LordReed:


Why would you want to argue facts? Go and ask your god why it created chimps with dna 99% similar to ours (if you'll ever get an answer to that question LMAO!).

BTW I didn't know christians laugh their fuckin' arse off. LMFAO!

OK

stefanbanach:
People here are not understanding me. Maybe because I left out a part of my story. As at January 2018, Atheism stopped making sense to me. I stopped questioning God's existence and tried to find God. I went back to studying the Bible, studied the quran etc. I tried connecting the dots, I came to a conclusion though Christianity have a terrible history, the fact remains that the Bible contains certain truths, although altered. I believe that Christ is just an embodiment of the ideal man. Christ is what we should aspire to be like I came to a conclusion that the Bible and it's contents are allegorical. Still I decided to follow the laws of God(the 10 commandments) and do good to my fellow man at all times. This is what the biblical Christ instructed us to do. This is what I do. This is the kind of Christianity I practice. I'm not an atheist. Not anymore.

Now, I believe Christians practice Christianity wrongly. I believe we can have a perfect world if we practice Christianity the right way. 99% of the Christians, pastors who have prayed for me, didn't change anything. My health remained the same after the prayers.

But this woman has prayed twice, and my health improved. I want to know what she does differently so that I can, WE CAN, do what she does, and have our prayers answered just like hers. I asked her the first time, how did she me better with her prayers. her reply was "JUST TRUST GOD AND HAVE FAITH". The reply wasn't satisfactory.

The purpose of this thread is, what do you think this woman does, that the average Christian doesn't do?


PS: SHE'S A RETIRED/EX-PROSTITUTE....

Have the tests shown that you no longer have the ailment?

What she has, power, living on the inside of her and you lack is Jesus, that is, the One Who formed you in your mama's womb.

hakeem4:
well this is just a sign you do not understand evolution. i cannot waste my time trying to explain it to you. we can create a thread to argue this out

Aiit open the thread I am all game.
Let me prove you and your cohorts wrong.

hakeem4:
well this is just a sign you do not understand evolution. i cannot waste my time trying to explain it to you. we can create a thread to argue this out

Aiit open the thread I am all game.
Let me prove you and your cohorts wrong.

jesusjnr:
Believe me in my opinion, you're still talking gibberish and trying to justify your ingratitude to God by all these excuses you're coming up with, and showing that you're really not serious and probably why you became an atheist in the first place

I saw some of your last posts here and they were posts that openly made mockery of God and blasphemed His Holy name, and you said here that you stopped questioning since January 2018 but I have added some screen shots of some blasphemous comments I saw which you made on mid last year.

And even here in your op you talked about the girl knowing how irreligious you were, how you detested religion and how you were reluctant for her to pray for you, but here you are talking about atheism stopping to make sense to you, how you stopped being an atheist any more, and the kind of Christianity you practiced bla, bla, bla, so to me you were right when you said you were confused, for you're confused indeed.

You may be think i'm being too harsh on you, but you need to understand where i'm coming from is the point of hard truth, that you need to hear for your own good.

For if you say that you had left atheism and started practicing whatever kind of Christianity then how come no one here heard about that?

And worse still how could you not have come to testify of God's healing power you experienced when no one else was able to help you out from the life threatening sickness in the same place you were openly blaspheming his name?

I mean nothing concerning that being mentioned here on Nairaland shows your extent of ingratitude to Him.

And it had to happen again to you but still yet all you could say is that you're confused.

Perhaps it's better that you have even revealed that she was an ex-prostitute so at least that should show you how God works, for God uses the foolish and weak things of this world to confound the wise and strong respectively, for she the ex- prostitute was the same one that told you to go back to God, meaning that she had done the same, and hence made herself a vessel for God to use to this extent.

So my friend instead of wasting time trying to explain yourself, try to right your wrongs and ingratitude this time for you've been given a several chances already and maybe this is your last one.

As you can clearly see I have even shown more appreciation of this your story more than yourself, for I believe it's something that atheists as your former self need to hear.

