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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adeprince923: 11:15am On May 25, 2019
The Supreme Court voided the APC votes before declaring PDP as the winner

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by Sufisunni: 11:15am On May 25, 2019
rafindo:
Does the constitution recognize wasted vote.the supreme is actually compounding a serious debate. Wasted votes automatically disenfranchised the voter who had nothing to do with internal issue of a party. The best the supreme court should have done is other a new election with APC excluded. People votes must count not court vote. Supreme court erred in error.
APC votes don't count in either way. Voting for a party which ought not to have been on ballot paper is wasted! The court explicitly said, the party with the second highest valid votes should be declared winner if it meets the required spread. By required spread, it means, among the parties with valid votes. So, wasted votes can't be taken into consideration since it neither valid nor invalid.

Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 11:16am On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


Walahi, the comments on this thread shows how the Nigerian educational system has failed.

Those APC votes are votes of Nigerians which is their right. No court can take it from them. Those votes were taken away from APC and placed in an invalid box but they count among the total votes cast. These guys cannot use common sense.

When INEC comes with the official position, they will start shouting INEC is biased. Me i tire for the educated illiterates on Nairaland.
which ever way pdp will still win...Wat ll happen shd be a rerun...and even if Apc tries to sponsor another person it ll fall flat...d parties involved shd learn dier lessons and move on and some youths shd use dier head make dem no die for politicians...mattawale was in apc before today im de pdp...no one knows wee im go enta tommoro...
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by OGHENAOGIE(m): 11:21am On May 25, 2019
lx3as:


What happens to the citizens' right to vote?

INEC should not have included APC candidates on the ballot papers in the first place. However, court asked them to and now those citizens that voted APC can still go to court to fight for their right. Their votes can only be void or rejected and must be included in the final votes cast. In this case, there are more voided votes than valid..
Supreme court should have called for new election without APC.

When the president is inaugurated on 29th, he may approach NASS to approve an administrator for Zamfara State. The question is what happens between May 29 and this period if INEC should take a position that is not immediately giving pdp candidate certificate of returned. The CJ of the state may take over.
and u think you are more knowledgeable dan Supreme Court justices who said d runner up shd be declared winner if he meet d 2/3 requirements...put emotions aside...dis case is like an Olympic race wee d person who won gold was found to have cheated...meanin d silver winner ll be upgraded to gold...since dee is no need for replay...the ruling is clear if pdp meet requirements mattawale take over if not re run

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by fabre4: 11:22am On May 25, 2019
seunmsg:



Very wrong conclusion. Void votes are valid when determining total vote cast in an election. The votes scored by Zamfara APC (though now voided) are still very valid when determining the total vote cast for the election.

The above notwithstanding, the OP is also wrong in claiming that the PDP candidate need 202,696 votes to be returned elected. All that is required to win a governorship election is for a candidate to score majority of the vote cast and get 25% of total vote cast in at least 2/3 of all the local government in the state.


Inec isn't following the Constitution rather it's following the order of the court which says the second highest scorer should be the winner which is PDP simple.
https://dailypost.ng/2019/05/24/breaking-zamfara-supreme-court-nullifies-apc-victory/

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:22am On May 25, 2019
PHILipu1:

Lol.
You are a dreamer,you will be shock by INEC announcement soon.
It's INEC that will determine IF the PDP candidate meets the constitutional requirements.
The answer is NO.
INEC will be the ones to determine of PDP met yhe requirements? Since when did INEC become the courts

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by Eugene1992: 11:31am On May 25, 2019
The question remains if INEC didn't declare PDP winner of the election, what will be the next action and if they comes up with re- election, will APC contest? or will it be PDP and other political parties?
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by Geesaintagape: 11:33am On May 25, 2019
810782-534541=276441.
Total valid vote is 276441
Every arithmetic is towards valid vote
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by lanrecisse30(m): 11:33am On May 25, 2019
seunmsg:



Very wrong conclusion. Void votes are valid when determining total vote cast in an election. The votes scored by Zamfara APC (though now voided) are still very valid when determining the total vote cast for the election.

