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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Chibuzoc(m): 12:10pm On Jun 27, 2019
oyatz:
You are making the same mistake by comparing independence from a colonial empire with secession from a sovereign country.


Do you know what the same British did to the Irish People for daring to seceed after almost 8 centuries of subjugation, annexation and assimilation?


No Country willingly and openly support it's own break-up by granting the demand of a pressure group.









IPOB is not a pressure group but freedom fighters and the know there game than you do. If USSR could be dissolved then Nigeria na child's play

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Nobody: 12:14pm On Jun 27, 2019
A dumb yoloba asked me why I believe in biafra and I said YOU HAVEN'T SEEN HEAVEN BUT YOU BELIEVE IN IT, YOU WORK YOUR ASS UP TO DO THINGS THAT WILL GET YPU THERE BIAFRA IS VALHALLA

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by kingzizzy: 12:23pm On Jun 27, 2019
oyatz:
This your last post clearly showed that your understanding of the issues at stake is very shallow.

1) Nigeria did not seceed from Britian in 1960. British Colonialism was a period of Foreign rule of indigenous people sustained by military might of the colonialists.

It was a foreign occupation which naturally is bound to be resented by the natives and couldn't have lasted forever. The British knew this from the onset.

The Nigeria we are talking about was created by the British. If it were not for them, nobody would be a Nigerian today. Be that as it may, the British recognised the right of indigenous ethnic nations that make up Nigeria, to determine if they want to remain part of the British empire or become an independent country. But when you ask a Nigerian to recognise the right of the Igbo nation to be an independent country, the same Nigerian will start calling for python dance and proscription. Nnamdi Kanu and his group want referendum, which is the direct opposite of secession

[b]2) The opposition to British rule started almost immediately after the advent of colonial rule with Dr Obasa and prominent educated Yoruba elites forming the first Political party , The Peoples's Union in 1909 to galvanized the natives to demand to self rule.[/quote]

Which is what Nnamdi Kanu and his group are doing. They are galvanising the people to agitate for referendum where they can choose to be independent of Nigeria.

3) Herbert Macaulay and Dr Azikiwe weren't just leaders of pressure groups organizing protests against British rule, they metamorphosed to Political leaders.
They formed Political parties (NNDP in 1922 by Macaulay, NCNC in 1946 by Macaulay, Zik, Adewoyin, Olorunnimbe, Michael Imodu &others), contested and won elections to legitimize their aspirations.

Unlike Herbert Macaulay and Zik who wanted political power as well as independence, Kanu and his group only care about independence and not political power

3) They sought mandates from the peoples (Conference of ethnic groups in 1950 at Ibadan) where demands for self rule was made loud and clear.

Anybody can convene some people from various ethnic groups an make demands of independence, but this means nothing compared to getting millions out on the streets


4) Between 1952-1959, several constitutional conferences were held by the Traditional, elected and Political leaders of all the peoples in Nigeria to reach an agreement on independence.

And some day, IPOB hope's that the political leaders of Nigeria and the national assembly will one day meet and decide to grant the area once known as "The Eastern Region" a referendum that will allow those of them who are tired of Nigeria to go their way

5) The elected Representatives of the colonized peoples became the most vocal campaigners of independence.

In 1953, Hon Tony Enahoro of the Action Group (AG) moved on the floor of the House of REPRESENTATIVES the first motion for the independence of Nigeria by 1956. This didn't go down well with the Northern People's Congress (NPC) members who strongly opposed the motion.

Hon Remilekun Fani-Kayode (the father of FFK) of the Action Group in 1956 moved another motion for independence which again was thwarted by the NPC leadership.

It was after much persuation, horse trading and negotiation with the leaders of the North and the minorities that every body agreed on independence by 1960, hence

Hon SL Akintola of the Action Group finally moved the successful motion for independence in 1959. This was successful.















