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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by klexycole(m): 8:07pm On Jun 30, 2019
darkelf:


This place is small

Go to the match day thread..you'll know that we are just tempering justice with mercy here.

Someone said we should be ashamed of loosing to a team whose players bear botanical names

grin cheesy

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:08pm On Jun 30, 2019
Joebie:
icon4s
You said at least you wanted to see good football from SE
How do you rate us so far? I guess you already agree that we are not winning this AFCON

I am not writing the team off yet.

Complaincancy affected the entire team. The number of changes were too many.

The team was overly complaisant. We are better than this.

We don't have credible midfield options. Time for Ogu and Mikel to take a bow. We need fresh Supply of young midfielders.

Ogu and Balogun were responsible for that defensive error. Nightmarish first half for Balogun.

Again, Rohr went to Egypt with surplus in natural wingers. That team doesn't have a natural supporting striker. And so we are condemned to lone striker setup all tournament.

I always try not to judge a team with it's performance in its last group game if they had qualified before that game.

Onwards, we take the matches as they come.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:08pm On Jun 30, 2019
soetanoreoluwa:


O pari grin

From WC disappointment since that time, I don't trust Papi Rohr he is looking for world class players to coach...

Just that we don't have good local coach... Painful.

If you give this guy France, england or Netherlands to coach, he will still Bleep up.

The guy is just a dinosaur and is clueless. Simple

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sainty92: 8:08pm On Jun 30, 2019
What pained me most in this match is how that Madagascar player that scored that freekick was raising shoulder all through the match as if he is C. Ronaldo....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:09pm On Jun 30, 2019
0-0 will have been a fair enough result. But will that have made Rorh look good to you?

raindodger13:


For a team that scored from a honeymoon gift and a deflected freekick.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by markfemisgay: 8:09pm On Jun 30, 2019
fabyom:
I am happy we lost at this stage.
This is the type of defeat that spurs team to success.
There is no cause for alarm, we lost to two fortuitous goals despite changing almost all our regular Midfielders.
We are winning this AFCON.
Bookmark this space.
#SoarsuperEagles
From what I watched today, we are not winning afcon. Keep dreaming.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:10pm On Jun 30, 2019
ChrisKels:


Sorry u brought in Chelsea. U compared their bus parking to that of Madagascar, so watchu saying really?

Musa was there, Ighalo and Simon were there also grin

There's nothing special about park bus.

Where is Kalu on your list? Wasn't he there?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:10pm On Jun 30, 2019
edi287:

If we wanted to be on the offensive(which we did) - there was no need playing two CMs deep in addition to a back 4 especially when we had just one attacking fullback (Aina). What we needed was one of the CM to be able to make those late 3rd man runs into the box and have the stamina to drop deep. We all know Etebo is the only guy to do that. But Rohr chose to play Etebo as a DM which was an incredible waste.
Another thing which no one seems to be talking about is our lack of options at midfield. I remember that game against SA when Rohr invited just 3 CMs and when I complained folks said the result was what mattered. We are paying for a lack of CM options now especially with the likes of Kalu not a 100 percent when we could've given that spot to a CM.

We need an expert formula 1 driver, not a tipper driver to make use of our ferrari talents.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:10pm On Jun 30, 2019
Has Nigeria played the kind of football you like so far? Let's assess the team at the group stage.

Icon4s:


I am not writing the team off yet.

Complaincancy affected the entire team. The number of changes were too many.

The team was overly complaisant. We are better than this.

We don't have credible midfield options. Time for Ogu and Mikel to take a bow. We need fresh Supply of young midfielders.

Ogu and Balogun were responsible for that defensive error. Nightmarish first half for Balogun.

Again, Rohr went to Egypt with surplus in natural wingers. That team doesn't have a natural supporting striker. And so we are condemned to lone striker setup all tournament.

I always try not to judge a team with it's performance in its last group game if they had qualified before that game.

Onwards, we take the matches as they come.




Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:11pm On Jun 30, 2019
Icon4s:


I am not writing the team off yet.

Complaincancy affected the entire team. The number of changes were too many.

The team was overly complaisant. We are better than this.

We don't have credible midfield options. Time for Ogu and Mikel to take a bow. We need fresh Supply of young midfielders.

Ogu and Balogun were responsible for that defensive error. Nightmarish first half for Balogun.

Again, Rohr went to Egypt with surplus in natural wingers. That team doesn't have a natural supporting striker. And so we are condemned to lone striker setup all tournament.

I always try not to judge a team with it's performance in its last group game if they had qualified before that game.

Onwards, we take the matches as they come.





Ogu has always been average for us. Forget the crap of foreign best player in an obscure league.

His bow (and that of Mikel) should have been since after WC
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:11pm On Jun 30, 2019
mostob:
yes...you are right but Croatia has average players but they reach world cup final.Zambia has average players but they won AFCON years ago. Keshi has average players but came third at CHAN,won AFCON and reach WC R of 16. What matters is how you use the resources at your disposal not the quality of your Resources.


