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| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 5:43pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
I would like to see the chronology of trip and interviews to the last refusal. That is how we can manage to figure out possible cause of refusal. Time2win: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by CptCharlesVane: 5:55pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
You might not agree with me and that's fine but as long as a university can issue a valid I-20 they are good to go for an F-1 visa. What most people are unable to do at the interviews is to demonstrate why, out of all the schools in the United States, they choose to go to those obscure ones Going by this visa thread on NL, almost if not all who selected such schools didn't even fill the DS-160 form and left everything, from school selection to visa application, in the hands of an agent. How then would such a person give any coherent reason why they selected such schools. Also, people who search for schools themselves and go the whole 9 yards, don't select such 'suspect' schools. It's that simple. No one should be going to any university in the US because the VO would like the school, or doing a PhD because the VO won't like to see another master's degree. The VOs are inconsequential in that regard, let's stop giving them too much credit. The visa application and interview is another process and time and again it has been stated that it is about proving non-immigrant intent at the discretion of the VO. That is what they are legally obligated to do, not tell you the school is small or big or whatnot. Those are jobs for other people. Again, you could ask them, and they would agree. Time2win: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by biikeys(m): 5:57pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
SEQUIN:Let's say VOs were denying based on assistantships..it's not necessarily a bad thing. Education in the US can be expensive in addition to cost of living depending on where you choose to go. You should how some students struggle semester-to-semester so you'll understand. Why don't you look around for schools willing to fund you-trust me, it will make life much easier for you. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Time2win(m): 6:05pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
CptCharlesVane:You said they shouldn't care why someone is going for another MSc, that was why i gave that illustration. it's same non-immigrant intent that they are trying to determine. To me it doesn't make any sense going for another MSc in same field or closely related field when one can easily opt for PhD |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by CptCharlesVane: 6:09pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Oh Travelled and stayed for 5 months after F1 visa was denied four times? Time2win: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by CptCharlesVane: 6:15pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
They would only ask and isn't the applicant expected to know better why the second MSc regardless? Then they should say why. Me too doesn't make that much sense but PhDs admissions aren't shopped for in the marketplace, and like she said, she applied for a PhD and was admitted for a masters on scholarship ... Hard to turn down a scholarship from Harvard. I agree with you but making it seem like courses should be selected with VOs in mind is where we defer. Time2win: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Time2win(m): 6:19pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
CptCharlesVane: He has a daring spirit. The V.Os was like, if you like let Trump issue you letter, we no gree. Well nothing is impossible, he will scale through. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Time2win(m): 6:20pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
CptCharlesVane:We are all saying this because it's Harvard University and that's what the V.Os are against. School name won't make them bend their standard |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by MyCaseIsDiffere(f): 6:29pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Big congrats brotherly. I tap into your mist of the year testimony. Keep soaring. ValentinoPerez: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by dimejalex(m): 6:29pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
marcDgreat:the deficit is 47000$ I did not write sat i graduate in 2015 the school is East Tennessee state university for my bachelor degree in business managerial economic am 21year |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by CptCharlesVane: 6:30pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
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| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Dipro: 6:56pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Approved transcript Abuja Embassy 26th June 7:30am Family of 3 There were only 2 VO’s.. One middle age white lady in her early 40’s who was dishing out pink paper after much drilling., and an old man in his early 60’s who was very slow, he denied the two ppl in front of us, the first one a man, and next a lady and her two teenage daughters. My Wife was with all the documents because she’s the F1, while I was carrying our 6 months old daughter, and standing besides her. VO: Good morning Spouse: Good morning VO: Pass me the passports and I-20 forms Spouse: Here you go VO: (He looks at it confused because my passport and I-20 was first) Spouse: (Cuts in) I am the primary applicant VO: Oh your passport should come first Spouse: I’m sorry, that was a mistake VO: That’s fine (typed for 45 secs) VO: When did you get your first degree ?