The Biafran agitators do not want to make the mistake of Nigeria. They dont want to take anyone against their will. Rather than for one or two people to move a motion that will give an area independence, they want the people to directly choose what they want through a referendum. This is far more democratic than what Enahoro did

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 12:23pm On Jun 27, 2019
Chibuzoc:

The world knows that there is freedom to self determination. The world is watching as a Nigerian you choose what you want to hear but me a Biafran knows more than you in what I support just like I was created for this course.
Nice one bro, you can become a Biafran but the world will know and determine if you can be referred to as a Biafran by making it legitimate.
Czechoslovakia, USSR got dissolved because they resolved their differences; Catalonia, Scotland Québec etc still have a choice because there was an agreement to a referendum but Eritrea and South Sudan got theirs through decades of war and destruction because there was no earlier agreement.
So you have a choice here

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by kingzizzy: 1:38pm On Jun 27, 2019
Rolings:


yet people like you were agitating for the bringing back of history in our schools, do you think in the 'history of biafra war' the cause of disaffecction against the igbos will not be taught? it will be not because they are trying to justify the massacre of ibos but because that was what happened, other nigerians didnt just wake up one day and start killing igbos, it was as a result of the 'igbo coup' that killed leaders of other tribes while sparing their own leaders to rule over the rest of Nigerians....IGBONIZATION was the precursor to FULANIZATION & ISLAMIZATION

This is one of the reasons they dont want to teach history, they know that if they do, it will expose the long held lies that the first coup was an "Igbo coup".

Somebody who reads history will like to know the yardstick used to call it an Igbo when Yoruba coup plotters like Ademoyega, Adeleke, Oyewole. What about Nothern participants like Captain Gibson Jalo, Captain Egbiko and Lieutenant Kpera?

By what percentage was the coup Igbo? Youruba? And Hausa? The only time a coup can be called an "Igbo coup" is if it was 100% carried out by Igbos. In this case, it was not.

Nigerians waking up to kill Igbos has been happening long before the so called Igbo coup. It happend in Jos in 1945 and Kano in 1953.


But let us look at an extreme situation. Let take that it was 100% and Igbo coup that killed the leaders of other Regions and spared that from the east. The coup was in January, the massacre of Igbos started about 6 months later

Doesnt it sound strange to you that people will start killing other people for what happend 6 months before?

Assuming a few Yorubas go and kill Governor Ugwuanyi of Enugu state, should Enugu people kill any Yoruba they serve because of what a few did?

Also, doesnt it look suspicious to you Igbos would wait 6 months to to revenge this?

The massacre was not about the coup, it was just because some people dont like the face of Igbos

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by food4tot: 3:13pm On Jun 27, 2019
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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 3:27pm On Jun 27, 2019
kingzizzy:


This is one of the reasons they dont want to teach history, they know that if they do, it will expose the long held lies that the first coup was an "Igbo coup".

Somebody who reads history will like to know the yardstick used to call it an Igbo when Yoruba coup plotters like Ademoyega, Adeleke, Oyewole. What about Nothern participants like Captain Gibson Jalo, Captain Egbiko and Lieutenant Kpera?

By what percentage was the coup Igbo? Youruba? And Hausa? The only time a coup can be called an "Igbo coup" is if it was 100% carried out by Igbos. In this case, it was not.

Nigerians waking up to kill Igbos has been happening long before the so called Igbo coup. It happend in Jos in 1945 and Kano in 1953.


But let us look at an extreme situation. Let take that it was 100% and Igbo coup that killed the leaders of other Regions and spared that from the east. The coup was in January, the massacre of Igbos started about 6 months later

Doesnt it sound strange to you that people will start killing other people for what happend 6 months before?

Assuming a few Yorubas go and kill Governor Ugwuanyi of Enugu state, should Enugu people kill any Yoruba they serve because of what a few did?

Also, doesnt it look suspicious to you Igbos would wait 6 months to to revenge this?

The massacre was not about the coup, it was just because some people dont like the face of Igbos

No justification for the pogrom that followed after the coup in the north but there is a 'but' somewhere.

A coup executed by mostly Igbo officers and mostly leaders from other regions were killed but none from the old eastern region. The coup was said to been carried out to remove corrupt leaders, does it mean there was no corrupt politician from the old Eastern region?

