’s direction not have been strengthened by such an unexpected turn of events?


Paragraphs 6,7 wants to promote the IDEA that God gave an USUAL instruction/IDEA/Strategy when leading the Israelites into BATTLE through Joshua by quoting Joshua 5:2,8 then Joshua 6:1 to prove the POINT.

U get it. But your faulty reasoning rear its ugly head below

Unfortunately the whole thing crumbled when you read
Joshua 5:1........... As soon as all the kings of the Amʹor·ites who were on the west side of the Jordan and all the kings of the Caʹnaan·ites who were by the sea heard that Jehovah had dried up the waters of the Jordan before the Israelites until they had crossed over, they lost heart, and they lost all courage because of the Israelites.

God was aware of the above, so he gave the instruction !

Question for you: Are all the Israelites aware of this panic mode ?


You see your life. The article said the defenceless soldiers may have wondered. , because unlike God who saw all things naked including the HEART of those kings that has melted away. , Humans among the Israelites might not have noticed this. But still harbor fear.

This is the proper reason God commanded Joshua to circumcise the people, before God gave the command Canaanites were in PANIC MODE already (Joshua 5:1). It was that PANIC mode that made them shut Jericho Joshua 6:1.

How many isrealites are aware of the panic in the HEART of this nations ?

This is where what the article said about them wondering why such an instruction came in.

Learn to apply sense.

Oga TATIME when someone tells a JW that they usually TURN THEIR BIBLE UP SIDE DOWN, it's never to shame the JWS, they must have come across various things when reading the NWT to make such inference, yours is to investigate and not begoff or wave it away.

Bible scholar , since you now know more than those that taught you about Jehovah. Respond to the above and let's see who lacks comrehension of what happened in Joshua 5 and 6

#AB

TATIME:
If you feel all religious groups claiming Christians belongs to Jesus it's OK,and if i feel there should be ONE unique group that interested individuals can examine to know EXACTLY what Jesus taught back then it's OK.
It's not compulsory that we agree,each person is free to present his/her conviction. I believe in SEEING the practical applications of what Christianity stand for but you believe when someone claims he/she is a Christian there shouldn't be anything like examining the practical applications.
So go and worship your God the best way you're pleased while i also go and worship my own God the best way i know! God bless you Sir.

[i] Been a while , you don't have to waste much time with that faulty comprehender , if he can misunderstood an ordinary 2 paragraph I wonder how he will grab your points.

Jesus is the truth Yet the bible Established Jesus is head over *His congregation* , Christ has a congregation of people he is directing , United under him . ask him to show you that Congregation so you can Join ? Na where e go hang be that

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