Empiree:
We talked about this yesterday, right.

But someone said they could have been people of Qatif, Saudi Arabia not Riyadh. Riyadh people don't have the ball.

Trottle:


Nice work here @ Egbon Empiree, Movado, Aadozia, Ladunal, YOUNGCONCEPT and All.


I never knew many of us were searching for the that Tirá thereafter I actually got it, it was the last on the shelf! This should be late last year in Ilorin.

Its really old, brown-papered and the calligraphy is of the highest standard (old styled) and most of us who learnt using the "normal" Arabic calligraphy will find it really hard to comprehend (I'm actually looking for someone who could help transcribe it to "simple" Arabic/English).

I took it to my Sheikh, when he started reading and explaining the first page to me, apparently contains the instruction, and some 10s upon tens of Rakat will be part of the preliminaries . Though he didn't go further with the explanations.

Unfortunately, I left it in Ilorin, and I'm presently in another state. I'll send for it and when I lay my hands on it, I'll take some shots for Oga Empiree to verify if its "Daawatul Jabbarriyah" or one of its contemporaries.


YOUNGCONCEPT, keep pushing on. I like your tenacity.

aadoiza:

Empiree once talked about how dreams are a means of receiving messages on this thread, but some guy asked, almost mischievously, "from whom?". He kind of ridiculed such notion. But I dey here dey laugh at the ignoramus.
I wlll share how a dream stopped my bro from making his biggest mistake.

movado19:

emekaRaj:


Am very very very here.... Just want learn from u ppl.

movado19:


Ah! Oga Trottle, thy sleuthing hath no match!
A very good job and hopefully, we get to share in the barakah of access and recitation to it too, Amin

movado19:
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This was my fear all along...reminds me of the ones my dad had (don't know what dua they were), very difficult to read and written on brown paper.
Empi.ree, please help Trottle confirm it is the dua Jabbariya and then transcribe it,to a readable format, inshaallah.

Trottle:

I'm humbled o.
The script is exactly as confirmed by Oga Empiree.
Ma Sha Allah! This is very good news.

I'll try to get a hold of it this weekend and send screenshots.
InshaAllah.

Thereafter, I'll try to snap them all serially and send to anyone interest for them to make copies.
InshaAllah.

I hope we can get someone who can transcribe it with good accuracy.
Empiree, we your students humbly request you take on this mantle of duty to enable us to partake of the blessings of this dua, please!

Trottle, you are very kind and may Allah bless you endlessly for this gesture, Amin

Empiree:

chai, waec puzzles all over again
Lol!

We will see.
I pray Allah grants you the means and ability to start and complete this noble task, InshaAllah.

emekaRaj:


Am very very very here.... Just want learn from u ppl.

Empiree:
I'm student too.. Learning here as well. Hummm this jabbariya brothers are talking about, let's understand that one thing is to get it first. This is first step from miles away.

Another thing are the conditions. I believe this is where services come to play. Another thing is being about to recite efficiently like the way we recite sura. Well, this may be ready actually with time.

Another thing entirely is to have time. I believe I posted screenshots narrative experience of friend of my sheikh. Very important to know this too but it is not a must. Greed has no place. The man is so greedy that he wanted to eat from the meat of his slaughtered ram or cow (he never slaughtered cow anyways). I am not saying it is Haram to eat from your sacrificial ram or cow but it slows things down a little. Meat is discributed to people and these people make Dua for you. This sacrifice and dua they make after you done with recitation of jabbariya, Yasin and its khutba is like a arrow shoot to the sky. It goes up and your status elevated

Trottle:


AMIN, and you too Boss.

Ah, me I'm a learner oh! Forever in the quest and service of knowledge.

aadoiza:

WOW!! WOW!!! WOW!!! emekaraj finally showed. Your stories have an inspiration. You can still drop some inputs occasionally. May Allah be with you in your struggles. Ameen

Trottle:


Nice work here @ Egbon Empiree, Movado, Aadozia, Ladunal, YOUNGCONCEPT and All.


