Deicide:
The free mason are not occultist o They are so rich because they help themselves But trust my Christians Bro and Sis to always demonize what they don't understand or feel is a threat to their belief. Unfortunately i can't join the free mason because one of the cateria of becoming a member is that you have to believe in a God.

alBHAGDADI:


When the Bible speaks of good fruit, it is not saying good deeds. Good fruit is producing a disciple who is good like yourself and Christ. Good deeds is doing good things.

Ishilove:
I have a friend who was supposed to tell me about this group, but since he has vanished into thin air, I decided to bring it here.
You know about freemasons and are only pretending to b naive.
If u truly wanted to knw more you wouldnt b here. NL is notoriously poor for intelligent discourse.

I have read about this group and seen some of their handworks (the current Oba of Benin is a Mason), but I don't seem to understand exactly what their mission is, or why the group is so secretive. I am also puzzled why ALL their members are wealthy and highly placed in the society. Isn't it strange?

Can anyone care to enlighten me?

asalimpo:

on the onset this is the requiremnt, as you get deeper into it nd climb the ranks,you find out tht their God is Lucifer. Read about Albert pike nd what he said. He was a prominent mason.

Xavier5:


It's a Fraternal Organization, Freemasonry unites men of good character who, though of different religious, ethnic or social backgrounds, share a belief in the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of mankind.

From The Little Research And Study I've Done About Them, It's Look Like A Kind Of Secret Society Or Occult.

SOURCES:
https://www.freemason.com/how-to-join/what-is-freemasonry/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

#Xavier.

alBHAGDADI:


The best way to know a pastor who is a Mason is by one method. Before that method, you get to see certain signs which will make a true Christian apply that method.

What are the signs? They are very wealthy, worshipped and full of false doctrines. A true pastor can possess such attributes too, but before you conclude on labeling any one a Mason, you have to apply the one method.

If they are preaching work based Salvation, then they are liars and a Mason for being rich and worshipped.

If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach and they are rich and worshipped, then it means they are true but just doing the gospel for filthy lucre sake


If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach AND ARE NOT RICH, then they are truly doing it for God.

asalimpo:

on the onset this is the requiremnt, as you get deeper into it nd climb the ranks,you find out tht their God is Lucifer. Read about Albert pike nd what he said. He was a prominent mason.

budaatum:

It is for this reason that would be Masons are asked to seek for themselves. That which they find helps separate the wheat from the chaff! Morals and Dogma is a very big book of about 900 pages which I can safely say you have not read!

Have you heard the sad story about the dog that someone tried to dry off in a microwave oven? What about the one where a jealous husband poured concrete into a new convertible, not realizing it was a surprise anniversary gift from his wife? Or maybe you've read about Albert Pike's so-called "Luciferian Doc-trine," which teaches Masons that Lucifer is God?

These stories have one thing in common: they're all false. The first two are harmless "urban myths," innocently retold as cautionary tales. The story about Albert Pike and Lucifer, however, is a lie that will not die. Gabriel Antoine Jogand-Pages (writing as Leo Taxil) conceived the hoax and designed it to slander Freemasonry and to embarrass the Catholic Church. It has been repeated for a century by anti-Masons who accept with child like eagerness any slur against our gentle craft.

Read more at Albert Pike And Lucifer: The Lie That Will Not Die by S. Brent Morris, PM.

Sir can you please shed more light.. I want to be enlightened, like is it for only men? Is it for only the rich? Is it secretive? Is it ocultic? Just a curious mind that one to learn and know.

Deicide:
when i say that you have to believe in God i wasn't talking about Yahweh ofcourse Yahweh is inclusive you can believe in any God you like, if You consider Satan to be a God ohhoo. And besides last time i checked Satanism has good moral principle that Christianity.

asalimpo:

But as u ascend,all the veneer peels away. It's out nd out satanism and occultism and demonic. It wouldnt hav been half as appealing if they simply marketed themselves without the facade. Sheeps in clothings only.

Shepherd00:

In other Words, if I say 'Once saved is not always saved', and I'm prosperous, I'm of the devil?

WTH is this guy saying?

budaatum:

When the Bible speaks of good fruit, it is not saying good deeds to you alBHAGDADI, which is why you do not seem to care whether your deeds are good or bad. If you did care, you would not be bearing false witness which is a very bad deed that produces rotten fruit and is one of the ten that the Lord thy God commanded that thou shalt not do!

Good fruit is produced by doing good deeds, like Christ himself produced, and by it are we known, as Hungerbad has shown. If you do not plant good seeds appropriately and accordingly your fruit will be stunted and bad. After all, out of the abundance of thy heart and all.

