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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by OkunrinOloro: 3:29pm On Apr 26, 2019
Funny, because the same applies equally to YOU.


Amujale:


If you cannot name one invention that bears your name, the joke is on you.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 3:35pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkunrinOloro:
You're still wrong. NONE of those people would have succeeded were it not for the active connivance of Africans.

Even to this day the majority of trafficked human beings in the world are Blacks and the traffickers who are their fellow blacks use African voodoo to keep their victims under control and stop them from escaping.


From what you write here, i can easly deduce that you have been brainwashed into believing what they (The West) want you to believe.

But you and "The West" are both wrong.

According to African studies, simultaneously, Christianity, Islam and Judaism combined are the reason for how broken the world is today.

Africans are kind, generous, tboughtful, charming.

The West is ruthless, thoughtless, brutal, unkind e.t.c
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by OkunrinOloro: 3:41pm On Apr 26, 2019
Allowing one's self to be "brainwashed" by objective facts is a healthy part of intellectual honesty. You ought to try it sometimes.

But I noticed you were rather quiet on the issue I raised about the modern day trafficking of Africans by Africans using African voodoo.

Or are you afraid that confessing the truth will make you "brainwashed"?

Amujale:


From what you write here, i can easly deduce that you have been brainwashed into believing what they (The West) want you to believe.




Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Johncables402: 3:42pm On Apr 26, 2019
JaceBlaze:
Hard to pick,too many legends.As a South African I will have to go with Nelson Mandela for now,the man restored sanity in our nation and we will always love him for that.I believe an African American will feel the same about Martin Luther King,it's all about how you relate with these people and how they have impacted your life.

If Mandela was such a great black man he would have given each race the appropriate size of land , instead most of the land belongs to the minority whites while many blacks live in the fringes of society . I know residential land is more black than white, but what about the land that matters the most ? Agricultural ( You have been made to depend on your oppressors for food)? Is that sanity ?. I didn't know much about the land problems over there until I followed the debate between the Kenyans, the boer guy and lionessza6 , I thought she was playing victim mentality until I did my own research and realised that she actually had a point. Your inequality starts from the ownership of productive land , you cannot not have a bright future without owning the factors of production. Your banks require collateral which is mostly land with value before they give you a loan for a business expansion , how many blacks qualify for this ?. You can never play a meaningful role in your economy without land ownership my guy . I watched a documentary on why Chris chani was killed and it makes sense . The West tagged him divisive, that is because he wanted the land more than welfare that Mandela gave you people . Do you really believe that your boer friends would have opted for peace and unity if the people in slums looked like them ? Do you think they would be celebrating Mandela if the banks and mines belonged to all ( nationalised )? cheesy. They only supported the so called unity and peace because they got it all ; the institutions, banks , land and of course some of yalls love and loyalty lol. Your country is burning because of the mistakes of this man . I'm not saying he was a total disaster but he can't possible be a hero for black men , not when a black man still digs the dangerous mines without any hope of his sons ever owning a share . I'm not saying he should have taken everything from whites, but he shouldn't have given it all to them not when all the hard work for centuries has been done by the blacks . Without fixing the land issue , I do not see your country ever finding peace , you will always talk about the rainbow but the cries of the masses cannot be silenced forever . I smell another zim land grabbing case coming closer. With many videos from your country with whites tormenting poor black farmers and the many young blacks crying for land ...........1

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 3:49pm On Apr 26, 2019
Generically, Africans are kind, generous, tboughtful, charming e.t.c

Generically, "The West" is ruthless, thoughtless, brutal, unkind e.t.c
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 3:53pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkunrinOloro:
Allowing one's self to be "brainwashed" by objective facts is a healthy part of intellectual honesty. You ought to try it sometimes.

No, thank you . There is nothing good about "brainwashing".

In my opinion, replacing reality with fiction can never be a good thing.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Nobody: 4:01pm On Apr 26, 2019
babzo:


People will just open their mouth to talk rubbish. Oga, go and use your medicine abeg.
And you are Prince of what again? Prince of rats?

Answer the question...

What killed awolowo? Was it not kill and dry? Heard the otapiapia dried him so well that there was no need for embalmment!

Refute it and stop bothering who or what I am Prince of!
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 4:02pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkunrinOloro:
Funny, because the same applies equally to YOU.



No sir, it doesnt apply to me, because i acknowledge Lewis Latimer as a prolific inventor, whilst you do not.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 26, 2019
Noel1:


Yes, I also heard that Bill Gates too is from Ghana undecided

Google is ur friend
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 4:14pm On Apr 26, 2019
OkunrinOloro:

As for latimer, I stopped taking him seriously after I found out that his other notable invention apart from a light bulb filament is a mobile toilet.