If you were to be from the old Northern or Western region, how would you feel?
I repeat, no justification for the pogrom in the north but put yourself in their position.

We've had reprisal attacks in the SE after some killings of Igbos in the north, why didn't our people just let it go? I remembered that of 2006 in Onitsha vividly.

You killed their leaders and even made fun of it in their faces in '66 and you weren't expecting a backlash?

There is a level you can push someone and he must react.
Still, no justification for any killing of innocent people

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Pearlyakin(m): 3:48pm On Jun 27, 2019
You guys are going no where, we die here grin

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by kingzizzy: 4:00pm On Jun 27, 2019
Yyeske:
No justification for the pogrom that followed after the coup in the north but there is a 'but' somewhere.

A coup executed by mostly Igbo officers and mostly leaders from other regions were killed but none from the old eastern region. The coup was said to been carried out to remove corrupt leaders, does it mean there was no corrupt politician from the old Eastern region?

If you were to be from the old Northern or Western region, how would you feel?
I repeat, no justification for the pogrom in the north but put yourself in their position.

We've had reprisal attacks in the SE after some killings of Igbos in the north, why didn't our people just let it go? I remembered that of 2006 in Onitsha vividly.

You killed their leaders and even made fun of it in their faces in '66 and you weren't expecting a backlash?

There is a level you can push someone and he must react.
Still, no justification for any killing of innocent people

Jos 1945, Igbo were slaughtered in their hundreds by Notherners. Igbos did not kill any Northerner in the Eastern Region

Kano 1953, the same thing, Igbos did not retaliate

Even as they slaughtered thousands of Igbos in 1966 over the so called "Igbo coup", no Northerners lost their life in the East.

Since then, there has been a long list of incidents where Northerners have killed Igbos in the North for no justifiable reason other than being Igbo. Yet, there has been little or no attack on Northerners in Igbo land

To this day, many Igbos are still apprehensive about being in the North because nobody knows when they will rise up again

What this shows anybody who reasons with his brain is that Igbos should not be in the same country as Northern Nigeria.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 4:10pm On Jun 27, 2019
kingzizzy:


Jos 1945, Igbo were slaughtered in their hundreds by Notherners. Igbos did not kill any Northerner in the Eastern Region

Kano 1953, the same thing, Igbos did not retaliate

Even as they slaughtered thousands of Igbos in 1966 over the so called "Igbo coup", no Northerners lost their life in the East.

Since then, there has been a long list of incidents where Northerners have killed Igbos in the North for no justifiable reason other than being Igbo. Yet, there has been little or no attack on Northerners in Igbo land

To this day, many Igbos are still apprehensive about being in the North because nobody knows when they will rise up again

What this shows anybody who reasons with his brain is that Igbos should not be in the same country as Northern Nigeria.
Igbos have been retaliating recently unlike before and the reason for it is because they have been pushed to react. Nobody is innocent and that is what everyone should know
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Rolings: 4:16pm On Jun 27, 2019
kingzizzy:




Doesnt it sound strange to you that people will start killing other people for what happend 6 months before?


It doesn't sound strange to know that immediately after the first coup an A Ibo general Ironsi was made president and he suppressed other tribes, there were reports of Ibos making mockery of others to their faces right on their land far away from iboland.... and it took 6 months for the officers that carried out the counter coup to gather themselves
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Abkreizi: 4:56pm On Jun 27, 2019
Yyeske:
Igbos have been retaliating recently unlike before and the reason for it is because they have been pushed to react. Nobody is innocent and that is what everyone should know

Uncle shey you know I'm following you... and yah always on biafra page ..... go to interesting places nah
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 5:08pm On Jun 27, 2019
Abkreizi:


Uncle shey you know I'm following you... and yah always on biafra page ..... go to interesting places nah
Aunty, if you find my posts interesting, why should you not follow?
There are other threads and posters you can follow as well but I have to say my mind as it is, it could hurt some people though

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 2:04am On Jun 28, 2019
Yyeske:
Even if Nigeria remains the laughing stock of the world, you still will not get your referendum, secession or Biafra any soon.
You still remain a Nigerian and also a laughing stock to the whole world.

