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bosstim:
Please list Messi's achievements Biko, all what you'll be saying is how he has won a zillion titles with Barcelona, how he has won a trillion trophies with Barcelona, how he has scored a billion goals with Barcelona, how he's a master at nun camp (Barcelona's pitch), everything he has done is with Barcelona his comfort zone and you dare compare him with someone whose achievements cuts across the shores of Europe down to his own country Bros Abeg na try drop all this your baseless sentiments

Does Ronaldo own at least 1 national best player of a tournament

OPTIMUSPRIME08:
what a shame one has to type all these to defend pepsi.
But i tell you this there is no excuse for failure its either you win or lose, messi is a barca legend but not a footbal legend, more reasons his best performances are at camp nou, no one is a reflection of perfection.
Judging by individual performances, Argentina has one of the best teams in the world so if they perform this bad, question the leadership mentality surrounding that team.
Ronaldo uses both flair, motivation, promises and frustration to carry this Portugal team along, he does more off field build up, Ronaldo organised a party for juve after they lost to ATM in UEFA champions league.
This alone takes guts, anyway your Pepsi secondly retirement loading

you deserve a chilled beer.

Oya make him still try carry one na, if it's that easy why him never win anyone Who best player epp sef

Andrewkinggg:
LoL and you forgot Messi has played in all major competitions final he has featured in.
World Cup Final
Copa America Final 2x
Uefa Champions League Final.

And it wasn't Messi's goals that has pushed his team far in those tournaments. Double standards LoL

Let me also add Messi has won Best player of the tournament in every major tournament he has featured in.

KpagoGIN:
Thank you very much for your understanding and I cannot blaming Messi for the outcome of this competition just saying same thing but in different way, players that were suppose to help him out seems to be shooting blanks, if am Messi's brother since him suppose don retire cause it like every Argentine that can kick a ball just enters the field of play and believes Messi will do everything even the stars just they show lacklustre attitude. Watching the match was like watching the NPLF where Enyimba vs MFM play without precision, muscle here, anywhere belly face, kick and follow while for Messi mind he will just be saying wetin carry me come this competition injury for end of season for save me from this set of rookies called team mates.

Those that blame Messi are simply happy with his misery in the national team.

But that will not stop Messi from being the best...

No Superstar in history has ever played with such ineffective teammates!!!

People mention Cristiano but Portugal rose in FIFA ranking when Ronaldo was not even available to make them win all their games in the UEFA nations League.
That is a good team.
People said Euro 2016 final is due to his motivation but what about Confederation cup 3rd place, what about UNL before the semi final, why is Bernaldo Silva the best player in the tournament

Mention any Superstar : Zizou, R9, Maradona, Pele. None of them has teammates that can't even complete passes...

Just watch the present Argentina team if I am exaggerating...

Andrewkinggg:
LoL and you forgot Messi has played in all major competitions final he has featured in.
World Cup Final
Copa America Final 2x
Uefa Champions League Final.

And it wasn't Messi's goals that has pushed his team far in those tournaments. Double standards LoL

Let me also add Messi has won Best player of the tournament in every major tournament he has featured in.

apart from carrying the champions league in 2015......which other major trophy has he carried......


if I can remember, Ronaldo has carried every major trophy in the Final he has played in

Bioadapt1:
you deserve a chilled beer.

Why is Messi the most hated player in the world??

Raydos:
I respect messi what he has done for Barcelona

But I respect Ronaldo for what he has done for football!!

i smell barca& messi fans coming like bees for the truth u just said

Damfostopper:
apart from carrying the champions league in 2015......which other major trophy has he carried......


if I can remember, Ronaldo has carried every major trophy in the Final he has played in

So the League is not a major trophy

You funny sha, so that one na achiement too We're talking about achievements you dey talk about national best player of a tournament achievement. Oya take this

Blabbermouth:
Does Ronaldo own at least 1 national best player of a tournament

The pic says it alk

Beverlyjean:
In as much as u tried to sound brilliant ... U still had sentiments written all over ur post... U Messi fans have trolled Ronaldo over the years... U Messi fans started the country challenge when Messi got to the final of the world cup ... U guys laughed at Ronaldo , saying he was disgraced in the same world cup , that he was knocked out in the group stage... U guys didn't remember them that it was a team sport... U didn't remember then that the Portuguese team was wack... After the trolls and loosing his balon d'Or to his eternal rival Messi... He took it up as a challenge and put in all efforts to win the Euros.. still, can u compare the Portuguese team to the Argentine national team... In the last WC , Portugal scored 6 goals , with Ronaldo scoring 4 goals... The same WC Argentina scored same 6 goals with Messi scoring just once and u will still blame the rest of the players... Y can't he showcase his Barca performance in Argentina... After all, he scored most of Barca's goals... When juventus were knocked out of the champions League, u guys trolled Ronaldo , tho he scored all 5goals that juve scored in the CL knock out stages, not knowing that Messi was gonna b disgraced by Liverpool...

