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Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jun 28, 2019
helinues:
See as how everybody is avoiding you like plagues..
That speaks much more of you
Am my own self , I Don't follow because others do.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Arda1000(m): 4:31pm On Jun 28, 2019
Juliusmalema:
Whatever you learnt lives and die with you that's all, it doesn't affect me in ayway.

But my concern remains that Kanu is a terrorist as far as hee doesn't study his map and regions well to know his boundaries then he is a criminal.
if I had doubts about u being Igbo it's now cleared..what a senseless comment...N.k terrorist? and his going to places u can't even dear to go,
Stupidity will not kill u.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 4:48pm On Jun 28, 2019
Yyeske:
The bolded you quoted was rude to his family and people
But, it is the truth. Isaac Boro was shot at the back By Danjuma the blind bat
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 4:51pm On Jun 28, 2019
gwarotango:
I was referring to you and I can't care if his father is from Mali
If his father is not from Igbo, why then did Igbo people receive all the killings in 1966 pogrom?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op):
uckennety:
But is he not an igbo dude
He is Igbo. His name is Chinedu but he hates Biafra and Igbo people
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Tajbol4splend(m): 5:07pm On Jun 28, 2019
uckennety:
Oga write what you know about

How do you say he formed Biafra without consulting people there is!

The video is on YouTube

He called an emergency meeting all minority groups were invited, he brought up the topic and they said let them go home n think about it

They all came back and decide that they wanted Biafra (the name was derived from the bight of Biafra now called bight of Bonny) that day the currency the Biafran pounds was introduced

If I'm lying why was the original amayinabo of Kalabari deposed and almost killed if not for his support for Biafra as he rallied militia for attack on Nigerian troops
Google is your friends

All this online champions it's heartbreaking that you either grow up believing the biased doctrine your parents raised you with and as an adult can't sit and think!

I'm igbo and there is an adage that says- I can't hear it's 7 and just put it in my pocket I must count it








The minority groups where in support some made of about 10% of the total troop number

The problem started when the Biafra troops started retreated from ore which means the belief and trust that igbo will win was in doubt
And the saw 1st hand what Nigerian troops does to Biafran sympathizers
Nigerian troops were closing from calabar ojoja side do you expect them to say hey am Biafran
(people must survive)

Then as the blockade was imposed from bakassi (all hope was lost) that was even when the retreat from ore started

Then suddenly we saw the educated minority and fellow igbo men trying to make a name out of the war

People like elechi Amadi and Ken saro wiwa immerged as the became tools for the Nigerian government to still up division while in return the will have fame and wealth

If I start typing I don't if nairaland will be enough to contain it

Quote me without making researches I'll ignore you
1. First off, I don't know how old you are but you are extremely rude and weak, it's not like you know me, if there is something you don't like about my post, why don't you ignore it.

2. And then stop talking like you were there, Ojukwu was a dictator and tyrant in the making but most of you won't see it, he fled with his family leaving the Igbos in the hands of their predatory counterparts, but what you do remember is that he consulted someone, please tell me whom he consulted. The anger in Ojukwu was understandable but his approach was stupid, he was supposed to use the law, Nigeria would have given him that with the right approach, but what did he do, he kept his family in the safest of places and sent the Biafra soldiers to their grave, so many countries have seceded, Czechoslovakia used to be a country but today we have both Czech Republic and Slovakia, what of Yugoslavia that broke into Serbia and Montenegro, today we have Serbia as a country and Montenegro also as one. Ojukwu was taking the wrong step to the right cause, nobody does that and succeeds, I respect Ojukwu for his bravery but wisdom supersedes everything, look at the man who relinquished to save lives, if he didn't, how many more lives would have been lost, I hope you can also consult google to read Ojukwu's comment expressing his regret about the war, peace bro.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 5:44pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
1. First off, I don't know how old you are but you are extremely rude and weak, it's not like you know me, if there is something you don't like about my post, why don't you ignore it.

