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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 7:00pm On Jul 01, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
My guy! Welcome back, Thread wasnt the same with you out in the cold. Nice to have you back. Nice.
cheesy cheesy
was never out in the cold if what you were suggesting is my interdiction!
Had access to this thread since saturday...
Just got distracted with better and more educating threads on nairaland!

MuttleyLaff:

I know. I know
Why you dey laff nau? Abi na bad belle laff you dey laff ni?
Trust me to be the butt of a joke nau
Thats my nature!
smiley smiley

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 8:35pm On Jul 01, 2019
openmine:
Its great to be back to this thread,though not for long as there are other interesting and captivating threads on nairaland(lets also not forget the real world) and besides,I am of the belief that the superb points and unequivocal scriptures as provided so far by TV01,Okcornel,shepherd,myself and others are more than copious to refute and repudiate the haphazard and tremulous presumption concocted by the OP!
Nevertheless,these are my annotations and,maybe,my last submissions here!

First, whoever got me banned, whether the OP or his unscrupulous allies or the inequitable mods that were
solicitous to the OP,is of least prominence to me and the last thing I need right now is to elongate this thread with accusations and counter-accusations!

So am giving it a rest because time is of the essence!
Though I find it nauseating,waggish and injudicious that the OP would comically attribute my interdiction to God’s intervention!
cheesy cheesy


Am quite grateful to my adversaries who kept taunting and scorning my ban from this thread which undeniably displays the perspicacity of these folks! cipher!
OP esp was so engrossed about my absence that he had to follow a conversation between me and @shepherd00 down to a sports thread.
Guy no fears....reduce your obsession of me cheesy cheesy


So far, I have analyzed from the commencement of this thread to the present as regards the objectives of the thread and that of the OP and my cessation is that this discourse,the scriptures provided and other valuable opinions by unperturbed and unruffled individuals on this thread have indeed strengthened my stance against homosexual acts whether its consensual or not!

Once again the scriptures have triumphed over the controversial postulations which endeavoured,fruitlessly,to impose or dispute explicit scriptures on the bible’s stance against homosexuality!
The OP emphatically claimed in his own words that God saw nothing untoward about consensual homosexual acts….Unfortunately and dolorously,he was unable to make any near semblance to such scriptures supporting his viewpoint and that’s because such scriptures doesn’t EXIST!
The bible is coherent and perspicuous about the consensual union/sexual intercourse between a man and a woman which was expressly endorsed by God almighty!



The op would deviously say ‘what is wrong with two adults engaging in a consensual homosexual act’?....The aim of such statements is to provoke empathy from the supposed open-minded!
Everything is fallacious about such deeds no matter what analogy or sugar coating used!
A pig will still submerge itself into a mud no matter how well they are treated or clothed!
Its fool-hardy to do a wrong thing in the right way....!
So no matter the tag ‘consensual’ used to tie around homosexual acts, such acts are unorthodox,abhorrent and mortifying!
God,in his wisdom, created and endorsed a union between man and woman to procreate and multiply which WAS and STILL is his plan for mankind and no scripture inclination has mentioned anything contrary or indirectly created a union other than the one endorsed by God!


Never was there a necessity or future proclamation of same sex union as erroneously suggested by the OP!
This is made glaring with scriptures calling acts of same sex union as UNNATURAL…in other words,not based on the plans and features of a natural union which is between a man and woman!



Lastly, to those who have stood firm in the face of insults, provocation and manipulation from Op and invited partners in crime,i think we have all made our salient points known and at the end,the word of God has finally prevailed against any alteration outside the word of God!
What has been said is more than satisfactory for the wise to comprehend!
Hence I would humbly suggest that we avoid extending this thread by falling for the OP's obvious but incessant prevaricating and digressing ploys!
We are not here to force anyone to reject or accept our submissions….however, Let others peruse the back and forth of this thread and let them decide for themselves!

Happy new month everyone! smiley smiley
Thank you sir for this. With this, I also take a bow from this thread.

Let him that have eyes see , let him that have ears hear what the Spirit says to the world.

Happy New Month Openmine.

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:09am On Jul 02, 2019
openmine:
Its great to be back to this thread, though not for long as there are other interesting and captivating threads on nairaland (lets also not forget the real world) and besides, I am of the belief that the superb points and unequivocal scriptures as provided so far by TV01, OkCornel, Shepherd00, myself and others are more than copious to refute and repudiate the haphazard and tremulous presumption concocted by the OP!
Nevertheless, these are my annotations and, maybe, my last submissions here!
Rather you do the chest-thumping than I do it. It better and truly be your last submission, but then a smart man should only believe half of what he reads, and a wise man ought to know which half of last and submission to believe

openmine:
First, whoever got me banned, whether the OP or his unscrupulous allies or the inequitable mods that were solicitous to the OP, is of least prominence to me and the last thing I need right now is to elongate this thread with accusations and counter-accusations!
Whodunit!? Anti-spam bot done it. Nobody on this thread is interested in getting or having anyone banned, but next time, we shouldnt let dogs be barking at a passing car(s), being disrespectful and trying hard to provoke. Pissing on my leg and when asked to stop, telling me it’s rainwater from it being raining.

openmine:
So am giving it a rest because time is of the essence!
Time sure, is of the essence, but most interlocutors on this thread have regularly shown they are very short of essence and this is part of the reason why on pages 15, 19 and 35, I've called them out to be unashamedly time stealers, time wasters and time killers

openmine:
Though I find it nauseating, waggish and injudicious that the OP would comically attribute my interdiction to God’s intervention! cheesy cheesy
"Ye shall not therefore oppress one another (i.e. not wrong one another)
but thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God.
"
- Leviticus 25:17

"Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God,
for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord.
"
- Romans 12:19

You really dont know. You even dont know whom is the God that I serve. My God that doesn't leave me, when I am planned against or when I am being continually disrespected. My God that is an Avenger.