Latimer's other notable invention apart from the light bulb filament techniques, is in all reality the humble "telephone" and not the derogatory claim of mobile toilet, so you can stop peddling those false and derogatory claims.
Thank you.

Lewis latimer co-invented the Light Bulb with Thomas Edison.

Lewis Latimer co-invented the telephone with Graham Bell.

Lewis Latimer is a reknowned engineer and prolific inventor that has his name engraved into the National Inventors Hall of Fame(www.invent.org).

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Youngsage: 4:14pm On Apr 26, 2019
obentenyson:
it's one thing to be popular, it's another to be influencial.. Ali is influencial but not as most thinks.. He is the most influential person in the world of boxing. ..

Well you have a point. but then again, his name being on the list won't be a bad idea. Heck, Tupac made the op's list too so?

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by STILESGANG: 4:18pm On Apr 26, 2019
Youngsage:


Well you have a point. but then again, his name being on the list won't be a bad idea. Heck, Tupac made the op's list too so?
Tupac being on that list is a joke.The op is must be a gang member to even think Tupac us remotely influential.How many people even know that name today except you are into rap?

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Nobody: 4:20pm On Apr 26, 2019
Mayor101010:
Jesus was never a white man.

How many black men knows this? Even some churches have "jesus" pictures in them

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Dreamz77(m): 4:21pm On Apr 26, 2019
Mohamed Ali "the greatest "

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by hermesprogidy(m): 4:21pm On Apr 26, 2019
grandstar:
It's either between Martin Luther King or Barack Obama.

Martin Luther King civil rights crude helped end legal segregation against blacks in America.

Barack Obama was the president of the powerful country in the world for 8 years. He helped end the Great Recession that started in 2008 through pump priming and the Fed use of quantitative easing.

One could say he made little or no impact on the world as president(apart from helped ending a recession and usher in a recovery which benefitted other countries).

Now with Trump at the helm, one can feel Obama's impact better by not making decisions rather than stupid, daft and incomprehensible decisions that Trump makes
Lol the eastern trumptards will soon come for you.

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by RexTramadol1: 4:24pm On Apr 26, 2019
STILESGANG:
Tupac being on that list is a joke.The op is must be a gang member to even think Tupac us remotely influential.How many people even know that name today except you are into rap?



What's in Tu Pac's head





Don't go there, he's an intellectual



That's y he uses the cliche 'Don't judge a book by its cover'

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by hermesprogidy(m): 4:26pm On Apr 26, 2019
babzo:


Young man, how old are you? Tupac was a legend even when he was alive.
He is the GOAT!
Leave that young man alone. Tupac was well ahead of his time when it came to music and lyrics in fact one of the smartest and deepest lyricists the world will ever find. People seem to forget he was only 21 years old when he passed on.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by STILESGANG: 4:27pm On Apr 26, 2019
RexTramadol1:




What's in Tu Pac's head





Don't go there, he's an intellectual



That's y he uses the cliche 'Don't judge a book by its cover'
I don't know about his intellect but he is not even supposed to be in the top 1000 influential list of black people.Minus those into hardcore gang rap he is extremely irrelevant to the general population
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by okoroemeka(m): 4:32pm On Apr 26, 2019
myners007:
The list below contains the names of some of the most influential black men whose works were highly appreciated by many people across the world.Lets get your opinion on whom do you think was the most influential one in terms of the way they imparted lives during the course of their active service in life.In no particular order, i have selected a few to choose from and they are:

1. Martin Luther Jnr.
2. Marcus Garvey.
3.Malcolm X.
4.Fela Anikulapo Kuti
5.Rev. Jesse Jackson.
6.Tupac Amaru Shakur.
7.Bob Nesta Marley.
8.Fmr. President Barack Obama.
9.Michael Jackson.
10.Nelson Mandela
I think dangote should be on that list been the richest black man is not a joke,that man has the Midas touch,if u try to make your own money you will really appreciate this man
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by wirinet(m): 4:36pm On Apr 26, 2019
Johncables402:


