Robisky001:
Those that died before the coming of Christ will eventually make heaven only if they believe that he is the Christ the Son of the living God. For after his death, he went to the underworld to proclaim the good news to those under the clutches of Satan.

OpenYourEyes1:


I bet my moral argument brought out an atheist/pagan from hiding . I didn't see their contributions on this thread until I posted the truth.
The obligation to be righteous is mostly why Christianity scare them alot

alBHAGDADI:


Wrong.

Those whom you say didn't hear the gospel but live peacefully also worshiped idols. That's enough to doom them. Attaining Eternal life is by faith in God, nothing else, not by works.

alBHAGDADI:


Are there people who don't know that God exists today? No, only lying atheists. People of old also heard about the God of Israel.

AkpaMgbor:

Used to think you're genuinely propagating the good news but your utterances and understanding of the Bible shows that what you say is false.
You say some people are destined for destruction,
But Matthew chapter 18 verses 14 says " In the same way, it is not my heavenly Father’s will that even one of these little ones should perish. Correcting Another Believer"

And 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 9 said " The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance"

Bet9ja4444421:
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Robisky001:
Those that died before the coming of Christ will eventually make heaven only if they believe that he is the Christ the Son of the living God. For after his death, he went to the underworld to proclaim the good news to those under the clutches of Satan.

Robisky001:
Those that died before the coming of Christ will eventually make heaven only if they believe that he is the Christ the Son of the living God. For after his death, he went to the underworld to proclaim the good news to those under the clutches of Satan.

OBAGADAFFI:
Before recsuration , Believers go to a part of hades known as paradise (Luke 23:43) and Abraham's bosom (Luke 16:22), while unbelievers go to a place of torment (Luke 16:23). The word interpreted "hell" in the King James Version in Psalm 16:10 is actually "sheol," which is another term for hades—the temporary dwelling place of the dead.

calddon:

Some have estimated the total population throughout all human history at about 15,000,000,000 persons. The earth’s land area is more than 36,000,000,000 acres (15,000,000,000 ha). That would allow more than two acres (1 ha) per person. Not only would this provide space for food production but it would also allow for forests, mountains, and other scenic areas​—with no undue crowding

Robisky001:
Those that died before the coming of Christ will eventually make heaven only if they believe that he is the Christ the Son of the living God. For after his death, he went to the underworld to proclaim the good news to those under the clutches of Satan.

alBHAGDADI:

.Your choice of worship is wrong and it clearly twists scriptures to say Jesus was just an angel and not God. Yet you want me to believe you when you say no one is in heaven right now, even when Jesus said he goes to prepare a place for us. Keeping allowing GB to fool you.

alBHAGDADI:


Your tone of answers gives you away as a Jehovah's False Witness. Away from me Satan. Don't fill my head with the junk GB out inside yours.

I depend on the Holy Spirit, you depend on GB.

petrage:
I clearly disagree with U on this. Rom 2:14-16 made reference about a man's conscience that would be his rise or fall before God in eternity. Did U know our forefathers then in their seemingly ignorance saw their idols as intermediary to the the Almighty God in heaven. Scriptures relayed that this gospel must be preached across every nook and cranny of the earth before Christ returns so that none would claim to have an excuse of not hearing. Our Ancestors in that dispensation of conscience did not have d opportunity to hear the gospel and as such have a case before God. Rejecting the gospel when the opportunity was presented is at their detriment.

Offpoint:

Why the hell will I debunk heaven? common dude, that's why God lives... who the hell are you to live in the same planet with God?

Robisky001:
Those that died before the coming of Christ will eventually make heaven only if they believe that he is the Christ the Son of the living God. For after his death, he went to the underworld to proclaim the good news to those under the clutches of Satan.

NLModsAreStupud:
I'm His son.

Emu4life:
Christianity from the time of Paul is Paulinity. So many evidence from the bible shows that the basic message Jesus was passing is " Oh Isreal! worship one God, the Lord our God". But after Jesus demise, Paul brought so many doctrines which include; Beleiving in Original Sin, Crucifixion which never happened (In fact, he went to the extent of saying "if Jesus was not crucified, then our faith and doctrine is in vain "(1st Corinthians 15vs19)), worshipping of more than one God and other Roman idol worshipping.
The simple message all messengers of God have been passing is (Worship one God, the Lord our God)
But the Christians use the parts of the Bible they like and discards the remaining parts. All messengers of God preached one God and are indeed MUSLIMS.
IF YOU BELIEVE AND WORSHIP ONE GOD(THE CREATOR OF JESUS) AND ALL HIS MESSENGERS, YOU ARE SAVED.

solreb:

Are you a Christian?

alBHAGDADI:


Your tone of answers gives you away as a Jehovah's False Witness. Away from me Satan. Don't fill my head with the junk GB out inside yours.

I depend on the Holy Spirit, you depend on GB.

OkCornel:
The great white throne judgment makes it crystal clear how those who do not know Jesus would be judged (note, I did not say those that outrightly rejected Jesus). These set of people will be judged according to their works.

Let's go through Revelation 20;

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

OkCornel:
Based on the previous post... when I hear believers asking if your name is written in the book of life... I just laugh.

True believers are partakers of the first resurrection. It's now those who are saved by their works that would have their names in the book of life

alBHAGDADI:


This guy and his usually tactics of always jumping in at the tail end of my threads with lies. He'll get beaten as usual.

Here you are saying those who didn't know Jesus would be judged based on their works. Yes, you are right, but it doesn't mean the judgement is to see if their works can saved them and make them have eternal life with the saved. Remember, salvation is not by works.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Yet, this lying Okcornel says one's works can get one saved on judgement day. That is usual of him - always going against the word of God clearly stated in the Bible.

One thing he doesn't seem to understand about the Bible passage he quoted is that once your name was never written in the book of Life, you are doomed and whatever judgment you face is a judgment of condemnation. Your evil works will be brought to light, and since you never believed in Jesus, he won't save you on that day because he's the only saviour, not our works. That's why the last verse in the passage he quoted says all those whose name are not found in the book of Life are cast into the lake of fire which is the second death.

I already told you to get born again so you will understand scriptures, but you refused. Well, you'll only keep getting beaten by a child of God whose Father's words you are trying to twist.

alBHAGDADI:


According to you, Muslims and atheists who hate Jesus Christ will get eternal life as long as they did some good works. This means that billionaires like Bill Gates can earn eternal life by simply buying it through the good works they do with their foundations. In conclusion, what you just said is that Jesus is not the only way to eternal life.

Can you see how much of an heretic and a lying Antichrist you are?

You got exposed again. Rather, you got whooped again.

The great white throne judgment makes it crystal clear how those who do not know Jesus would be judged (note, I did not say those that outrightly rejected Jesus). These set of people will be judged according to their works.

alBHAGDADI:

Can you see how much of an heretic and a lying Antichrist you are?

OkCornel:


If you are not blind, my first post on this thread, I clearly said this;


Are you being deliberately stupid? Or you are just eager to tell lies and put words in my mouth?


You really do have an empty skull. You have no discernment at all... You are a shameless and desperate liar. I have put the scriptures up there. Go ahead and tell us Apostle John was telling lies