sammhi:

Don't be too simplistic
Go pick the original copy of the Bible in its original form written in Hebrew Aramaic and Greek . There is no change . What you are ignorant about is that you are using translated versions as being that the words changes. English and languages get modified over time. The so called changes are languages. Most people interpret according to their understanding.
Same with Quaran...the English translations have different versions too.
Water is made by God ..don't people pollute it ?
Truth is God is not in details..what God wants from us is very simple ...love him and love your neighbour.
If you love God you won't lie , kill , steal , pervert justice etc ..
God is really not looking for who has more knowledge of the Bible or Quaran..no, he is looking for those who fear him and practice righteousness.

Oga, stand well let thunder know who to fire. .. as far as Christianity is is concerned. . There are no neutral zones.. .You are either for Christianity or against Christianity... Choose you this day the God whom you will serve.

ScotMisile:
The Bible can never be understood by an unbeliever.. .Until you decide for Christ. .then your eyes shall be opened to see the truth... As far as you have rejected the Truth.. .the truth has also rejected you... .. heheheheheh... I laugh in heavenly language.. .

Sukesuke. I knew many Christians that have converted to Islam, I knew many Christians that have turn to athies, I red Bible but don't let me lie. Bible is not a book of God but book of man made.

Kokoebapluse:




Sukesuke. I knew many Christians that have converted to Islam, I knew many Christians that have turn to athies, I red Bible but don't let me lie. Bible is not a book of God but book of man made.

Check those Christians who converted to Islam. .it was done by the sword of jihad.. .No stable free minded man will choos3 islam

2pens:

This is so ignorant, what of the Torah and other religion before christainity

Hindus holy book vedas speaks about the coming of prophet Muhammad SAW.We worship God in different ways.

Kokoebapluse:




. I have no problem with you and your book. Am well guide by Allah. And am very happy to why belong to stray way.


Masallam

Behave like me.. open your mind and let's deal with this stuff objectively. .. 8f you win I believe.. .If i win you believe...DEAL? And let heaven, Earth and hell bear record.

kheny12:
Hindus holy book vedas speaks about the coming of prophet Muhammad SAW.We worship God in different ways.

We Christians do not quote any other book. .why do you guys keep bothering us with your counterfeit. .. if you are so confident about your faith... Then free us abeg.. .abi is this A j8had e-war?

[/quote][quote author=MorataFC post=79955570]Oga ifa is an idol

Stop been myopic, IFA is not an ido but complete religion and ways of life of a particular race

Siralgebra04:


Just like Oxford dictionary update their products, these are few from many verses that av been removed from ur bible. Check ur bible, those verses are missing.
(1) Matthew 17:21.
(2) Matthew 18:11.
(3) Matthew 23:14.
(4) Mark 7:16.
(5 & 6) Mark 9:44 & 9:46.
(7) Mark 11:26.
( Mark 15:28.
(9) Luke 17:36.
and many more
A genuine book from God will never have such a feature. Pick up a Quran that was used in lets say 200yrs ago, compare it with modern ones, u will never find any difference even with d slightest coma or fullstop.

I went through Mathew 17:21,and it was there..
I actually use king James version.
Here is what it said:
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting"

Now going down to Mathew 18:11,I noticed it was still there.
These is what it said :
" for the son of man is come to save that which was lost"
Going further down to Mathew 23:14,nothing was omitted there.
It reads:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisee,hypocrites ! For ye devour widows houses,and for a pretence make long prayer; therefore ye shall recieve the greater damnation"

So,applicable to all the verses you listed..
You need a screenshot,I will gladly forward them to you,if you need substantial evidence to my claims.
Now,since KJV has the bible verses you listed,can you bring forward the bible version without those verses you claim were omitted ?

Let's be civil with these sir...

Where my Niggas at Am waiting for the fake Bible verses ooo... And even the Bible God wrote in heaven and threw down to us 9n Earth.. .chaiiii... Am still laughing. ..

Benekruku:
Ejiogbe, Ejiogbe, Ejiogbe. Mo be yin, kiegbe mi ki'mi niyi, ki e egbe mi ki'mi n'ola, ifakifa kiini'yi koja Ejiogbe.

