https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxIe3-Hl6g

Don't this people STUDY their Bible? Are these pastors not supposed to know better? What's this nonsense and craziness going on and folks following like they blind? Somebody help us call these madness out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_9_wzBAo8

Goshen360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxIe3-Hl6g

Don't this people STUDY their Bible? Are these pastors not supposed to know better? What's this nonsense and craziness going on and folks following like they blind? Somebody help us call these madness out!

I guess u know the bible more than every other person that is not doing what u are doing... iTK

Help u call out these madness? Isn't that what atheists have been doing in this forum?

frank317:


I guess u know the bible more than every other person that is not doing what u are doing... iTK

Help u call out these madness? Isn't that what atheists have been doing in this forum?

it is madness. go read your bible to find out. if you don't study, u will never realize

Psalms 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

frank317:


I guess u know the bible more than every other person that is not doing what u are doing... iTK

Help u call out these madness? Isn't that what atheists have been doing in this forum?

What are you talking about ABOUT KNOWING THE BIBLE OR NOT?

Isn't that madness that folks be speaking in tongues IN A WORSHIP GATHERING AND NOT IN THEIR PRIVACY? Where is speaking in tongues permitted IN THE PUBLIC WITHOUT INTERPRETATION?

Goshen360:


What are you talking about ABOUT KNOWING THE BIBLE OR NOT?

Isn't that madness that folks be speaking in tongues IN A WORSHIP GATHERING AND NOT IN THEIR PRIVACY? Where is speaking in tongues permitted IN THE PUBLIC WITHOUT INTERPRETATION?

Are they passing message across as they're speaking in tongues for it to require interpretation?

Goshen360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxIe3-Hl6g

Don't this people STUDY their Bible? Are these pastors not supposed to know better? What's this nonsense and craziness going on and folks following like they blind? Somebody help us call these madness out!

What is the madness here? Your response is a sign that you are not a believer.

Emusan:


Are they passing message across as they're speaking in tongues for it to require interpretation?

They don't have to pass message accross in order to require interpretation. When we gather in a place of worship, prayer tongues WHICH NO MAN UNDERSTANDS should NOT BE PRACTICED unless there is one with gift of interpretation. This is clear from scripture and this certainly is NOT THE SIGN TONGUE WHICH EVERY ONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IN THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

TruthinAction:


What is the madness here? Your response is a sign that you are not a believer.

You that is a believer, which don't you show us or tell us from scripture where Christians are to GATHER IN A PLACE OF WORSHIP and PRAY IN TONGUES WITHOUT INTERPRETATION.

Why is little things like this so hard for us CHRISTIANS to understand? That's why we're still where we are as a country, we just don't understand basics but we want to move to greater things. Understand basics first!

Goshen360:


What are you talking about ABOUT KNOWING THE BIBLE OR NOT?

Isn't that madness that folks be speaking in tongues IN A WORSHIP GATHERING AND NOT IN THEIR PRIVACY? Where is speaking in tongues permitted IN THE PUBLIC WITHOUT INTERPRETATION?

that's if he is actually speaking in true tongues as the apostles did. what he was doing was pure mumbo jumbo, quite unbelievable that in this day and age people are still deceived with such pure nonsense.

EMILO2STAY:

that's if he is actually speaking in true tongues as the apostles did. what he was doing was pure mumbo jumbo, quite unbelievable that in this day and age people are still deceived with such pure nonsense.

Mumbo jumbo or sensationalism.....more like a man just carrassing a woman without actually impregnating her.... . The woman like the church people in that video go back the way she came....

Goshen360:


You that is a believer, which don't you show us or tell us from scripture where Christians are to GATHER IN A PLACE OF WORSHIP and PRAY IN TONGUES WITHOUT INTERPRETATION.

Why is little things like this so hard for us CHRISTIANS to understand? That's why we're still where we are as a country, we just don't understand basics but we want to move to greater things. Understand basics first!

You are telling me the congregation is not learning anything and they keep coming back? Sometimes, the moment of praying in tongues while on the pulpit is a time of stirring oneself up. If he just spoke in tongues and never delivered any message in understanding, then we can question his actions. Please, let's discuss more important issues.

TruthinAction:


You are telling me the congregation is not learning anything and they keep coming back? Sometimes, the moment of praying in tongues while on the pulpit is a time of stirring oneself up. If he just spoke in tongues and never delivered any message in understanding, then we can question his actions. Please, let's discuss more important issues.

My brother, the things that are written is what we go by not that we're trying to write our own Bible again....the scripture says, if you are to speak in tongues in praying to God that NO MAN UNDERSTANDS, YOU SHOULD DO THAT IN PRIVACY IF YOU CAN'T INTERPRET NOT DOING SO IN A WORSHIP GATHERING.