I know, like everyone I don't have a lot of time, but as I've previously on this thread said, if just one person, gets succour, comfort, ease and relief, from going through and reading the thread, then it makes the whole effort worthwhile of turning one's hand to deconstructing the lies.

openmine:
Am quite grateful to my adversaries who kept taunting and scorning my ban from this thread which undeniably displays the perspicacity of these folks! cipher!
OP esp was so engrossed about my absence that he had to follow a conversation between me and @shepherd00 down to a sports thread.
I am not paying the duck. I am not going to take the blame for something I did not do nor have any slight knowledge about how you got banned except for the anti-spam bot done it.

I followed a Shepherd00 notification that mentioned MuttleyLaff. I didnt even know until after I had responded to where the notification brought me to, that it took me to another thread

openmine:
Guy no fears....reduce your obsession of me cheesy cheesy
Choose not to be full of yourself. Give up being egocentric. Be humble, you cant go wrong being that

openmine:
So far, I have analyzed from the commencement of this thread to the present as regards the objectives of the thread and that of the OP and my cessation is that this discourse, the scriptures provided and other valuable opinions by unperturbed and unruffled individuals on this thread have indeed strengthened my stance against homosexual acts whether its consensual or not!
"This thread was opened to first and initially respond to the questions TV01 & Shepherd00 put to me, after which it becomes a vehicle, with which to gradually deconstruct the perpetrated lies, deliberately misinterpreted bible texts, and expose the myth that adult homosexuality/same sex union is evil and/or threatening

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The time is now, if ever there is a time to rightly divided the Word of truth. It's just that the light of the truth, can be harsh to those that have been far too long in the dark.
"
- Page 01, Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:02pm On Jun 02

Interlocutors on this thread, the likes especially openmine, seem to forget the undelined in the above inverted commas quote taken from when the thread was opened. From the above inverted commas quote, it is evident that the thread was not and never opened, to proselytise for or proselytise away from, a consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle.

My objective and target, as stated on page 1, for opening the thread was to deconstruct the lies and myth of consensual adult homosexuality/same sex union. Which essentially means, to analyse words by deconstruction to discover uncover and expose them for what they originally and truly are saying and not saying. These are words, the translations and meanings have been changed by the church, then after used to demonise, persecute, discriminate like SSA people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle with

The plan and stipulated intention of the thread has always from the onset made known that it is to pick on those hijacked words like "arsenokoites" "malakoi/malakos" "sodomite/sodomy" "porneia" "qadesh/qedeshah", individually reduce them to their constituent parts and then have them correctly interpreted, to expose their meanings as they originally were, Nothing about the way in which anyone stands in regards of homosexual acts whether its consensual or not was ever in the remit of the thread

It is obvious though, that the truth doesn't always set you free, and that's because people prefer to believe prettier, neatly wrapped up lies. If one is given tea stirred with just a teeny weeny dash of poisonous lies, isnt it right that, it then becomes impossible to drink just tea, hmm?

openmine:
Once again the scriptures have triumphed over the controversial postulations which endeavoured, fruitlessly, to impose or dispute explicit scriptures on the bible’s stance against homosexuality!
The OP emphatically claimed in his own words that God saw nothing untoward about consensual homosexual acts….Unfortunately and dolorously, he was unable to make any near semblance to such scriptures supporting his viewpoint and that’s because such scriptures doesn’t exist!
The bible is coherent and perspicuous about the consensual union/sexual intercourse between a man and a woman which was expressly endorsed by God almighty!
The thread was not created and never was it opened to say whether or not God saw nothing untoward about consensual homosexual acts, but out of courtesy, out of freedom to express, out of having nothing to hide, OP allowed interlocutors, to derail the thread from its subject heading title and going on to endless and various tangents. Jumping from one cọck to the other donkey, keep changing topics without logic or as if like a drowning man clutching at any available river bed reed plant straw in sight. Almost each and all whims and caprices of the interlocutors, with the exception of only one or two, did OP not oblige or succumb to. They didnt find the pushback(s) impressive, it actually made the interlocutors very aggrieved, resentful, "sifialy" pained, bitter and not at all happy. They sulked upandan the thread, throwing tantrums like as if a spoiled brat

Now concerning openimine saying "I was unable to make any near semblance to such scriptures supporting the view, that God sees nothing untoward about consensual strictly monogamous homosexual acts." It’s a roll with butter, it's really dead easy to provide and show where on either sides of the Bible, God doesnt see anything untoward about consensual strictly monogamous SSA people, but if openmine and other interlocutors are now expecting me, to point out to them, in the Bible where, then they each and all, are not well informed, and it shows that they dont know the Bible very well at all. They suffer truth decay from lack of brushing up on the Bible

openmine:
[b]The op would deviously say ‘what is wrong with two adults engaging in a consensual homosexual act’?....The aim of such statements is to provoke empathy from the supposed open-minded!
Most interlocutors, so far, commenting on this thread have never disappointed me. They have been very at playing the mediocrity card, which is ignoring the big elephants in the room, I introduced them to on the thread, but then ignored the elephants, pretended they are not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about and dancing pangolo even before the music begins and dance starts.