You still have not made any point, just making arrogant take-it-like-that posts as though we all have no choice.

Nigeria is breakable and it will indeed break up one day if the shithole political system continues.
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 2:07am On Jun 28, 2019
Rolings:


It doesn't sound strange to know that immediately after the first coup an A Ibo general Ironsi was made president and he suppressed other tribes, there were reports of Ibos making mockery of others to their faces right on their land far away from iboland.... and it took 6 months for the officers that carried out the counter coup to gather themselves

Cock and bull stories. People choose to believe what they want to believe in order to justify their nefarious actions.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 2:12am On Jun 28, 2019
Yyeske:
No justification for the pogrom that followed after the coup in the north but there is a 'but' somewhere.

A coup executed by mostly Igbo officers and mostly leaders from other regions were killed but none from the old eastern region. The coup was said to been carried out to remove corrupt leaders, does it mean there was no corrupt politician from the old Eastern region?

If you were to be from the old Northern or Western region, how would you feel?
I repeat, no justification for the pogrom in the north but put yourself in their position.

We've had reprisal attacks in the SE after some killings of Igbos in the north, why didn't our people just let it go? I remembered that of 2006 in Onitsha vividly.

You killed their leaders and even made fun of it in their faces in '66 and you weren't expecting a backlash?

There is a level you can push someone and he must react.
Still, no justification for any killing of innocent people

The killing of their leaders was seen initially as a revolution by young promising officers, that was why SOME people were rejoicing at the news, before ethnic propaganda crept in.

It was NEVER that Igbo as an ethnic group started mocking hausas and yorubas, that's a fatal lie.

Stop regurgitating half-truths

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 2:20am On Jun 28, 2019
Yyeske:
At least Catalonia and the other regions I mentioned started from somewhere, you just have to start from somewhere too to achieve what you want.
Nigeria will never give you what you want if you decide to do it the wrong way and if you insist, then prepare for another '67. Nobody prays it degenerates to that

If it degenerates to that, there is will be no Nigeria in a matter of months, not years.

Your right way to achieve a biafra is by dining with a corrupt political system in order to exit it?

With the jaundiced attitude of Nigerian politicians, the keg of gunpowder (socio-political instability) will soon explode. Pundits have said this over and over again.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 2:27am On Jun 28, 2019
Yyeske:
Just take it easy with them, do you think it is easy to be brainwashed and still remain sane? Anytime you feel insulted by them, just understand their psyche and don't get yourself worked up.

Obviously you aren't Igbo but you love biafra threads. Don't worry, leave us and our "insanity" and face your herdsmen masters.

It is your type that demands for the big fish when the soup is ready.

If you don't believe in something why talking about it all the time?

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 6:39am On Jun 28, 2019
kingzizzy:


This is one of the reasons they dont want to teach history, they know that if they do, it will expose the long held lies that the first coup was an "Igbo coup".

Somebody who reads history will like to know the yardstick used to call it an Igbo when Yoruba coup plotters like Ademoyega, Adeleke, Oyewole. What about Nothern participants like Captain Gibson Jalo, Captain Egbiko and Lieutenant Kpera?

By what percentage was the coup Igbo? Youruba? And Hausa? The only time a coup can be called an "Igbo coup" is if it was 100% carried out by Igbos. In this case, it was not.

Nigerians waking up to kill Igbos has been happening long before the so called Igbo coup. It happend in Jos in 1945 and Kano in 1953.


But let us look at an extreme situation. Let take that it was 100% and Igbo coup that killed the leaders of other Regions and spared that from the east. The coup was in January, the massacre of Igbos started about 6 months later

Doesnt it sound strange to you that people will start killing other people for what happend 6 months before?

Assuming a few Yorubas go and kill Governor Ugwuanyi of Enugu state, should Enugu people kill any Yoruba they serve because of what a few did?

Also, doesnt it look suspicious to you Igbos would wait 6 months to to revenge this?