(Typing) Spouse: 2014 VO: What have you been doing since then ? Spouse: I have been working VO: what do you do? Spouse: I am a legal practitioner VO: Why Intl peace and conflict resolution? Spouse: IPCR will give me the qualifications that I need to take up a job with the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), and also, in the long run it will give me the requisite skills and knowledge that I need to begin my own NGO focusing on Intl peace and conflict resolution particularly in the middle belt. VO: Did you apply to other schools ? Spouse: I applied to two other schools, Umass and Columbia University VO: Did you get admit from any Spouse: Yes, from UMASS Boston, but it was a conditional admit, I will have to go through an ISSP program for 9 months before I proceed to masters program and the fees was very high, so I decided to settle for Arcadia University VO: Who is sponsoring you? Spouse: it is co sponsored by my husband and I (Spouse points at me, and I looked straight in his (VO) eyes and nod my head) VO: (Looks at me) What do you do? Me: I am the Chief Executive of xyz.. we are into logistics, sales and supplies of steel rod for building and construction works VO: Can I have the SOA Spouse: Here you go VO: This is 3 statements of accounts Spouse: Yes, one is our joint account, the other is his personal account and the last is his company account VO: (looks at the SOA very very well and put it besides him and asked me) How many workers do you have ? Me: Logistic section 16, rod section 8, total 24. VO: so if you travel to the US now what will happen to your business?? Me: I don’t plan on staying with them all through her program, I am going with them now to spend a month to make sure they are settled in and make an arrangement with a baby sitter that will care for our daughter while she is busy with school VO: (nod his head like, impressed, then looks at my wife) Three years ago you were both denied a visa in Lagos (Typing) Spouse: Yes but that was a visit visa VO: Oh this is a student visa (nod his head) do you live in Lagos? Spouse: No, we live in PH VO: Do you have another child? Spouse: No VO: (removes our I-20 forms from our passports and gave them to my wife) Keep these forms you will need them at the POE. Spouse: (took them from him) okay thank you VO: (picks up our SOA and told us) If these statements are fraudulent or forged you risk being banned for life, should I proceed with the application? Spouse: Yes VO: hands her a white paper and said I have given you a conditional approval, I said conditional because I need to verify the authenticity of these account statements. Spouse: Okay thank you.. No other document was requested and the interview lasted just 4-5 minutes We were placed on AP for 8 business days, and finally when I tracked it on Tuesday July 9th it showed “Issued” ***Submit your case/petition to God with earnest prayers, because if God be for you nothing can stop you. He said behold I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it. You need to personalise the prayers and imagine what you want to happen on that day of the interview and begin to affirm it and declare it to God. He is the creator and the VO’s are His creation, He will turn their minds around for you and they have no other choice but to favour you. Finally, fill your ds-160 form very very well, take much time to go through it and make sure there is no error, I spent 11 days going over our ds-160 form s and making corrections anywhere I feel something isn’t right, and I submitted 4 days prior to the interview. On behalf of my wife and daughter, very special thanks to @Lagosismyhome, @Brown2green, for your answers to my questions., and to @Walspring for helping us with the SEVIS fee payment. May the good Lord open the doors of favour to you all that no man can shut it. And to all the contributors on this great forum and those preparing for their interview, I know that you will come here to share your testimonies. God bless you all richly. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Davidkking(m): 7:10pm On Jul 11, 2019*. Modified: 7:30pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Dipro: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by MyCaseIsDiffere(f): 7:34pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
fairheart:Thank you so much, sir. Your contributions and assistance to all, earns you a certain place of respect in my heart. To everyone who contributed, thanks a great deal. I am humbled. Here is a chronological break down of my US voyages: Got the first B1 while living in Europe as a master's student in 2012. Used it severally before renewing via Dropbox. I never stayed beyond 2months. I relocated back to Nigeria and still maintained my B1. During one of my trips from Nigeria to the US, I was denied entry in April, 2015. I had been stamped in by the immigration officer. I was about to retrieve my suitcases when an elderly Nigerian lady asked for directions to her connecting gate. She seemed really lost. I promised to help her get to her gate; but told her to go get her bags first. While waiting for her, immigration police men came. They asked to know why I was just standing. I told them I was waiting for someone. Mama came, they asked if we were together. She said yes, I said no, that I actually just met her. Our answers contradicted. We were then taken for secondary checking. Mama started crying, they eventually let her go. Over confidence finished me. They went through my laptop, phone, email box, everything. Eventually, they found out I only had $100 on me for a 6months trip. My journey also still needed a train journey before I get to my final destination. They asked to see the ticket but I didn't have it on me. I told them, I knew my way around