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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:18am On Jul 07, 2019
TheCongo2:


Not just Arsene Wanger. I am sure there are a good number of sons of Africa accross the continent who are capable to do the job. But the only obstacle they will face is the fact that Africans discriminate against black. Africans would rather see a white man manage a national team than a fellow black.
Could this be Congo4a?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 10:24am On Jul 07, 2019
Barryseal:


One of the chances he created was as a result of the short comings of his weaker foot, he was in a position to hit the ball with his right but instead tried to cut to his left, the defence recovered and he had to square to Musa. He had higher chance of scoring if he took the shot himself, albeit using his weaker foot.

That is why stats don't usually tell the full story.
Secondly I don't think 2 players were outrightly marking him. He more or less ran into traffic when he tried dribbling. Chucks had a decent game but I agree with Rohr, the goals came inspite of him not because of him. He wasn't the game changer.
''I don't believe that it changed
the result but it helped us to
win and to score the two
goals.''-Rohr.

Chukwueze's introduction disorganized their defence.

Immediately Chukwueze came on he distracted them as they left both Musa and Ighalo free.

Prior to his introduction they were seriously marking Ighalo and never gave Musa any space to wreck havoc.

Ighalo was free,Musa was free also.

Creative/technical wingers draw opponents to themselves thereby leaving their teammates free to score.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 10:27am On Jul 07, 2019
facts1234:
Whatever happens in our next game, Please tell Rohr not to field AKPEYI.

The South Africans seem to know him very,very well. They know his low points as a keeper and will exploit them to the fullest.

A word is enough for the wise.
who now has rohr's phone number here angry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:27am On Jul 07, 2019
Triniti:
I remember that game like yesterday. One of the fastest eagles opening goal in a match, that year when I was crazy about the Super Eagles. How my passion for football waned off still amazes me till today
Like Jarus I was in SS3 too. @the bolded it's a loss my bro. The passion flamed out gradually.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:36am On Jul 07, 2019
forgiveness:


Chukwueze didn't change any game. In fact, he had no hand in the 2 goals.

The dynamic of the whole game changed after the two goals because the Camerounians began to chase the game with many players thrown forward leaving their defence exposed.

I just watched the replay now. Chukwueze barely did anything with the ball before the two goals were scored.

You said Simon was bereft in the final third. Maybe, you should watch the game again.
Stop this thing na. He changed the dynamics of the game even though he had no hand in the two goals. He created two clear chances which were wasted. All of these unsettled the camerounian defense ,put them under pressure and stemmed the tide of their attacking forays.

Simon Moses on the other hand wasn't just on the top of his game today. No need to press the point. E no go enter.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 10:39am On Jul 07, 2019
Mujtahida:

Stop this thing na. He changed the dynamics of the game even though he had no hand in the two goals. He created two clear chances which were wasted. All of these unsettled the camerounian defense ,put them under pressure and stemmed the tide of their attacking forays.

Simon Moses on the other hand wasn't just on the top of his game today. No need to press the point. E no go enter.
It's not only today.Even against Guinea he was poor in attack bar his free-kick and his defensive contribution.

Simon is a WB, suitable for 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 not 4-2-3-1.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iSlayer: 10:42am On Jul 07, 2019
Well, the AFCON has not produced exactly what I was expecting prior the tournament. The play has been slightly better overall but that's just about it. I expected better attacking play especially from the bigger boys but it's not turned out so. The numbers are still the same.

Nevertheless, I remain hopeful. I think that improvement I can see on the horizon will come in the near future, three to four years down the line, with continuous work at the age grade level producing young footballers with a future in the game. Also, maybe soonest Africa begins to adopt the youth development system which is yet missing.

In this near future, with increasing number of talents coming through, most of the current coaches will no longer be good enough for the squads at their disposal. They will gradually be fazed out naturally and only the ones who are worth their onion will survive.