Yeah, God can use even an ex-prostitute to achieve something that seemed pretty much impossible here on Nairaland, CONVERT ATHEISTS TO BELIEVERS.

Thank you.

Please leave this thread.

kentebemoney:

Bros belive me, the answer she gave to you as simple as it sounds is the BIG TRUTH.

God is respecter of no man nor title.
RETIRED/EX-PROSTITUTE or not, the moment she sincerly gave her life to christ, her sins were wiped clean.
following God in Truth and spirit makes the diffrence not playing "churchnity".

Years ago we were building our fence and the mason we were suppose to give the job did something my mum did not like, so she did'nt give him the job. While the work was on going the mason that should have gotten the job walked past our house with some people(like make i see wetin dem dey do), some minutes after he left the clouds started gathering(and the skies were clear b4 oooo). My mum was vexed in spirit and she went into prayers and decreed clear skies, bros sharply the clouds were rolled backed and the sun came forth.

since then the man dey greet my mama with nuff reverence.

Thank you for understanding my point. I was hoping someone would go deeper and give me an indepth explanation of what she said "Trust God and have faith" OR someone whose prayers gets answers, come here and share what he/she does differently.

LordReed:


Have the tests shown that you no longer have the ailment?

I'll go back next week for the results.

stefanbanach:
Please leave this thread.

Thanks for making saving me more waste of my time.

Goodbye!

I can't help but recall how Bishop Oyedepo's wife was bed ridden for years and received extensive medical care. If there was any thing different that such a person does to receive results shouldn't his wife have been a 1 number one candidate to have it? Why did she receive extensive medical attention if it was just a matter of faith (her name sef na Faith lol)? She even used a wheelchair at some point. Abeg guys I need real proof not wishy washy nonsense.

LordReed:
I can't help but recall how Bishop Oyedepo's wife was bed ridden for years and received extensive medical care. If there was any thing different that such a person does to receive results shouldn't his wife have been a 1 number on candidate to have it? Why did she receive extensive medical attention if it was just a matter of faith (her name sef na Faith lol)? She even used a wheelchair at some point. Abeg guys I need real proof not wishy washy nonsense.

Please don't derail this thread. You can actually open another thread and ask for proofs there.

stefanbanach:
People here are not understanding me. Maybe because I left out a part of my story. As at January 2018, Atheism stopped making sense to me. I stopped questioning God's existence and tried to find God. I went back to studying the Bible, studied the quran etc. I tried connecting the dots, I came to a conclusion though Christianity have a terrible history, the fact remains that the Bible contains certain truths, although altered. I believe that Christ is just an embodiment of the ideal man. Christ is what we should aspire to be like I came to a conclusion that the Bible and it's contents are allegorical.

You are confused, because confusion, is a word we use on ourselves especially when about something or someone that is not understood. Your mind will answer most questions, if you learn to chill, relax and wait for the answers. The answers you seek, never come, when the mind is busy and/or in a state of great disturbance, confusion or uncertainty, they come when the mind is quiet, still and listening. There are years that ask questions and years that answers

stefanbanach:
Still I decided to follow the laws of God (the 10 commandments) and do good to my fellow man at all times. This is what the biblical Christ instructed us to do. This is what I do. This is the kind of Christianity I practice. I'm not an atheist. Not anymore.

The biblical Christ instructed us to do what He command us to do, which is why, in John 15:14, He said: "You are my friends if you do what I command"

stefanbanach:
Now, I believe Christians practice Christianity wrongly. I believe we can have a perfect world if we practice Christianity the right way

"²⁵Your princes are like roaring lions who tear their prey into pieces. They eat people and take their treasures and precious belongings. They turn many women into widows.
²⁶Your priests violate my teachings and dishonor my holy things. They don't distinguish between what is holy and what is unholy. They don't teach the difference between what is clean and what is unclean. They ignore the days to worship me. So I am dishonored among the people.
²⁷Your leaders are like wolves that tear their prey into pieces. They murder and destroy people to make excessive profits.
²⁸Your prophets cover up these things by seeing false visions and by prophesying lies. They say, "This is what the Almighty LORD says." Yet, the LORD hasn't spoken.
²⁹The common people oppress and rob others. They do wrong to humble people and to poor people. They oppress foreigners for no reason."
- Ezekiel 22:25-29

The system of Christianity is above clearly mentioned, in Ezekiel 22:25-29, and besides that, you are putting the cart before the horse, as the perfect world is in the future to come, when the time is ripe.

stefanbanach:
99% of the Christians, pastors who have prayed for me, didn't change anything. My health remained the same after the prayers.