and could easily get a Mega Bus ticket, Greyhound or Amtrack on my own. And since I wasn't sure of landing time, I waiting to buy it at the station. I needed just about $50 for the ticket. My case was transferred from one officer to the other, eventually I was informed that my visa would be cancelled and I would be sent back home. I was not banned. I was allowed to call just one person. I called one of my uncles in that particular state. He wasn't the one I intended visiting, so he didn't know about my trip. Anyways, he came to the airport with his lawyer immediately but was not allowed to see me. Uncle contacted my parents in Nigeria, Pops started pulling all strings possible but it wasn't to be. I was returned to Nigeria and my family were super supporting. Pops man went to glory before the case was resolved. I just didn't bother anymore. In November of 2017, I went back for another interview and was granted without so much questioning. I mentioned I would be in the States for 2months, although I was stamped in for 6months. It was at the conference I went for, that I got information about the Harvard link. So I started the process immediately. I was with my uncle, the one who came to the airport in 2015. But I later went to visit a friend who was about to put to bed. She gave birth but had complications. Both herself and the baby had to go through surgery. I couldn't just leave like that. Her husband pleaded that I wait back to assist them. I know, I was foolish to have decided to stay back. I also used that period to communicate with school, did all the necessary things and then came home with my i-20 in April of 2018. Some people advised that I could convert my B1 to F1 without leaving the US, but I didn't have the proper information. I also wanted to make sure I do things right. Harvard is in Boston, my said friend lives in Chicago, so in that area, I am clear. I went for my first F1 interview on the 1st of August, 2018 and went for the other three within three weeks. I got expedited dates. The last lady that interviewed me was mad at how I got a new date within 2 days. She didn't bother asking any question, she just denied me. When I queried, she said she didn't need to ask any question. I told her my admission was at stake. She got mad and shouted back, " then study in Nigeria." I haven't travelled to the US since the refusals. I had issues with my job as a lecturer due to my extended holiday. My parents have two schools, I currently manage one. My first masters is different from the current one. My uncle whose account I am using as a support document, mostly lives in Nigeria. He only goes to the US for official reasons. My scholarship covers full tuition with some stipends. I also have a letter for GA position. HU needed additional financial background, in case a student fails to meet up with their academic grades required to maintain the scholarship. So big Uncle fixed a certain sum to that effect. I hope, I have been able to answer all the questions raised. I am set to reapply. My school is ready to support in any way. I am willing to take every advice and criticism. I love you all with the love of Christ. God bless your sweet hearts. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by MyCaseIsDiffere(f): 7:52pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Dipro:Wow! A mighty congratulations to you and your family. I rejoice with you. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Tohajan: 7:57pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Dipro:Congrats |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 8:01pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
It is okay. Tell your school to contact the embassy for you. It is Harvard and so they wield considerable influence, hopefully your case isnt so critical. Truth be told, I sense your refusals were caused due to overstay. I hope you get it this time. t MyCaseIsDiffere: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by xcaper(m): 8:22pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Congratulations, family of three . First time am seeing this here this year . Dipro: |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Time2win(m): 8:32pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
MyCaseIsDiffere:Which trip was in November 2018 that you stayed 5months according to your 1st post or did you mean November 2017? That must be a typo from you. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Time2win(m): 8:33pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
fairheart:She said the school has done that but Embassy maintained their stand. The case looks complex but not impossible to overcome. |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by LagosismyHome(f): 8:33pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Dipro:Brilliant , love it that the family is together . Congrats , May God bless your family's new journey |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by LagosismyHome(f): 8:43pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
ValentinoPerez:congrats God bless your new journey |
| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by abidemi90: 8:55pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
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| Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by CptCharlesVane: 9:30pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
@Mycaseisdiffere Have you booked an appointment yet? Since this is a new year, you can try again. I was also surprised how you were able to get 4 apointments in the same month, maybe why they got so furious with the denials. New year, new hopes. You've been to the US many times so it should be good. Good luck! |
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