meforkene:

Cersei, Dany and others would still exist but then there's no more a three-eyed raven as Bran hasn't trained anyone. So history of man and himself the NK would be gone.
Importantly, he believed he was going to clear the entire Winterfell where all that have heard about how he can be killed are at this point in time.
His only challenge would be the meisters and books in Old town which is a minor problem for him.
With his large and growing army he'll just conquer everywhere and Cersei...beat them with numbers.
If it's about swimming, that man would build ships (they make uniforms, armour, boots and even have big metal chain).

That's what I feel.

Eberex:


Then you better go back and read about the training she's had. Looks like you want to underrate Arya's skill just because they let you see few of the tricks she was capable of, huh? Did it occur to you, she could have gotten there earlier before the Night king and his generals and then find the best way to hide? Do you think Arya is stupid like Theon on how to attack the Night King? Maybe even Bran knows Arya was there and just allowed the Night king come close to him.

Lol...sees the present and the future you say, yet he did not see his death? Funny you should say that. Even if you are the Night king and you get to the point where he is, knowing he just killed the last person guarding him, and the person he wants to kill is on a wheel chair. What would you do? charge on Bran?

Read your comments again.

Right now it feels like the faceless man allows Arya near-unlimited power as an assassin
The guy you quoted was just ranting that Arya have to kill a night walker in order to wear its face, who told him that?

He forgot where jaqen wore Arya's face.

Isomerizm:
For someone who is so obsessed with the Iron Throne, staying put on said island would be similar to postponing the inevitable.

Without her, and her army, and her dragons, Winterfell would have lost that war, aggrandising TNK's army. Losing Jon, the only other person who can ride a dragon, in the process. Many other potential allies would be lost, too.

TNK would have comfortably moved to wherever in the Seven kingdoms with his army, conquering them with ease. Further, enlarging his army.

Now, The Dany we know wouldn't just sit on an island. She has been obsessed with the Iron Throne since like forever. She'd have to leave her comfort zone to fight for The Throne. This would eternally result in her fighting for the survival she thought she'd bypassed.

Yonce:



Jon was utterly useless as a Leader and a General.
Like is this the Prince that was Promise??

He deserves 5%
He couldn't successfully sneak up on The Night King like Arya did.
Dany took the initiative in roasting wights. He wanted to wait.
He lost his fight with an Ice dragon without a rider.
He couldn't make his way to Bran.

Can't believe he's the prince that was promise. How anticlimactic

crixuss:


You still haven't answered my questions. I will ask you again..

1.How did Arya get to steal the face of a White Walker when we know that in order to steal a face one has to kill the person and peel his face off? When one kills a White Walker they explode into pieces.

2. How did Arya kill a White Walker when all were walking side by side?

3. If one kills a WW all the wights he turned die. We didn't we see any glimpse of wights exploding?

What Melisande told Arya was that she would shut many eyes for ever, brown eyes, green eyes and blue eyes, not wear many eyes. Watch the scene again. She clearly says SHUT MANY EYES FOREVER.

Psady:
that drogon scene where he had to lay low(bow his heads and legs)got me laughing like...,I mean is he trying to sympathies with the mother dragon on the death of jorah.

crixuss:


Like how did Arya get past like ten thousand wights and just jump out of nowhere without the night king and his White Walkers noticing? That's shitty writing and a very anticlimactic end to a storyline line that I thought had more. I mean, what about the Azor Ahai prophesy? The Prince of the dawn? All the build up to this battle and all we get is this underwhelming ending. Honestly I'm not even all that motivated to watch the next episode.

Also how is Sam not dead? I could swear I saw him swarmed by at least 10 wights. There are so many characters that should have died in that battle that just miraculously survived. Jaime, Brienne and Gendry should be dead. If the writers wanted them to survive then they shouldn't have put them in those practically inescapable situations.

Endy10:


Ehmm, Uncle. How did Dany save Jon? Cuz from what I remembered watching this was how it went:

Night King uses blue fire on part of the castle. Jon clashes Rheagal with Viserion. Two dragons inflict injuries on themselves. Night King raises white spear to use on Jon but can get clean shot because of dragons. Eventually Night King gets knocked off Viserion and crashes to ground. Jon hangs on the Rheagal but they also come crashing down. Dany then appears with Drogon where the Night king crashes and tries to Dracarys his ass. But Night King has Odeshi

Please tell me here where Dany prevents Night King from killing Jon?

Uyiii:

Yah! True she said this to Sansa. But I thought if the Night-king killed the three-eyed raven - Bran, it wouldn't have mattered where the fvck anyone is as the whole of mankind (world) will be affected.

Maybe I'm getting it wrong somewhere, I really need an explanation in this ragard from someone.

What would have happened if the NK killed Bran?!