It's as simple as that....so when you prophesy ( unveiling the mind of God) you do so in human understanding.

Goshen360:
h t t ps://youtu.be/bSxIe3-Hl6g

Don't this people STUDY their Bible? Are these pastors not supposed to know better? What's this nonsense and craziness going on and folks following like they blind? Somebody help us call these madness out!

It is only some, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somebody, looking for lesser praying effort, that believes that speaking in tongues, especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language. This is shameless lazy and cutting corners manoeuvres praying things.

There is every legitimate reason to type that this is fake because the way this speaking in tongues is being done today, just as with other church folks and 21st century believers, is uttering unintelligible words that is bable and confused noise made by a number of different and varying voice pitches. This is not speaking in tongues (i.e. not speaking in a foreign language) but is mere babbling by unintelligible utterraces

It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs. And how do frogs catch their prey? Yes, by using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception

To speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way

Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language) and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue.

Importantly also, there is nothing like speaking in angelic or angel's tongue or heavenly language. It is from nonsense like this that the heresy about angels impregnating human beings come about and people believe the trash

EMILO2STAY:
that's if he is actually speaking in true tongues as the apostles did. what he was doing was pure mumbo jumbo, quite unbelievable that in this day and age people are still deceived with such pure nonsense.

Thank you my dear very good brother for this undiluted truthful words

TruthinAction:
You are telling me the congregation is not learning anything and they keep coming back? Sometimes, the moment of praying in tongues while on the pulpit is a time of stirring oneself up. If he just spoke in tongues and never delivered any message in understanding, then we can question his actions. Please, let's discuss more important issues.

We all, have spoken this feigned glossa, sometimes referred to as "ecstatic utterances", that is confused with, the real glossa, which is the biblical "gift of tongues". The real glossa and this man-made and fake other glossa, are like chalk and cheese, they are completely different from each other.

Not many, including you TruthinAction, know that, speaking in tongues, actually, in a way that suggests or resembles a miracle, is speaking in another ACTUAL HUMAN languages, that one couldn't speak before.

Also most importantly, are you aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues? He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter, but this advice and guideline, is religiously, reguarly and openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions like as seen in this instance

Goshen360:
My brother, the things that are written is what we go by not that we're trying to write our own Bible again....the scripture says, if you are to speak in tongues in praying to God that NO MAN UNDERSTANDS, YOU SHOULD DO THAT IN PRIVACY IF YOU CAN'T INTERPRET NOT DOING SO IN A WORSHIP GATHERING.

My brother, if you are 110% sure of what you know and are saying with this, then please put forward the bible verse you are quoting from for this and lets together carefully and thoroughly review it

Goshen360:
It's as simple as that....so when you prophesy (unveiling the mind of God) you do so in human understanding.

¹³Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.
¹⁴For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
¹⁵What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
¹⁶Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
¹⁷For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.
- 1 Corinthians 14:13–17

"So then, tongues are for a sign, not to those believing, but to the unbelieving;
but prophecy is not to the unbelieving, but to the believing."
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

Lets get this straight.
I hope you're not saying that from your understanding, praying in the Holy Ghost equates to praying or speaking in tongues, hmm?
Or contrary to what 1 Corinthians 14:22 says, you're saying that it is OK to speak to yourself in a tongue you dont understand, so far its done in private?

OK let's make this easier to think about. Can you hear your thoughts inside your head?
Neither can the devil hear your thoughts in your head or what you say in your mind
So isnt it clear now that, we give the devil unnecessary credit, thinking we are circumventing and finding a way around the devil to God.
Just foolery and shenanigans of the highest order abound.

Goshen360:


My brother, the things that are written is what we go by not that we're trying to write our own Bible again....the scripture says, if you are to speak in tongues in praying to God that NO MAN UNDERSTANDS, YOU SHOULD DO THAT IN PRIVACY IF YOU CAN'T INTERPRET NOT DOING SO IN A WORSHIP GATHERING.

It's as simple as that....so when you prophesy ( unveiling the mind of God) you do so in human understanding.

If you are not initiated into the kingdom of God, you will not understand. Are you born again? Do you speak in tongues? Apostle Paul only tried to check the excesses of the early believers in the manner and way they spoke in tongues. What the man of God did happens in virtually every Holy Spirit filled churches. At that point, he was nothing talking to the congregation but addressing an issue in the realm of the spirit and the members understood.

