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| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 8:32am On Jul 25, 2019 |
TruthinAction:This is the stupidest comment ever if you can't discern the outcome of what will happen to Adam and Eve! You come on a public forum to utter such profound statement yet you can't explain what are the criteria of Salvation except foolishly asserting the belief in Jesus when you don't even know what it really means to believe in Jesus! ![]() People like you are just hypocritically envious of pure worship but lacks the knowledge to back up your hatred for the truth! Romans 10:2-3 ![]() Imagine after uttering this gibberish and been scrutinized to see how far you know about Salvation you stupidly say 'Keep your opinion'. So what made you come publicly with your own useless personal opinion in the first place when you don't want to hear other people's opinion? ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by TruthinAction: 9:10am On Jul 25, 2019 |
Maximus69:No one is given the ministry to discern where a specific person will end up in. We preach the gospel in generic terms. Those who believe in Jesus and walk in the light of God’s word will be saved and those who don't believe will be damned. Concerning those who lived before Jesus came, it is God alone that searches the heart that can pass judgment. You don't have the moral right to pass judgment on anyone. You have to be concerned about your salvation and helping others to find salvation. Concerning the Jehovah Witness organization, I reaffirm my stand that they are wolves in sheep's clothing. They are the most dishonest sect I have ever seen and they refute every truth the Bible teaches. They are anti Christ. They are preparing souls for the very hell they don't believe exist. And so many are in hell because of their false doctrines. I feel very sorry for those that have been brainwashed by their doctrines. If you are one of them, I am so sorry for you because you are completely lost unless you embrace the gospel of our Lord Jesus. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by TruthinAction: 9:13am On Jul 25, 2019 |
Maximus69:What really concerns you with where Adam and Eve will end up? You should be more concerned about your salvation. If you are not born again, you will end up in hell. Give your life to Jesus if you haven't done so. This is all that matters. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 10:28am On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija: Jozzy4:Peter, James, John and the other disciples of Jesus had faith in him. They also obeyed Jesus command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. The Bible also shows that Jesus had other disciples, but when he told them of the importance of feeding on his flesh and blood, they would not continue with him any more. In the account of John 6, here are the point Jesus made. Having faith in the him will lead to everlasting life Jn 6:40. Unless you Eat the flesh and drink the blood, you have no life Jn 6:53. Promises of resurrection is hung on having faith in Jesus, believing that his sayings means life, eating and feeding on his blood and flesh Jn 6:40,47,52-59. It was for the reason that he mentioned the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood that many who were his disciples left him. Jesus true disciples of the first century didn't see the partaking of the emblem as abracadabra or something that could be dispense with, Jesus was their passover who was sacrifice. 1 Co 5:7. Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship. So no, having faith is Jesus and believing in him is not enough. We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we must also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ. In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra. Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Janosky: 11:52am On Jul 25, 2019 |
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| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Janosky: 11:56am On Jul 25, 2019 |
TruthinAction:Sorry for yourself, Bro .... Jehovah passed judgment on Adam as well as the wicked world of Noah's day , King Herod,Sennacherib, Goliath and Pharoah and also Sodom and Gomorrah. Those ones can NEVER taste life, their case judged and closed kpatakpata ! You don't seem to know the Jesus you claim to follow.... How can a man claim to know the signpost of his future, when he's blissfully ignorant of his past... |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 3:55pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:I read this and I weep for you. Will respond soon |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
TruthinAction:From Genesis to Revelations the mention of Adam and Eve continued to ring because they're the ones who directly rejected God's ridership, that's why the message of how God's ridership {God's government} will be restored is very important! Daniel 2:44 Jesus did not preach about Salvation Sir, his main message is about God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:10, 10:15, 12:28, 21:31,43, Mark 1:15, 4:26, 9:47 It's only those who gets the sense of God's Kingdom that can be SAVED { Luke 18:16,22:16} otherwise there is NO WAY for you to have SALVATION! So go and collect all the money you've given your Pastors back from them because they taught you nothing beneficial and that means you're doomed! ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 4:17pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:St. Luke 23:28 But Jesus turned and said to them, " Daughters of Jerusalem, don't weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 4:26pm On Jul 25, 2019*. Modified: 4:43pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:They left him because they were dull in hearing thinking he meant a literal EATING . like You are doing . you ain't different from them. He clarifies " The flesh is of no use at all, my words are spirit" . Literal Eating can't give you LIFE . its the spiritual aspect below that gives life. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, What gives eternal life as written above ? John 6Are u aware that some became sick and even died after partaking of emblem ? Something that gives LIFE should not Create Death as well. Emblem has a different purpose Jesus said : this cup means the New covenant . he was instituting a covenant NOT literal eating that gives life Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship.John 6:40 says faith in Jesus gives eternal life, Are u calling our Lord a liar because your understanding of his words his shallow ? We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we must also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood.Of course, The Thief on Jesus side did that before he could have LIFe right ? Don't forget Jesus said " UNLESS " . this thing should have NP exception. And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ.Jesus said : " The FLESH is of no use at all " . so he wasn't referring to literal eating . In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra.When Adam and Eve sinned, God quickly blocked the tree of life, cos eating it would give them life Fast forward to apostles day, If eating the bread and wine gives LIFE , It won't cause death or sickness for anyone. , in fact it should be encouraged to gain LIFE , no matter either u sin or not . . But the reverse was the case. Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it?Its like telling me Governing Body can say tomorrow that Rich man and Lazarus is a literal story and I will believe, when there are many Holes I discovered myself. They just can't ! They need to prove it soundly for me to accept, Here you are struggling to tell why after Jesus institute , a man still gain LIFE without eating Jesus blood and flesh ? now asking nonsense question on something you are yet to prove soundly ... Partaking the emblem doesn't give LIFE, its not what Jesus was speaking at John 6 . when instituting the emblem, Jesus use it to establish NEW COVENANT . NOT as a way to gain LIFE. That way the thief on his side Is exempted, but He can gain LIFE because what is required is Faith in Jesus NOT eating bread or flesh that is of no use at all to gain life |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 4:42pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:If that's his problem and he feels it's cheating, let him come and eat of the emblem nah! ![]() Nobody holds anyone's hands not to eat or drink! ![]() Why is he afraid of eating it during the Memorial Day in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses if he feels everyone should eat it nah? ![]() All these story is useless! ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 4:46pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Maximus69:Am not saying he shouldn't eat, the issue is saying when Jesus said UNLESS you eat my flesh and drink my blood , he was referring to memorial ... Which is outrightly wrong, Yet someone Gained life that very day without Eating literal bread. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 4:47pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:And if they can prove it soundly to you? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 4:48pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:Address the points and let's see how sound you are in this regard ! |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:Hooooooooooooo Jozzy! Jozzy!! Jozzy!!! Instead of arguing to debunk his claim, why not just play along with him? ![]() I understood him perfectly, so instead of arguing about whether his assertion is wrong or not, why not tell him to go and eat of the emblem after all during the memorial, nobody holds his hands back from eating or drinking? ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:13pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:I'm responding to all your post and will respond to your latest. However, just out of curiosity, what if they can prove it soundly to you? Will that change your mind? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 5:27pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:You are only creating a fantasy. Respond first. Let us see how sound you are ! After that your fantasy can be addressed. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:32pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:You are just giving him assignments ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:Millions of righteous and unrighteous persons will be resurrected for the purpose of gaining life. People who never partake of the flesh and wine . Hey! Jesus must be lying that its a must ? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:40pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jessicha:Looking for excuse to escape responsibility? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other ancient servants of God will be resurrected to life in heaven without partaking the communion. They live at their own time and satisfied the requirement for God's favour and remembrance |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:42pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jozzy4:Eating this flesh suppose to give life o. but it still caused sickness and death , tell me something ? ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:43pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:Useless excuse Are there unrighteous people presently? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:They took the emblem before it was instituted! ![]() |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:46pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Maximus69:Yes o. Since the emblem is important for life how else can anyone gain life without Jesus flesh ? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:47pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jessicha:St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son, St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment. The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:50pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Maximus69:Jessicha I thought you had been following my post and response to Jozzy4? You should. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:52pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:For what purpose are they raised ? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:54pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:Did Jesus came to give eternal life to all humans or only those of his era ? |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 6:07pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jessicha:St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son, St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment. The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly. Did you not read? Judgement. Those who did good to resurrection of life, the evil to a resurrection of judgment. |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 8:15pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
rottennaija:Rom 6:7 a dead man is free from his sin, 23 " wage of sin is death " . so far death has set tgem free from their sins, The point of doing good and evil was after their ressurection . Not what they did before they die. So definitely some unrighteous ones during that time Turn to Doing good and gain life , did they eat Jesus flesh and blood in your idea ? No . |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 8:23pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jessicha:cc: rottennaija answer this . Jozzy4 , Barristter07 |
| Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Jessicha:Haaaaaaaaa! Jehovah's Witnesses! Who told you that the wages of sin is JUST common DEATH? Romans 6:7,23 No ooooooooo, We will not agree with that! ![]() God must burn either their bodies or souls or spirits or the three together inside fire at least for some times before resurrection and after resurrection God will now judge them AGAIN for their PAST deeds before returning them to hell fire for the second leg of their match! ![]() You never read am for Revelations 20:11-15? ![]() Abeg no spoil show for Pastor Rotten nah, why you come dey scrutinized everything Pastor talk? ![]() |
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