jiggaz:
Awesome God

In all my years on Naira land, this is the Longest post I have ever read. I can't believe that I actually read everything. Very insightful, interesting and informative. Did you write everything yourself or just a post from a blog? Anyway thanks for posting this.
God bless

GerogeI:


How dumb. Obviously you are one of those who think they know a lot based on classical science classes.

Continuous genetic Differentiation in one direction will give you a prominent change. For example, if all kids without enough dark pigmentation died early of skin cancer, they will not reproduce, the population becomes inherently dark skinned over time as strong pigmentation becomes a common feature of surviving population. Please go and study Genetic Optimization before coming here to argue blindly.


Please tell me, why does salt water not mix with fresh water? Cause when that happen you only have a less salty water. Meaning marine creatures can survive in it depending on the degree of saltiness. With time you will have gradual filtration of such water pool via the natural water cycles and they will return as being fresh water. Such will take time, some animals will die off, some will survive and evolve. Bottomline, there is plenty meat to be fished off water pools, and even muds pools were you can have mud fish. Specialization in eating only antelope will come after antelope populations have grown. Just like bears who find themselves in polar region will learn to fish.

Hello, go figure the amount if water stored in the clouds, and the amount stored in polar ice caps and you will be amazed. Genesis can help you- He God made a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. And the waters below formed the seas. If He releases the waters above, you will have your flood. And all he needs to release it is to lower temperatures. We all already know an Ice age happened for sure.

Thank you. This is my last response to your ignorant self.

At the bolded, I don't seem to understand. That's if you understood what you meant.

dazzlingd:


Lmao just imagine.

A full grown man believing rainbow is a sign God won't flood the world again...
Why did Yahweh have to flood the world in the first place, couldnt he have just seized the heart of all the humans he wanted to kill. He could have just taken away their breath and they all die... Or what sins did the plants and animals commit...that would have saved the stress of flooding, building an ark... And saving 2 species each of the animals.

Theses are the people the Christians won't think of when their evil god killed everyone.
1. Babies still sucking breats
2. The disabled
2. Little children
4. Old men and women.
Even innocent ants, innocent birds living their lives

But Yahweh killed them all! Very wicked

You are funny ó... Your case is Like a clay pot calling the Potter wicked because He decided to break it apart. God is the creator, and we His creation, and when He is displeased with us due to our misdeeds, we suffer the consequences. All things we created for HIS pleasure. HE decides what to do with his creation, including wiping away with a flood. That's why John 3:16 still marvel Christians.. How can a creator so love His creation that after all our sins, He still sends HIS only begotten Son to die for us.

And here you are spewing all these nonsense.. Devil is a liar o

aytuns:


You are funny ó... Your case is Like a clay pot calling the Potter wicked because He decided to break it apart. God is the creator, and we His creation, and when He is displeased with us due to our misdeeds, we suffer the consequences. All things we created for HIS pleasure. HE decides what to do with his creation, including wiping away with a flood. That's why John 3:16 still marvel Christians.. How can a creator so love His creation that after all our sins, He still sends HIS only begotten Son to die for us.

And here you are spewing all these nonsense.. Devil is a liar o

So he creates babies and destroy them for his pleasures.

Then Boko Haram and terrorists who kill for his pleasure are justified

realmindz:


When being bombarded with series of logical questions, then the Christian apologetics was founded with the idea to find excuses for the ridiculous biblical claims....
This is exactly what you are doing, hiding under excuses in what is obviously a ridiculous claim. Why can't the Bible which is supposedly the perfect book of all time inspired by God himself, the almighty God not get the stories right without the need for complex explanations.

Ok, aside the timinig issue...

After the flood, we had two of every kind of animals left just in one locality.....but we know all animals cannot survive in same environmental conditions...
How did the kangaroo survive under same condition with polar bear?


did the animals start journeying to their different natural habitals all over the world... How did they travel back without no record of their fossils ever found on their way back.? How did they survive?

What did the animals eat? Did the lion eat the zebra?

The concept of years as you know it and refer to it was set around the 14th century AD. The Gregorian Calendar. I do not see how you read a book that spans thousand of years, starting with oral tradition and you expect the terms and lexicon to be exactly what you use today. Am not sure what perfection means to you, the story is true. As for the language used in telling the story, you must treat it in archeological context.