I never knew many of us were searching for the that Tirá thereafter I actually got it, it was the last on the shelf! This should be late last year in Ilorin.

Its really old, brown-papered and the calligraphy is of the highest standard (old styled) and most of us who learnt using the "normal" Arabic calligraphy will find it really hard to comprehend (I'm actually looking for someone who could help transcribe it to "simple" Arabic/English).

I took it to my Sheikh, when he started reading and explaining the first page to me, apparently contains the instruction, and some 10s upon tens of Rakat will be part of the preliminaries . Though he didn't go further with the explanations.

Unfortunately, I left it in Ilorin, and I'm presently in another state. I'll send for it and when I lay my hands on it, I'll take some shots for Oga Empiree to verify if its "Daawatul Jabbarriyah" or one of its contemporaries.


YOUNGCONCEPT, keep pushing on. I like your tenacity.

aadoiza:
I've often wondered if those criticising those babas of old have the balls to do it to their faces. Can they really call these babas ignorant, kafirun, etc, just as one stupid jabata stooge has done on upteem times?

I'm not here to defend any baba or some of their practices; I'm not insinuating all of them were pious either. So I'm leaving everything to Allah SWT. However; I will base my opinion on them only on what I have seen or heard of them. Whatever anyone chooses to do behind closed doors is not my concern.

Na so one idiot many years ago, after having adopted a new ideology decided to bring it to knowledge of the whole neighbourhood by insulting an alfa agba. I was still very young so I can't say anything about his newly-found aqeedah then. We used to call the alfa agba "Father Xmas" because of his massive white beard, and everyone was scared of him. This guy went to front of this alfa's house and started shouting out: you ogboni man that call yourself alfa, you this, you that, blah blah blah... He went on and on and on. Then of a sudden his lower jaw shifted to one side and couldn't speak. (Awon rawaniyah must have slapped him.) Lmao!!! He quickly held up his hands in contrition and started begging the best he could. The alfa no even come out while all this was happening. It took the intervention of other babas and landlords for area wey come beg the alfa before his jaw was reconfigured to shape.

How many of these spineless balless e-rats could face these alfas, even if they were doing kufr, and tell'em off? Shior.

movado19:


How to recognise a Wali ( Friend Of Allah)
Bismillah
The method of recongnizing a Wali and a non Wali is to first rectify ones heart and mind and join his company. Thereafter, if you find that his company generates in your heart the thought and love of Allah Ta’Ala, then he is a Wali. On the contrary, if the heart indulges in wordly thoughts, then certainly he is not a Wali.
It is said: The heart is the mirror of another heart.
That is, whatever will be in his heart will reflect on your heart. So any non-virtuous image or thought will reflect and testify to his. It is recorded in ‘Ain al-Ma’ani that Awliya-Allah are that group whose company generates the remembrance of Allah Ta’Ala.
Imam Nawawi Radi Allahu anhu, and also Ibn Maja Radi Allahu anhu report that when Sayyadina Rasoolallah Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa Sallam was asked about the characteristics of the Awliya, he declared, “Allah is remembered when they are seen.”
One day, I asked my esteemed Murshid al-Kamil, Sayyid Ale’Rasul Ahmadi Radi Allahu anhu :”How can one estabblish whether a person is a Wali?”
He replied:”When a servant discards his qualities and existence and becomes lost in the Majestic Qualities and Divine Being of Almighty Allah, then for him only the Sublime Lord and His attributive Status exists.Everything esle in the universe,including himself,becomes non-existent.His love and attraction for the Sublime Lord reaches such a state that he breaks links with the entire Universe.When this happens,then one becomes a Wali of Allah Ta’Ala.If you find these qualities in a person,then regard him as a Wali,otherwise not”.


It is forbidden to accept a non-Wali(fake) as a Wali and reject a genuine Wali as not being a Wali. Such decisions are disrespectful and dangerous.
To mock or disregard a Prophet of Allah Almighty is certainly Kufr and rejecting a Wali makes one a Fasiq. But it is very difficult for the rejecter to safely die with Iman.There are numerous proof of this in the past and present times.