2. And then stop talking like you were there, Ojukwu was a dictator and tyrant in the making but most of you won't see it, he fled with his family leaving the Igbos in the hands of their predatory counterparts, but what you do remember is that he consulted someone, please tell me whom he consulted. The anger in Ojukwu was understandable but his approach was stupid, he was supposed to use the law, Nigeria would have given him that with the right approach, but what did he do, he kept his family in the safest of places and sent the Biafra soldiers to their grave, so many countries have seceded, Czechoslovakia used to be a country but today we have both Czech Republic and Slovakia, what of Yugoslavia that broke into Serbia and Montenegro, today we have Serbia as a country and Montenegro also as one. Ojukwu was taking the wrong step to the right cause, nobody does that and succeeds, I respect Ojukwu for his bravery but wisdom supersedes everything, look at the man who relinquished to save lives, if he didn't, how many more lives would have been lost, I hope you can also consult google to read Ojukwu's comment expressing his regret about the war, peace bro.
I stopped reading your junk when I saw "Used the law" Use the law in military era?? Could Gowon keep the Aburi Accord ? talk more of using Nigerian law to fight Nigeria. You are funny
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by goodnessme1(f): 5:46pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
1. First off, I don't know how old you are but you are extremely rude and weak, it's not like you know me, if there is something you don't like about my post, why don't you ignore it.

2. And then stop talking like you were there, Ojukwu was a dictator and tyrant in the making but most of you won't see it, he fled with his family leaving the Igbos in the hands of their predatory counterparts, but what you do remember is that he consulted someone, please tell me whom he consulted. The anger in Ojukwu was understandable but his approach was stupid, he was supposed to use the law, Nigeria would have given him that with the right approach, but what did he do, he kept his family in the safest of places and sent the Biafra soldiers to their grave, so many countries have seceded, Czechoslovakia used to be a country but today we have both Czech Republic and Slovakia, what of Yugoslavia that broke into Serbia and Montenegro, today we have Serbia as a country and Montenegro also as one. Ojukwu was taking the wrong step to the right cause, nobody does that and succeeds, I respect Ojukwu for his bravery but wisdom supersedes everything, look at the man who relinquished to save lives, if he didn't, how many more lives would have been lost, I hope you can also consult google to read Ojukwu's comment expressing his regret about the war, peace bro.
all you do is just contradicting yourself.



Someone asked you,if you are in Ojukwu's position as a military governor what will you do?

What will you do?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by uckennety(m): 5:46pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
1. First off, I don't know how old you are but you are extremely rude and weak, it's not like you know me, if there is something you don't like about my post, why don't you ignore it.

2. And then stop talking like you were there, Ojukwu was a dictator and tyrant in the making but most of you won't see it, he fled with his family leaving the Igbos in the hands of their predatory counterparts, but what you do remember is that he consulted someone, please tell me whom he consulted. The anger in Ojukwu was understandable but his approach was stupid, he was supposed to use the law, Nigeria would have given him that with the right approach, but what did he do, he kept his family in the safest of places and sent the Biafra soldiers to their grave, so many countries have seceded, Czechoslovakia used to be a country but today we have both Czech Republic and Slovakia, what of Yugoslavia that broke into Serbia and Montenegro, today we have Serbia as a country and Montenegro also as one. Ojukwu was taking the wrong step to the right cause, nobody does that and succeeds, I respect Ojukwu for his bravery but wisdom supersedes everything, look at the man who relinquished to save lives, if he didn't, how many more lives would have been lost, I hope you can also consult google to read Ojukwu's comment expressing his regret about the war, peace bro.
Oga it's obvious you don't know what your saying

Ojukwu had only one brother and he died during the war he was a medical doctor


You make me laugh when I read am weak
You made me reserve my comment when you said m rude

Biko make your researches google n YouTube is your friend

If your blind pls don't blind others

Your asking if I was there

O yes I was there with the great Hannibal of asaba RIP
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Nobody: 7:29pm On Jun 28, 2019
Arda1000:
if I had doubts about u being Igbo it's now cleared..what a senseless comment...N.k terrorist? and his going to places u can't even dear to go,
Stupidity will not kill u.
What an unconditioned write up...

what nonsense.....

So u encourage terrorism....infact

Are u an Igbo man if I may even ask?

which state are u from?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Tajbol4splend(m): 7:54pm On Jun 28, 2019
goodnessme1:
all you do is just contradicting yourself.



Someone asked you,if you are in Ojukwu's position as a military governor what will you do?