openmine:
Everything is fallacious about such deeds no matter what analogy or sugar coating used!
A pig will still submerge itself into a mud no matter how well they are treated or clothed!
The pig can speak for itself, but as for persons like us, submerge us in mud, roll us in mud, ruff and tumble with us in mud, we will still come out clean, proper and prim, with nothing evil, harmful, wrong or bad doing us, whilst you be all dirted up and having enjoyed it

openmine:
Its fool-hardy to do a wrong thing in the right way....!
So no matter the tag ‘consensual’ used to tie around homosexual acts, such acts are unorthodox, abhorrent and mortifying!
God, in his wisdom, created and endorsed a union between man and woman to procreate and multiply which WAS and STILL is his plan for mankind and no scripture inclination has mentioned anything contrary or indirectly created a union other than the one endorsed by God![/b]
SSA is not threatening nor impeding the creational order. Straight people do decide not to have children and no one bats an eyelid about that. Now, it is only a wicked person at heart, that would stand in the way of anyone who loves and yearns to have his/her own children in whichever de jure way, is permissibly possible, espcially if they are consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship union and lifestyle based on kindness, care for each other, faithfulness, love until death do part, commitment to each other, no cheating, no sleeping around, no infidelity, no harm, evil, bad or wrong to anyone etcetera

Aside the institution of marriage designed for man and woman, there is a positive archetype for relationships the kind of SSA, there is evidence of it in scripture people need to just say, that they arent aware of it because that is what they've learned from being made and led to believe nothing exists in the Bible like that.

openmine:
Never was there a necessity or future proclamation of same sex union as erroneously suggested by the OP!
This is made glaring with scriptures calling acts of same sex union as UNNATURAL…in other words,not based on the plans and features of a natural union which is between a man and woman!
Its embarassing and a shame that not many, have properly and correctly read the bible, but they only and just have read the Bible, shallowly enough to attack minorities with it

openmine:
Lastly, to those who have stood firm in the face of insults, provocation and manipulation from Op and invited partners in crime, i think we have all made our salient points known and at the end, the word of God has finally prevailed against any alteration outside the word of God!
Most interlocutors on this thread are the worst kind of judgemental people you'll ever come across, they want you acting the way they want you to. It’s always has to be about their expectations, not and never the truth. It never is you being you, you being yourself

openmine:
What has been said is more than satisfactory for the wise to comprehend!
Hence I would humbly suggest that we avoid extending this thread by falling for the OP's obvious but incessant prevaricating and digressing ploys!
We are not here to force anyone to reject or accept our submissions….however, Let others peruse the back and forth of this thread and let them decide for themselves!
Most interlocutors on this thread, are always known to resort to promoting a mob mentality, case in point, is this very comment and line above, because they are incapable of tolerating minorities, especially those different from them in terms of sexual acts. Decisions for such interlocutors, are always made by clarion call popularity vote strongly expressed demand and request to avoid extending this thread, but they dont realise is that, truth draws strength from itself and not from the number of votes in favour an openmine gag order. It is a behavior on a largely emotional front, rather than one that's rational. Nothing frustrates people more than having someone turn up and be shaking a table that they are standing comfortably on

openmine:
Happy new month everyone! smiley smiley
Bottoms up to a Happy new month to everyone. I know that this thread for the anonymously reading it, has been a healer and a blessing

Building up to sincere, genuine and truthful conversation, like as so far being done on this thread, does take a lot of time, and it’s a process that only few can endure. It’s not for faint hearted people either to be involved in, and that's why on page 1, the thread was mentioned to be marathon and not a sprint. Every interlocutor on this thread, was invited to the thread, but obviously some will outstay and sadly have outstayed their welcome.

With a thread of this nature or kind, sometimes it’s enough to just plant the seed, and walk away. With my head held high, I know I can safely walk away from the thread now without further comments or uploading additional posts and leave the thread, just for the flower to now grow on its own.

"We can easily forgive a child, who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life, is when men are afraid of the light."
- Plato
cc EmperorHarry
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:10am On Jul 02, 2019
openmine:
cheesy cheesy
was never out in the cold if what you were suggesting is my interdiction!
Had access to this thread since saturday...
Just got distracted with better and more educating threads on nairaland!
Tell this to the marines and whoever else cares.

Of course you had access to the thread, you had access to the thread, you could watch, look and read but remember you couldnt touch, hold or type anywhere on the thread and rest of the Religion forum on Thursday/Friday because you were banned from doing so, thats why you took relief from the shock and disappointment in other forums, like the Sports forum, cooling off in them, thinking about how and why the ban befell on you plus waiting on Saturday to come for the ban to be lifted

openmine:
Thats my nature!smiley smiley
Each man must follow his way according to his nature. As for me, it's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. I have never being afraid of being outnumbered, a lion walks alone while the sheeple flock and gather together. A clear and innocent conscience fears nothing and no human being.
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:11am On Jul 02, 2019
Shepherd00:
Thank you sir for this. With this, I also take a bow from this thread.
Thank him for giving you, a "Get out of Jail" card to use.

