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Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 8:32am On Jul 25, 2019
TruthinAction:
Please, accept Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour and attend a Bible believing church where Jesus is glorified. Jehovah witness are not Christians. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.
This is the stupidest comment ever if you can't discern the outcome of what will happen to Adam and Eve!

You come on a public forum to utter such profound statement yet you can't explain what are the criteria of Salvation except foolishly asserting the belief in Jesus when you don't even know what it really means to believe in Jesus! cheesy

People like you are just hypocritically envious of pure worship but lacks the knowledge to back up your hatred for the truth! Romans 10:2-3 cheesy

Imagine after uttering this gibberish and been scrutinized to see how far you know about Salvation you stupidly say 'Keep your opinion'.

So what made you come publicly with your own useless personal opinion in the first place when you don't want to hear other people's opinion? cheesy
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by TruthinAction: 9:10am On Jul 25, 2019
Maximus69:
This is the stupidest comment ever if you can't discern the outcome of what will happen to Adam and Eve!

You come on a public forum to utter such profound statement yet you can't explain what are the criteria of Salvation except foolishly asserting the belief in Jesus when you don't even know what it really means to believe in Jesus! cheesy

People like you are just hypocritically envious of pure worship but lacks the knowledge to back up your hatred for the truth! Romans 10:2-3 cheesy

Imagine after uttering this gibberish and been scrutinized to see how far you know about Salvation you stupidly say 'Keep your opinion'.

So what made you come publicly with your own useless personal opinion in the first place when you don't want to hear other people's opinion? cheesy
No one is given the ministry to discern where a specific person will end up in. We preach the gospel in generic terms. Those who believe in Jesus and walk in the light of God’s word will be saved and those who don't believe will be damned.

Concerning those who lived before Jesus came, it is God alone that searches the heart that can pass judgment. You don't have the moral right to pass judgment on anyone. You have to be concerned about your salvation and helping others to find salvation.

Concerning the Jehovah Witness organization, I reaffirm my stand that they are wolves in sheep's clothing. They are the most dishonest sect I have ever seen and they refute every truth the Bible teaches. They are anti Christ. They are preparing souls for the very hell they don't believe exist. And so many are in hell because of their false doctrines. I feel very sorry for those that have been brainwashed by their doctrines. If you are one of them, I am so sorry for you because you are completely lost unless you embrace the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by TruthinAction: 9:13am On Jul 25, 2019
Maximus69:
That's what you should have said long before now, instead of scrambling around to fabricate what you can not explain with the scriptures!

Please what exactly did they do or how exactly did they plead for forgiveness or how did they show remorse for their intentional disobedience?

If the sin Adam and Eve committed were atoned for before they gave birth to children, then how come their children still inherited the sin that's been cleansed {atoned for}? Genesis 3:16-19, Romans 3:23 huh

God's word said it's after his kingdom is established here on earth that all the woes associated with Adamic sin will be gone for good! Psalms 49:7-10, Daniel 2:44, Isaiah 65:24

And Jesus admonished all faithful people to keep praying for God's kingdom because it's the only solution to all our problems! Matthew 6:9-10 Revelations 21:3-4

But you're saying that God has atoned for the sin committed by Adam and Eve, yet their progenies still inherited what has been atoned for! Romans 5:12 undecided

You should know that you're empty regarding sacred issues like this Sir!

So when next you see Jehovah's Witnesses been accused of heresy, try to listen attentively, investigate thoroughly and humbly asked for efficacious and convincing explanations before diving in the matter that's far above your understanding, instead of jumping in only to start arguing blindly! 1Timothy 6:4 wink
What really concerns you with where Adam and Eve will end up? You should be more concerned about your salvation. If you are not born again, you will end up in hell. Give your life to Jesus if you haven't done so. This is all that matters.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 10:28am On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
In the night of his death, Jesus instituted the memorial of his death, thereby bringing into force the new covenant. The new covenant came into effect after Jesus death where his blood was poured for the forgiveness of sins.

Jesus promised the man on the cross or stake with Jesus, to be with him in paradise. Was the new covenant in effect? Yes (though one might say that technically, the new covenant may not have been since Jesus had not paid the ransom yet. But the event was in motion, he had already started it the night before where he broke the bread and gave the wine) Was there a different time between the night before and the day after? Yes Will the man gain life? Yes. Will he gain everlasting life in heaven despite not eating bread and drinking the cup? Yes.

What are the similarities between him, John, and other ancient servant of God who despite not taking the bread and cup but will still gain life in heaven? The circumstances around it. In the case of John and others, he wasn't alive when the new covenant came into effect and the bread and wine was shared. In the case of this man, he met Jesus for the first time, he was in jail (don't know how long he was there), the bread and wine was shared the night before and most of all, he showed exceeding faith, such faith as had not been found in Israel. Besides, he was in the final chapter of his life (as Jesus' earthly life was), he wouldn't have such opportunities ever again. But from his expression of faith, it's obvious if had another another chance, he would have been a disciple of Jesus.