By Qutb al-Irshad Siraj al-Awliya Sayyid Abdul-Husain Ahmad al-Nuri al-Husaini al-Qadiri Barkati Merah’rawi Radi Allahu anhu.
It is of the utmost importance to be able to recognise a Kamil Wali.
When you come to know of a Kamil wali go and visit him with eagerness. Keep your intentions free from prejudice and do not go to scrutinise, to debate or endeavour to test him in any way.
Visit him with sincerity and sit respectfully when you arrive at his residence. Observe his character, manners and qualities from a religious viewpoint.
A genuine Kamil Wali should possess virtues such as those listed in the ?Genuine? column below and none of those, which are listed in the Impostor column

From:
https://seekerofthesacredknowledge./2011/08/16/how-to-recognise-a-wali-friend-of-allah/

ikupakuti:
@OP

One cannot see the rohaniyya, angels & other spirituals entities of higher realms in there true form without one being absorbed in there native sphere.

What a being of higher realm does is to switch to an agreeable form which comforms with a lower realm in order to access it.

Failure to do so which is pratically impossible anyways, (due to the 4 physical natural laws) would distablize a lower realm, due to the highly strong electro-magnectic feild that cloaks their persons.

Thats why in a certain hadith when the holy Prophet (s a w) requested from sayyidina jubreel (a s) to show him his real form he was created in, the later had to exit the realms of naasut & malakut alltogether before tranforming, occupying the whole horizon... which prompted the vs. Quran 81:23, 24

1. I understand sayyidina Jibril (a.s.) having to exit the real of Nasut.
2. I don't understand, however, why he would also have to exit the ream of Malakut?
Angels also reside in this real, not so? Or is it due to his angelic position (high rank) compared to other angels, so, therefore, more electromagnetic waves emanation from him, so also not safe for him to transform in that realm?
3. After transforming, he appeared and occupied the whole horizon...in what "agreeable" form did he transform into eventually to be able to occupy the horizon?

But dreamland falls into the realm of malakut (sphere of the rohaniyyun), seeing angels there is very possible since one will be utilizing one of the 5 spiritual senses that agrees to its nature.

As @empiree rightly pointed out, seeing real angelic being live on earth can only happen during the exit of ones ruh from the body & you know what that means.

When GOD sent sayyidina jubreel to nana maryam (quran 19:17) he had to appear in an agreeable human form.

The jinns we share the same realm with (though them being invisible due to their atomic config.) can be seen by humans with the right conditions.

aadoiza:
This land is getting dry

aadoiza:
This land is getting dry

movado19:


Hahaha! I swear
I guess everyone is waiting for Empir.ee to continue his narration.

Empiree:

Just got distracted by other interest contributions in this thread plus i do run errands back n forth. Will continue shortly but nothing really much.

Empiree:
^^

As for me, my sign is i feel happy and light. I just feel excited for absolutely no reason. And by the time I check on the reason behind my dua to begin with, it is exactly where I wanted or how i wanted Allah to answer it. But the most important is, i just feel excited for no reason at all. All other things fall into place. Sometimes, it is not answered directly but indirect. Therefore, i do pay close attention to details.

For instance two year agos, i had a debt to pay of ($40k) but balance remained 15k. I had 5 yrs to pay it off but this amounts to interest and fees which i wanted to avoid by any means necessary. So if i was to pay off in 5 yrs as scheduled, i would end up paying additional 10k total of $50k at the end of the loan in 5 yrs. Interestingly, the company that issued my loan offers 'promotion' in form of a question. You click and answer the question and it disappeared forever until they announce winner. Winner would have his loan paid off in full regardless of balance left on the loan.

It was just one question and that's it. Result is read once every October but you must register before October. So a month before result was read, i went to masjid not too far from me just to pray maghrib and 'accidentally' picked up a 'tira' with compilation of dua. It is only 3 sura in it but technically arranged. Sura Yasin, Mulk and Kahf. You are to recite sura yasin and stop at every mubin and say your niyah and also read small dua written in every mubin. So i did this overnight 3 weeks before result was read. When result came out, it is only 1 person they needed out of millions of people they loaned.