A quick recommendation for the African football administrators around the Continent. They have to start looking at investing in coaching too. The expatriates won't always be available and some are not even good enough. Those who are good enough and are available, might not take up the offer of coaching an African team for several reasons. This problem can be nipped in the bud early enough by aggressively investing in coaching. Invest in the retired professionals and interested young individuals.
In this modern times, teams should not be struggling to string passes across the width of the pitch. That is something we shouldn't see anymore from any serious footballing nation in Africa. It's terrible.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Triniti(m): 10:42am On Jul 07, 2019
Mujtahida:

Like Jarus I was in SS3 too. @the bolded it's a loss my bro. The passion flamed out gradually.
True talk bro. I watched the game in a school environment yesterday. Come and see how these uni boys were so scared of us losing, I guess the passion is still 100% with them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by obaaderemi: 10:43am On Jul 07, 2019
IronGalaxy:
I saw your name. You know nothing about anything, you have no business qouting me
Then you have no business making comments on an open forum with millions of members. You are clueless.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 10:49am On Jul 07, 2019
BascoVanVeli:


It was 100% Aina's fault. He slept off everybody in the stadium knew that the striker was going to win that ball but Ola failed to anticipate that and allowed his man to enter inside. Even the supersports crew said he was to blame.

Omeruo didn't miss the ball the striker was in front of him only a foul would have stopped him from heading that ball but who would expect Aina to sleep off?

The header could have gone anywhere.
He didn't sleep, it was a 50-50 thing . If you play football , you'll understand

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by obaaderemi: 10:49am On Jul 07, 2019
EEGA:
''I don't believe that it changed
the result but it helped us to
win and to score the two
goals.''-Rohr.

Chukwueze's introduction disorganized their defence.

Immediately Chukwueze came on he distracted them as they left both Musa and Ighalo free.

Prior to his introduction they were seriously marking Ighalo and never gave Musa any space to wreck havoc.

Ighalo was free,Musa was free also.

Creative/technical wingers draw opponents to themselves thereby leaving their teammates free to score.
I think Chukwueze coming in freed up Awaziem. He became more confident. I am still at a loss why many keep criticising Awaziem.He did very well yesterday and that accurate long pass into the Cameroonian goal area was pure class.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 10:58am On Jul 07, 2019
EEGA:
You dey talk like this because we later won.

We got the first goal because we attacked them first.

But after the first goal our guys wanted to defend till halftime which gave Cameroon chance to equalize.

It's attacking football that won us this game not some defensive football.

Egypt lost yesterday because there coach in a bid for defensive solidity opted for a 4-2-3-1 instead of his 4-3-3 flat which has been winning him games.
baba, we won them simply because we are better...that's all...the two goals they scored came in quick succession and we controlled much of the 1st half..

Second half we made changes after we saw that they don't really know how to play and we can even beat them despite being 1-2 down and we did beat them... Could have been 4 and a hatrick if ighalo had not shot straight at onana...onyekuru will score that goal, maybe osihmen too..

Just let a better coach handle this team, we have enough players already, pick the best and watch this team, this Era dominates the African continents back to back to back...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:59am On Jul 07, 2019
One question: Do you counter speed with speed?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:05am On Jul 07, 2019
somehow:
One question: Do you counter speed with speed?


Nope ,d oda opponent will counterbalance d game with calmness


Meanwhile, where's baba d goodjoe,abi baba is waiting for rohr to loose b4 he comments,on aw a mercurial amunike and a sleeky "nacho' could av won us d afcon trophy grin grin,no worry u go wait tire till.we lift d trophy grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:09am On Jul 07, 2019
joseph1013:


I was told this a lot of times too. I remember being told that Nigeria - Denmark game (France 98) will be replayed because Sand was found to have take drugs after the match.

Just like you, I'm still waiting.
I clearly remember that SE vs Denmark game. It was a shock defeat . next day in school the word was that the match would be replayed cos Sand was found to have taken drugs. In our disillusionment we believed it. Funny enough during WCQ for 2006 WC I was already in the University. Angola beat us to the qualifiers. Next thing a guy named Ola a year my senior and from my faculty who was an avid football fan came with the gist that CAF was going to substitute Angola with Nigeria. Shockingly- in retrospect- we believed him.

Hope ,disappointment can make one believe anything no matter how incredible
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:12am On Jul 07, 2019
I will like Rohr to be retained as a Team Manager, and a Technical Adviser is hired to complement his Work. Rohr brings stability and unity to the Squad. He's well respected by the Lads on and off Field. Also he's not sitting idle off FIFA Windows, rather following up the progress and conditions of the Lads at their respective Clubs.