As for what animals ate, or movement if animals. I have addressed those in earlier posts. Have you factored continental drifts into your equations. The island of Mauritius has such strange species, yet so close to the east coast of Africa.

Records of fossils of various animals in translocation abound. What is missing is the proper timing if these events. Question is was the lion then exactly like the lion today that eats zebras?

Lenny9000:


In all my years on Naira land, this is the Longest post I have ever read. I can't believe that I actually read everything. Very insightful, interesting and informative. Did you write everything yourself or just a post from a blog? Anyway thanks for posting this.
God bless

Thank you my brother... The post is from a blog, the link is at the end of the post...

aytuns:


When ever I read pieces like this, I'm joyful in my spirit.. Lovely exposition. Lovely message

Thank u my brother.

"The WOMAN' SEED is Jesus ”

Chai! See ignorance

He was a seed to woman and in talking about even john the baptist and other humans, he used the word "of all that are born of women"
Why didn't he say “Amongst we born of women”.
Mtcheeww!! Stinking crap.

GerogeI:


The concept of years as you know it and refer to it was set around the 14th century AD. The Gregorian Calendar. I do not see how you read a book that spans thousand of years, starting with oral tradition and you expect the terms and lexicon to be exactly what you use today. Am not sure what perfection means to you, the story is true. As for the language used in telling the story, you must treat it in archeological context.

As for what animals ate, or movement if animals. I have addressed those in earlier posts. Have you factored continental drifts into your equations. The island of Mauritius has such strange species, yet so close to the east coast of Africa.

Records of fossils of various animals in translocation abound. What is missing is the proper timing if these events. Question is was the lion then exactly like the lion today that eats zebras?

You guys need to get it right with the timing and years, history books got theirs right, why can't the Bible. The Egyptian Torah got theirs right. It seems u guys are deliberately hiding under time excuses....if you people can get the timing right, then the Bible is of no use then


you are going too far with your theories.

Are u saying continental drift was responsible for the dispersion of anmilas across the world.

We are talking of a flood that kept the whole animals in a single locality, polar bears and kangaroos in same condition and continental drift was responsible for their dispersion??


Talking of continental drift, we are talking of millions of years.

dazzlingd:


After the flood, Noah's family produced two black kids, male and female... Then gbam they travelled to Africa to beget the billions of people in afrca today.
Then again the produced two Indian kids that trekked to India ..gbagam!

Then the produced two Chinese kids that travelled to China, to start producing Chinese race... Gbagam

Same for Arabs, Europeans, Kenyans, Koreans, Latinos, Fulani etc...

And immediately all of them got to their respective locations, their memories were erased to remember their origin...they did not even mention it in their histories where they came from.. The Egyptians with records over thousand of years did not record it, the Chinese dynasty did not mention it. We all needed the Bible to remind us.

To defend mumu story no easy... Well done sir

That is our account and I believe it.

Unlike the your people acount and I came from a tadpole.

realmindz:

You guys need to get it right with the timing and years, history books got theirs right, why can't the Bible. The Egyptian Torah got theirs right. It seems u guys are deliberately hiding under time excuses....if you people can get the timing right, then the Bible is of no use then


you are going too far with your theories.

Are u saying continental drift was responsible for the dispersion of anmilas across the world.

We are talking of a flood that kept the whole animals in a single locality, polar bears and kangaroos in same condition and continental drift was responsible for their dispersion??


Talking of continental drift, we are talking of millions of years.

Wonderfully......
If you can tell us the history of ur lineage 20 generations down, their foremost origins, how they migrated and where their settlements were till this present time, I'll provide worthy answers to your questions.

realmindz:


At the bolded, I don't seem to understand. That's if you understood what you meant.

The whole premise of the arguments here to disprove Noah, has been to show how impossible it is. My simple approach is to show you the skimmers of possibility, not that am telling exactly how it happens cause I was not there.

My point is the flood killed land animals, not water animals. Water dwelling animals would increase in population if a flood took over all land. As water recede, they will be trapped in puddles an land and a source of food for land animals.