At least there is the 1% who did pray for you, got result(s) and good success for you

stefanbanach:
But this woman has prayed twice, and my health improved. I want to know what she does differently so that I can, WE CAN, do what she does, and have our prayers answered just like hers. I asked her the first time, how did she me better with her prayers. her reply was "JUST TRUST GOD AND HAVE FAITH". The reply wasn't satisfactory.

What she did for you in getting you better with her prayers is God given hence why she is humble about it and not self conceited. Conceit is self given, be careful about it.

An aspect of faith, simply is your response to the message of God's word, love and grace.

stefanbanach:
The purpose of this thread is, what do you think this woman does, that the average Christian doesn't do?

What she does are too many to mention

stefanbanach:
PS: SHE'S A RETIRED/EX-PROSTITUTE....

I am not surprised because God uses rescued people to rescue people. God uses rescued broken people like her, you and I, to rescue and help broken other people like you and I

stefanbanach:
Thank you for understanding my point. I was hoping someone would go deeper and give me an indepth explanation of what she said "Trust God and have faith" OR someone whose prayers gets answers, come here and share what he/she does differently.

The indepth explanation is that firm belief in the reliability, truth, omniscient, omnipotence and ability of God and having faith, as a currency, ready to spend with, in the kingdom of God scheme of things are indispensable for living life fully

stefanbanach:
Please don't derail this thread. You can actually open another thread and ask for proofs there.

It is very much in line with the spirit of this thread because you are asking how something (you are yet to even verify) happened and how people have exhibited such "powers".

MuttleyLaff:
You are confused, because confusion, is a word we use on ourselves especially when about something or someone that is not understood. Your mind will answer most questions, if you learn to chill, relax and wait for the answers. The answers you seek, never come, when the mind in busy and/or in a state of great disturbance, confusion or uncertainty, they come when the mind is quiet, still and listening. There are years that ask questions and years that answers

The biblical Christ instructed us to do what He command us to do, which is why, in John 15:14, He said: "You are my friends if you do what I command"

"²⁵Your princes are like roaring lions who tear their prey into pieces. They eat people and take their treasures and precious belongings. They turn many women into widows.
²⁶Your priests violate my teachings and dishonor my holy things. They don't distinguish between what is holy and what is unholy. They don't teach the difference between what is clean and what is unclean. They ignore the days to worship me. So I am dishonored among the people.
²⁷Your leaders are like wolves that tear their prey into pieces. They murder and destroy people to make excessive profits.
²⁸Your prophets cover up these things by seeing false visions and by prophesying lies. They say, "This is what the Almighty LORD says." Yet, the LORD hasn't spoken.
²⁹The common people oppress and rob others. They do wrong to humble people and to poor people. They oppress foreigners for no reason."
- Ezekiel 22:25-29

The system of Christianity is above clearly mentioned, in Ezekiel 22:25-29, and besides that, you are putting the cart before the horse, as the perfect world is in the future to come, when the time is ripe.

At least there is the 1% who did pray for you, got result(s) and good success for you

What she did for you in getting you better with her prayers is God given hence why she is humble about it and not self conceited. Conceit is self given, be careful about it.

An aspect of faith, simply is your response to the message of God's word, love and grace.

What she does are too many to mention

I am not surprised because God uses rescued people to rescue people. God uses rescued broken people like her, you and I, to rescue and help broken other people like you and I

The indepth explanation is that firm belief in the reliability, truth, omniscient, omnipotence and ability of God and having faith, as a currency, ready to spend with, in the kingdom of God scheme of things are indispensable for living life fully

Thank you for this.

stefanbanach:
Thank you for this.