What will you do?
Stop saying what you don't know, there's nowhere in the post where he asked me what I would do, so mummy get your facts right
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Tajbol4splend(m): 8:08pm On Jun 28, 2019
Donald95:
I stopped reading your junk when I saw "Used the law" Use the law in military era?? Could Gowon keep the Aburi Accord ? talk more of using Nigerian law to fight Nigeria. You are funny
What you may not understand is that even the most tyrannical government can't stay above law in a critical situation, if Ojukwu was tactful in his approach, he might have the backing of the world leaders which could be difficult for the then Nigerian government
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 8:22pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
What you may not understand is that even the most tyrannical government can't stay above law in a critical situation, if Ojukwu was tactful in his approach, he might have the backing of the world leaders which could be difficult for the then Nigerian government
What tactical are you talking about? Don't worry, I may open a thread about Aburi Accord and what gave nigeria the impetus to flaunt it.

The thing is that Nigeria had the backing of the British and There is this strong bond between USA and Britain. So, whenever Brits is involved, USA will either stay off or fall in line.

Another thing is that British oil company were having problem with Ojukwu because of his stubbornness to allow them thief oil without regulation
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Arda1000(m): 8:29pm On Jun 28, 2019
Juliusmalema:
What an unconditioned write up...
what nonsense.....
So u encourage terrorism....infact
Are u an Igbo man if I may even ask?
which state are u from?
do u even know the meaning of terrorism?

Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Tajbol4splend(m): 8:31pm On Jun 28, 2019
Donald95:
What tactical are you talking about? Don't worry, I may open a thread about Aburi Accord and what gave nigeria the impetus to flaunt it.

The thing is that Nigeria had the backing of the British and There is this strong bond between USA and Britain. So, whenever Brits is involved, USA will either stay off or fall in line.

Another thing is that British oil company were having problem with Ojukwu because of his stubbornness to allow them thief oil without regulation
I didn't know Ojukwu had any jurisdiction on Nigeria oil resources, so they supported the other leaders because they were allowing them thief the oil without regulation, huh, well.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jun 28, 2019
Donald95:
No, he is not Nigerian. He is from SA
Noted right from SA, you, Abia and terrorist kanu should stare clear of anambra state.

We no longer on same page with you guys. Infact we have serious engagement on national grid with buhari and we are not pdp in anyway.

So as you can see ipob can drive their madness to another place.


Malema writes from SA.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 8:31pm On Jun 28, 2019
Arda1000:
do u even know the meaning of terrorism?
He doesn't,
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Nobody: 8:34pm On Jun 28, 2019
Arda1000:
do u even know the meaning of terrorism?
Balderdash
Off trajectory...

Which state are you from since you Igbo?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by goodnessme1(f): 8:35pm On Jun 28, 2019
am not dumb down is the question from the guy to you.,


what will you do if you are in Ojukwu's shoe as the military
head and your people is been massacre.





Tajbol4splend: Innocent? Did you read
the article at all? Perhaps
you read it but couldn't
skim the gist. The Igbos
were the ones that
started it by killing the northern leaders and then
the northerners too
retaliated and brutalized
the Igbos residing in the
north, but the northern
leaders had edge because they were in power. Ojukwu might be right
about how wrong the
Nigerian government was
operating with decree but
he was wrong about how
he wanted to go about the secession, Biafra was
supposedly the 5 SE and
some parts of the SS,
Ojukwu didn't make any
deliberation with leaders
of these other states but by decree, he brought
Biafra, it was apparently
illegal, even Ojukwu being
the President of Biafra
was by his command and
decree and not by popular vote, when the situation
was beyond his control, he
handed power over to his
deputy and fled with his
family, what about the
Igbos that sacrificed their blood in the war, what did
Ojukwu do to compensate
their families, nothing.
Ojukwu was right to be
angry but he exercised his
anger wrongly, in a way that made him guilty. I
know you are an Igbo but
try for once to analyze the
situation with an
unbiased mind



I don't support inclusion of
people that does not want
to belong and also, Their
was meeting in Enugu
where every chief of every
tribe was invited and they all told Ojukwu to go ahead



Let me ask, You as a Military
governor, what would you
have done if you are the
military governor and your
people are being massacred
in front of you?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Tajbol4splend(m): 8:52pm On Jun 28, 2019
goodnessme1:
am not dumb down is the question from the guy to you.,


what will you do if you are in Ojukwu's shoe as the military
head and your people is been massacre.