Forget sentiments and b truthful... Ronaldo is actually the greatest football player of this era ... full stop

Ronaldo fans are zombies that know not the obvious; that goal isnt the only shit in football. . Well I don't blame u guys tho bcus that is the only thing your GOAT can offer..(quality-less goals with a load of tap-ins and penalty)

eni4real:
So the League is not a major trophy

ya is a major trophy.... a league that has Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern Munich .....Manchester City, psg, juventus, and others completing the 20 teams.... at the end maybe Ajax, Chelsea and Inter Milan are relegated...... .......



league cup a major trophy indeed

Andrewkinggg:
LoL are you done? Did you think this deep before spewing this shjt?
He doesn't want anyone to outperform him at the expense of his team lifting the trophy. I have read some dumb shjts online but yours is out of this world.

Please delete this comment of yours abeg..

Lol... I read what she wrote, that's the most stupid thing I've ever read on Nairaland. What she wrote there shows what hate does to the mind.

bosstim:
You funny sha, so that one na achiement too We're talking about achievements you dey talk about national best player of a tournament achievement. Oya take this

Oga PELE, MARADONA AND DE LIMA (THE REAL RONALDO) won their national tournament with a tournament best player.. It shows they spear headed their team to the trophy. Varane get world cup and champions league,, by ur definition he is greater than Ronaldo. Olodo.
Thou knowest not what greatness is

Damfostopper:
ya is a major trophy.... a league that has Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern Munich .....Manchester City, psg, juventus, and others completing the 20 teams.... at the end maybe Ajax, Chelsea and Inter Milan are relegated...... .......



league cup a major trophy indeed

It is a hardwork of 38 weeks.

It is a major Trophy!!!

eni4real:
Those that blame Messi are simply happy with his misery in the national team.

But that will not stop Messi from being the best...

No Superstar in history has ever played with such ineffective teammates!!!

People mention Cristiano but Portugal rose in FIFA ranking when Ronaldo was not even available to make them win all their games in the UEFA nations League.
That is a good team.
People said Euro 2016 final is due to his motivation but what about Confederation cup 3rd place, what about UNL before the semi final, why is Bernaldo Silva the best player in the tournament

Mention any Superstar : Zizou, R9, Maradona, Pele. None of them has teammates that can't even complete passes...

Just watch the present Argentina team if I am exaggerating...

yesterday match was as if Okpotu of the home base eagles and Tijani of the under 20 were partnering Messi, first of all I was like who be this people with strange names, abi the coach collect inducement select boys come the competition because as I said it like as long as you can kick a ball having Messi as your team mate na like 80% of your football woes are solved. And Paraguay had a filled day playing police football even shame come they worry me cause they were enjoying the unorganised display by the Argentine. In fact large part of the match lacked fluidity any small thing referee have put whistle for mouth and before I forget Otamendi na Calamity.

bosstim:
Oya make him still try carry one na, if it's that easy why him never win anyone Who best player epp sef

Oga it showed u spear headed ur team.. well ah don't xpect u to comprehend.. Na Bernardo Silva spear head Portugal

safarigirl:
I bet you wish Messi had one of those glorified trophies for friendly games. You know, those things still count as an INTERNATIONAL Trophy, because it was won in a group of INTERNATIONAL friendlies. South America should organise one of those, maybe Messi will finally win something......if he doesn't bottle the finals of course

If Messi retires today he will still be the best player of his generation and those who don't see it knows nothing about football . Ronaldo is a great player but he's overrated when compared to Messi , let's take away their trophies cos those are won by teams . One of them scores , while the other scores , dribbles , creates lots of chances , is the best passer of the ball ever , is a fk specialist of late , and assists his teammates always . Who would u take . Be sincere .


PS :according to uefa , those were friendly games .

Beverlyjean:
Messi is the one controlling that team... He doesn't want anyone to outperform him....he knows players like dybala, aguero and icardi will easily outshine him... That's y he preferred the dead higuain over these players cause he always knew higuain was never technically sound unlike the others mentioned

I've read some shit on Nairaland but I give it to you. This is the dumbest comment I've ever read on Nairaland. Clap for yourself!

Andrewkinggg:
Copa America twice but refused one so it was handed to Chile's Sanchez.
What else do you want?

You liar... Sanchez won his golden ball fair and square

It was only in 2015 that Messi rejected his coz he knew he didn't worth it....