Let me explain further.

I have been trying to work for shell since I graduated from the university. (I came out with good grades) Shell has about 7 stages of recruitment before anyone can get in. Most times, I'll get thought the first 3 but not further. I cannot work for shell, I cannot enjoy all they enjoy.

One day, by happenstance, I meet the GM of shell, for whatever reason, he likes me and feels love for me. He made a declaration to offer me employment in shell. Wow, without passing through their recruitment process, I have the job already. This scenario play out frequently in many places. Governors, Presidents promises people direct job offer without them passing through the recruitment processes. Business men giving people loans without them having to pass through the processes others pass. It is called favour or grace.

The thief hung with Jesus was a man of exceeding faith, who expresses faith in a dying man when others didn't. He had a special favour and grace. No one can take that away from him, Jesus had promised him heavenly life in paradise and he will get it.

Throughout Jesus earthly life, we find examples of people who received divine favour in their lives through their exceeding faith....
Jozzy4:
grin grin grin grin Welcome back from your delusion

The highlighted lies the answer you seek. Eating Jesus flesh and blood means putting faith in him ( John 3:16) . it has nothing to do with eating some bread and wine. !!!

Jesus explains " it is the spirit that is LIFE giving, The flesh is of no use at all the sayings that i have spoken to you are spirit and are life " John 6:63

Listen again, the whole abracadabra of eating flesh to gain life is NOT the point , the flesh ( either you have cannibalism mindset or you tagged it to the figurative bread IS OF NO USE AT ALL to give LIFE ) adjust your thinking.
Peter, James, John and the other disciples of Jesus had faith in him. They also obeyed Jesus command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. The Bible also shows that Jesus had other disciples, but when he told them of the importance of feeding on his flesh and blood, they would not continue with him any more.

In the account of John 6, here are the point Jesus made. Having faith in the him will lead to everlasting life Jn 6:40. Unless you Eat the flesh and drink the blood, you have no life Jn 6:53. Promises of resurrection is hung on having faith in Jesus, believing that his sayings means life, eating and feeding on his blood and flesh Jn 6:40,47,52-59.

It was for the reason that he mentioned the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood that many who were his disciples left him. Jesus true disciples of the first century didn't see the partaking of the emblem as abracadabra or something that could be dispense with, Jesus was their passover who was sacrifice. 1 Co 5:7.

Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship.

So no, having faith is Jesus and believing in him is not enough. We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we must also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ.

In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra.

Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Janosky: 11:52am On Jul 25, 2019
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Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Janosky: 11:56am On Jul 25, 2019
TruthinAction:
No one is given the ministry to discern where a specific person will end up in. We preach the gospel in generic terms. Those who believe in Jesus and walk in the light of God’s word will be saved and those who don't believe will be damned.

Concerning those who lived before Jesus came, it is God alone that searches the heart that can pass judgment. You don't have the moral right to pass judgment on anyone. You have to be concerned about your salvation and helping others to find salvation.
Sorry for yourself, Bro ....
Jehovah passed judgment on Adam as well as the wicked world of Noah's day , King Herod,Sennacherib, Goliath and Pharoah and also Sodom and Gomorrah.
Those ones can NEVER taste life, their case judged and closed kpatakpata !
You don't seem to know the Jesus you claim to follow....
How can a man claim to know the signpost of his future, when he's blissfully ignorant of his past...
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 3:55pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
Peter, James, John and the other disciples of Jesus had faith in him. They also obeyed Jesus command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. The Bible also shows that Jesus had other disciples, but when he told them of the importance of feeding on his flesh and blood, they would not continue with him any more.

In the account of John 6, here are the point Jesus made. Having faith in the him will lead to everlasting life Jn 6:40. Unless you Eat the flesh and drink the blood, you have no life Jn 6:53. Promises of resurrection is hung on having faith in Jesus, believing that his sayings means life, eating and feeding on his blood and flesh Jn 6:40,47,52-59.

It was for the reason that he mentioned the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood that many who were his disciples left him. Jesus true disciples of the first century didn't see the partaking of the emblem as abracadabra or something that could be dispense with, Jesus was their passover who was sacrifice. 1 Co 5:7.

Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship.

So no, having faith is Jesus and believing in him is not enough. We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we must also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ.

In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra.

Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it?
I read this and I weep for you. Will respond soon
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jul 25, 2019
TruthinAction:
What really concerns you with where Adam and Eve will end up? You should be more concerned about your salvation. If you are not born again, you will end up in hell. Give your life to Jesus if you haven't done so. This is all that matters.
From Genesis to Revelations the mention of Adam and Eve continued to ring because they're the ones who directly rejected God's ridership, that's why the message of how God's ridership {God's government} will be restored is very important! Daniel 2:44

Jesus did not preach about Salvation Sir, his main message is about God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:10, 10:15, 12:28, 21:31,43, Mark 1:15, 4:26, 9:47

It's only those who gets the sense of God's Kingdom that can be SAVED { Luke 18:16,22:16} otherwise there is NO WAY for you to have SALVATION!

So go and collect all the money you've given your Pastors back from them because they taught you nothing beneficial and that means you're doomed!undecided
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 4:17pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
I read this and I weep for you. Will respond soon
St. Luke 23:28 But Jesus turned and said to them, " Daughters of Jerusalem, don't weep for me, but weep for yourselves and for your children.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4:
rottennaija:
Peter, James, John and the other disciples of Jesus had faith in him. They also obeyed Jesus command to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
The Bible also shows that Jesus had other disciples, but when he told them of the importance of feeding on his flesh and blood, they would not continue with him any more.
They left him because they were dull in hearing thinking he meant a literal EATING . like You are doing . you ain't different from them. He clarifies " The flesh is of no use at all, my words are spirit" .

Literal Eating can't give you LIFE . its the spiritual aspect below that gives life.


40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life,


What gives eternal life as written above ?

John 6
In the account of John 6, here are the point Jesus made. Having faith in the him will lead to everlasting life Jn 6:40. Unless you Eat the flesh and drink the blood, you have no life Jn 6:53. Promises of resurrection is hung on having faith in Jesus, believing that his sayings means life, eating and feeding on his blood and flesh Jn 6:40,47,52-59.

It was for the reason that he mentioned the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood that many who were his disciples left him. Jesus true disciples of the first century didn't see the partaking of the emblem as abracadabra or something that could be dispense with, Jesus was their passover who was sacrifice. 1 Co 5:7.
Are u aware that some became sick and even died after partaking of emblem ? Something that gives LIFE should not Create Death as well. Emblem has a different purpose Jesus said : this cup means the New covenant . he was instituting a covenant NOT literal eating that gives life


Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship.

So no, having faith is Jesus and believing in him is not enough.
John 6:40 says faith in Jesus gives eternal life, Are u calling our Lord a liar because your understanding of his words his shallow ?

We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we must also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
Of course, The Thief on Jesus side did that before he could have LIFe right ?

Don't forget Jesus said " UNLESS " . this thing should have NP exception.

And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ.
Jesus said : " The FLESH is of no use at all " . so he wasn't referring to literal eating .

In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra.
When Adam and Eve sinned, God quickly blocked the tree of life, cos eating it would give them life


Fast forward to apostles day, If eating the bread and wine gives LIFE , It won't cause death or sickness for anyone. , in fact it should be encouraged to gain LIFE , no matter either u sin or not . . But the reverse was the case.

Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it?
Its like telling me Governing Body can say tomorrow that Rich man and Lazarus is a literal story and I will believe, when there are many Holes I discovered myself. They just can't ! They need to prove it soundly for me to accept, Here you are struggling to tell why after Jesus institute , a man still gain LIFE without eating Jesus blood and flesh ? now asking nonsense question on something you are yet to prove soundly ... Partaking the emblem doesn't give LIFE, its not what Jesus was speaking at John 6 . when instituting the emblem, Jesus use it to establish NEW COVENANT . NOT as a way to gain LIFE.

That way the thief on his side Is exempted, but He can gain LIFE because what is required is Faith in Jesus NOT eating bread or flesh that is of no use at all to gain life
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 4:42pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
They left him because they were dull in hearing thinking he meant a literal EATING . like You are doing . you ain't different from them. He clarifies " The flesh is of no use at all, my words are spirit" .

Literal Eating can't give you LIFE . its the spiritual aspect below that gives life.


40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life,


What gives eternal life as written above ?



Are u aware that some became sick and even died after partaking of emblem ? Something that gives LIFE should not Create Death as well. Emblem has a different purpose Jesus said : this cup means the New covenant . he was instituting a covenant NOT literal eating that gives life




John 6:40 says faith in Jesus gives eternal life, Are u calling our Lord a liar because your understanding of his words his shallow ?



Of course, The Thief on Jesus side did that before he could have LIFe right ?

Don't forget Jesus said " UNLESS " . this thing should have NP exception.



Jesus said : " The FLESH is of no use at all " . so he wasn't referring to literal eating .