Tajbol4splend: Innocent? Did you read
the article at all? Perhaps
you read it but couldn't
skim the gist. The Igbos
were the ones that
started it by killing the northern leaders and then
the northerners too
retaliated and brutalized
the Igbos residing in the
north, but the northern
leaders had edge because they were in power. Ojukwu might be right
about how wrong the
Nigerian government was
operating with decree but
he was wrong about how
he wanted to go about the secession, Biafra was
supposedly the 5 SE and
some parts of the SS,
Ojukwu didn't make any
deliberation with leaders
of these other states but by decree, he brought
Biafra, it was apparently
illegal, even Ojukwu being
the President of Biafra
was by his command and
decree and not by popular vote, when the situation
was beyond his control, he
handed power over to his
deputy and fled with his
family, what about the
Igbos that sacrificed their blood in the war, what did
Ojukwu do to compensate
their families, nothing.
Ojukwu was right to be
angry but he exercised his
anger wrongly, in a way that made him guilty. I
know you are an Igbo but
try for once to analyze the
situation with an
unbiased mind



I don't support inclusion of
people that does not want
to belong and also, Their
was meeting in Enugu
where every chief of every
tribe was invited and they all told Ojukwu to go ahead



Let me ask, You as a Military
governor, what would you
have done if you are the
military governor and your
people are being massacred
in front of you?
He wasn't demanding answer but I would answer you.

Of course I would not love it and I would be vengeful in my response but if the conflict had been started by my people, I would find a way to put it to bed. So I want you to answer this too,

If you are a leader of a group of people and these people have gone to massacre the leaders of some other people and these people retaliate and kill some of your people, what would you do?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by leokid866: 8:53pm On Jun 28, 2019
Donald95:
What tactical are you talking about? Don't worry, I may open a thread about Aburi Accord and what gave nigeria the impetus to flaunt it.

The thing is that Nigeria had the backing of the British and There is this strong bond between USA and Britain. So, whenever Brits is involved, USA will either stay off or fall in line.

Another thing is that British oil company were having problem with Ojukwu because of his stubbornness to allow them thief oil without regulation
Boss the only reason the british and the United states backed Nigeria is because they had a long standing and structured army unlike ojukwu who put his together overnight. Truly ask yourself if you had to choose someone with 5 years experience and someone of 5 seconds experience to work with you who are you going to pick? The only reason the French and Russians backed him was because he was selling oil to them cheaper than Nigeria was. And they were smart pulled out when they saw ojukwu was getting nowhere.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by goodnessme1(f): 9:00pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
He wasn't demanding answer but I would answer you.

Of course I would not love it and I would be vengeful in my response but if the conflict had been started by my people, I would find a way to put it to bed. So I want you to answer this too,

If you are a leader of a group of people and these people have gone to massacre the leaders of some other people and these people retaliate and kill some of your people, what would you do?
you haven't answer my question.how will you put the problem to bed??




I will answer yours when you are done with mine.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by CyynthiaKiss(f): 9:05pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
He wasn't demanding answer but I would answer you.

Of course I would not love it and I would be vengeful in my response but if the conflict had been started by my people, I would find a way to put it to bed. So I want you to answer this too,

[s]If you are a leader of a group of people and these people have gone to massacre the leaders of some other people and these people retaliate and kill some of your people, what would you do? [/s]
What would you do or how would you feel if God start punishing you for the sins of your parents ?

You are killing the innocent masses because of what happened among the elites.. How would the innocent civilians on the street bebefit if their brother is in power ?
Why didn't the Kastina state military officers kills Niger state civilians for removing their Son through the coup in 1985 ?...Have you seen how dumb you sound ?...



Cowardice is when you left your political enemy and transferred your frustration on civilians who have no business with your political rivalry..
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by leokid866: 9:05pm On Jun 28, 2019
Donald95:
What tactical are you talking about? Don't worry, I may open a thread about Aburi Accord and what gave nigeria the impetus to flaunt it.

The thing is that Nigeria had the backing of the British and There is this strong bond between USA and Britain. So, whenever Brits is involved, USA will either stay off or fall in line.