If Mandela was such a great black man he would have given each race the appropriate size of land , instead most of the land belongs to the minority whites while many blacks live in the fringes of society . I know residential land is more black than white, but what about the land that matters the most ? Agricultural ( You have been made to depend on your oppressors for food)? Is that sanity ?. I didn't know much about the land problems over there until I followed the debate between the Kenyans, the boer guy and lionessza6 , I thought she was playing victim mentality until I did my own research and realised that she actually had a point. Your inequality starts from the ownership of productive land , you cannot not have a bright future without owning the factors of production. Your banks require collateral which is mostly land with value before they give you a loan for a business expansion , how many blacks qualify for this ?. You can never play a meaningful role in your economy without land ownership my guy . I watched a documentary on why Chris chani was killed and it makes sense . The West tagged him divisive, that is because he wanted the land more than welfare that Mandela gave you people . Do you really believe that your boer friends would have opted for peace and unity if the people in slums looked like them ? Do you think they would be celebrating Mandela if the banks and mines belonged to all ( nationalised )? cheesy. They only supported the so called unity and peace because they got it all ; the institutions, banks , land and of course some of yalls love and loyalty lol. Your country is burning because of the mistakes of this man . I'm not saying he was a total disaster but he can't possible be a hero for black men , not when a black man still digs the dangerous mines without any hope of his sons ever owning a share . I'm not saying he should have taken everything from whites, but he shouldn't have given it all to them not when all the hard work for centuries has been done by the blacks . Without fixing the land issue , I do not see your country ever finding peace , you will always talk about the rainbow but the cries of the masses cannot be silenced forever . I smell another zim land grabbing case coming closer. With many videos from your country with whites tormenting poor black farmers and the many young blacks crying for land ...........1

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I disagree with you on all levels. Mandela was a great leader and very few world leaders could ever match his resilience, foresight and humility.
Mandela was negotiating from a position of weakness. The blacks had been under decades of oppression. The literacy levels of the black was poor compared to the whites and all the security forces were under the control of the apartheid government. They even have support from the US and the British. Confronting them headlong would have been a suicide mission. I know my brothers from the east usually allow emotions instead of intellect get the better of them. They are ready to fight war without calculating their chances of success. The whites had the economic and military power. No way Mandela would confront them headlong, he will lose and lose millions of the people he wants to protect.
The best he could have done is negotiate the best deal, take over government and then empower his people economically and militarily over time. When they have acquired some power, the blacks can then challenge the whites.
Seizing land forcefully would have been a disaster. The blacks did not have the expertise and capital to engage in industrial farming, in fact no black African has been able to engage in industrial farming. Hunger would have wiped out a significant percentage of blacks. See what happened when Zimbabwe seized white land suddenly, food prices jumped thousand times fold. Zimbabwe changed from a net exporter of food to a net importer of food.

I am highly disappointed at the black governments after Mandela, they have done little to alleviate the condition of the blacks. Instead, they exhibit what is regarded as the black mans curse of Greed, avarice and insensitivity.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by babzo(m): 4:38pm On Apr 26, 2019
prince3009:


Answer the question...

What killed awolowo? Was it not kill and dry? Heard the otapiapia dried him so well that there was no need for embalmment!

Refute it and stop bothering who or what I am Prince of!

Keep exposing your stupidity and madness. Better beg your family members to have mercy on you and take you to madness hospital before its too late.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by forgiveness: 4:46pm On Apr 26, 2019
XhosaNostra:


For starters, he served only ONE TERM. So he set an example for those with a conscience, unlike many who wanna rule for life, even when they're one foot from the grave! He was a rare breed of his kind as far as Africa is concerned. He gave up power! If that's not something worth emulating in our Africa that's plagued with power-hungry dictators, then I don't know what is.

Furthermore, he united South Africans under his tenure. Many African countries are in need of such unbiased & unifying force, instead of having presidents that thrive on division, because it distracts the people from the incompetences of their leadership. That's another rare quality of his worth noting.
Africa is an entire continent, so it was not up to him to liberate it (as old & sickly as he was when he was head of state) when each country has its own head of state that is capable of making decisions that aren't self-serving, but choose NOT to for reasons only known to them. Africa doesn't need a messiah. African people need to liberate themselves from the clutches of selfish leaders, but that's a risk many of you are not willing to take for reasons best known to you. Mandela played his part & set a standard for those with a brain to use.

Well, I think he is only influential in South Africa. Abdulsalam relinquished power as military head of state in a military rule to a civilian president in Nigeria.

He restored the current democracy in Nigeria. This is despite the fact that he found himself in that position due to the death of a seating head of state.

His tenure lasted for just 1 year. Even Obasanjo was the first African military head of state to handover to a civilian president.

So, I don't think Mandela case was special. Perhaps, Obasanjo influenced him to do that.

Mandela to me is not influencial to any African outside South Africa.


Halle Sellassie is the number one most influential African that ever lived. This is because after African saw the weakness of Europeans in Ethio Italian war, they came back to Africa to request for independent boldly.

