I have heard so many argue that this universe, this world is quite flawed mostly due to the existence of things we may philosophically refer to as Natural evils. Famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and what not.

Even though personally i think things we refer to as evil are necessary - Topic for another day.

I'd like to experiment on this a bit, create a hypothetical universe.

Assume you are in the position of an All-powerful entity, you want to create a world, what type of world, what model of world do you imagine right now to be the ideal world?

Biscuit bones everywhere!

ABCthings:
Biscuit bones everywhere!

hahahahahahaha thats just wrong. lol

No world. Nothing cooler than not existing....

johnydon22:
I have heard so many argue that this universe, this world is quite flawed mostly due to the existence of things we may philosophically refer to as Natural evils. Famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and what not.

Even though personally i think things we refer to as evil are necessary - Topic for another day.

I'd like to experiment on this a bit, create a hypothetical universe.

Assume you are in the position of an All-powerful entity, you want to create a world, what type of world, what model of world do you imagine right now to be the ideal world?

A world where the major player(s) have and/or are of preferred, desired and/or approved character(s). This is where the world is getting to, after and is said and done, there no more be natural evils, famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and whatnot.

The end justifies the means of the necessary evil allowed for this greater good of a better world brought about, where the major player(s) have and/or are of preferred, desired and/or approved character(s). This model and/or type of a world, all along, is the position and vision, of the All-powerful entity, this is what the All-powerful entity is working on and bringing about

HappyPagan:
No world. Nothing cooler than not existing....

Hahahaha so literally it is impossible to make a better world than this?

johnydon22:
Hahahaha so literally it is impossible to make a better world than this?

It's like saying what's the highest number. Anything cool can be improved, will be improved, must be improved.

Stagnancy seems to hurt the human mind, at least curious ones.


Anyways, beyond the philosophical, a good world will have winged humans. Imagine the possibilities... FLUBBER - Fly without wings.
Neckpains from watching too many aerial fights.. Evolution would probably sort that by giving us some extra shoulder or some weird shit.

No dwarfs in my world, too. I feel so guilty around them, like I owe them height or something.
Got high once with a midget, and couldn't even make a high joke.

And lots of fries, weed , cotton candy, soda.. An no negative side-effects from indulgence...

And lots of sexy ladies.



Ideal for me.... Others might disagree too.. Or call me vain.... I run on veins...

World without religion.

A world infinite second chance...



Hmmmmm a new novel loading in my crazy mind.

HappyPagan:

It's like saying what's the highest number. Anything cool can be improved, will be improved, must be improved.

Stagnancy seems to hurt the human mind, at least curious ones.


Anyways, beyond the philosophical, a good world will have winged humans. Imagine the possibilities... FLUBBER - Fly without wings.
Neckpains from watching too many aerial fights.. Evolution would probably sort that by giving us some extra shoulder or some weird shit.

No dwarfs in my world, too. I feel so guilty around them, like I owe them height or something.
Got high once with a midget, and couldn't even make a high joke.

And lots of fries, weed , cotton candy, soda.. An no negative side-effects from indulgence...

And lots of sexy ladies.



Ideal for me.... Others might disagree too.. Or call me vain.... I run on veins...

This world actually exist. You are headed there when you leave here.

Shepherd00:

This world actually exist. You are headed there when you leave here.

A world in which you do not exist would be a better world.

This thread too.

HappyPagan:

A world in which you do not exist would be a better world.

This thread too.

Yeah, I will not exist where you are headed. But for this thread sorry, this is not your shrine.

Shepherd00:

Yeah, I will not exist where you are headed. But for this thread sorry, this is not your shrine.

I know sheeple don't use brains, so I will try to break it down a little.

The thread will be better without you. Your presence makes it bad. That doesn't mean you should leave.

You can stay. Pigs do enjoy their smell.

Btw, all are welcome to my shrine. It's a happy place. No crying or singing slave songs. It's a really simple place to live in. You're always welcome.

Shepherd00:

This world actually exist. You are headed there when you leave here.

Also, adding you to the Morons2Ignore List, right behind felixomor and the other buterflyfellow.

Cos I'm chill like that.

HappyPagan:

Also, adding you to the Morons2Ignore List, right behind felixomor and the other buterflyfellow.

Cos I'm chill like that.

The ediort is back!

https://www.nairaland.com/3449468/4-reasons-why-atheists-create

I kind of like the world as it is myself. I think its just about the best possible world one can get unless one wanted it flat. But then, where would you put the oceans, the mountains, Venus, Mars and the Sun? It would be odd if earth were flat as paper, and most likely wouldn't work.

The people though, I'd change. My ideal world is a world that's full of people who use their brains. School would have to be good, of course, with lessons that educate the mind and not indoctrination. If people use their brains, this world would be full of smart people and very close to my ideal.

The world has never remained the same. It keeps changing. An ideal world would be one without pains. Our ever dynamic world can change to such kind of world by the time science discovers what can remove the feeling of pains from every organism in it.

budaatum:
I kind of like the world as it is myself. I think its just about the best possible world one can get unless one wanted it flat. But then, where would you put the oceans, the mountains, Venus, Mars and the Sun? It would be odd if earth were flat as paper, and most likely wouldn't work.