The Supporter, the Supporter, the Supporter.I beg you, be with me that I may have honor, be with me that I may have respect, there is no Odu more honored and respected than the Supporter.

Ejiogbe ni Baba - gbogbo won.

The Supporter is the Father of all Odu.

Ki gbogbo eniyan kaakiri agbaye gbarajo, kiwon maa gbe'mi n'ija, kiegbe mi leke ota. Ki nle'ke odi.

Let all those in the world gather to help me, through my difficulties, to defeat my enemies. Raise me above all misfortune in my lifetime.

Kiemaa gbe'mi n'ija kiemaa gbe mi leke isoro lojo gbogbo ni gbogbo ojo aye mi.

Forever raise me above all misfortune that might come my way.

Kiemaa gbe ire ko mi nigbabogbo tabi kiemaagbe fun mi. Ase.

Always bring me good fortune. May it be so.

Ire,

Aboru boye o o
Mo juba oooo

See them..my god is superior than yours. I'm going to heaven while you and others are going to hell. To avoid that, join my camp so can fly to heaven together in first class ticket on private jets. Brainwashed and mentally lazy people

rokisammy:


So you expect Egyptians that are basically Muslims to credit such a historical incident to the Bible....
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the records were not written by muslims. The archaeologists who found d relics are not muslims. Why did the bible omit the names once again bro. Cos it never happened

Hehehehe. ... You missed it bro... .You really did. ..why such erroneous disbelieve?

hadjboy:

Aboru boye o o
Mo juba oooo

ABORU ABOYE BO SISE!

Ifa a gbe o!

Siralgebra04:


Dear sir/madam,

Don't be too ignorant for ignorance is not an excuse. Noboday is referring to any translated version be it English or french. I am referring to the Original Version (Greek) of ur Bible. If u don't have a copy, do not procrastinate, quickly visit ur church or download d greek version now. Do not be fooled, ur editable bible have been revised and so they have removed d verses they are not interested in. And they will still remove more in d future. Should book of God have such characteristics?
Such a thing is never attributed to The Holy Quran either in its Arabic version or any other language.

Lemme educate you about Quran . Quaran was not written by Mohammed. He put it into memory and told some to his colleagues. (Mohammed was even illiterate so he couldn't even have written it. )Some wrote them on leaves , walls etc .20 years after death of Mohammed, there were many versions of the Quaran . His followers decide that inorder not to miss or dilute the message there is need to compile all into one . So each person brought whatever he has and they put all together and destroyed the rest . A good thing . So the Quran you have now is an amalgamated form ..that is why you would notice that some verses are repeated. So basically , it is not as if God wrote it and sent it down as you have been told . No, the Quran you have may not even b the exact revelation of Mohammed l! Mohammed never saw the Quran as you do now . No he didn't . It wasn't as If the book was written and then Mohammed listen to it and says , yes what you wrote is correct. No .
Quaran has many contradictions too ...eg . In some places it says God sent 1000 angels to help Mohammed fight and in another place it says 3000.
Quran says man was created from dust , another place sand , another place clay . So which is which ?
I can go on and on but it is not important.
There are even some funny verses I. Quaran : eg In one place Mohammed says God told him that if his colleagues come to his house they should not look art his wife face but only through a veil ....so ridiculous
Another place , Mohamed says God said when they his colleagues finished eating they should not stay in his ( Mohammed ) house and gist but should leave immediately.. hahahahaha..so funny
Another place .. God told him only him can marry his cousins, nieces ,inlaws etc but no other person should. Chai .Did Allah really said these ? I doubt very much
But
Like I said these details are not the important things ...
The Bible or Quaran has a message ...look out for those messages and follow it .Shikena

You have succeeded in displaying acute bias and ignorance.. Your sources are like minded..
It is agreed among all archaeologists and historians that Matthew mark and john were disciples.
Luke was not a direct disciple and never claimed to be. If you read the beginning of the gospel of Luke, you would notice that. Also the book of acts which he wrote.. He was however fully seised of all the activities of Jesus and was an active participant in the spreading of the gospel as recorded in acts..
All other sources about the life and times of Jesus are hearsay and therefore unreliable.. Only the bible is eye witness account..