Shepherd00:
Let him that have eyes see, let him that have ears hear what the Spirit says to the world
See wetin? Abeggy who dash monkey banana? Are you aware that the problem is that the light of the truth can be harsh to those that have been in the dark ni?.

Shepherd00:
Happy New Month Openmine.
Let me tell you whats going on in here, we havent seen the last of you two on this thread. This thread is oxygen, and you guys will turn up, for air. You cant resist not to, you have no discipline, no self control not to. The lust will overpower you and you wouldnt be able to refrain from posting comments on this thread. Max is 48-72 hours before you crumble and give in, like a junkie looking for the next fix

Shepherd00, watch this space, you and opemine both will do the Arnold Schwarzenegger on this thread. Dogs are animals, well known to return to their vomit
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:16am On Jul 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Smoking is dangerous to the health, you know that much. Have you seen the state of a non-smoker lungs compared with a smoker's openmine? Well I rest my case then.

Kegel exercise for men is to strengthen the anus and pelvic region, so you can last longer than a 40 seconds man does because you'll be able to control when you want to blast.

The thread and my post is getting risqué, so will hold back saying anymore in this regard

openmine:
grin grin grin
Are you saying the lungs of a smoker is healthier than that of a non-smoker? shocked shocked
See the difference below and get informed....
www.nairaland.com/attachments/9718369_lungs3_jpeg621bc5476639628b9d63e1de7ade5ee2
"Just because you don't smoke does not mean you are healthy, even those who excessively drink have unhealthy bodies!"
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 11:00am On Jun 27

"You are skirting away from the fact. I am talking of the state of lungs of a nonsmoker and a smoker, and you drifted off to something else"
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:23am On Jun 27

You by your own hands have scored an own goal, by presenting a healthy lung of a non-smoker compared with the ghastly looking lungs of a smoker. Who has or hasnt a healthy looking lungs now, hmm?
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:15am On Jul 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Rather you do the chest-thumping than I do it. It better and truly be your last submission, but then a smart man should only believe half of what he reads, and a wise man ought to know which half of last and submission to believe
Whodunit!? Anti-spam bot done it. Nobody on this thread is interested in getting or having anyone banned, but next time, we shouldnt let dogs be barking at a passing car(s), being disrespectful and trying hard to provoke. Pissing on my leg and when asked to stop, telling me it’s rainwater from it being raining.

In case you are having serious issues with your purblind and untrained eye sight,i have made myself clear in explicit terms....its of no importance and like said it would do no one any going with accusations and counter-accusations!
Ohhh really,so the unfair antispam bot decided to ignore your insults while taking out others?
Guy i dont have time for this!

MuttleyLaff:

Time sure, is of the essence, but most interlocutors on this thread have regularly shown they are very short of essence and this is part of the reason why on pages 15, 19 and 35, I've called them out to be unashamedly time stealers, time wasters and time killers

This comment is unnecessary and a space waster!

MuttleyLaff:

"Ye shall not therefore oppress one another (i.e. not wrong one another)
but thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God.
"
- Leviticus 25:17
"Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God,
for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord.
"
- Romans 12:19
You really dont know. You even dont know whom is the God that I serve. My God that doesn't leave me, when I am planned against or when I am being continually disrespected. My God that is an Avenger.
I know, like everyone I don't have a lot of time, but as I've previously on this thread said, if just one person, gets succour, comfort, ease and relief, from going through and reading the thread, then it makes the whole effort worthwhile of turning one's hand to deconstructing the lies.
I am not paying the duck. I am not going to take the blame for something I did not do nor have any slight knowledge about how you got banned except for the anti-spam bot done it.
I followed a Shepherd00 notification that mentioned MuttleyLaff. I didnt even know until after I had responded to where the notification brought me to, that it took me to another thread
Choose not to be full of yourself. Give up being egocentric. Be humble, you cant go wrong being that

grin grin
Keep up with your load of claptrap!


MuttleyLaff:

"This thread was opened to first and initially respond to the questions TV01 & Shepherd00 put to me, after which [i]it becomes a vehicle, with which to gradually deconstruct the perpetrated lies, deliberately misinterpreted bible texts, and expose the myth that adult homosexuality/same sex union is evil and/or threatening
Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The time is now, if ever there is a time to rightly divided the Word of truth. It's just that the light of the truth, can be harsh to those that have been far too long in the dark.[/i]"
- Page 01, Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:02pm On Jun 02

This skewed explanation of yours is as useless as the 'P' in psychology!
Let others draw their own conclusions!