Wallahi i was not recognized at all. I accepted my fate but i had feelings that my dua was answered without any doubt bcus, as i said earlier, i always feel excited for no reason and i did after making this dua. After Oct 2017 passed, just a week or 2 in November, my insurance company issued me a check for $5k. I called them to ask what it is about?. They said it is my entitlement. I can't be more than happy. I quickly put this toward my 15k balance. Now i have 10 left. Then, one idiot who owed me money all these yrs that i didnt even talked to anymore for over 5yrs sent me a check enclosed with letter apologizing to me and saying how it was not his fault. That was $2k i added. Now i have 8k left. The new insurance company i just signed up with at the time said i have paid too much upfront and the execcess is due to me. This is $4k. Do the math. Also, back in 2008, there was class action lawsuit against a company that defrauded consumers including me. The case was the company versus the govt. Govt fought on our behalf in court and this check also came in round that time. Everything i am talking about happened simultaneously btw November and December 2017. So i received check in the mail for this which is 80% of my outstanding debt. and the remaining balance is peanut that i paid out of my pocket. I couldn't thank God enough bcus i was thinking of how to pay off this debt without accruing riba for 5 yrs. I raised this loan to buy shares. Now, bcus i was able to pay off this loan in a yr, i quickly sold back my shares to another bank for half of the original loan and make 50% back. This was good bcus if i had waited 5yrs, my shares would lose value and most likely would be sold for peanut by 2023. So i sold my shares in January 2018 and debt free.


So dont think prayers are in vain. We learned in hadith that Allah answers dua 3 ways:


He answers dua right away

or

Answers your dua by not giving you what you asked for but He(swt) shields you from danger


or

He holds your dua till the Day of Judgement to get full reward

Empiree:
^^

As for me, my sign is i feel happy and light. I just feel excited for absolutely no reason. And by the time I check on the reason behind my dua to begin with, it is exactly where I wanted or how i wanted Allah to answer it. But the most important is, i just feel excited for no reason at all. All other things fall into place. Sometimes, it is not answered directly but indirect. Therefore, i do pay close attention to details.

For instance two year agos, i had a debt to pay of ($40k) but balance remained 15k. I had 5 yrs to pay it off but this amounts to interest and fees which i wanted to avoid by any means necessary. So if i was to pay off in 5 yrs as scheduled, i would end up paying additional 10k total of $50k at the end of the loan in 5 yrs. Interestingly, the company that issued my loan offers 'promotion' in form of a question. You click and answer the question and it disappeared forever until they announce winner. Winner would have his loan paid off in full regardless of balance left on the loan.

It was just one question and that's it. Result is read once every October but you must register before October. So a month before result was read, i went to masjid not too far from me just to pray maghrib and 'accidentally' picked up a 'tira' with compilation of dua. It is only 3 sura in it but technically arranged. Sura Yasin, Mulk and Kahf. You are to recite sura yasin and stop at every mubin and say your niyah and also read small dua written in every mubin. So i did this overnight 3 weeks before result was read. When result came out, it is only 1 person they needed out of millions of people they loaned.

Wallahi i was not recognized at all. I accepted my fate but i had feelings that my dua was answered without any doubt bcus, as i said earlier, i always feel excited for no reason and i did after making this dua. After Oct 2017 passed, just a week or 2 in November, my insurance company issued me a check for $5k. I called them to ask what it is about?. They said it is my entitlement. I can't be more than happy. I quickly put this toward my 15k balance. Now i have 10 left. Then, one idiot who owed me money all these yrs that i didnt even talked to anymore for over 5yrs sent me a check enclosed with letter apologizing to me and saying how it was not his fault. That was $2k i added. Now i have 8k left. The new insurance company i just signed up with at the time said i have paid too much upfront and the execcess is due to me. This is $4k. Do the math. Also, back in 2008, there was class action lawsuit against a company that defrauded consumers including me. The case was the company versus the govt. Govt fought on our behalf in court and this check also came in round that time. Everything i am talking about happened simultaneously btw November and December 2017. So i received check in the mail for this which is 80% of my outstanding debt. and the remaining balance is peanut that i paid out of my pocket. I couldn't thank God enough bcus i was thinking of how to pay off this debt without accruing riba for 5 yrs. I raised this loan to buy shares. Now, bcus i was able to pay off this loan in a yr, i quickly sold back my shares to another bank for half of the original loan and make 50% back. This was good bcus if i had waited 5yrs, my shares would lose value and most likely would be sold for peanut by 2023. So i sold my shares in January 2018 and debt free.