Another thing is that British oil company were having problem with Ojukwu because of his stubbornness to allow them thief oil without regulation
Also if you are going to go to war [and let's be frank with ourselves ojukwu knew what was coming after he declared biafra] go and be a bad guy and let the world know not to f*ck with you, and if you lose take your L and not be hiding behind some accord. You think the south did not have agreements with the north before they decided to secede sparking the American Civil War?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by goodnessme1(f): 9:10pm On Jun 28, 2019
leokid866:
Also if you are going to go to war [and let's be frank with ourselves ojukwu knew what was coming after he declared biafra] go and be a bad guy and let the world know not to f*ck with you, and if you lose take your L and not be hiding behind some accord. You think the south did not have agreements with the north before they decided to secede sparking the American Civil War?
but if it was igbos that disobeyed the accord,it will always be a topic for you guys how igbos destroyed this and that.


Is that not Hypocrisy?
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Tajbol4splend(m): 9:10pm On Jun 28, 2019
goodnessme1:
you haven't answer my question.how will you put the problem to bed??




I will answer yours when you are done with mine.
Of course call them off, he was the one that prepared and trained them for the war
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 9:11pm On Jun 28, 2019
leokid866:
Boss the only reason the british and the United states backed Nigeria is because they had a long standing and structured army unlike ojukwu who put his together overnight. Truly ask yourself if you had to choose someone with 5 years experience and someone of 5 seconds experience to work with you who are you going to pick? The only reason the French and Russians backed him was because he was selling oil to them cheaper than Nigeria was. And they were smart pulled out when they saw ojukwu was getting nowhere.
1.Trust me, Biafra Army were more organized than Nigeria soldiers that believes that number means strength. And also, they don't need to send military B4 we know they are supporting. Just one order from USA will do alot but, the thing is that Brits are with Nigeria

2. Russia was still in USSR and they backed Nigeria. France backed Biafra through Gabon because they where trying to expand it's colonial territory in Africa not cheaper price of oil. USA didn't back Nigeria, they just looked the other way. British supported Nigeria in all angle.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by CyynthiaKiss(f): 9:14pm On Jun 28, 2019
leokid866:
Boss the only reason the british and the United states backed Nigeria is because they had a long standing and structured army unlike ojukwu who put his together overnight. Truly ask yourself if you had to choose someone with 5 years experience and someone of 5 seconds experience to work with you who are you going to pick? The only reason the French and Russians backed him was because he was selling oil to them cheaper than Nigeria was. And they were smart pulled out when they saw ojukwu was getting nowhere.
United States never backed Nigeria.
Russia never backed Biafra..
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 9:15pm On Jun 28, 2019
Tajbol4splend:
He wasn't demanding answer but I would answer you.

Of course I would not love it and I would be vengeful in my response but if the conflict had been started by my people, I would find a way to put it to bed. So I want you to answer this too,

If you are a leader of a group of people and these people have gone to massacre the leaders of some other people and these people retaliate and kill some of your people, what would you do?
Nzeogwu never killed people on the street trying to do business. Go and read about 1966 pogrom. What does those poor women, men and children have to do Nzeogwu and Gowon??
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by Donald95(op): 9:22pm On Jun 28, 2019
leokid866:
Also if you are going to go to war [and let's be frank with ourselves ojukwu knew what was coming after he declared biafra] go and be a bad guy and let the world know not to f*ck with you, and if you lose take your L and not be hiding behind some accord. You think the south did not have agreements with the north before they decided to secede sparking the American Civil War?
Brother, the Accord was B4 the war 5 January 1967. No one is blaming the loss on Aburi. But rather, Gowon didn't keep his part of the bargain which subsequently led to the war
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by leokid866: 9:24pm On Jun 28, 2019
CyynthiaKiss:
United States never backed Nigeria.
Russia never backed Biafra..
Sorry meant Germany. But the US did support Nigeria.
Re: History : True Cause Of The Civil War by leokid866: 9:28pm On Jun 28, 2019
Donald95:
Brother, the Accord was B4 the war 5 January 1967. No one is blaming the loss on Aburi. But rather, Gowon didn't keep his part of the bargain which subsequently led to the war
Truth is both sides flaunted that Accord. Let's tell ourselves the truth each side had a part to play in that matter, nobody hand clean.
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