If I konk u...wc Croatia has average player lipsrsealed


Rakitic,modric,perisic,mandzukic ,loveren and deir number 2 of athletico madrid?of 2018 were average undecided


Oga no dey compare our players with Croatians own o,dey re far better undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:13pm On Jun 30, 2019
Sainty92:
What pained me most in this match is how that Madagascar player that scored that freekick was raising shoulder all through the match as if he is C. Ronaldo....


Hahahahaha grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:14pm On Jun 30, 2019
elyte89:



If I konk u...wc Croatia has average player lipsrsealed


Rakitic,modric,perisic,mandzukic ,loveren and deir number 2 of athletico madrid?of 2018 were average undecided


Oga no dey compare our players with Croatians own o,dey re far better undecided

I had to look twice at what he typed to be sure it was Croatia. I thought he typed cross river

Wetin we no go see for this thread

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:15pm On Jun 30, 2019
Of course, our problem is not Ighalo. It has never been Ighalo. But I insist we need an upgrade in that CF dept once this Afcon is done.

The Problem is Rohr's understanding of the players' strengths and weaknesses. He lacks the know-how, insight, bravery, inventiveness and Innovativeness on how to mastermind this fine pool of super talents he has gathered and make a Mega-force outta them.

Father Tiko and Otto Gloria from ages past will salivate at the plethora of attacking options we have because those guys were attacking masterminds. If Klopp came down to Africa and was asked to coach a team from among Senegal, Egypt or Nigeria. I can bet you he will choose the Super Eagles because it takes a coach like that to see visions of attacking wonders and offensive masterpieces that Nigeria's pool can achieve compared to Senegal's and Egypt's. Mane and Salah may be Klopp's players but Klopp will most likely go for Nigeria because of our wicked offensive deep pool.

Rohr lacks this Vision and foresight Klopp and his likes has when it comes to utilizing attacking pools of players. He doesn't know what to do with these talents that is why he always starts the ones that suits his conservative bull crap only getting it right in a few other roles as he doesn't have any choice but to start those ones.





Like I told you on my return... I recall I said something akin to....

"I don't know if we would win the Afcon but we have the quality. BUT THE KEYS ARE IN ROHR'S HANDS."

I know why I said that. Having all the quality is not what will give us success in Egypt. It is how Rohr handles the quality. Rohr is the man on who our 4th Afcon title hopes rises and falls.

Our problem lie in the man, Rohr and his perception of the team.



All your points are well noted.

Joebie:
Exactly, I do not think Ighalo is our problem. It's largely a collective problem, and it has taken the coach too long to figure out some basic things as regards the strength and weaknesses of his players, and how to blend them together to form an efficient unit.

Some observations:
1. You can count on Musa for those magic one-on-one moments, but don't count on him to give beautiful passes. He rarely does. Ighalo is starved from passes, so he relies heavily on his fighting for the ball, and jam body which should have worked on one or two occasion on this game but for our opponent happening to be Ahmed Ahmed's bride.
2. Kalu is not fit. Else he is the number one player you can count on to perfect his crosses.
3. Chukwueze just needs a little tweaking to combine with other forwards, and with his help we can wreck most defenses
4. Onyekuru is an upgrade of Musa, but less experienced. Has similar speed and dribbles, added to that he brings more variety to his scoring boots, need I add header? But that's all at the club level.
5. Onuachu will thrive with a fit Kalu playing his A-game, and Simon on the other side of the wing.
6. When Mikel's AM game is OFF, use him as a holding MF, don't take him off.
7. That brings us to Etebo. I would rather play Mikel as a DM. Those mazy runs and ball holding are unnecessary. It takes away from our TEAM game. Should there be any player I would like to hold on to the ball more, it's Iwobi. And Iwobi is clever enough, he knows when to release the ball, with brilliant service to Ighalo.
8. Osimhen, I can't say much. I haven't seen him much.
9. Ogu is slow. If he is not scoring a long ranger, why use him? He doesn't do anything that other DMs can't do better.
10. Collins helped us during the qualifiers, but there is no doubt now that Aina has cemented his place in this team. I wouldn't start a fit Collins ahead of him.
11. As regards our CBs, we know Balogun is slow to react. Not a good idea to have Balogun when playing against teams with a high pressing game.
12. Ekong is dependable when not on his bad day.
13. Omeruo is made for AFCON. no be today he start
14. As regards Iheanacho (shirt #14 coincidentally). His problems goes beyond Rohr.

In summary, I think Rohr has failed to get the chemistry right.

Modified
On Siasia, you hit the nail on the head. Siasia will give you good attacking football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:15pm On Jun 30, 2019
See as Uganda dey bully Egypt ooo shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:15pm On Jun 30, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


We need an expert formula 1 driver, not a tipper driver to make use of our ferrari talents.
Yep or get him a better assistant. Salisu is thrash.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:15pm On Jun 30, 2019
Someone said that the guys purposely lost as warning for Onigbese NFF to pay up.