The massacre was not about the coup, it was just because some people dont like the face of Igbos

It was termed am igbo coup because the masterminds were igbo, the officers that carried out most of the murders were igbo, all igbo military officers and politicians were spared in the murders and the beneficiaries of the coup were igbos. It was the perception that it was an igbo coup and the killings of their military, spiritual and political leaders that lead to anger and animosity by the northerners.

People waited six months to start killing because prior to that time, the military was in the hands of an igbo man. Any killings before the military changed hands would have been difficult. They took advantage of the counter coup, because they reason that Gowan would not crack down on them. And true to their calculations, Gowon failed to handle the situation.

You can't compare igbo republican sentiment with feudal northern sentiments. Killing of an igbo governor is not the same thing as killing the spiritual and political leaders of a feudal society. It's like an Irishman (with cheers from the Irish people) killing the Queen of England, the prime minister and the most senior English general at a go.

Finally, you should wonder, why do you think other people generally do not like igbo people? Is the problem with all other tribes and people or with the igbos themselves?

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 7:41am On Jun 28, 2019
superlightning:


You still have not made any point, just making arrogant take-it-like-that posts as though we all have no choice.

Nigeria is breakable and it will indeed break up one day if the shithole political system continues.
Break it up then since you seem capable

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 7:44am On Jun 28, 2019
superlightning:


The killing of their leaders was seen initially as a revolution by young promising officers, that was why SOME people were rejoicing at the news, before ethnic propaganda crept in.

It was NEVER that Igbo as an ethnic group started mocking hausas and yorubas, that's a fatal lie.

Stop regurgitating half-truths
Go read up about the immediate aftermath of the coup especially in the north especially Kano paying special emphasis on the behavior of the Igbos
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 7:46am On Jun 28, 2019
superlightning:


If it degenerates to that, there is will be no Nigeria in a matter of months, not years.

Your right way to achieve a biafra is by dining with a corrupt political system in order to exit it?

With the jaundiced attitude of Nigerian politicians, the keg of gunpowder (socio-political instability) will soon explode. Pundits have said this over and over again.
If it degenerates to that then we will be back to the 1970 era after the war when our parents and grandparents had to start building up all over again and as Nigerians
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 7:47am On Jun 28, 2019
superlightning:


Obviously you aren't Igbo but you love biafra threads. Don't worry, leave us and our "insanity" and face your herdsmen masters.

It is your type that demands for the big fish when the soup is ready.

If you don't believe in something why talking about it all the time?
You aren't Igbo either so stop poking your nose into Biafran threads.
You want millions of Igbos to be killed again makes you anti-Igbo and an Igbo hater.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by kingzizzy: 7:54am On Jun 28, 2019
wirinet:

It was termed am igbo coup because the masterminds were igbo, the officers that carried out most of the murders were igbo, all igbo military officers and politicians were spared in the murders and the beneficiaries of the coup were igbos. It was the perception that it was an igbo coup and the killings of their military, spiritual and political leaders that lead to anger and animosity by the northerners.

People waited six months to start killing because prior to that time, the military was in the hands of an igbo man. Any killings before the military changed hands would have been difficult. They took advantage of the counter coup, because they reason that Gowan would not cracking down on them. And true to their calculations, Gowon failed to handle the situation.

You can't compare igbo republican sentiment with feudal northern sentiments. Killing of an igbo governor is not the same thing as killing the spiritual and political leaders of a feudal society. It's like an Irishman (with cheers from the Irish people) killing the Queen of England, the prime minister and the most senior English general at a go.

Finally, you should wonder, why do you think other people generally do not like igbo people? Is it problem with all other tribes and people or with the igbos themselves?

As I said before, the reason they dont want to teach Nigerian history is because they dont want people like you to be enlightened. I used an extreme example that even if it was an Igbo coup, why would anybody go and start killing men, women and children?

Their was a time that mostly middle belt officers under the leadership of Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North. The coup was crushed but a massacre of people from the middle belt did not happen. If Dimka had been Igbo, they will start looking for Igbos to kill.