However, a big Concern is his tactical prowess, and conservative Nature of handling the Squad. He's bringing balance to the Squad in terms of man-management but so wack tactically. We need a reborn of Westerhof and Jo Combo to drive the Team forward.

NFF should hire a tactically sound Adviser for the Team as an Assistant to Rohr. Sanusi has nothing to offer tactically, same as Imama. I don't know much about Finidi's coaching Skills, but I believe he's making good progress in Spain with Technical knowledge of the Game.

If NFF can't afford another foreigner as a technical Adviser, then they should draft in Finidi George into the Fold.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:15am On Jul 07, 2019
Mujtahida:

I clearly remember that SE vs Denmark game. It was a shock defeat . next day in school the word was that the match would be replayed cos Sand was found to have taken drugs. In our disillusionment we believed it. Funny enough during WCQ for 2006 WC I was already in the University. Angola beat us to the qualifiers. Next thing a guy named Ola a year my senior and from my faculty who was an avid football fan came with the gist that CAF was going to substitute Angola with Nigeria. Shockingly- in retrospect- we believed him.

Hope ,disappointment can make one believe anything no matter how incredible





Same Age Bracket?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:18am On Jul 07, 2019
timay:


The header could have gone anywhere.
He didn't sleep, it was a 50-50 thing . If you play football , you'll understand


Where else could the ball had gone? Do u think the header was a mistake?

So in your football the defender should not anticipate where the ball is going to end up from a header? Why then did the striker do so? This is why it is called the second ball you have to be alert as a defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 11:19am On Jul 07, 2019
edi287:

Lol same here bro. Now I don't feel that old anymore...
I was in ss1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 11:21am On Jul 07, 2019
Barryseal:

Chukwueze didn't change the game. We have Odion Ighalo to thank, having learnt from his mistake earlier in the tournament where he tried trapping the ball in the penalty box instead of hitting the ball one time.

Yesterday, Omeruo's mis hit shot fell to him and he hit it one time, goal! Musa's chest pass, he hit one time, Goal!
Chukwueze had nothing to do with any of the goals. He didn't even have a shot on target.
so u turned a blind eye to his 3 clear cut Chances he created?. One to Musa and two to ighalo?. Please semid, add my guy for the list biko

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Sportilitica: 11:26am On Jul 07, 2019
We are so used to comparing players which is not healthy. Both Samu and Simon contributed their quota simple. Just as I had suggested, I would not have started Samu knowing fully well it would be my joker. I would have removed Musa and brought in Henry though
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:26am On Jul 07, 2019
kellycute:
so u turned a blind eye to his 3 clear cut Chances he created?. One to Musa and two to ighalo?. Please semid, add my guy for the list biko


Kelly baba,Aw far na


Hope u dey hear from ur broda nacho grin grin grin

Tell am say we dey greet am from Egypt grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 11:31am On Jul 07, 2019
EEGA:
It's not only today.Even against Guinea he was poor in attack bar his free-kick and his defensive contribution.

Simon is a WB, suitable for 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 not 4-2-3-1.
what do you mean by the bolded?

For instance can we say the same for chukwueze whose defensive contribution is poor? I mean if Simon attacked less and defended more, yet it is a poor game, chukwueze also attacked more nd defended poorly, why is it great Which Kain logic be that...

Both had their purpose their strong points, it was very evident in the match that chukwueze was needed, there's not much need for the defensive duties of Simon that awaziem cannot handle on his own...

we needed someone that could put the fear of the Lord on the cameroonian defender, as offensively poor as Simon was, he still manages some take ons, then and there I knew if we bring chukwueze in the game, then we would definitely score....