What you seek, seeks you.

Feel free to ask me any question, I'll endeavour to give you a honest, truthful and factual answer

LordReed:


You should laugh with your god that supposedly created us with 99% similarity in dna with Chimpanzees and 60% similarity in dna with Chickens and Bananas. Your god must be a big practical joker ain't it? LoL

Are you saying that you are also 60% banana?

OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that you are also 60% banana?

Looooooooool........
He is also 99% chimpanzee and 60% chicken and will definitely play a perfect role as an alien in sci-fi movies or cartoons.
Loooooool.

stefanbanach:


Thank you for understanding my point. I was hoping someone would go deeper and give me an indepth explanation of what she said "Trust God and have faith" OR someone whose prayers gets answers, come here and share what he/she does differently.

That is the point. Have full confidence in God's trustworthiness to save and heal you. Have faith in His promises that are yea and Amen in Christ Jesus.

stefanbanach:
Thank you for understanding my point. I was hoping someone would go deeper and give me an indepth explanation of what she said "Trust God and have faith" OR someone whose prayers gets answers, come here and share what he/she does differently.

This has been your problem. She told you to trust God and have faith, and you still want some body to give an in-depth explanation of what she said. Why don't you just trust and have faith. That is all that is required of you. Trust God and have faith. Christianity is not science. I believe you know what trust mean. And believe everything you read in the Bible.

Agrogbeide:


Looooooooool........
He is also 99% chimpanzee and 60% chicken and will definitely play a perfect role as an alien in sci-fi movies or cartoons.
Loooooool.

I keep wondering why they always get offended when we say that they are relatives of apes. Is he saying that he is also related to chickens?

OLAADEGBU:


I keep wondering why they always get offended when we say that they are relatives of apes. Is he saying that he is also related to chickens?

Looooool......nor mind them Jare

Many have passed away without having a last chance of the truth being revealed to them, consider yourself lucky. Don't throw the last opportunity away. Not all Christians practice the religion wrongly, it's a good thing that you noted two most important approaches towards Christianity, which is being Christ-like, and keeping the commandment, that's a good foundation for you. As regards your experience with that lady, believe me it's a small experience, compared to what many believers have experienced and seen. You are curious on what she did. Well it's called spiritual gifts check ist Corinthians 12:9-13. Who can receive these gifts, any believer can, check ist Corinthians 14:1. The lady talked about faith, she is totally correct. Without faith we cannot please God to receive our desires, you should have faith and trust God, I believe you know the story of Abraham'/Sarah, how they conceived in Old age, Abraham had a strong unwavering faith and it was recorded for him as ritousness, Rom4:9, Gal 3:6. Why are some people Atheist? The answer is in 2nd Corinthians 4:4. These are the few passages I want to use to ansa your question.

stefanbanach:
People here are not understanding me. Maybe because I left out a part of my story. As at January 2018, Atheism stopped making sense to me. I stopped questioning God's existence and tried to find God. I went back to studying the Bible, studied the quran etc. I tried connecting the dots, I came to a conclusion though Christianity have a terrible history, the fact remains that the Bible contains certain truths, although altered. I believe that Christ is just an embodiment of the ideal man. Christ is what we should aspire to be like I came to a conclusion that the Bible and it's contents are allegorical. Still I decided to follow the laws of God(the 10 commandments) and do good to my fellow man at all times. This is what the biblical Christ instructed us to do. This is what I do. This is the kind of Christianity I practice. I'm not an atheist. Not anymore.

Now, I believe Christians practice Christianity wrongly. I believe we can have a perfect world if we practice Christianity the right way. 99% of the Christians, pastors who have prayed for me, didn't change anything. My health remained the same after the prayers.

But this woman has prayed twice, and my health improved. I want to know what she does differently so that I can, WE CAN, do what she does, and have our prayers answered just like hers. I asked her the first time, how did she me better with her prayers. her reply was "JUST TRUST GOD AND HAVE FAITH". The reply wasn't satisfactory.