The above notwithstanding, the OP is also wrong in claiming that the PDP candidate need 202,696 votes to be returned elected. All that is required to win a governorship election is for a candidate to score majority of the vote cast and get 25% of total vote cast in at least 2/3 of all the local government in the state.
you know in first instant APC is not eligible to participate in the General election. That's what supreme Court is saying, exactly like that of Rivers.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by Nobody: 11:40am On May 25, 2019
Fezchima:
Bro, INEC did not consider the rejected votes I determining those percentages in the spreadsheet you cited. 3 components where used namely APC, PDP and valid votes. The rejected was not used.





if NL were to be a yardstick to determine our sound naija educational system is , we'll surely be HQ of whatever
i know you are eager & willing to defend ur party of choice with ur last blood but also relax n apply reasoning ...
rejected vote are deducted solely from valid votes regardless of party .. now listening base on the fact that inec use % (i.e100) shows rejected vote was also a nominal determinant, for instance ekiti apc n pdp pulled 58% 40% = 98% i.e 2% of the total vote was rejected.
in a lameman term inec go say apc score 58 over 100, no phd mathematician can proof 58/98%

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by Nobody: 11:43am On May 25, 2019
[quote author=Fezchima post=78702185]Bro, INEC did not consider the rejected votes I determining those percentages in the spreadsheet you cited. 3 components where used namely APC, PDP and valid votes. The rejected was not used.

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if NL were to be a yardstick to determine how sound naija educational system is , we'll surely be HQ of whatever
i know you are eager & willing to defend ur party of choice with ur last blood but also relax n apply reasoning ...
rejected vote are deducted solely from valid votes regardless of party .. now listen base on the fact that inec use % (i.e100) shows rejected vote was also a nominal determinant, for instance ekiti apc n pdp pulled 58% 40% = 98% i.e 2% of the total vote was rejected.
in a lameman term inec go say apc score 58 over 100, no phd mathematician can proof 58/98%
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by excel101(m): 11:43am On May 25, 2019
kahal29:
”The apex court ordered that the runner-up candidate be sworn in if he fulfils the constitutional requirement of getting one quarter of the total votes cast in at least two-third of the local government areas of the state.

Here is the analysis:

Total votes cast: 810,782

APC: 534,541 votes

PDP: 189,452 votes

So PDP must get 202,696 to clinch the governor seat of Zamfara state.

Let's all Digest this please?

Credit: Omowumi Olalekan
If them leave you, you go even declare supreme court judgement inconclusive o.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by shayubobo: 11:53am On May 25, 2019
ihatesycophant:
You're olodo, was it the APC that voted or the people of Zamfara. The votes cast by people of Zamfara for APC cannot be cancelled from the main votes by your analogy, their votes still part of vote cast but does not benefit APC.
Think like someone that passed through school.
Oga that is not olodo,i hope you remember how Aregbesola emerged as Governor in 2010.... where several votes were cancelled in some areas and Aregbesola was declared winner
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by Nobody: 11:54am On May 25, 2019
engineerboat:



Do you do mathematics in school at All

Going budget you pasted above

1. Using valid votes

In ekiti

APC will have 57.6% approximately 58%

2. Using all votes cast

In ekiti APC will have 55.4%


Isn't that simple



Don't rack your brain further , i bet you will agree with % are yardsticks over 100.
according to the inec spreadsheet if apc had 58% are you emphatically saying apc won on a % of 58/98.
assuming those rejected voted went to another party say NRC party will you talk like these,
if i had not pass to school i wonnt even know that whatever % a student score is bases on over 100%, even when ur lecturer give test saying 30% ..you alreary know on the long run its gonna be on 100% grin
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:12pm On May 25, 2019
OGHENAOGIE:
which ever way pdp will still win...Wat ll happen shd be a rerun...and even if Apc tries to sponsor another person it ll fall flat...d parties involved shd learn dier lessons and move on and some youths shd use dier head make dem no die for politicians...mattawale was in apc before today im de pdp...no one knows wee im go enta tommoro...

No one doubts that.

But i believe if the rerun should take place today, PDP will lose. You never underestimate the power of the voters. Any party can be mobilized to win elections if given time, resources and credibility.

Personally, i feel the that in the end Justice was done however at the expense of true democracy where majority carries the day. Just like Kogi where Kogites are disappointed in their accidental governor, Zamfarans would also sit and look how their mandate was taken by rule of law.