Kokoebapluse:




In the Bible there some eye witness record. But in NT all what in it is (hearsay) or let us just say lies. Mathew, mark, luke, none of this people see Jesus face to face they are not among 12 deciple of Jesus but they wrote lies and want people to believe it? Before I use to think that John Is on of deciple of Jesus so maybe his gospel maybe correct, but latter I found out that John wasn't the author of gospel of John in Bible according to John 21:24. It's clear that John wasn't the real author of gospel of John It was written by someone group of unknown peoples, who have not yet know.

So to be honest together Bible is not a book that one can accept it record. Especially nt. Although ot also have it own corruption but nt is Toooo much. And that is not a book Allah gived issa.

Kokoebapluse:




Sukesuke. I knew many Christians that have converted to Islam, I knew many Christians that have turn to athies, I red Bible but don't let me lie. Bible is not a book of God but book of man made.

Good
Have you seen Aetheist that have become Christians? Have you seen Muslims that turn to become Christians . Well if you have never lemme tell you that Bishop Oyedepo of winners was a Muslim...pastor Bakare was a Muslim .we can go on and on..
So.leave this cross carpeting .. people do it for many reasons

ScotMisile:


Check those Christians who converted to Islam. .it was done by the sword of jihad.. .No stable free minded man will choos3 islam

Not true
Some Christians joined voluntarily...some were enticef by money , jobs , position , power etc and is both ways

Benekruku:


ABORU ABOYE BO SISE!

Ifa a gbe o!

Sir, it appeared you are deeply involved in the ifa divination study.

May i ask sir

Who is IFA?
Who is Orunmila
How did Orunmila become baba ifa?
Odu Ifa is more like an historical narration that allows the present draw examples from the past. Who recorded that past?

Odu Ifa was said to have created many towns in Yoruba land. How did it happen?

What happens to the many other towns not created by odu ifa, what can ifa say about them?

Can you recommend any book that address some of these questions?

sammhi:

Not true
Some Christians joined voluntarily...some were enticef by money , jobs , position , power etc and is both ways

Oga read well before repeating the sense I have made.

sammhi:

Don't be too simplistic
Go pick the original copy of the Bible in its original form written in Hebrew Aramaic and Greek . There is no change . What you are ignorant about is that you are using translated versions as being that the words changes. English and languages get modified over time. The so called changes are languages. Most people interpret according to their understanding.
Same with Quaran...the English translations have different versions too.
Water is made by God ..don't people pollute it ?
Truth is God is not in details..what God wants from us is very simple ...love him and love your neighbour.
If you love God you won't lie , kill , steal , pervert justice etc ..
God is really not looking for who has more knowledge of the Bible or Quaran..no, he is looking for those who fear him and practice righteousness.

May God bless and increase your knowledge. Yours words are very articulated and knowledgeable.

sammhi:
Op
Observe certain things
Any City or town that worship IFA are always backward with high disease rate , death , plagues and others. Why ? Find out !
Countries or cities that worship God as he prescribed in the Bible always prosper and in peace (compare western Europe to Eastern Europe ) . Most eastern Europe don't believe in God and are like poor cousins to the west.
Southern Nigeria is predominantly pagan worshippers with a mix of pseudo Christians. The result : a very unstable region .
Arabs are predominantly Muslims using the Quran as their constitutions. : Result a very wealthy and stable countries.
Russians and Chinese are predominantly Aetheist and you can see even though are well developed but are not inviting . So they are a 'case of human efforts but their stability is fact that they are firmly rooted to principle found in Bible...
Asians are like southern Nigeria .. predominantly pagans but with a mix of pseudo Christians. Result : a very unstable cities
Conclusion
IFA is paganism and a direct Satanic or demon worship ..it can't lead you anywhere .
God through Christ is the ultimate..but problem is most people are not ready to follow Christ as in the textbook way .
Think : if all of us in Nigeria obey God as found in Bible ..how do you think our country would look like ? Pleasant, peace development etc .
It is in our hands .