I'm not insterested in the debate of weather he contributed to the goals or not, he performed well, moses also, I was mad at iwobi in the first half, but was more madder with Aina, infact I rate him very low for yesterday matche, all the boys played well...well akpeyi is akpeyi, neither well nor bad, just there...just hoping none of the balls would get him unaware ( I'm still looking at the first goal suspiciously lipsrsealed)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 11:31am On Jul 07, 2019
Triniti:
We don’t even blow trumpets anymore. Those years was when we played football with trumpet. The trumpets was like the rhythm that dictates play on the field for us
exactly!!!. Yakubu unconsciously flowed with the sound of the trumpet. His body movement gyrate in accordance with the rhythm.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 11:41am On Jul 07, 2019
Starboytwo:
what do you mean by the bolded?

For instance can we say the same for chukwueze whose defensive contribution is poor? I mean if Simon attacked less and defended more, yet it is a poor game, chukwueze also attacked more nd defended poorly, why is it great Which Kain logic be that...

Both had their purpose their strong points, it was very evident in the match that chukwueze was needed, there's not much need for the defensive duties of Simon that awaziem cannot handle on his own...

As a winger , nobody will question your defending deficiency but question your attacking prowess, whether it is good enough or not. That is the point of complain concerning Simon. He offers very little offensively, which is his primary duty.

No club in the world will sign a winger because he can defend, but primarily because if his offensive prowess and how good he can wreck havock to the opponents defense.

Like the guy earlier said, if we are not playing a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2, he shouldn't be starting, cos his club has taken away the attacking instinct of Simon we used to know. He plays more or less like a full back now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:41am On Jul 07, 2019
Late Stephen Keshi passing tactical Instructions to Musa on the Touchline. The Pic depicts a Gaffer following a Match tactically and not banking solely on Luck Grits to win.

May his Soul keep resting in perfect peace.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 11:41am On Jul 07, 2019
By the way, I think Camerounians bullied our players with strength for the most part of the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 11:46am On Jul 07, 2019
So why are some people expecting us to use fast players against South Africa when we know they are the king of fast play/counter account in this tourney?

They play a lot of counter-attacking football, they pass a lot too and knows how to locate each other. They make few passing mistakes if anyone notice. so I think a 4:4:2 should be used against them. We also need ball holders (Which I doubt we have), so if we can't have a ball holder, can we as well let them have most of the ball so as to stop them from their counter-attacking tactic? You only use counter if you have less of the ball.

Just saying and I am opened to further disecting of these points.

elyte89:



Nope ,d oda opponent will counterbalance d game with calmness


Meanwhile, where's baba d goodjoe,abi baba is waiting for rohr to loose b4 he comments,on aw a mercurial amunike and a sleeky "nacho' could av won us d afcon trophy grin grin,no worry u go wait tire till.we lift d trophy grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 11:46am On Jul 07, 2019
elyte89:



Kelly baba,Aw far na


Hope u dey hear from ur broda nacho grin grin grin

Tell am say we dey greet am from Egypt grin
Lol. He dey support us wella no issue at all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 11:46am On Jul 07, 2019
kellycute:
so u turned a blind eye to his 3 clear cut Chances he created?. One to Musa and two to ighalo?. Please semid, add my guy for the list biko
cool down na baba grin, he never reach make them add am, chill, chill..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 11:49am On Jul 07, 2019
kellycute:
so u turned a blind eye to his 3 clear cut Chances he created?. One to Musa and two to ighalo?. Please semid, add my guy for the list biko

I understand your short comings regarding analyzing the technical aspects of football but I can tell you for free, Chukwueze didn't change anything about the game yesterday. The match was 50-50, a very balanced game. There was never a time we totally dominated the game,even when we were in search of the equalizer. Not even Chukwueze's intro made us dominate. The quick fire goals were not as a result of dominance but specific errors by the Camerounians.

Instead of praising Ighalo for coming to the party you're hailing Chukwueze for creating chances which weren't converted. Can a non converted chance change the result of a game? He'll no!
Now get lost.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 11:51am On Jul 07, 2019
timay:


As a winger , nobody will question your defending deficiency but question your attacking prowess, whether it is good enough or not. That is the point of complain concerning Simon. He offers very little offensively, which is his primary duty.

No club in the world will sign a winger because he can defend, but primarily because if his offensive prowess and how good he can wreck havock to the opponents defense.

Like the guy earlier said, if we are not playing a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2, he shouldn't be starting, cos his club has taken away the attacking instinct of Simon we used to know. He plays more or less like a full back now
i get you

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