TruthinAction:
If you are not initiated into the kingdom of God, you will not understand. Are you born again? Do you speak in tongues? Apostle Paul only tried to check the excesses of the early believers in the manner and way they spoke in tongues. What the man of God did happens in virtually every Holy Spirit filled churches. At that point, he was nothing talking to the congregation but addressing an issue in the realm of the spirit and the members understood.

1/ Why should he speak in tongues?
2/ For what purpose and to which end should he want and/or need to speak in tongue(s)?
3/ Explain what brought about the circumstance that made Apostle Paul try to check the excesses of the early believers in the manner and way they spoke in tongues.
4/ Are you saying that because it happens in virtually every Holy Spirit filled churches, then it is biblically right, correct and true?
5/ Explain how mean "... he was nothing talking to the congregation but addressing an issue in the realm of the spirit "

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Why should he speak in tongues?
2/ For what purpose and to which end should he want and/or need to speak in tongue(s)?
3/ Explain what brought about the circumstance that made Apostle Paul try to check the excesses of the early believers in the manner and way they spoke in tongues.
4/ Are you saying that because it happens in virtually every Holy Spirit filled churches, then it is biblically right, correct and true?
5/ Explain how mean "... he was nothing talking to the congregation but addressing an issue in the realm of the spirit "

Even if I explain, you will not understand. The natural man does not receive the things of the spirit of God. First, give your life to Jesus. Second, receive the babtism of the Holy Spirit. Then I will explain to you.

MuttleyLaff:
It is only some, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somebody, looking for lesser praying effort, that believes that speaking in tongues, especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language. This is shameless lazy and cutting corners manoeuvres praying things.

There is every legitimate reason to type that this is fake because the way this speaking in tongues is being done today, just as with other church folks and 21st century believers, is uttering unintelligible words that is bable and confused noise made by a number of different and varying voice pitches. This is not speaking in tongues (i.e. not speaking in a foreign language) but is mere babbling by unintelligible utterraces

It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs. And how do frogs catch their prey? Yes, by using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception

To speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way

Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language) and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue.

Importantly also, there is nothing like speaking in angelic or angel's tongue or heavenly language. It is from nonsense like this that the heresy about angels impregnating human beings come about and people believe the trash

Thank you my dear very good brother for this undiluted truthful words

We all, have spoken this feigned glossa, sometimes referred to as "ecstatic utterances", that is confused with, the real glossa, which is the biblical "gift of tongues". The real glossa and this man-made and fake other glossa, are like chalk and cheese, they are completely different from each other.

Not many, including you TruthinAction, know that, speaking in tongues, actually, in a way that suggests or resembles a miracle, is speaking in another ACTUAL HUMAN languages, that one couldn't speak before.

Also most importantly, are you aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues? He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter, but this advice and guideline, is religiously, reguarly and openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions like as seen in this instance

My brother, if you are 110% sure of what you know and are saying with this, then please put forward the bible verse you are quoting from for this and lets together carefully and thoroughly review it

¹³Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.
¹⁴For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
¹⁵What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
¹⁶Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
¹⁷For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.
- 1 Corinthians 14:13–17

"So then, tongues are for a sign, not to those believing, but to the unbelieving;
but prophecy is not to the unbelieving, but to the believing."
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

Lets get this straight.
I hope you're not saying that from your understanding, praying in the Holy Ghost equates to praying or speaking in tongues, hmm?
Or contrary to what 1 Corinthians 14:22 says, you're saying that it is OK to speak to yourself in a tongue you dont understand, so far its done in private?

OK let's make this easier to think about. Can you hear your thoughts inside your head?
Neither can the devil hear your thoughts in your head or what you say in your mind
So isnt it clear now that, we give the devil unnecessary credit, thinking we are circumventing and finding a way around the devil to God.
Just foolery and shenanigans of the highest order abound.

the thing is they claim their speaking in tongues by babbling unintelligible jargon is heavenly language that Satan does not understand but forget the Satan himself came from heaven and also knows the language of heaven.

TruthinAction:
Even if I explain, you will not understand

You that doesn't know how to tie his shoe lace and/or knot a tie, wants to explain? Pftt.

TruthinAction:
The natural man does not receive the things of the spirit of God. First, give your life to Jesus. Second, receive the babtism of the Holy Spirit. Then I will explain to you.

Please tell what is all the evidences of baptism of the Holy Spirit?

It is people like you that permits others to give the faith a bad look SMH.

