Sarcasticmofo:
I would get a bank statement of more than $12000 from my uncle for VISA interview and hope to get about $4000 from my parents when traveling.

GboyegaD:


Hmmm.....my brother, I have seen people who were denied based on loan to these schools you mention. A partial scholarship is way better than a loan from these schools particularly, if you tell the VO of your plan to come back and get some great careers etc. One thing I know for sure though is that if you work hard to get into such programs, you will get good funding if you are need based.

bracelum:


I still stand on my point of view. And yes, I know what I'm talking about.

GboyegaD:


We all can only talk based on what we know, right? Thus, I for one will advice anyone aiming for such schools to ensure they have good profiles that will give them better scholarship opportunities. That is me, anyways.

bracelum:


I still stand on my point of view. And yes, I know what I'm talking about.

shoyoyebiodun:
@bracelum I sent you please can we talk

bracelum:


bracelum@gmail.com

AgreatMan:


Try MSc programs. PhD is only something u apply for AFTER a Prof. gives u a PERSONAL green light. Except u hv something special.

I use the word personal because some greenlights are generic.

U r probably competing with people who have one or more MSc, n u don't also have publications which would have given u a front seat.

bracelum:


Yeah, and I still stand on my point of view though!

I'm talking based on the experiences of people I've seen. A lot of people I know that were offered loans by those bschools and were scared (just like you) to include it on their i20s were placed on administrative processing.

As I said, as long as you carry an i20 with financial aid (whether scholarships, fellowships, loans, assistanstships or anything) for a top 15 bschool, your visa is almost guaranteed. As long as you show that the financial aid is coming from your school, it is almost guaranteed.

GboyegaD:


I do not understand how you came to the conclusion that I am scared because nothing of such was said nor inferred besides, I am not in a position to make decision for individuals and can only state positions based on the experience of the few I know and what I have read in most cases. Besides, if one can get a scholarship/fellowship which increases one's chances of success, why not go for it?

bracelum:


No need overflogging this stuff

Time2win:


In as much as top school admit makes visa easy. There is nothing like 100% guranteed. Have read on quora where a consular officer said he has once denied someone with Harvard admit visa just cos he overheard the dad bragging. When harvard called, the consular officer explained and that was it, the guy never got the visa. It's case by case but nothing is guaranteed.

bracelum:


He was denied because his father bragged - not because he was not seen as a genuine student or otherwise. That tells you that it happens in rare cases.

His university called - that further confirms what we were trying to tell fairheart yesterday.

Again, I never mentioned 100% guaranteed - I said it is almost guaranteed (95-97%). The remaining 3-5% is for rare cases like the one you just mentioned or for people that failed to use the vast resources at their disposal.

And please, I don't want to talk about this topic again.

Thanks

Sarcasticmofo:
Please who is studying in little rock Arkansas here or who knows someone studying in little rock arkansas?

temiie:
I was admitted to Drexel University for their bs/ms accelerated program with a scholarship of 28,000 dollars and the school fees is 68,000 dollars. I want to ask if it is worth it to collect a loan of 40,000 dollars and try to increase my scholarship for my 2nd year when I enroll.

temiie:
I was admitted to Drexel University for their bs/ms accelerated program with a scholarship of 28,000 dollars and the school fees is 68,000 dollars. I want to ask if it is worth it to collect a loan of 40,000 dollars and try to increase my scholarship for my 2nd year when I enroll.

sillysassysally:
I came across this post on LinkedIn and I thought to share. This is targeted at prospective MBA candidates or MS candidates in business school courses like finance or analytics.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6516042331622379520/
This guy went to Stanford for his MBA (#1 MBA program in the world)... He’s still looking for a job. Read the comments and you’ll see many others (even with STEM MS) still job searching.

Lots of people make it seem like the hustle ends once you’re able to get into a top program. No. That’s when it actually begins because getting into a top program doesn't guarantee you a job upon graduation. According to the Stanford guy “there’s a significant a gap between leads -> interest -> offer”. You’ll still have to work your ass off to secure a job. The best your degree does for you to give you access to networks, job postings, interviews, and whatnot, but It’s your responsibility to convert these accesses to a job.

If you’re going to be using loans to finance your degree, it's even more tricky because you really need a job to pay off the loans... but then, getting the job isn't even certain... What then can you do?

Make sure you have a strategy.