Funny enough, i am sure before 2023, the new PDP governor would have gone back to APC to solidify his chances.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by greggng: 12:18pm On May 25, 2019
That election is inconclusive as far as I am concern...according to the electoral law if the amount of vote cancelled is more than vote cast....then is inconclusive
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:19pm On May 25, 2019
lanrecisse30:
you know in first instant APC is not eligible to participate in the General election. That's what supreme Court is saying, exactly like that of Rivers.

Even if APC should not be on the ballot, AGREED, the votes of Zamfarans that voted APC cannot be deleted. The only way not to disenfranchise them is to place them on invalid list. They are considered to have voted but does not count for any party.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:21pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


Even if APC should not be on the ballot, AGREED, the votes of Zamfarans that voted APC cannot be deleted. The only way not to disenfranchise them is to place them on invalid list. They are considered to have voted but does not count for any party.
Well the votes have been deleted by the supreme court.Go ahead and do your worst

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:23pm On May 25, 2019
greggng:
That election is inconclusive as far as I am concern...according to the electoral law if the amount of vote cancelled is more than vote cast....then is inconclusive
Canceled votes are not same thing as invalid votes biko
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:23pm On May 25, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Well the votes have been deleted by the supreme court.Go ahead and do your worst

Are you this dumb?

Electoral law does not recognize any deleted vote

Its either a valid or invalid vote.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:24pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


No one doubts that.

But i believe if the rerun should take place today, PDP will lose. You never underestimate the power of the voters. Any party can be mobilized to win elections if given time, resources and credibility.

Personally, i feel the that in the end Justice was done however at the expense of true democracy where majority carries the day. Just like Kogi where Kogites are disappointed in their accidental governor, Zamfarans would also sit and look how their mandate was taken by rule of law.

Funny enough, i am sure before 2023, the new PDP governor would have gone back to APC to solidify his chances.
Dont be so sure northeners will be moving to the PDP in 2023
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:25pm On May 25, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Dont be so sure northeners will be moving to the PDP in 2023

Are you 1
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by koolbe(m): 12:25pm On May 25, 2019
The court declared APC votes as wasted. So d only valid votes cast are d votes of PDP and other smaller parties. With this, PDP meets d required spread to be declared winner

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:26pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


Are you this dumb?

Electoral law does not recognize any deleted vote
You are the dumb one.Whether you call it void,invalid,wasted or deleted votes they all mean the same thing.There are recognized by the electoral act as having no input in the election and are thus not counted in declaring a winner
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:27pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


Are you 1
Is my name a northern name?
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:27pm On May 25, 2019
ihatesycophant:
I tell you my brother. Some of them cannot even think straight again because of political difference. I don't blame them, I blame the type of system we are running. They're even terming votes for APC as wasted and non-existence. Meaning, those citizens of Zamfara state that voted for APC have no right to vote in the first place by their analogy. These people are pathetic and need deliverance.

Leave them, INEC would not make that mistake if not, na court cases go start till thy kingdom come.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:28pm On May 25, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

Is my name a northern name?

Why you dey chew onions with another persons mouth?
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:29pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


Leave them, INEC would not make that mistake if not, na court cases go start till thy kingdom come.
They will go to court and lose as usual.Void votes do noy count in elections.

BTW emotions has no place in law

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Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by adanny01(m): 12:30pm On May 25, 2019
PaChukwudi44:

You are the dumb one.Whether you call it void,invalid,wasted or deleted votes they all mean the same thing.There are recognized by the electoral act as having no input in the election and are thus not counted in declaring a winner

There are counted as spread which is indirectly. Are you still arguing that?
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by chingydaboss(m): 12:31pm On May 25, 2019
Sense will not kill u..smart guy
mushystuff:
The court first declared all votes allotted to the APC as wasted, rubbish and void. So subtract those and come back with the actual, judicially recognised votes and your question again.
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:31pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


Why you dey chew onions with another persons mouth?
Is that any of your business?
Re: Zamfara Supreme Court Judgement: Did PDP Meet The Constitutional Requirement? by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:32pm On May 25, 2019
adanny01:


There are counted as spread which is indirectly. Are you still arguing that?
There is nothing like indirectly.Stop speaking rubbish.Only valid votes will be taken into account in declaring a winner

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