Oh please shut it. Nigeria with the bullshit religious country status is the capital of poverty.

I laff when people try to point out errors from the bible or try as much as possible to doubt the existence of God almighty.the difference between christianity and other man made religion is the the demostration of the power of God and the manifestation of the gift of the Holy spirit.i cor 12:1-11.you cant get them in any man man made religion.in christianity you are not saved by your works but by grace.you cannot argue the written word of God.nor deny the existence of God,you can only deceive yourself.i pray you encounter Christ before it becomes too late.

Siralgebra04:


Just like Oxford dictionary update their products, these are few from many verses that av been removed from ur bible. Check ur bible, those verses are missing.

(1) Matthew 17:21.
(2) Matthew 18:11.
(3) Matthew 23:14.
(4) Mark 7:16.
(5 & 6) Mark 9:44 & 9:46.
(7) Mark 11:26.
( Mark 15:28.
(9) Luke 17:36.

and many more

A genuine book from God will never have such a feature. Pick up a Quran that was used in lets say 200yrs ago, compare it with modern ones, u will never find any difference even with d slightest coma or fullstop.

my brother those verses and chapter are in my bible.
God does not argue with the devil,light is greater than darkness.discredit the bible at your own peril.Jesus loves you.

Kokoebapluse:




Sukesuke. I knew many Christians that have converted to Islam, I knew many Christians that have turn to athies, I red Bible but don't let me lie. Bible is not a book of God but book of man made.

and i know countless muslim and atheist that got converted when the encounter christ.

bilms:
Quran, Ifa and the Bible
By Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

Recently, in the course of research about history, i came in contact with a book on Ifa corpus.

I took interest in it because, I have heard many times that in ifa, exists history of many towns and people and i really wanted to know how true this is.

So, i took a copy of this ifa book to read.

Surprisingly, in the chapter one of the book, titled eji ogbe, a story, closely related to that which was narrated by the Quran and Bible was contained in it.

If you remember, the Quran and Bible told a story about the miraculous birth of a child called Jesus or Isa.

In both narratives, they said a virgin lady named Marry or Mariam (as the case may be), that is not married conceived the child without ever being with any man.

Bible said Marry conceived Jesus through holy spirit and the Quran said Mariam conceived Isa through what Islamic Scholars described as "kun fa ya kun".

I have just found out that similar story was narrated in an Odu Ifa called eji ogbe.

Ifa called the woman Oyigi and the child, ela.

According to the story, oyigi is unmarried and a revelation from ifa came to her that she will give birth to a miraculous child, a child that will be God's messenger.

Soon, she got pregnant as prophesied without meeting any man, went into the bush and eventually gave birth to the child she named ela.

The child, according to the story, became the most knowledgeable about ifa and when Orunmila is returning to heaven or eledumare, he entrusted spiritual knowledge of ifa to ela and asked all ifa messengers to refer to ela when they have any question.

Could this ifa story, be said to be similar to that of the quran and bible?

Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

What's the meaning of "ku fa ya kin"?

sammhi:

Lemme educate you about Quran . Quaran was not written by Mohammed. He put it into memory and told some to his colleagues. (Mohammed was even illiterate so he couldn't even have written it. )Some wrote them on leaves , walls etc .20 years after death of Mohammed, there were many versions of the Quaran . His followers decide that inorder not to miss or dilute the message there is need to compile all into one . So each person brought whatever he has and they put all together and destroyed the rest . A good thing . So the Quran you have now is an amalgamated form ..that is why you would notice that some verses are repeated. So basically , it is not as if God wrote it and sent it down as you have been told . No, the Quran you have may not even b the exact revelation of Mohammed l! Mohammed never saw the Quran as you do now . No he didn't . It wasn't as If the book was written and then Mohammed listen to it and says , yes what you wrote is correct. No .
Quaran has many contradictions too ...eg . In some places it says God sent 1000 angels to help Mohammed fight and in another place it says 3000.
Quran says man was created from dust , another place sand , another place clay . So which is which ?
I can go on and on but it is not important.
There are even some funny verses I. Quaran : eg In one place Mohammed says God told him that if his colleagues come to his house they should not look art his wife face but only through a veil ....so ridiculous
Another place , Mohamed says God said when they his colleagues finished eating they should not stay in his ( Mohammed ) house and gist but should leave immediately.. hahahahaha..so funny
Another place .. God told him only him can marry his cousins, nieces ,inlaws etc but no other person should. Chai .Did Allah really said these ? I doubt very much
But
Like I said these details are not the important things ...
The Bible or Quaran has a message ...look out for those messages and follow it .Shikena