MuttleyLaff:

Interlocutors on this thread, the likes especially openmine, seem to forget the undelined in the above inverted commas quote taken from when the thread was opened. From the above inverted commas quote, it is evident that the thread was not and never opened, to proselytise for or proselytise away from, a consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle.
My objective and target, as stated on page 1, for opening the thread was to deconstruct the lies and myth of consensual adult homosexuality/same sex union. Which essentially means, to analyse words by deconstruction to discover uncover and expose them for what they originally and truly are saying and not saying. These are words, the translations and meanings have been changed by the church, then after used to demonise, persecute, discriminate like SSA people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle with
The plan and stipulated intention of the thread has always from the onset made known that it is to pick on those hijacked words like "arsenokoites" "malakoi/malakos" "sodomite/sodomy" "porneia" "qadesh/qedeshah", individually reduce them to their constituent parts and then have them correctly interpreted, to expose their meanings as they originally were, Nothing about the way in which anyone stands in regards of homosexual acts whether its consensual or not was ever in the remit of the thread


All these shallow and garrulous narratives have been presented,debated,and finally scrutinized by scriptures and yet could not stand!



MuttleyLaff:

It is obvious though, that the truth doesn't always set you free, and that's because people prefer to believe prettier, neatly wrapped up lies. If one is given tea stirred with just a teeny weeny dash of poisonous lies, isnt it right that, it then becomes impossible to drink just tea, hmm?

I have asked you this simple question which you always evaded....what form the basis of your truth?
Is it the scriptures OR shaky postulations created by perverted individuals?
I dont need to go further...my explicit observations are as clear as daylight!

MuttleyLaff:

The thread was not created and never was it opened to say whether or not God saw nothing untoward about consensual homosexual acts, but out of courtesy, out of freedom to express, out of having nothing to hide, OP allowed interlocutors, to derail the thread from its subject heading title and going on to endless and various tangents. Jumping from one cọck to the other donkey, keep changing topics without logic or as if like a drowning man clutching at any available river bed reed plant straw in sight. Almost each and all whims and caprices of the interlocutors, with the exception of only one or two, did OP not oblige or succumb to. They didnt find the pushback(s) impressive, it actually made the interlocutors very aggrieved, resentful, "sifialy" pained, bitter and not at all happy. They sulked upandan the thread, throwing tantrums like as if a spoiled brat
Now concerning openimine saying "I was unable to make any near semblance to such scriptures supporting the view, that God sees nothing untoward about consensual strictly monogamous homosexual acts." It’s a roll with butter, it's really dead easy to provide and show where on either sides of the Bible, God doesnt see anything untoward about consensual strictly monogamous SSA people, but if openmine and other interlocutors are now expecting me, to point out to them, in the Bible where, then they each and all, are not well informed, and it shows that they dont know the Bible very well at all. They suffer truth decay from lack of brushing up on the Bible
Most interlocutors, so far, commenting on this thread have never disappointed me. They have been very at playing the mediocrity card, which is ignoring the big elephants in the room, I introduced them to on the thread, but then ignored the elephants, pretended they are not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about and dancing pangolo even before the music begins and dance starts.
The pig can speak for itself, but as for persons like us, submerge us in mud, roll us in mud, ruff and tumble with us in mud, we will still come out clean, proper and prim, with nothing evil, harmful, wrong or bad doing us, whilst you be all dirted up and having enjoyed it
SSA is not threatening nor impeding the creational order. Straight people do decide not to have children and no one bats an eyelid about that. Now, it is only a wicked person at heart, that would stand in the way of anyone who loves and yearns to have his/her own children in whichever de jure way, is permissibly possible, espcially if they are consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship union and lifestyle based on kindness, care for each other, faithfulness, love until death do part, commitment to each other, no cheating, no sleeping around, no infidelity, no harm, evil, bad or wrong to anyone etcetera
Aside the institution of marriage designed for man and woman, there is a positive archetype for relationships the kind of SSA, there is evidence of it in scripture people need to just say, that arent aware of it because that is what they've learned from being made and led to believe nothing exists in the Bible like that.
Its embarassing and a shame that not many, have properly and correctly read the bible, but they only and just have read the Bible, shallowly enough to attack minorities with it
Most interlocutors on this thread are the worst kind of judgemental people you'll ever come across, they want you acting the way they want you to. It’s always has to be about their expectations, not and never the truth. It never is you being you, you being yourself
Most interlocutors on this thread, are always known to resort to promoting a mob mentality, case in point, is this very comment and line above, because they are incapable of tolerating minorities, especially those different from them in terms of sexual acts. Decisions for such interlocutors, are always made by clarion call popularity vote strongly expressed demand and request to avoid extending this thread, but they dont realise is that, truth draws strength from itself and not from the number of votes in favour an openmine gag order. It is a behavior on a largely emotional front, rather than one that's rational. Nothing frustrates people more than having someone turn up and be shaking a table that they are standing comfortably on

This here is a regurgitated avalanche of balderdash!
Completely unnecessary and filled with nonsense!
I could have responded to this load of crap but i have not only answered them perfectly but others have done a better work than me by offering proof which you ignored and started a totally different issue!
That's called prevarication!
Well,like i said a waste of my time!


MuttleyLaff:

Bottoms up to a Happy new month to everyone. I know that this thread for the anonymously reading it, has been a healer and a blessing

grin grin
Keep deceiving yourself with that narrative!

MuttleyLaff:

Building up to sincere, genuine and truthful conversation, like as so far being done on this thread, does take a lot of time, and it’s a process that only few can endure. It’s not for faint hearted people either to be involved in, and that's why on page 1, the thread was mentioned to be marathon and not a sprint. Every interlocutor on this thread, was invited to the thread, but obviously some will outstay and sadly have outstayed their welcome.
With a thread of this nature or kind, sometimes it’s enough to just plant the seed, and walk away. With my head held high, I know I can safely walk away from the thread now without further comments or uploading additional posts and leave the thread, just for the flower to now grow on its own.
"We can easily forgive a child, who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life, is when men are afraid of the light."
- Plato
cc EmperorHarry

Another unnecessary and garrulous comment!
No better thing to pick out from!