1. Don’t only focus on building a profile that’ll get you into a top school. Focus on building a profile that’ll land you your dream job after getting into you into a top school. You’d do yourself a lot of good if you can get relevant and recognizable working experience before going for your program (even if it’s a pre-experience program). Multinational experiences count well too.

2. Have a plan for your loans. Don’t over-leverage yourself because anything can happen. The only certain thing in life is uncertainty. I know of someone that planned on using loans to finance her MS in finance degree but upon arriving campus, she got a TA-ship role and was able to cancel her loan agreement (You actually have a window to reject any loan agreement – depends on the terms of the loan provider).

3. You may decide to take a non-conventional route to get your MBA. You could go for a Canadian PA (which is relatively easy to get), work for 3 years, earn good $ and then go for your US MBA (you may not even need the loans at this point). Then after your MBA, you're not stranded because you have Canadian papers...

"We see better when we stand on the shoulders of those that have gone ahead of us"

temiie:
I was admitted to Drexel University for their bs/ms accelerated program with a scholarship of 28,000 dollars and the school fees is 68,000 dollars. I want to ask if it is worth it to collect a loan of 40,000 dollars and try to increase my scholarship for my 2nd year when I enroll.

bracelum:


I saw this post the day the guy posted it.

He missed one of the two factors I listed yesterday - he doesn't have the right profile for an MBA-level job.

I always advise people against applying directly to MBA degrees when they have no significant work experience.

So, he doesn't have strong work experience to apply for MBA-level roles.

That doesn't change the fact that his class had an average compensation >$200K after their degree

One or (a few) bad scenarios out of 450 students is not bad for a school like Stanford.

So, don't get so anxious about this and use it to justify complacency.

Also, MBAs are not as hyped in Canada or Europe as they are hyped in the US. So, the ROI from a US MBA in the Canadian labor market is very low. I would rather encourage the person to get a Canadian MBA if he/she wants to remain in the Canadian market. The MBA is not even needed cos Canada is not a country that hypes that degree.

fcnaxo:
tbh 40,000 loan is a HUGE COMMITMENT! Even US citizens are usually indebted till thier demise due to student loans. Think about it deeply sir.

4gunners:
I know someone there.

sillysassysally:
It is up to you to decide if it is worth it...You need to genuinely justify the cost to yourself;

Here are some questions you may want to ask yourself;
1. Is the program STEM
2. What's the placement/employment prospect of the program like
3. What's the ratio of the loan to your current earnings
4. What do you want to achieve post-program
5. What stage are you in your career

With that said, I would encourage you to ask for more scholarship money before you accept the admission offer. Send a compelling email to the program director and create your case. This has worked for almost everyone I know that did it (Myself inclusive)

temiie:
I was admitted to Drexel University for their bs/ms accelerated program with a scholarship of 28,000 dollars and the school fees is 68,000 dollars. I want to ask if it is worth it to collect a loan of 40,000 dollars and try to increase my scholarship for my 2nd year when I enroll.

bracelum:


What school?
How employer sponsorship works is that they will foot all your bills AND you will return to the company for a few years after your program.

If you can prove both conditions to the VO, you will be fine.

bracelum:


I saw this post the day the guy posted it.

He missed one of the two factors I listed yesterday - he doesn't have the right profile for an MBA-level job.

I always advise people against applying directly to MBA degrees when they have no significant work experience.

So, he doesn't have strong work experience to apply for MBA-level roles.

That doesn't change the fact that his class had an average compensation >$200K after their degree

One or (a few) bad scenarios out of 450 students is not bad for a school like Stanford.

So, don't get so anxious about this and use it to justify complacency.

Also, MBAs are not as hyped in Canada or Europe as they are hyped in the US. So, the ROI from a US MBA in the Canadian labor market is very low. I would rather encourage the person to get a Canadian MBA if he/she wants to remain in the Canadian market. The MBA is not even needed cos Canada is not a country that hypes that degree.

mhizposh:
Morning folks,i have a question that has been bothering me
How does North Carolina A&T University fund her Admitted Masters students?I have sent countless mail concerning Funding to my program Grad cord,all to no avail.

PS:I have fears going to the embassy with an I20 with no funding

D5000y:
I can understand, bro. I'm in the same shoe with Wichita State University after several emails and no response, I later got through to the Graduate Coordinator through a good samaritan at the Grad Sch. Maybe you could try that option too.

fcnaxo:
Reply ur mail we get talk