Goshen360:


They don't have to pass message accross in order to require interpretation. When we gather in a place of worship, prayer tongues WHICH NO MAN UNDERSTANDS should NOT BE PRACTICED unless there is one with gift of interpretation. This is clear from scripture and this certainly is NOT THE SIGN TONGUE WHICH EVERY ONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IN THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

I am not a christian but I challenge the notion that what one man wrote cannot be overridden by another. Paul is a man like Enenche, if Enenche wants to speak in tongues in public I think its his prerogative, Paul's ancient letter is a guide not a legal document.

EMILO2STAY:
the thing is they claim their speaking in tongues by babbling unintelligible jargon is heavenly language that Satan does not understand but forget the Satan himself came from heaven and also knows the language of heaven.

Its just a catalogue of delusions, ignorance and laziness to properly pray.

There even isn't anything like heavenly language and if there is, which obviously isn't, well there you are, Satan will know about it and be on to what they are secretly and in codes are praying about, isn't it.

Like, I earlier mentioned, it is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14 happening that they arent aware of

LordReed:


I am not a christian but I challenge the notion that what one man wrote cannot be overridden by another. Paul is a man like Enenche, if Enenche wants to speak in tongues in public I think its his prerogative, Paul's ancient letter is a guide not a legal document.

Paul that does not for once talk about the virgin birth, which Is the basis for the foundation of Christianity?
Delusion and more delusion =more astounding rubbish.

LordReed:
I am not a christian but I challenge the notion that what one man wrote cannot be overridden by another. Paul is a man like Enenche, if Enenche wants to speak in tongues in public I think its his prerogative, Paul's ancient letter is a guide not a legal document.

It isnt even a matter of anyone overriding anything. This is sheer blatant fakery and deception of one of the highest order.

It is delusion and make believe uttering gibberish and nonsensical noise, altenating between varying high voice pitches. When people are lazy to articulate their prayers, they resort to this quick fix alternate method to pray. I wonder why Jesus never employed this method, if it was that potent

Op, Mind your business and face your life and don't delve into other people's lives and convictions.

MuttleyLaff:
It isnt even a matter of anyone overriding anything. This is sheer blatant fakery and deception of one of the highest order.

It is delusion and make believe uttering gibberish and nonsensical noise, altenating between varying high voice pitches. When people are lazy to articulate their prayers, they resort to this quick fix alternate method to pray. I wonder why Jesus never employed this method, if it was that potent

Yeah well when you believe in a talking donkey and snake what is speaking gibberish?

Dantedasz:


Paul that does not for once talk about the virgin birth, which Is the basis for the foundation of Christianity?
Delusion and more delusion =more astounding rubbish.

You know I never really considered that. Interesting. Bible aka my book of amazing tall tales. LoLz

Goshen360:


They don't have to pass message accross in order to require interpretation. When we gather in a place of worship, prayer tongues WHICH NO MAN UNDERSTANDS should NOT BE PRACTICED unless there is one with gift of interpretation. This is clear from scripture and this certainly is NOT THE SIGN TONGUE WHICH EVERY ONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IN THE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

Who interpreted for the apostles in Acts?

EMILO2STAY:
the thing is they claim their speaking in tongues by babbling unintelligible jargon is heavenly language that Satan does not understand but forget the Satan himself came from heaven and also knows the language of heaven.

If you know the many benefits of speaking in tongues, you won't talk this way. I pray that you will understand one day.

CodeTemplar:
Who interpreted for the apostles in Acts?

None because the tongue or language they spoke was a SIGN TONGUE.....They spoke in the other men language and others heard and understood what they were saying.

That's different from the prayer tongue or language to God which Paul taught in 1 Cor. 14.

What Enechie and the rest doing is pure madness because when you pray in tongues no man can understand but your spirit communicate with God, you are to do that in your privacy not in public....

InansBobo:
Op, Mind your business and face your life and don't delve into other people's lives and convictions.

What conviction and business that's not a sound doctrine?

TruthinAction:


If you are not initiated into the kingdom of God, you will not understand. Are you born again? Do you speak in tongues? Apostle Paul only tried to check the excesses of the early believers in the manner and way they spoke in tongues. What the man of God did happens in virtually every Holy Spirit filled churches. At that point, he was nothing talking to the congregation but addressing an issue in the realm of the spirit and the members understood.

I should be asking you if you're new here on this forum....?

MuttleyLaff:
It isnt even a matter of anyone overriding anything. This is sheer blatant fakery and deception of one of the highest order.

It is delusion and make believe uttering gibberish and nonsensical noise, altenating between varying high voice pitches. When people are lazy to articulate their prayers, they resort to this quick fix alternate method to pray. I wonder why Jesus never employed this method, if it was that potent

that tongue of power has transmitted the power of God to heal and insanity, death etc have been arrested. It's needless to argue with you though but u must not believe. It's for they that believe in God's power.