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by princfred(m): 4:46pm On Apr 26, 2019
okoroemeka:
I think dangote should be on that list been the richest black man is not a joke,that man has the Midas touch,if u try to make your own money you will really appreciate this man
Anyone with the full backing of oil government of millions of people with upto giving him monopoly in such huge market for decades can do a dangote. Not there.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by 989900: 4:48pm On Apr 26, 2019
hermesprogidy:

Leave that young man alone. Tupac was well ahead of his time when it came to music and lyrics in fact one of the smartest and deepest lyricists the world will ever find. People seem to forget he was only 21 years old when he passed on.

Tupac was deep, very deep, forget about Pac's music, watch Pac's interviews -- that's your real Tupac!

BTW, he was 25/26 when he left.

My favourite artist (personally, I'm more influenced by him than anyone on that list, but that doesn't speak for the larger population: the entire human race); not in my top ten most influential Black individual though.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Nobody: 4:48pm On Apr 26, 2019
hermesprogidy:

Leave that young man alone. Tupac was well ahead of his time when it came to music and lyrics in fact one of the smartest and deepest lyricists the world will ever find. People seem to forget he was only 21 years old when he passed on.

spurious claim spotted!! shocked


Tupac was 25 when he died man

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by caracas: 4:50pm On Apr 26, 2019
Amujale:


From what you write here, i can easly deduce that you have been brainwashed into believing what they (The West) want you to believe.

But you and "The West" are both wrong.

According to African studies, simultaneously, Christianity, Islam and Judaism combined are the reason for how broken the world is today.

Africans are kind, generous, tboughtful, charming.

The West is ruthless, thoughtless, brutal, unkind e.t.c

Wetin this one dey tlk . Abi u don smoke that thing for this early afternoon?na wa o Africans are kind.....Lol
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 4:52pm On Apr 26, 2019
caracas:

Wetin this one dey tlk . Abi u don smoke that thing for this early afternoon?na wa o Africans are kind.....Lol

Generically, yes according to history, Africans are known to be kind; at least compared to everyone else.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by wirinet(m): 4:58pm On Apr 26, 2019
OladimejiRufai:


spurious claim spotted!! shocked


Tupac was 25 when he died man

If musicians, entertainers and politicians is all we can nominate as the greatest blackman, then we are in trouble.
When the whites have a Leonardo da Vinci, Alexander the Great, William Shakespeare, Albert Einstein, Richard Hawkins, and thousands of others that have changed the world. We can only be proud of entertainers.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by wirinet(m): 5:01pm On Apr 26, 2019
princfred:
Anyone with the full backing of oil government of millions of people with upto giving him monopoly in such huge market for decades can do a dangote. Not there.
And dangote is the only Nigerian that had full government backing and monopoly.
I am sure if you were in the US, you will accuse Jeff Bezos of becoming the richest man in the world because of government backing and monopoly.
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by shadeyinka(m): 5:01pm On Apr 26, 2019
Noel1:


He meant the person who's contributed most to humanitarian cause.
Ok!
Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by Amujale(m): 5:02pm On Apr 26, 2019
wirinet:


If musicians, entertainers and politicians is all we can nominate as the greatest blackman, then we are in trouble.
When the whites have a Leonardo da Vinci, Alexander the Great, William Shakespeare, Albert Einstein, Richard Hawkins, and thousands of others that have changed the world. We can only be proud of entertainers.

1.Imhotep ✓ The worlds first multi- genius and arguably the most celebrated academic of all time.
2. Marcus Garvey ✓ Political Activist
3.Malcolm X. ✓ Political Activist
4.Martin Luther King (Jnr) ✓ Political Activist
5.Emperor Haile Selassie ✓ Monarch & Spiritual Leader
6.Lewis Latimer. ✓ Hall of Fame Inventor
7.Jesse Ernest Wilkins. ✓ Renowned Mathematician
8.Muhammed Ali ✓ Professional Boxer and Political Activist.
9.W.E.B Dubois ✓ Political Activist, Sociologist, Historian and Pan Africanist.


e.t.c

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Re: Who Do You Think Is The Most Influential Black Man To Have Ever Lived ? by princfred(m): 5:06pm On Apr 26, 2019
wirinet:

And dangote is the only Nigerian that had full government backing and monopoly.
I am sure if you were in the US, you will accuse Jeff Bezos of becoming the richest man in the world because of government backing and monopoly.
Did Jeff Bezos receive government backed monopoly?
Mention another business man in Nigeria with government backed monopoly like Dangote over time as much as him.

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