So dont think prayers are in vain. We learned in hadith that Allah answers dua 3 ways:


He answers dua right away

or

Answers your dua by not giving you what you asked for but He(swt) shields you from danger


or

He holds your dua till the Day of Judgement to get full reward

Empiree:
^^

As for me, my sign is i feel happy and light. I just feel excited for absolutely no reason. And by the time I check on the reason behind my dua to begin with, it is exactly where I wanted or how i wanted Allah to answer it. But the most important is, i just feel excited for no reason at all. All other things fall into place. Sometimes, it is not answered directly but indirect. Therefore, i do pay close attention to details.

For instance two year ago, i had a debt to pay off ($40k) but balance remained 15k. I had 5 yrs to pay it off but this amounts to interest and fees which i wanted to avoid by any means necessary. So if i was to pay off in 5 yrs as scheduled, i would end up paying additional 10k total of $50k at the end of the loan in 5 yrs. Interestingly, the company that issued my loan offers 'promotion' in form of a question. You click and answer the question and it disappeared forever until they announce winner. Winner would have his loan paid off in full regardless of balance left on the loan.

It was just one question and that's it. Result is read once every October but you must register before October. So a month before result was read, i went to masjid not too far from me just to pray maghrib and 'accidentally' picked up a 'tira' with compilation of dua. It is only 3 sura in it but technically arranged. Sura Yasin, Mulk and Kahf. You are to recite sura yasin and stop at every mubin and say your niyah and also read small dua written in every mubin. So i did this overnight 3 weeks before result was read. When result came out, it is only 1 person they needed out of millions of people they loaned.

Wallahi i was not recognized at all. I accepted my fate but i had feelings that my dua was answered without any doubt bcus, as i said earlier, i always feel excited for no reason and i did after making this dua. After Oct 2017 passed, just a week or 2 in November, my insurance company issued me a check for $5k. I called them to ask what it is about?. They said it is my entitlement. I can't be more than happy. I quickly put this toward my 15k balance. Now i have 10 left. Then, one idiot who owed me money all these yrs that i didnt even talked to anymore for over 5yrs sent me a check enclosed with letter apologizing to me and saying how it was not his fault. That was $2k i added. Now i have 8k left. The new insurance company i just signed up with at the time said i have paid too much upfront and the execcess is due to me. This is $4k. Do the math. Also, back in 2008, there was class action lawsuit against a company that defrauded consumers including me. The case was the company versus the govt. Govt fought on our behalf in court and this check also came in round that time. Everything i am talking about happened simultaneously btw November and December 2017. So i received check in the mail for this which is 80% of my outstanding debt. and the remaining balance is peanut that i paid out of my pocket. I couldn't thank God enough bcus i was thinking of how to pay off this debt without accruing riba for 5 yrs. I raised this loan to buy shares. Now, bcus i was able to pay off this loan in a yr, i quickly sold back my shares to another bank for half of the original loan and make 50% back. This was good bcus if i had waited 5yrs, my shares would lose value and most likely would be sold for peanut by 2023. So i sold my shares in January 2018 and debt free.


So dont think prayers are in vain. We learned in hadith that Allah answers dua 3 ways:


He answers dua right away

or

Answers your dua by not giving you what you asked for but He(swt) shields you from danger


or

He holds your dua till the Day of Judgement to get full reward

movado19:


My brother, what of the one you were going to write about getting a message in dreams or so?