The truth of the matter is that the massacre of Igbos was not about if it was an Igbo coup or not, there was no 'Igbo coup' in 1945 or 1953 but they still found reason to massacre Igbos

Nigerians are prejudiced against Igbos, that's why they will move against Igbos in a way they will not against others.

What most Igbos dont understand is why Nigeria wont let Igbos go their way? When an Igbo man says he is tired of Nigeria and wants his own country where he can look after himself, the same Nigerian who does not like the Igbo man will say no.

When IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu say they dont want to be part of Nigeria, they will order Soldiers to go and kill them despite the fact that they dont have weapons and didn't kill anyone. But if Fulani with their AK47 murder people, they start looking for land to accommodate them

It is time for this madness called Nigeria to end by granting Igbo their own separate country

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 8:09am On Jun 28, 2019
kingzizzy:


As I said before, the reason they dont want to teach Nigerian history is because they dont want people like you to be enlightened. I used an extreme example that even if it was an Igbo coup, why would anybody go and start killing men, women and children?

Their was a time that mostly middle belt officers under the leadership of Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North. The coup was crushed but a massacre of people from the middle belt did not happen. If Dimka had been Igbo, they will start looking for Igbos to kill.

The truth of the matter is that the massacre of Igbos was not about if it was an Igbo coup or not, there was no 'Igbo coup' in 1945 or 1953 but they still found reason to massacre Igbos

Nigerians are prejudiced against Igbos, that's why they will move against Igbos in a way they will not against others.

What most Igbos dont understand is why Nigeria wont let Igbos go their way? When an Igbo man says he is tired of Nigeria and wants his own country where he can look after himself, the same Nigerian who does not like the Igbo man will say no.

When IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu say they dont want to be part of Nigeria, they will order Soldiers to go and kill them despite the fact that they dont have weapons and didn't kill anyone. But if Fulani with their AK47 murder people, they start looking for land to accommodate them

It is time for this madness called Nigeria to end by granting Igbo their own separate country
Most important of the points you made at the bolded.
The Arewa youth forum gave the Igbos an ultimatum to leave the north and go form Biafra two years ago but who went begging northern leaders to appeal to the Arewa youth forum to rescind their decision which they later did, the Igbos.
You go about shouting upandan that you are been held back by Nigeria but most of you outside Igboland find it difficult to return.
If I should ask you what steps you have taken to actualize Biafra today, you have nothing to say aside the normal nairaland grandstanding

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 8:56am On Jun 28, 2019
kingzizzy:


As I said before, the reason they dont want to teach Nigerian history is because they dont want people like you to be enlightened. I used an extreme example that even if it was an Igbo coup, why would anybody go and start killing men, women and children?
I already explained the sensibilities and sentiments that led to the pogrom. It was a mass action and not a planned official policy.
It is similar to the Rwanda genocide. It was the assassination of Rwandan president Juvénal Habyarimana and Burundian president Cyprien Ntaryamira, both Hutu, that led to the murder of mass murder of Tutsis, and the killing of up to a million Rwandans within 10 days. Till today no one knows who shot down the plane.



Their was a time that mostly middle belt officers under the leadership of Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North. The coup was crushed but a massacre of people from the middle belt did not happen. If Dimka had been Igbo, they will start looking for Igbos to kill.

This is a wrong misinformation. For someone that claims to know history, it's a shocking statement. The only soldiers killed in the February 13 coup was General Murtala, his ADC and his driver. So I don't know where you got the " Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North" from.
The handling of the fall out of the 1976 coup is in sharp contrast to the handling of the 1966 coup. In the Dimka coup, the next in command was allowed to take over. In the 1966 coup General Ironsi took advantage and overthrew the government. In the 1966 coup, all officers were tried and executed within 2 months. In the 1966 coup, Ironsi dilly dallied for 6 months before he was assassinated.



The truth of the matter is that the massacre of Igbos was not about if it was an Igbo coup or not, there was no 'Igbo coup' in 1945 or 1953 but they still found reason to massacre Igbos
I don't know anything about the 1945 and 1953 massacre, but if it was a big issue by independence, the Igbos should used that as an excuse to separate at indeoendence, but to the contrary, Igbo political leaders were at the forefront of unity.