Well the idiot I was replying had implied that salt water does not mix with fresh water, so no possibility of such puddles. That's kindergartens' science. I explained that it does, and will result in salt water of lower salinity where some marine animals can survive.

GerogeI:


The concept of years as you know it and refer to it was set around the 14th century AD. The Gregorian Calendar. I do not see how you read a book that spans thousand of years, starting with oral tradition and you expect the terms and lexicon to be exactly what you use today. Am not sure what perfection means to you, the story is true. As for the language used in telling the story, you must treat it in archeological context.

As for what animals ate, or movement if animals. I have addressed those in earlier posts. Have you factored continental drifts into your equations. The island of Mauritius has such strange species, yet so close to the east coast of Africa.

Records of fossils of various animals in translocation abound. What is missing is the proper timing if these events. Question is was the lion then exactly like the lion today that eats zebras?

Let me help with this issue of timing once and for all, once we get it right, we can continue.

The Bible gave the genealogy of Jesus Christ from the first man to Jesus... From Jesus till date is about 2000 years..


Adam to Jesus was about 60 generations which amounts to about 6000 years at the MOST. meaning from Adam to us at the most is less than 8 thousand years.

So Noah to our generation definitely less than 8k years


Then u can have you appropriate timing.

You are the same guy who spoke of genetic optimisation, so tell me what amount of genetic optimisation, continental drift, scientific theory, algorithm could have derived all these variations and answer all these doubts. Please answer sincerely

GerogeI:



The whole premise of the arguments here to disprove Noah, has been to show how impossible it is. My simple approach is to show you the skimmers of possibility, not that am telling exactly how it happens cause I was not there.

My point is the flood killed land animals, not water animals. Water dwelling animals would increase in population if a flood took over all land. As water recede, they will be trapped in puddles an land and a source of food for land animals.

Well the idiot I was replying had implied that salt water does not mix with fresh water, so no possibility of such puddles. That's kindergartens' science. I explained that it does, and will result in salt water of lower salinity where some marine animals can survive.

Salt water mixing with fresh water will happen when the entire world becomes flooded, that will weaken your argument as to the fact that aquatic animals can't survive under same habitat..... Also density and water pressure will change with increase in volume and variation of salinity and temperature.
meaning, many aquatic animals will die and probably go into extinction


I like the way you present your theories though, I wish many religious folks can come up like this.

ArchAngelos999:


i don't see why you think it's wrong that satan thought messiah will come from abel

salvation is the original plan. salvation is more than escaping hell. it is being brought into divinity. why do you think Adam was offered the tree of life in the garden? Christ is the life. The tree of life is not mango tree. It is Christ. to say salvation is not the original plan is to say God is plan b because God himself is salvation.

the lamb was slain before creation

Revelation 13:8
[8]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

not in the mood for an argument right now but I'll give you something to chill with... When was it that God the father asked a question in heaven and there was a great silence before Christ answered and said "Father send me"....? Was it before the creation or after the law of Moses?

And don't forget what prompted that someone should go...

And don't forget the comment "my people are dying out of ignorance"

With your many claims of being spiritual you should be able to put all that together in one sentence

Adakintroy:


That is our account and I believe it.

Unlike the your people acount and I came from a tadpole.

Science is trying it's best to explain our origin, those are the real MVP's...people searching for our answers using available evidences and clues, science does not boast to have gotten it right...
It's a wrong idea to stick to what you have been thought to believe without questioning or digging for further truth. That science hasn't gotten the full facts about our origin doesn't make religion the correct version.... So far, science is still the best means to answers of our origin and still work in progress.

At first, we knew only of our flat world. Over the years with the help of science, we can now say our world is spherical, we talk of other planets, talk of other solar systems ,galaxies and the universe... We have been able to predict ages of rocks, able to dig underground... Able to prove that human life has been in existence over 200,000 years ago, we have been able to study of genes, medical sciences have improved, while a part of science is tracing our origin, another part is moving us forward to the future to solve our immediate problems and create a more advanced future using same pracrical approach.

No one said you originated from tadpoles, but we now know how a sperm and egg looks like, we can now write the empirical formula of compounds and create new compounds, we can now blend materials to produce new nate

Adakintroy:


That is our account and I believe it.