My summary:
Its obvious you lack the intelligence to see through my carefully written observations!
Like i have said,i cant force anyone to reject or accept my submissions!
Let others draw their own conclusion!
No need for this humongous,garrulous and inconsequential load of debris from you!
Well,that's your trademark,so am unperturbed!

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:27am On Jul 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Tell this to the marines and whoever else cares.

Of course you had access to the thread, you had access to the thread, you could watch, look and read but remember you couldnt touch, hold or type anywhere on the thread and rest of the Religion forum on Thursday/Friday because you were banned from doing so, thats why you took relief from the shock and disappointment in other forums, like the Sports forum, cooling off in them, thinking about how and why the ban befell on you plus waiting on Saturday to come for the ban to be lifted

Each man must follow his way according to his nature. As for me, it's better to walk alone, than with a crowd going in the wrong direction. I have never being afraid of being outnumbered, a lion walks alone while the sheeple flock and gather together. A clear and innocent conscience fears nothing and no human being.

I have issues responding to unintelligent and garrulous comments !
was banned in the evening and unbanned the next day!
I chose not to respond because I just discovered its totally unnecessary going back and forth with issues that have already been tackled and resolved! That's why i made my observation!

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:37am On Jul 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Thank him for giving you, a "Get out of Jail" card to use.

See wetin? Abeggy who dash monkey banana? Are you aware that the problem is that the light of the truth can be harsh to those that have been in the dark ni?.

Let me tell you whats going on in here, we havent seen the last of you two on this thread. This thread is oxygen, and you guys will turn up, for air. You cant resist not to, you have no discipline, no self control not to. The lust will overpower you and you wouldnt be able to refrain from posting comments on this thread. Max is 48-72 hours before you crumble and give in, like a junkie looking for the next fix

Shepherd00, watch this space, you and opemine both will do the Arnold Schwarzenegger on this thread. Dogs are animals, well known to return to their vomit

grin grin
You are mistaken in your uninformed analogy!
Well,I was never surprised about your narrative!
i t was expected!
I could have continued with my absence after I was unbanned on Saturday but decided against visiting this thread!
You indeed lack maturity!
Little wonder why you engaged in puerile tantrums!
Got better things to do...feel free to write more postulations!

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 10:11am On Jul 02, 2019
^^^^^
You need oxygenation from this thread. You can never and ever leave it. You can't walk away from the thread. You cant see the back of the thread. You are unable to say good bye to the thread. You'll always come here to it, directly seen or reading comments incognito and most especially, to come draw air and make your usual vituperative outbursts
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 2:10pm On Jul 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
^^^^^
You need oxygenation from this thread. You can never and ever leave it. You can't walk away from the thread. You cant see the back of the thread. You are unable to say good bye to the thread. You'll always come here to it, directly seen or reading comments incognito and most especially, to come draw air and make your usual vituperative outbursts
grin grin
Another comical gibberish on display!
Please say more!

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 3:56pm On Jul 02, 2019
Blackpastor:

Not funny
Sodomy is worst than White Supremacy
Tell that to the OP

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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 5:17pm On Jul 02, 2019
openmine:
grin grin
Another comical gibberish on display!
Please say more!
I already have forgiven you

Blackpastor:
Not funny
Sodomy is worst than White Supremacy
Blackpastor, what biblically speaking and in the truest sense of it, is sodomy to your understanding and how are you saying that it's worse than white supremacy?
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:46pm On Jul 02, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I already have forgiven you

Black, what biblically speaking and in the truest sense of it, is sodomy to your understanding and how are you saying that it's worse than white supremacy?

Guy you no dey tire? You dey try o.

You have made your point known, those that would see reason will surely pick points in your submission. And those who choose to remain blind will see everything you wrote unpalatable and raise unnecessary rancour. You should let go
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:47pm On Jul 02, 2019
FOLYKAZE:
Guy you no dey tire? You dey try o.

You have made your point known, those that would see reason will surely pick points in your submission. And those who choose to remain blind will see everything you wrote unpalatable and raise unnecessary rancour. You should let go
"A vegetarian meal served with love is better than a big, thick steak with a plateful of animosity"
- Proverbs 15:17

"Oluwa lo nshọ yan. Ọmọ ologo, odo aiye o ni gbe ẹ lọ. Pesin who say your water no go boil, nah him own no go hot. Wọn o ni koba ẹ. Ni ile aiye, ka sha ma shey daada. Mo juba. Ẹ shey. Ko gba agidi. Na small thing nau. Nobi fight, coat o nshe ẹgbẹ agbada. I was just saying I have ni"

It is true of onlookers closely following the action and excitement on the thread
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 9:38pm On Jul 02, 2019
Blackpastor:
According to Latin science of the church which I highly respect because Rome borrowed heavily from Egypt sodomy is devil worship. Some of the best occult science kept at closed libraries in France are ancient 1st century scrolls all in the Latin language.