The people though, I'd change. My ideal world is a world that's full of people who use their brains. School would have to be good, of course, with lessons that educate the mind and not indoctrination. If people use their brains, this world would be full of smart people and very close to my ideal.

When i say Ideal i don't mean man made things like schools etc.

I'm mostly referring to natural factors as implied, you as the omniscient being would set as a default state

finalboss:
World without religion.

How would a world without religion be better?

And religion is quite man-made doesn't sound like a natural evil, or is it?

OtemAtum:
The world has never remained the same. It keeps changing

This is correct and it is so because that is how character is formed. Exposure to changing elements

Imagine a world without character, it all be meaningless, drab and mundane.

OtemAtum:
An ideal world would be one without pains. Our ever dynamic world can change to such kind of world by the time science discovers what can remove the feeling of pains from every organism in it.

A world where the major player(s) have and/or are of, preferred, desired and/or approved character(s). This is where the ideal world is getting to, after all is said and done, there will no more be pains, natural evils, famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and whatnot.

The end justifies the means of the necessary evil allowed for this greater good of a better world brought about, where the major player(s) have and/or are of preferred, desired and/or approved character(s). This model and/or type of a world, all along, is the position and vision, of the All-powerful entity, this is what the All-powerful entity is working on and bringing about

johnydon22:
I have heard so many argue that this universe, this world is quite flawed mostly due to the existence of things we may philosophically refer to as Natural evils. Famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and what not.

Even though personally i think things we refer to as evil are necessary - Topic for another day.

I'd like to experiment on this a bit, create a hypothetical universe.

Assume you are in the position of an All-powerful entity, you want to create a world, what type of world, what model of world do you imagine right now to be the ideal world?

The ideal world is the one ruled by the God of Thunder, YES!

And YES He is back!

Revelation 2:27
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

johnydon22:
When i say Ideal i don't mean man made things like schools etc.

I'm mostly referring to natural factors as implied, you as the omniscient being would set as a default state

My concern would not be the natural factors since I've created living things imbued with an ability to "be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth".

If my being was Yahwehlike, I'd just send them a better teacher, most likely my own self taught son and other teachers, to teach them to do it better, except, done that already. If only I had more than one son, I'd likely send him now, though I'd prefer if she were a daughter so she can be called my only begotten and teach science (except, already done that too!).

budaatum:

My concern would not be the natural factors since I've created living things imbued with an ability to "be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth".

So, the world we live in now is already as good as it can get?

MrPresident1:


The ideal world is the one ruled by the God of Thunder, YES!

And YES He is back!

Revelation 2:27
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

I hear you bro ?, i hear you

OtemAtum:
The world has never remained the same. It keeps changing. An ideal world would be one without pains. Our ever dynamic world can change to such kind of world by the time science discovers what can remove the feeling of pains from every organism in it.

Without pain, joy's value drops.

HappyPagan:


Without pain, joy's value drops.

Exactly, thank you. LordReed i believe you and i have once argued over this. Where i argued negative things are absolutely necessary for purpose and meaning.

frank317:
A world infinite second chance...



Hmmmmm a new novel loading in my crazy mind.

What does it mean?

Because a world of infinite second chances sounds like a world with eternal life.

You can't get infinite second chances if you don't have infinite life

johnydon22:
Exactly, thank you. LordReed i believe you and i have once argued over this. Where i argued negative things are absolutely necessary for purpose and meaning.

And I told you that you were arguing for a world of absolutes which is essentially dead. My conception does not arrive at an absolute end to emotion, desire or appetite.

johnydon22:
I have heard so many argue that this universe, this world is quite flawed mostly due to the existence of things we may philosophically refer to as Natural evils. Famine, hunger, diseases, dangerous animals, natural disasters, death and what not.

Even though personally i think things we refer to as evil are necessary - Topic for another day.

I'd like to experiment on this a bit, create a hypothetical universe.

Assume you are in the position of an All-powerful entity, you want to create a world, what type of world, what model of world do you imagine right now to be the ideal world?

One in which potential is limited to those things which can only bring forth "pleasant emotions". Not always euphoria but always pleasant no matter how mildly.

LordReed:


And I told you that you were arguing for a world of absolutes which is essentially dead. My conception does not arrive at an absolute end to emotion, desire or appetite.

Uuuuhm, i am arguing that a world with pain, suffering, desire is necessary. A world without these is meaningless.

You objected.

johnydon22:


Uuuuhm, i am arguing that a world with pain, suffering, desire is necessary. A world without these is meaningless.

You objected.

I objected to a world of absolutes. I conceive of a world where there is no pain and suffering but not in the absolute sense ie such a world will still have you recoil if your bare foot felt fire while in yours it would not.

HappyPagan:

Also, adding you to the Morons2Ignore List, right behind felixomor and the other buterflyfellow.

Cos I'm chill like that.

Why am I not surprised?