LeSulk:


Dunno about you, but I was singing Wiz Khalifa's "We Dem Boyz" as he and his boys were bouncing towards Bran.

melodyogonna:
I was rewatching season 4 and just found out now that Lord Tywin was the one sponsoring the sons of the hapy against Darnarys in Meereen.

This man sure knows how the game is played, am not sure Darnarys would have made it back to the seven kingdoms if he didn't die, she should be grateful to Tyrion.

HanksAnuku:


Saying she could stayed on the island was only an example of the number of options available to her, none of which included going north

The night king is not a factor from POV of Danaerys, Cersei or Euron.

You're sat in your chair as a viewer seeing the bigger picture, and then making the error of assuming the characters can see what you see.

They can't.

In the shows very first episode, Ned Stark executes a guy who had seen and was warning about the threat of the white walkers.

Quite frankly Jon Snow and Bran are the only people who care about fighting the Zombies.Cersei doesn't. Danaerys doesn't. Stannis didn't. The Lord commanders Mormont and Alliser certainly didn't.
Even in the heat of battle, Sansa clearly doesn't.

The white walker horde simply do not figure in most of these people's plans, so a lot of the stuff you've said up there is completely irrelevant from the point of view of many main characters.

Danaerys only went up north to fight for the north aka Jon. Not because she gives a rats arse about zombies

Any other argument is completely facetious

Isomerizm:
I actually do not disagree with you about her going to the North to fight for a cause that was never within her scope of plans. What necessitated this argument was what someone said about Sansa having absolutely no right to request for the North's sovereignty, simply because Daenerys played a big role in the Salvation of the north, which I disagree with.

Eberex:


The remaining giants were still on their way to join the others, but unfortunately they didn't make it before Arya killed their master.

Are you satisfied now?

Keep looking for loopholes you hear?

HanksAnuku:


Well, what right does Sansa have?

The person who cut the deal was the King in the North, who's jurisdiction includes Winterfell.

Morally, Sansa has no locus standi either, as she scribbled around in the dirt, whilst Danaerys fought to defend Winterfell.

Sansa has no right to open her mouth without first asking permission.

HanksAnuku:


Well, what right does Sansa have?

The person who cut the deal was the King in the North, who's jurisdiction includes Winterfell.

Morally, Sansa has no locus standi either, as she scribbled around in the dirt, whilst Danaerys fought to defend Winterfell.

Sansa has no right to open her mouth without first asking permission.

Endy10:


Ehmm, Uncle. How did Dany save Jon? Cuz from what I remembered watching this was how it went:

Night King uses blue fire on part of the castle. Jon clashes Rheagal with Viserion. Two dragons inflict injuries on themselves. Night King raises white spear to use on Jon but can get clean shot because of dragons. Eventually Night King gets knocked off Viserion and crashes to ground. Jon hangs on the Rheagal but they also come crashing down. Dany then appears with Drogon where the Night king crashes and tries to Dracarys his ass. But Night King has Odeshi

Please tell me here where Dany prevents Night King from killing Jon?

Seun:
This lady figured out the issues with the battle plan before the episode aired. "The first rule of defending a castle is to stay inside the castle"

Uyiii:


Someone should answer this question now, maybe it'll help stop the arguments in this regard.

Question: What would have happened if the NK killed the three-eyed raven??!

Bran and Samwell has already given us an insight as to what it means but it seems some chaps still don't get it. So I really want to know and get an answer from this thread!

golddeejay:
Though i enjoyed the episode, i can't help feeling some things are off. Tyrion's role (i mean, he is most people favorite), how did samwell survived those withings again?. And The Night breaking just like that.

My best moment Lyanna killing a giant. I always look forward to that girl's mouth and expression (always straight as an arrow). Her charging at and killing a dead giant a scene after cleganne was shivering, was the best scene for me.

vetrovialMan:


I tellz you, over make sense for worry am.

Make I see as sersei face for be

ABSTRUSE:


Are you kidding me?
[b]Need I remind you that if it wasn't for Sansa, there would be no North left? [/b]If not for Sansa, there'd be no Jon snow to convince Daenarys to move North.

Magnifico2000:

I prefer Rhaegar Targyrean

Fadedvoices2:



How come he couldn’t command the dragon to spit fire when viserion was fvcking him and rhaegal up badly ?

BoleAndFish:
Quite glaring now. Someone should help me with this guy's name? Very bold and ruthless character! How did he suddenly become weak only to gain little courage when he saw a little girl doing what he was scared to do?

Yonce:



Jon was utterly useless as a Leader and a General.
Like is this the Prince that was Promise??

He deserves 5%
He couldn't successfully sneak up on The Night King like Arya did.
Dany took the initiative in roasting wights. He wanted to wait.
He lost his fight with an Ice dragon without a rider.
He couldn't make his way to Bran.

Can't believe he's the prince that was promise. How anticlimactic