Saint Peter says it's the worst of all evils as it corrupts individuals, spirits and nations. Sodomy is the spread of the Apep worm or Yoruba Ajogun and Arabic Jinn. The mouth and the anus are the two filthest places on the body lots of parasites live in both. Oral and anal sodomy is the spread of parasitic worms that possess paraconsciousness according to Gnostic teaching. Also sodomy includes sex with animals which they possess lots of parasites from the wild. The Roman religion was heavily infused with North African Gnostic teachings. Latin science included Necromancy which deals with dead corpses which also are infested with parasitic worms. Demons are real and they do possess whole classes of certain worms called parasites because these entities are everywhere. Saint Peter The Moor understood what is was teaching by saying sodomy is the worst evil. St. Catherine of Siena also said while under Gnostic trance that the fallen angels are behind sodomy aka the substance known as homosexuality.

There is more I can give you when you ask.

The occult are a plague of sickness as they practice sex magick with orgies and care not if they spread disease. Some spread disease with intent of silent war.
Blackpastor, in a bizarre way, I do somewhat go along with almost all you've put forward up above there but I am having reservations about the above emboldened, and this necessitates me wanting to engage you in a long and very careful consideration of same emboldened.

Now, the thing is, my query(ies) and request for information about the emboldened, comes second, to you let know, what biblically speaking and in the truest sense of the real/original meaning of the word, what is sodomy to your understanding and explained in your own words, as in, unless absolutely neccesary or if nt requested, no sign posting other people's websites or referral to third parties content. Blackpastor, we can skip or scratch off, the, how are you saying that it's worse than white supremacy earlier question

The happiest people are not those getting more, but those giving more. Make yourself the happiest Blackpastor, afterall you have said there is more you can give when you're asked.
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:09pm On Jul 02, 2019
Blackpastor:
Sodomite is Qadesh temple prostitute

Gay comes Gaia the Goddess demon

Men with men men with children and women with women in perverted acts including with animals

This sex magick still goes on in Freemasonry circles and other occult orders

Sexual alchemy is alchemy they say grin

Research Gnostic Warrior as he goes in on the Apep worm

Demons possess worms and these parasites get inside our bodies and enough of them they can control the CNS that leads to the brain. They can make you feel Hot or hungry to manipulate you to act wreckless.
Thank you Blackpastor, but you seem itchy and in a hurry to get ahead of yourself. We dont need to galloping rush ahead so why not let us return to the starting blocks, the beginning and gently ease out, hmm?

Now, you seem to know, just like I do, that the word "sodomite" is a term, used for qadesh temple prostitute, where qadesh, is a Hebrew word for male temple devotee prostitutes, but what I am trying to puzzle out, is how and why you match up the word "sodomite", the Hebrew word for male temple devotee prostitutes, and associate it with men with men, men with children and women with women in perverted acts including with animals

Is it because, you're also in cahoots and in league with falsifiers and those having inadequate awareness of the facts, who use the word "sodomite" not just only for referring to consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship union and lifestyle based on kindness, care for each other, faithfulness, love until death do part, commitment to each other, no cheating, no sleeping around, no infidelity, no harm, evil, bad or wrong to anyone and anything, not to human nor to animals, but also to demonise, persecute, discriminate them with that "sodomite" word and well known other words too, hmm?

Blackpastor, let's settle this, let's hear your side of this story then we can move along with the rest of this matter. Yeah?
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 6:39am On Jul 03, 2019
Blackpastor:
Prostitute is perversion look it up

I knew Sodomite meant cult prostitute long ago
What an uncalled for suggestion to make. Why should you suggest looking up prostituting is perversion, when its clear as day, that prostituting, is perversion, hmm?

We've been up this garden path before together. I am already aware that you long ago, know that the word "sodomite" originally and in its truest meaning is a term suggestive of cult prostitute and/or male temple devotee prostitutes, but the question you keep prevaricating and dancing away from unequivocally responding to, is, are you, in cahoots and in league with falsifiers and those having inadequate awareness of the facts, who use the word "sodomite" not just only for referring to consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship union and lifestyle based on kindness, care for each other, faithfulness, love until death do part, commitment to each other, no cheating, no sleeping around, no infidelity, no harm, evil, bad or wrong to anyone and anything, not to human nor to animals, but also to demonise, persecute, discriminate them with that "sodomite" word and well known other words too, hmm?

Please respond in a way that leaves no doubt your answer to the above question erhn?

Blackpastor:
Yes the Hebrews broke their covenant

Sexual alchemy is real people actually use their sexual fluids to charge spells

Climaxing is trance like just like many rituals you enter trance to launch the intent into the aether

Are you studying occult history or just the root meaning of words

Put it all together because the picture is bigger than what you think

Sexual alchemy was used by preflood kings to mix human DNA with animals to create the Golem

Hebrews created Golem it's called the Jew and Caucasian grin
Please can you quit getting ahead of yourself and pack in the attempt to impress with all this showing off you are doing, erhn?

Blackpastor, you must be having a laugh and jacking your big chutzpah off, self loving yourself, for you to have the temerity to type here that Hebrews created golem. Do you at all really know what, biblically speaking and in the true original Hebrew meaning of the word, what golem at all is, hmm?

Blackpastor, putting you on the spot, what biblically speaking and to the best of your scriptural understand, is a golem?