The purpose of this thread is, what do you think this woman does, that the average Christian doesn't do?


PS: SHE'S A RETIRED/EX-PROSTITUTE....

OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that you are also 60% banana?

No

LordReed:


No

The fact that you share 60% of your DNA with banana makes you 60% bananaman, no?

Agrogbeide:
Looooooooool........
He is also 99% chimpanzee and 60% chicken and will definitely play a perfect role as an alien in sci-fi movies or cartoons.
Loooooool.

OLAADEGBU:


I keep wondering why they always get offended when we say that they are relatives of apes. Is he saying that he is also related to chickens?

LoL, It is you who are offended that you are inevitably related to all life on earth including bacteria and viruses but you deny the evidence because it rankles you so much. I on the other hand have made peace with the facts. Ask your god why it created it so, your funny incompetent god. LMFAO!

LordReed:



LoL, It is you who are offended that you are inevitably related to all life on earth including bacteria and viruses but you deny the evidence because it rankles you so much. I on the other hand have made peace with the facts. Ask your god why it created it so, your funny incompetent god. LMFAO!

What does it take to know that God is the Creator and Designer of all things?

[s][/s]

LordReed:



LoL, It is you who are offended that you are inevitably related to all life on earth including bacteria and viruses but you deny the evidence because it rankles you so much. I on the other hand have made peace with the facts. Ask your god why it created it so, your funny incompetent god. LMFAO!

Ok

LordReed:



[s]LoL, It is you who are offended that you are inevitably related to all life on earth including bacteria and viruses but you deny the evidence because it rankles you so much. I on the other hand have made peace with the facts. Ask your god why it created it so, your funny incompetent god. LMFAO![/s]

You need deep rest my dear

stefanbanach:
I'll make it short. I first left Christianity in 2011. It didn't make sense to me. I became an atheist and took a deep dive into the world of philosophy. Last year, I was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. I have spent money trying to get my health back but no way. I have severally gotten to the point where humans cross to the other side but for some unknown reason, I'm still alive.

January this year, the sickness worsened. It paralysed me and made me useless. I struggled to get good healthcare because I couldn't work for money due to my bad health. I resigned and decided to be patient for death. I called a few foes, made peace and prepared myself for death by reading books on nihilism and absurdism, fantasising about the blissful state of non-existence.


One day, a concerned neighbour came to my apartment, she is very much aware of my irreligious nature. She asked to pray for me. Me I no send am because I don follow people pray tire. I told her I was not interested. She told me that I only need to close my eyes and say amen. I reluctantly agreed. She laid hands on me and prayed. After she prayed, I felt different. I started breathing properly, My palms and underneath my feet which were always white as snow became red due to the inflow of blood (there's poor circulation of blood in my body). I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. I spent my whole night questioning the rationale behind the incident. I was able to walk and do my morning exercise the following day and afterwards. The lady told me to go back to God. I decided to give it a try. I went to her church just once and stopped.

Months later, The problem returned. I hadn't gotten a job and I needed money to get medications. I became depressed. My sickness worsened due to anxiety. As usual, I prepared for death.

This night she came again and prayed. Now I feel better.

The point of this writeup is, I'm running mad here. What is happening? I've read tons of books on organised religion and I detest religion. But I recognise the need for man to seek spirituality.

What is going on with me? What is special about that lady? Can anybody give me a concrete explanation for this? Does this woman have the special gift of healing? I'm not a fan of the mysterious.

Your body is helping you get better each time something new is practiced on you. There are many things humans don't understand about their biology yet. What happened to you is the same thing that happens to people in church and make them share testimony only to die of the same ailment they testified about. It's your body that was trying to respond to the prayer made, but your body's action is not enough to heal you. That's why you fall back into that illness.

stefanbanach:
I'll make it short. I first left Christianity in 2011. It didn't make sense to me. I became an atheist and took a deep dive into the world of philosophy. Last year, I was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. I have spent money trying to get my health back but no way. I have severally gotten to the point where humans cross to the other side but for some unknown reason, I'm still alive.