Unlike the your people acount and I came from a tadpole.

Science is trying it's best to explain our origin, those are the real MVP's...people searching for our answers using available evidences and clues, science does not boast to have gotten it right...
It's a wrong idea to stick to what you have been thought to believe without questioning or digging for further truth. That science hasn't gotten the full facts about our origin doesn't make religion the correct version.... So far, science is still the best means to answers of our origin and still work in progress.

At first, we knew only of our flat world. Over the years with the help of science, we can now say our world is spherical, we talk of other planets, talk of other solar systems ,galaxies and the universe... We have been able to predict ages of rocks, able to dig underground... Able to prove that human life has been in existence over 200,000 years ago, we have been able to study of genes, medical sciences have improved, while a part of science is tracing our origin, another part is moving us forward to the future to solve our immediate problems and create a more advanced future using same pracrical approach.

No one said you originated from tadpoles, but we now know how a sperm and egg looks like, we can now write the empirical formula of compounds and create new compounds, we can now blend materials to produce new materials of better quality...

alBHAGDADI:


Your last sentence is wrong. Jesus was already planned to come and die for us even before the world was created.

Revelation 13:8 (KJV)
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

1 Peter 1:19-20 (KJV)
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

not in the mood for an argument right now but I'll give you something to chill with... When was it that God the father asked a question in heaven and there was a great silence before Christ answered and said "Father send me"....? Was it before the creation or after the law of Moses?

And don't forget what prompted that someone should go...

And don't forget the comment "my people are dying out of ignorance"

With your many claims of being spiritual you should be able to put all that together in one sentence

KendrickAyomide:
what i want to know was how Noah brought Flies, Mosquitoes and Butterflies on the ark
Or how he brought Polar Bears from Antarctica, the Sumatran Tiger from Indonesia? What about those animals that are only found in countries like Australia, South America e.t.c

Very simple. God brought them to him.

realmindz:

You guys need to get it right with the timing and years, history books got theirs right, why can't the Bible. The Egyptian Torah got theirs right. It seems u guys are deliberately hiding under time excuses....if you people can get the timing right, then the Bible is of no use then


you are going too far with your theories.

Are u saying continental drift was responsible for the dispersion of anmilas across the world.

We are talking of a flood that kept the whole animals in a single locality, polar bears and kangaroos in same condition and continental drift was responsible for their dispersion??


Talking of continental drift, we are talking of millions of years.

Plate tectonics is an ongoing phenomenon that is going on as we speak. I have not implied the drifts alone are responsible for spreading of animals. I only said it is a factor that creates or encourages drastic differentiations as in the case of Mauritius or the case of tropical fossils being found on rock in temperate waters of the British Isles.


Time is a lot in all this conversation. The last Ice age could easily be postulated to be Noah's flood event, and it happened 22,000 years ago, not millions of years ago. Further, in the perspective of special Relativity, our current concepts of time and dating are questionable. For example, the universe is expanding, meaning the orbits are larger. More importantly, the moon has been slowing down the earth. If Einsteins theory on time and velocity is correct, I can suppose that the earths velocity around the sun could not have always been the same. That also means that time experience of people on earth in the past differs from time experience now. So time itself is a variable in all this discussions.

mrZENographer:


Very simple. God brought them to him.

Stupidest reply ever

driand:
not in the mood for an argument right now but I'll give you something to chill with... When was it that God the father asked a question in heaven and there was a great silence before Christ answered and said "Father send me"....? Was it before the creation or after the law of Moses?

And don't forget what prompted that someone should go...

And don't forget the comment "my people are dying out of ignorance"

With your many claims of being spiritual you should be able to put all that together in one sentence

your idea is based on hearsay, you won't find such scene in the Bible. reference it if you can. even if it were to be true, which it isn't, it doesn't negate the fact that God foreknew it

what does people dying out of ignorance have to do with this matter?

bixton:


Wonderfully......
If you can tell us the history of ur lineage 20 generations down, their foremost origins, how they migrated and where their settlements were till this present time, I'll provide worthy answers to your questions.