P.s. I'm going to ignore your further contributions on this thread for two reasons. The first is that I need not bother pointing out your ignorance because the readers of this thread are not stupid nor blind. The second is out of respect for Hungerbad, our dear newly departed Squared and Levelled brother who's memory I shall not desecrate.

alBHAGDADI:


The best way to know a pastor who is a Mason is by one method. Before that method, you get to see certain signs which will make a true Christian apply that method.

What are the signs? They are very wealthy, worshipped and full of false doctrines. A true pastor can possess such attributes too, but before you conclude on labeling any one a Mason, you have to apply the one method.

If they are preaching work based Salvation, then they are liars and a Mason for being rich and worshipped.

If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach and they are rich and worshipped, then it means they are true but just doing the gospel for filthy lucre sake


If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach AND ARE NOT RICH, then they are truly doing it for God.

alBHAGDADI:


I'm saying what you will never understand cos you are not saved.

asalimpo:

your allegations are dumb and unfounded. So being rich is a barometer of ones allegiance? How about being healthy?
How about being intelligent?
Is sickness, living at a hospital 340 days of d year, being a burden on ur employers nd family,a sign of spirituality? The sicker u r the more righteous you r?
Sure,most pastors today,do abuse the prosperity message but guess what? You CANNOT FIGHT satan's kingdom without good money. As a matter of fact,i'd say jesus' coming has been delayed because of the relative poverty of His church. While hollywood can spend $300M or even a $1b on a fantasy movie based on pure fiction but with impressive graphics and world class actors that hav made the chracters they potray (e.g spiderman,iron man, captain america) household names, the body of christ cant match their quality of work talkless of outdoing them, why? No money. One solid christian blockbuster movie on par with d best out there could do a lot,making bible characters entrenched in d mind of viewers e.g samson, jacob,goliath etc. Dude,satan is running d show here because he's got d money.

Shepherd00:

Lolzz. Okay Mr God. You know who is and who is not saved.

Make sure to stand by the gate of heaven when I die with the book of.life to turn me back.

alBHAGDADI:


You are not saved because you believe Jesus is not strong enough to enough to keep you save till the end. That's why you depend on your works of righteousness to save you.

alBHAGDADI:



Mark 10:25 (KJV)
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.



Yet you think a rich pastor will somehow make heaven.

alBHAGDADI:



Mark 10:25 (KJV)
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.



Yet you think a rich pastor will somehow make heaven.

alBHAGDADI:


The best way to know a pastor who is a Mason is by one method. Before that method, you get to see certain signs which will make a true Christian apply that method.

What are the signs? They are very wealthy, worshipped and full of false doctrines. A true pastor can possess such attributes too, but before you conclude on labeling any one a Mason, you have to apply the one method.

If they are preaching work based Salvation, then they are liars and a Mason for being rich and worshipped.

If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach and they are rich and worshipped, then it means they are true but just doing the gospel for filthy lucre sake


If it's Once Saved Always Saved they preach AND ARE NOT RICH, then they are truly doing it for God.

Shepherd00:

In other Words, if I say 'Once saved is not always saved', and I'm prosperous, I'm of the devil?

WTH is this guy saying?

alBHAGDADI:


[s]Keep your junk doctrine to yourself. Good fruit is not good deeds, neither are good deeds good fruits.

Fruits is produced after its kind. If I produce a good disciple like myself, it means I have produced good fruit. If I do a good deeds, it doesn't mean I have produced a good fruit.[/s]

Shepherd00:

Lolzz. Okay Mr God. You know who is and who is not saved.

Make sure to stand by the gate of heaven when I die with the book of.life to turn me back.

alBHAGDADI:


You are not saved because you believe Jesus is not strong enough to enough to keep you save till the end. That's why you depend on your works of righteousness to save you.

budaatum:

Lol, Shepherd. The irony of it, eh?

ThothHermes:
You a mason?

Ishilove:
I have a friend who was supposed to tell me about this group, but since he has vanished into thin air, I decided to bring it here.

I have read about this group and seen some of their handworks (the current Oba of Benin is a Mason), but I don't seem to understand exactly what their mission is, or why the group is so secretive. I am also puzzled why ALL their members are wealthy and highly placed in the society. Isn't it strange?

Can anyone care to enlighten me?

Ishilove:

Is Dr Olukoya also a Mason?

alBHAGDADI:

Hungerbad may have been doing good deeds, but that doesn't mean he produced good fruits. Even Satan does good deeds too. But can he produce good fruit? No.