Blackpastor:
Sexual alchemy used to create Golem

The Legend of the Golem of Prague
"Great men were once able to perform great miracles," begins the short story "The Golem," written by the author I. L. Peretz in 1890. In his narrative, Peretz retells the best-known version of the golem legend, which takes place in Prague and revolves around the studious Rabbi Loew. The rabbi performs the great miracle of bringing a clay golem to life – by placing a magic word, the shem, in its mouth. Once brought to life, the golem is strong and protects the Jewish ghetto. It also performs all sorts of physical labor for its creator. But one day the golem flies in a rage, smashing buildings, flinging boulders, and uprooting trees. Rabbi Loew pulls the shem out of the golem's mouth and the creature falls to the ground, dissolving into dust. Frightened by this turn of events, the rabbi resolves never again to create such a dangerous servant. To this day, the dusty remains of the golem are said to be located in the closed-off attic of the Old New Synagogue in Prague.
Of course, golem is a product and/or derivative of sexual alchemy, but I seriously doubt that you appreciate that I.L. Peretz, full name, Isaac Leib Peretz, is a satirist and prolific writer of humorous sketches and funny short stories.

I also dont understand why you put Peretz's sattirical work on a higher pedestal than the biblical view of what a golem is. What kind of "pasitor" are you, erhn? Or are you a paster, one that stretches the truth ni?

You seriously need to brush up your Bible, in order to see to what a golem really is and what it is about, then you might begin to relate and start to appreciate the psalmist instead of Peretz, for the psalmist saying: "... I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well..."
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by OkCornel(m): 7:21am On Jul 03, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
You are that unappreciative and ungrateful, that you couldn't even admit I inserted that clip as a fyi for those not familiar with how a malako would look like, when I gave the description of malakos in my explanation and when I made reference to another fact, that the only place in our modern world where this practice of malakos male prostituting still carries on is in India.

It is not like it would make a difference to you, if I should magically make available a website as the source of all I know about arsenokoites erhn. You OkCornel, especially out of all others, just every moment make me laugh, watching you take great delight in and pride of your ignorance, predijuce, discrimination and homophobia

An Instagram video from Tunde Ednut is your explanation for Arsenokytes? Stop joking around. Abi Tunde Ednut is now a Greek expert

Bring something from the Greek dictionary or concordance. I want to compare notes with notes.
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:33am On Jul 03, 2019
OkCornel:
An Instagram video from Tunde Ednut is your explanation for Arsenokytes? Stop joking around. Abi Tunde Ednut is now a Greek expert

Bring something from the Greek dictionary or concordance. I want to compare notes with notes.
"Click here for or to see: clip idea of who and what a "malakoi/malakos" looks like
Shepher.d00, about this same malakoi/malakos, I also previously gave the above instagram link. It shows the nomadic Wodaabe community belonging to the Fulani ethnic group in Naija, with make-up on, though they are not into temple ritual sex etcetera, I did say that, India is the last bastion of where this temple ritual sex with temple male prostitutes cum malakoi/malakos etcetera practised by the Canaanites in Leviticus times and by the heathen gentiles in Paul's Rome and Corinth times, is to date, still done in the 21st century. They are not called "arsenokoites" or sodomites in India, but are called by another word vernacular native to their way of speaking or particular to that area's lingo
"
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 12:50am On Jun 21

OkCornel, it is apparent that your failed comprehension of the above inverted comma and why I pasted that instagram link is beyond what I personally can help you with
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:11am On Jul 03, 2019
^^^^
No one should quote anything in the immediate above post. This heads up, particurlarly is a, fao for OkCornel.

If you need to respond to the above immediate, do so but withouting quoting it, just copy out what you want to refer, into your own new post then comment. If for the usual strange reason, you go ahead at your peril to quote the post and you then get banned for ignoring this piece of advice, please dont come accusing me like one other has before, of being the reason, behind you getting banned. You all have been forwarned
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:27am On Jul 03, 2019
Shepherd00:

Thank you sir for this. With this, I also take a bow from this thread.

Let him that have eyes see , let him that have ears hear what the Spirit says to the world.

Happy New Month Openmine.
Happy new month bro!
Good morning!
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 11:05am On Jul 03, 2019
Blackpastor:
Prostitute is an olosho
Fact.

Blackpastor:
You know that isn't good
I would like you hastily agree to that. "Ki Olorum ma je ki a ri agbako abi ogun aiye to ma fa wa, si irin olosho"

Blackpastor:
Cult prostitution corrupts society
I agree it does, but what has it to do with consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA romantic and love till death to part relationship s, hmm?

Blackpastor:
It's where people exchange their bodies to be in a cult
What is where?

It still goes on today[/quote]Well, you're right up the money on this, so I won't that much fault this comment

Blackpastor:
Anyway do you
Anyway do I what?

The question you keep prevaricating and dancing away from unequivocally responding to, is, are you, in cahoots and in league with falsifiers and those having inadequate awareness of the facts, who use the word "sodomite" not just only for referring to consensual adults living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship union and lifestyle based on kindness, care for each other, faithfulness, love until death do part, commitment to each other, no cheating, no sleeping around, no infidelity, no harm, evil, bad or wrong to anyone and anything, not to human nor to animals, but also to demonise, persecute, discriminate them with that "sodomite" word and well known other words too, hmm?

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