Nigerians are prejudiced against Igbos, that's why they will move against Igbos in a way they will not against others.
I still want to find out why everyone is prejudiced against Igbos. At least there are at least 200 other tribes in Nigeria.


What most Igbos dont understand is why Nigeria wont let Igbos go their way? When an Igbo man says he is tired of Nigeria and wants his own country where he can look after himself, the same Nigerian who does not like the Igbo man will say no.


When IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu say they dont want to be part of Nigeria, they will order Soldiers to go and kill them despite the fact that they dont have weapons and didn't kill anyone. But if Fulani with their AK47 murder people, they start looking for land to accommodate them

It is time for this madness called Nigeria to end by granting Igbo their own separate country

No one is holding Igbos from going anywhere, Igbos are permitted to go anywhere they choose within Nigeria. Igbo man has not said (officially that is ) that they want to leave Nigeria. Kanu does not represent all Igbo men, his association, IPOB does not represent all Igbo men. I am sure IPOB members are not up to 1 million in Nigeria. Igbos have political and traditional rulers that represent segments of Igbos. They are yet to tell us they want to leave Nigeria.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by Yyeske(m): 12:39pm On Jun 28, 2019
wirinet:




No one is holding Igbos from going anywhere, Igbos are permitted to go anywhere they choose within Nigeria. Igbo man has not said (officially that is ) that they want to leave Nigeria. Kanu does not represent all Igbo men, his association, IPOB does not represent all Igbo men. I am sure IPOB members are not up to 1 million in Nigeria. Igbos have political and traditional rulers that represent segments of Igbos. They are yet to tell us they want to leave Nigeria.


You nailed it there, I read your points but this one really got me, those kids must be taught the history of this country which of course they do not know.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by food4tot: 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2019
kingzizzy:


Jos 1945, Igbo were slaughtered in their hundreds by Notherners. Igbos did not kill any Northerner in the Eastern Region

Kano 1953, the same thing, Igbos did not retaliate

Even as they slaughtered thousands of Igbos in 1966 over the so called "Igbo coup", no Northerners lost their life in the East.

Since then, there has been a long list of incidents where Northerners have killed Igbos in the North for no justifiable reason other than being Igbo. Yet, there has been little or no attack on Northerners in Igbo land

To this day, many Igbos are still apprehensive about being in the North because nobody knows when they will rise up again

What this shows anybody who reasons with his brain is that Igbos should not be in the same country as Northern Nigeria.

These northerners must be horrible people, they just wake up one day and kill without any provocation?

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 4:30am On Jun 29, 2019
Yyeske:
Go read up about the immediate aftermath of the coup especially in the north especially Kano paying special emphasis on the behavior of the Igbos

I have SINCE read it all up (from federick forysyth, to obasanjos account, to "12 years of military rule" by Daily times publication, to Wake Ademoyega's account to Ben Gbulies account to Gen. Akirinnades account to gamgi.coms account. Your version of the story is EXAGGERATED. Chai I have known you distort history.

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 4:32am On Jun 29, 2019
Yyeske:
You aren't Igbo either so stop poking your nose into Biafran threads.
You want millions of Igbos to be killed again makes you anti-Igbo and an Igbo hater.

Your reverse psychology ain't working one bit.

Herdsmen are attacking your village why not face them? Impostor

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Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 4:36am On Jun 29, 2019
Yyeske:
If it degenerates to that then we will be back to the 1970 era after the war when our parents and grandparents had to start building up all over again and as Nigerians

Again..... your speculations are sprinkled with lies lies lies.

I pray it occurs, so we can see whether your sick and corrupt Nigeria remains alive.
Re: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by superlightning: 4:39am On Jun 29, 2019
food4tot:


These northerners must be horrible people, they just wake up one day and kill without any provocation?

Yes o.... It's an primordial jihadic instinct. It happens in every non Islamic community that has significant Moslem population, It's only a matter of time.thankfully, they will be paid back in their own coin. They do not possess the Monopoly of violence.

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