To me, na silly excuse be that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:16pm On Jun 30, 2019
ChrisKels:
See as Uganda dey bully Egypt ooo shocked

I told Seine that Egypt is overrated and I won't be surprised to see Uganda in the Semi finals.

Make una dey listen to the wise warnings of darkelf ooooo grin cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:17pm On Jun 30, 2019
elyte89:



If I konk u...wc Croatia has average player lipsrsealed


Rakitic,modric,perisic,mandzukic ,loveren and deir number 2 of athletico madrid?of 2018 were average undecided


Oga no dey compare our players with Croatians own o,dey re far better undecided

I saw the post, I just jump am pass grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:18pm On Jun 30, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 8:18pm On Jun 30, 2019
Joebie:
No be just today oh. Based on what I have been seeing in this team.
I have always said don't expect surprises when it comes to Rorh. the same thing played out just before and during the WC. You cannot give what you don't have. On quality players, what positions do you think we need reinforcement? Hasn't cohesion been a problem? There are only a few games I've enjoyed under Rorh. one of them is the Argentina friendly. I saw a fluid instinctive game and quick reaction. I think when we keep the possession with useless passes we start to get confused as to what to do with the ball.


I think the Argentina game was his best. He's a good man manager and he's given us some results (qualifying us for AFCON after two missed tournaments, Worldcup with a game to spare...we haven't really needed our calculators with him) but like someone here suggested, he needs a tactician to help him if he's going to stay. He seems to have problems reading the game and making changes.
The midfield needs work. Another AM, a DM/CM (Semi Ajayi?) and definitely a goal keeper. We might need another CB although I don't think that is as urgent. I think this should be Mikel and Ogu's last tournament for us; probably Akpeyi as well, Uzoho seems to be struggling.
Cohesion is a problem at times. There are days we do really well and some days you just wonder...I admit that the coach has a bigger role to play with player selection than the players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:19pm On Jun 30, 2019
Has anyone seen my good friend, icon4s today? Seems he's gone MIA
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Problemkid1: 8:19pm On Jun 30, 2019
markfemisgay:
From what I watched today, we are not winning afcon. Keep dreaming.
Bro Anybody wey tell you say we dey win that afcon, tell that person say him dey mad? We're not going to win anything. We don't have striker, we don't have defense, we don't have coach! So how are we going to win the Afcon?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:19pm On Jun 30, 2019
Someone said Nigerians should prepare to go protest in Madagascar cause Super Eagles just got raped in broad daylight by the animal kingdom #MADNGA

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:21pm On Jun 30, 2019
DR Congo made an apology video after losing to Uganda. What should @NGSuperEagles do to atone for this defeat?

Frog jump/march?#Afcon2019

From Solace Chulwu

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:22pm On Jun 30, 2019
darkelf:


I told Seine that Egypt is overrated and I won't be surprised to see Uganda in the Semi finals.

Make una dey listen to the wise warnings of darkelf ooooo grin cheesy

No problems buh u still firmly on that list grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:22pm On Jun 30, 2019
Nigeria cant even top a group comprising of
Nigeria
Burundi
Madagascar
Guinea

We are just jokers

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Problemkid1: 8:22pm On Jun 30, 2019
darkelf:


I had to look twice at what he typed to be sure it was Croatia. I thought he typed cross river

Wetin we no go see for this thread
Some Nigerians with there dull thinking ehn grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:22pm On Jun 30, 2019
ChrisKels:


No problems buh u still firmly on that list grin grin

You know I don't give two flying bleeps bro.. cheesy grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:23pm On Jun 30, 2019
I started suspecting Rhor the moment he emphasized hold up play. We have pacy players we should rely more on quick passing and not hold up play.

Our strength is in attack but unfortunately our coach does not believe in what he has.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:23pm On Jun 30, 2019
elyte89:



If I konk u...wc Croatia has average player lipsrsealed


Rakitic,modric,perisic,mandzukic ,loveren and deir number 2 of athletico madrid?of 2018 were average undecided


Oga no dey compare our players with Croatians own o,dey re far better undecided
yes..
.Croatia has average players....the only World class among them ain't much . Based on squad strength,they should be lucky to reach SF but they defied all odds to reach the final. BTW... where did you see me compare them with our own players ? make you shine your eyes and comprehend my post wella pls
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:23pm On Jun 30, 2019
Sainty92:
What pained me most in this match is how that Madagascar player that scored that freekick was raising shoulder all through the match as if he is C. Ronaldo....

Nigeria is the biggest football nation he has scored against naa.... Now that is an achivement. A confidence enlarger. You have no idea how much Endorphins were secreted in that moment of Ecstasy. wink


Lol.... Achievement gives you wings.

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