Olugbenga1234:
If u are a true football fan u will remember when messi back in the days disvirgined one Argentine girl like that, so the girl took her blood and swear for him. That is why all this is happening. If messi finds the girl and apologise then the curse will be removed. But unfortunately this girl died from an accident the same day the incident happened. She was crying car now jam her...

Uncle, Agbaya ni yin sir

GoTV:
In life you can't have it all. Life itself is full of up and down moments. As great as Ronaldo Delima who won many trophies with Brazil including World Cup, he couldn't win the Champions League which players like Daniel sturridge won recently despite playing for almighty Madrid filled with super stars. Jay Jay okocha as good as he was never won the African footballer of the year award which fringe players like Adebayor and El-hadji diouf won.


Many of you trolling messi's predicament with Argentina are doing so due to high expectations and unimaginable standards he sets for himself. He's a victim of his brilliance no doubt but never forget winning trophies is not exclusive to a player effort. Football is a team sport but i wonder why you all blame messi when he has been unfortunate to be with paper weight team mates. An injured Ronaldo won the Euro cup due to the fighting spirit of the Portuguese players (credit to Eder) after Ronaldo led them to finals with his goals. Same as the recent nations league which guedes delivered and Bernardo silva emerged best player.


Ronaldo is the arrow head of the Portuguese team no doubt but his team mates deliver when he's not in charge, unlike messi whose team mates are big names on paper but play terribly despite his efforts to inspire them to glory. Higuain missed 3 decisive one on one chances against Germany in 2014 finals before gotze scored, chances fringe players like guedes and Eder converted to win Ronaldo the international trophies you all troll about. Everything in Argentine football must not be delivered by messi. It's a games of 11 players so why place the burden on only messi as if Portugal fields only Ronaldo against other teams? When Elder and guedes scored to win the trophy when it mattered most, you guys ignore their efforts and give all praises to Ronaldo. When Argentina team plays badly even if defenders scored own goal all blame goes to messi. Haba guys, what level of hypocrisy?


This is not to defend or absorb messi of his involvement in the failure of the Argentine's team to win a major afterall he missed a penalty against chile in previous Copa finals, but i think we are too harsh on him with unreasonable criticisms.

I hope Majority of you guys criticizing him have achieved all you desire in life? I hope there is nothing again you which to achieve or conquer? Can you have it all in life? No. Even Atiku with all his billions stills dreams of being a president. You can't have it all. Ronaldo is fortunate to be in a team with winning mentality, unlike messi. Despite all Cristiano Ronaldo has won in his career, he would also wish to have a world cup medal which players like Giroud won without scoring a goal. There is always something left to chase and achieve. Despite all this challenges It doesn't dispute the fact that messi is indeed amongst the greatest players to play the game.


Had he naturalized to spain like diego Costa during their golden era of winning euros and world cup, this debate of who the greatest is would have been buried. Even if Argentina wins this year's copa America, you Ronaldo fans will still troll messi to win another international trophy to match Ronaldo's two. Nothing messi does will ever satisfy you people.


He's a victim of his brillance. Simple

you call dimaria,rojo ,aguero,mascherano ,higuain and zabelata paper weight.....Oga go and wash your brain with omo

Andrewkinggg:
Constantly fails?
If been the highest goal scorer and having the most assists for Argentina is failures then I doubt you have a knowlegde on football. If having to win the U20 & Olympics with Argentina is failure you definitely is incoherent on this subject maybe you should switch to cricket or golf.
If Messi scoring an Hatrick to qualify Argentina to the last world is failure then you obviously is ignorant about this guy's greatness.
If Messi being the only player to have Player of the Tournament in every international football tournament is a failure I guess your MCM would want that failure.
If Messi has led his team to 4 back to back international finals is a failure I know many players who wished they had that luxury of playing in a world cup final LoL

You are speaking like Messi isn't performing when he's on the Argentina shirts. Why blame Messi for Argentina's failure? Would he defend, goal-keep, score, create chances, assists and score at the same time?

Your knowledge in football is so poor dude. Football didn't start 3 years.

Thy knowledge is deep in football.. ah might quote ur name in some other sport football thread.