Excuse me, so if I cant tell you, then that makes your version right.....? You don't know your dad and I present to you a Japanese man as your dad, you just accept because u don't know who your dad is.....

You don't have to gainsay my argument, stop the red herring and scrutinize the stories that have been blindly sold to you

realmindz:



Excuse me, so if I cant tell you, then that makes your version right.....? You don't know your dad and I present to you a Japanese man as your dad, you just accept because u don't know who your dad is.....

You don't have to gainsay my argument, stop the red herring and scrutinize the stories that have been blindly sold to you

I thought as much that would be your response.

GerogeI:


Plate tectonics is an ongoing phenomenon that is going on as we speak. I have not implied the drifts alone are responsible for spreading of animals. I only said it is a factor that creates or encourages drastic differentiations as in the case of Mauritius or the case of tropical fossils being found on rock in temperate waters of the British Isles.


Time is a lot in all this conversation. The last Ice age could easily be postulated to be Noah's flood event, and it happened 22,000 years ago, not millions of years ago. Further, in the perspective of special Relativity, our current concepts of time and dating are questionable. For example, the universe is expanding, meaning the orbits are larger. More importantly, the moon has been slowing down the earth. If Einsteins theory on time and velocity is correct, I can suppose that the earths velocity around the sun could not have always been the same. That also means that time experience of people on earth in the past differs from time experience now. So time itself is a variable in all this discussions.

I've replied you with a break down of the time being less than 8k years..

The expansion of the universe resulting in velocity difference, distances, time relativity... Etc, these factors don't make significant impacts in millons of years...so it's safe to say those are negligible factors considering events that happen even in the last 20 thousand years... We can dispense with them.

bixton:


I thought as much that would be your response.

Simple and straight forward.... Prove what you are selling

KendrickAyomide:
Stupidest reply ever

Elijah decreed famine for 3 and half years

God told Elijah to hide himself from King Ahab in the Brook by Jordan and said, I have commanded the Ravens to give you food day and night. God sent Ravens to feed Elijah day and night. 1 Kings 17

This also sounds foolish to you?

driand:
not in the mood for an argument right now but I'll give you something to chill with... When was it that God the father asked a question in heaven and there was a great silence before Christ answered and said "Father send me"....? Was it before the creation or after the law of Moses?

And don't forget what prompted that someone should go...

And don't forget the comment "my people are dying out of ignorance"

With your many claims of being spiritual you should be able to put all that together in one sentence

That was Isaiah who answered, not Jesus

Isaiah 6:8
Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

bixton:



How did you arrive at the bold?

Are u joking or what, when they talk of the sky like a window, and four corners of the earth with foundation, what were u thinking.? Or separating the firmament from the earth, the upper region called heaven and lower part called Earth. Or somebody telling the sun to stand still as if the sun revolves round the earth.
The popular belief that time was that the earth was flat and center of the universe until one man came and said otherwise and you christians killed him for heresy.
Don't you know this?

Lordave:
But he hardened the heart of Pharoa.


Bible is just shít admit it and be free.

Thats is why God is great!
The same God that hardened the heart of Pharaoh because of Israelites was the same God that destroyed them when they disobeyed Him and exalted other Gods above Him.

You see when it comes to God Almighty whom I serve. He does as He pleases and no one can take that away from Him.

His greatness or how He does cant be questioned cos He owes no man explanation for what He does. He knows all things and knows the end from the beginning

Barrywest:

Wow, This answer has renewed my faith....
You have a sound mind.

May the fire never be quenched! Amen

Tejiriseth:
Yes you are very correct.
you have to have the mind of a toddler..
Of a Child to believe Such stories. Such fair tales
You are very correct.
.
Just take a trip to those places mentiond in the Bible and see If they even take it serious
.
Evidence and reasoning makes us believe things without seeing..
We have bones of Dinosaurs..
Bombs and machines from world war.
Structures from ancient Egypt and Rome..
Yet the only claim for everything in the bible, is actually the bible..
How Laughable.
.

Let them watch biblical evidences on youtube, I bet they will believe. I have watched many videos of excavations by Archeologists which showed that these sites existed

And not only that, I have also experienced Jesus and seen the hand of God in situations to know that the Holy bible is real!