January this year, the sickness worsened. It paralysed me and made me useless. I struggled to get good healthcare because I couldn't work for money due to my bad health. I resigned and decided to be patient for death. I called a few foes, made peace and prepared myself for death by reading books on nihilism and absurdism, fantasising about the blissful state of non-existence.


One day, a concerned neighbour came to my apartment, she is very much aware of my irreligious nature. She asked to pray for me. Me I no send am because I don follow people pray tire. I told her I was not interested. She told me that I only need to close my eyes and say amen. I reluctantly agreed. She laid hands on me and prayed. After she prayed, I felt different. I started breathing properly, My palms and underneath my feet which were always white as snow became red due to the inflow of blood (there's poor circulation of blood in my body). I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. I spent my whole night questioning the rationale behind the incident. I was able to walk and do my morning exercise the following day and afterwards. The lady told me to go back to God. I decided to give it a try. I went to her church just once and stopped.

Months later, The problem returned. I hadn't gotten a job and I needed money to get medications. I became depressed. My sickness worsened due to anxiety. As usual, I prepared for death.

This night she came again and prayed. Now I feel better.

The point of this writeup is, I'm running mad here. What is happening? I've read tons of books on organised religion and I detest religion. But I recognise the need for man to seek spirituality.

What is going on with me? What is special about that lady? Can anybody give me a concrete explanation for this? Does this woman have the special gift of healing? I'm not a fan of the mysterious.

I hope this scripture makes things clear for you.

Acts 3:12
And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?


The power rest on the name of Jesus.


It is that name that has been given to men under heaven in which the can be saved


Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.



You can go down and call on that name for your situation.

If you are confuse, tell him in prayer and you will be surprised.

hopeforcharles:

A fool says in his heart there is no God,
Humans are spiritual beings and are connected to a higher power, Jesus is the way, the truth and the light without him there is no other way.

Even fools know there's no God talkless of you "the intelligent" one.

stefanbanach:
I'll make it short. I first left Christianity in 2011. It didn't make sense to me. I became an atheist and took a deep dive into the world of philosophy. Last year, I was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. I have spent money trying to get my health back but no way. I have severally gotten to the point where humans cross to the other side but for some unknown reason, I'm still alive.

January this year, the sickness worsened. It paralysed me and made me useless. I struggled to get good healthcare because I couldn't work for money due to my bad health. I resigned and decided to be patient for death. I called a few foes, made peace and prepared myself for death by reading books on nihilism and absurdism, fantasising about the blissful state of non-existence.


One day, a concerned neighbour came to my apartment, she is very much aware of my irreligious nature. She asked to pray for me. Me I no send am because I don follow people pray tire. I told her I was not interested. She told me that I only need to close my eyes and say amen. I reluctantly agreed. She laid hands on me and prayed. After she prayed, I felt different. I started breathing properly, My palms and underneath my feet which were always white as snow became red due to the inflow of blood (there's poor circulation of blood in my body). I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. I spent my whole night questioning the rationale behind the incident. I was able to walk and do my morning exercise the following day and afterwards. The lady told me to go back to God. I decided to give it a try. I went to her church just once and stopped.

Months later, The problem returned. I hadn't gotten a job and I needed money to get medications. I became depressed. My sickness worsened due to anxiety. As usual, I prepared for death.

This night she came again and prayed. Now I feel better.

The point of this writeup is, I'm running mad here. What is happening? I've read tons of books on organised religion and I detest religion. But I recognise the need for man to seek spirituality.

What is going on with me? What is special about that lady? Can anybody give me a concrete explanation for this? Does this woman have the special gift of healing? I'm not a fan of the mysterious.

What If the medication is the one being effective here?

Have you tried praying Vishnu, maybe it will work?

I've been down with serious illness in the past, I prayed, my family prayed God didn't do anything until I started taking medications when decided to visit hospital then I was cured.

My brother there are over millions of people suffering from different diseases.