Beverlyjean:
In as much as u tried to sound brilliant ... U still had sentiments written all over ur post... U Messi fans have trolled Ronaldo over the years... U Messi fans started the country challenge when Messi got to the final of the world cup ... U guys laughed at Ronaldo , saying he was disgraced in the same world cup , that he was knocked out in the group stage... U guys didn't remember them that it was a team sport... U didn't remember then that the Portuguese team was wack... After the trolls and loosing his balon d'Or to his eternal rival Messi... He took it up as a challenge and put in all efforts to win the Euros.. still, can u compare the Portuguese team to the Argentine national team... In the last WC , Portugal scored 6 goals , with Ronaldo scoring 4 goals... The same WC Argentina scored same 6 goals with Messi scoring just once and u will still blame the rest of the players... Y can't he showcase his Barca performance in Argentina... After all, he scored most of Barca's goals... When juventus were knocked out of the champions League, u guys trolled Ronaldo , tho he scored all 5goals that juve scored in the CL knock out stages, not knowing that Messi was gonna b disgraced by Liverpool...

Forget sentiments and b truthful... Ronaldo is actually the greatest football player of this era ... full stop

wow! you are a genius! I am a Ronaldo fan but this stat about world cup you just brought is an eye opener. following u ASAP

frankmoney:
lol so you are saying Ronaldo is Mikel and Messi okocha ... Are you alright my friend ? Ronaldo and Messi have won same number of ballon d'or . Ronaldo has won champions league three times in a row in which he was a major contributor . Even the euro 2012 .. he singlehandedly took them to that finals but couldn't play it . If Ronaldo was in Argentina I bet you he would have won the world cup .... Quit whining Messi is a joker in international football and alsways hides in Barca t shirt

You fans of the tap-in merchant lie too much! What's the meaning of "singlehandedly"? You think say na only you watch the Euros? Did he not score the same number of goals in the tournament as Nani?
If Messi had that Portugal team, he'd have won 4 trophies including a world cup whether he flops so bad in the final or runs away in the finals like a certain tap-in merchant.

safarigirl:
Messi fans are selling the story that he is a football god, are they not? A god that constantly fails? Do you know how many times Messi haa failed the Argentine team? Was he not the one that missed a penalty at the Copa America finals against Chile and then abandoned the team after he cost them the cup? On that alone, they ought to have exiled him from the team.

He should learn to step up when it matters, he always bottles important games. In Barcelona, Neymar eas saving his asss at some points, and later Suarez, in Argentina, the world can see him better. This is the football god that chooses when to step up and when to leave things to his team mates.

You sound so smart but you are not, guess that familiar with Ronaldo fanboys, it's laughable when your lots try to discredit all these man has done for Argentina, The football world knows Messi is still the GOAT with or without major national trophy, ever wonder why your Ronaldo don't get that recognition despite his success with his national team??

charlesm91:
them still dey believe the illusion that Ronaldo no win Euro cos he got injured in the final.

Don't mind them. You can't help those who choose to be rεtarded. Were they not watching when Ronaldo rescued Portugal in the group stages of Euro 2016 after a bad start that they qualified as best losers? If not for those beautiful goals in the group stages, Portugal would have gone home. They've also forgotten about his goals in the knock out stages. By their logic, Messi contributed nothing to FC Barcelona's 2015 ucl success because he didn't score in the final. Bunch of f00ls.

Did they forget that in the Nations League semi finals, Portugal's opponents were the better team? Think of what would have happened without Ronaldo in that semi final. In that semi final, had Ronaldo not played, Portugal and Bernado Silva would have gone home.

MrMou:
You fans of the tap-in merchant lie too much! What's the meaning of "singlehandedly"? You think say na only you watch the Euros? Did he not score the same number of goals in the tournament as Nani?
If Messi had that Portugal team, he'd have won 4 trophies including a world cup whether he flops so bad in the final or runs away in the finals like a certain tap-in merchant.

You are acting like the Portuguese national team is better than the Argentine national team. Be sincere with yourself, Argentina have had a FAR SUPERIOR TEAM from 2007-2018. Only recently did the Argentine squad become trash, not because the Portuguese team got better but they fumbled in their squad selection. Despite this Argentina still has quality players that better than most of the Portuguese players to select from. Given this, why has Messi not won any international trophy? If Ronaldo had played in Argentina, he would have won the world Cup.

Andrewkinggg:
In the 2014 world cup Messi had 5 MOTM awards, most than any other players at that tournament. With that been said it clearly shows Messi performances ensured Argentina passage to the final. Messi style of football is beyond just goals, he playmakes, dribbles, create chances, assists, scores. Messi is too many package in one.

Do you know your hatred for Messi has blinded you that you lack coherence in football. You have google, its free, make use of it.
Messi is in the fifa best XI at the 2014 world cup.

Ronaldo fanboys are so ignorant, you just have to keep lecturing them on football

eni4real:
Why is Messi the most hated player in the world??

you think Messi is the most hated player in the world? Try being Ronaldo

My only problem with MESSI is that He lacks leadership skills, He is easily defeated emotionally. To me, politics is in Argentina national team

I don't know.