I don't condone mediocrity. In Islam, we address issues based on facts and proofs. All these u said are d trash narrated to u or dobbed from google. Back all ur lies with verses from d Holy Quran, we don't entertain assumptions in Islam.

I reiterate, u will never see any contradiction or discrepancy in d Holy Quran.

validstar1:
Most religions copy, edit and paste from the bible

NO, it's the bible that copy, edit paste from various African religious concepts. That's where it got the name bible from bibliography.

Both the Christian bible and Quaran copied their text from older religious concepts from all accross the globe.

MorataFC:
Let it be known to you if you have not know before, all the religions on earth stole their story line from Bible, copied their belief from from the original HOLY book

Where did bible stole it own because there book/revelation to some prophet before jesus

MorataFC:
Let it be known to you if you have not know before, all the religions on earth stole their story line from Bible, copied their belief from from the original HOLY book

Nonsense, it's the bible that stole its stories from various African religious concepts. That's where it got the name bible from bibliography.

Bolatechnology:

Where did bible stole it own because there book/revelation to some prophet before jesus

Precisely, the Christian bible and Quaran stole their text from older religious concepts from all accross the globe. Even the book of revelation is a direct copy from African religious text.

Amujale:


Nonsense, it's the bible that stole its stories from various African religious concepts. That's where it got the name bible from bibliography.

Both the Christian bible and Quaran stole their text from older religious concepts from all accross the globe.

This is hilarious. The Bible stole it's stories from various African religious concept. Those various African Religious concepts that came from most cultures and civilizations that had hardly discovered the technology of writing? Go back to school, study history of the Jews, learn when they discovered how to write and compare their civilization to African civilizations vis-a-vis when they started to learn to write. Moses wrote down the Pentateuch don't forget that.

sammhi:
Op
Observe certain things
Any City or town that worship IFA are always backward with high disease rate , death , plagues and others. Why ? Find out !
Countries or cities that worship God as he prescribed in the Bible always prosper and in peace (compare western Europe to Eastern Europe ) . Most eastern Europe don't believe in God and are like poor cousins to the west.
Southern Nigeria is predominantly pagan worshippers with a mix of pseudo Christians. The result : a very unstable region .
Arabs are predominantly Muslims using the Quran as their constitutions. : Result a very wealthy and stable countries.
Russians and Chinese are predominantly Aetheist and you can see even though are well developed but are not inviting . So they are a 'case of human efforts but their stability is fact that they are firmly rooted to principle found in Bible...
Asians are like southern Nigeria .. predominantly pagans but with a mix of pseudo Christians. Result : a very unstable cities
Conclusion
IFA is paganism and a direct Satanic or demon worship ..it can't lead you anywhere .
God through Christ is the ultimate..but problem is most people are not ready to follow Christ as in the textbook way .
Think : if all of us in Nigeria obey God as found in Bible ..how do you think our country would look like ? Pleasant, peace development etc .
It is in our hands .

I don’t think you have sense, sorry for coming to
You that way. But it is the truth. You didn’t mention China, you would hardly find Christian or Muslim there. I know of Fela Kuti, he was never a Muslim or a Christian. But he had a heart of Gold and was the most successful musician in Nigeria till date. I really don’t believe in Christian or Muslim because those religion are not part of being an Africa. Only stupid Africa man would go to church or mosque. When I see an African king claiming to be a Christian or Muslim it piss me off like hell. Go and read more and stop deceiving yourself that counties that are Christian are making it, the richest pastors are in Nigeria but we are one of the poorest countries in the world. Israel that Jesus was born don’t even believe in him. Forget about religion and focus of being kind to your fellow human and nature.