When Adam and Eve sinned, God quickly blocked the tree of life, cos eating it would give them life


Fast forward to apostles day, If eating the bread and wine gives LIFE , It won't cause death or sickness for anyone. , in fact it should be encouraged to gain LIFE , no matter either u sin or not . . But the reverse was the case.



Its like telling me Governing Body can say tomorrow that Rich man and Lazarus is a literal story and I will believe, when there are many Holes I discovered myself. They just can't ! ... Partaking the emblem doesn't give LIFE, its not what Jesus was speaking at John 6 . when instituting the emblem, Jesus use it to establish NEW COVENANT . NOT as a way to gain LIFE.

That way the thief on his side Is exempted, but He can gain LIFE because what is required is Faith in Jesus NOT eating bread or flesh that is of no use at all
If that's his problem and he feels it's cheating, let him come and eat of the emblem nah! cheesy
Nobody holds anyone's hands not to eat or drink! cheesy

Why is he afraid of eating it during the Memorial Day in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses if he feels everyone should eat it nah? cheesy

All these story is useless! cheesy
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 4:46pm On Jul 25, 2019
Maximus69:
If that's his problem and he feels it's cheating, let him come and eat of the emblem nah! cheesy
Nobody holds anyone's hands not to eat or drink! cheesy

Why is he afraid of eating it during the Memorial Day in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses if he feels everyone should eat it nah? cheesy

All these story is useless! cheesy
Am not saying he shouldn't eat, the issue is saying when Jesus said UNLESS you eat my flesh and drink my blood , he was referring to memorial ... Which is outrightly wrong, Yet someone Gained life that very day without Eating literal bread.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 4:47pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
They left him because they were dull in hearing thinking he meant a literal EATING . like You are doing . you ain't different from them. He clarifies " The flesh is of no use at all, my words are spirit" .

Literal Eating can't give you LIFE . its the spiritual aspect below that gives life.


40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life,


What gives eternal life as written above ?



Are u aware that some became sick and even died after partaking of emblem ? Something that gives LIFE should not Create Death as well. Emblem has a different purpose Jesus said : this cup means the New covenant . he was instituting a covenant NOT literal eating that gives life




John 6:40 says faith in Jesus gives eternal life, Are u calling our Lord a liar because your understanding of his words his shallow ?



Of course, The Thief on Jesus side did that before he could have LIFe right ?

Don't forget Jesus said " UNLESS " . this thing should have NP exception.



Jesus said : " The FLESH is of no use at all " . so he wasn't referring to literal eating .



When Adam and Eve sinned, God quickly blocked the tree of life, cos eating it would give them life


Fast forward to apostles day, If eating the bread and wine gives LIFE , It won't cause death or sickness for anyone. , in fact it should be encouraged to gain LIFE , no matter either u sin or not . . But the reverse was the case.



Its like telling me Governing Body can say tomorrow that Rich man and Lazarus is a literal story and I will believe, when there are many Holes I discovered myself. They just can't ! They need to prove it soundly for me to accept, Here you are struggling to tell why after Jesus institute , a man still gain LIFE without eating Jesus blood and flesh ? now asking nonsense question on something you are yet to prove soundly ... Partaking the emblem doesn't give LIFE, its not what Jesus was speaking at John 6 . when instituting the emblem, Jesus use it to establish NEW COVENANT . NOT as a way to gain LIFE.

That way the thief on his side Is exempted, but He can gain LIFE because what is required is Faith in Jesus NOT eating bread or flesh that is of no use at all to gain life
And if they can prove it soundly to you?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 4:48pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
And if they can prove it soundly to you?
Address the points and let's see how sound you are in this regard !
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
Am not saying he shouldn't eat, the issue is saying when Jesus said UNLESS you eat my flesh and drink my blood , he was referring to memorial ... Which is outrightly wrong, Yet someone Gained life that very day without Eating literal bread.
Hooooooooooooo Jozzy! Jozzy!! Jozzy!!!

Instead of arguing to debunk his claim, why not just play along with him? cheesy

I understood him perfectly, so instead of arguing about whether his assertion is wrong or not, why not tell him to go and eat of the emblem after all during the memorial, nobody holds his hands back from eating or drinking? cheesy
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:13pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
Address the points and let's see how sound you are in this regard !
I'm responding to all your post and will respond to your latest. However, just out of curiosity, what if they can prove it soundly to you? Will that change your mind?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jozzy4: 5:27pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
I'm responding to all your post and will respond to your latest. However, just out of curiosity, what if they can prove it soundly to you? Will that change your mind?
You are only creating a fantasy.
Respond first. Let us see how sound you are ! After that your fantasy can be addressed.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:32pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
You are only creating a fantasy.
Respond first. Let us see how sound you are ! After that your fantasy can be addressed.
You are just giving him assignments cheesy
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
Peter, James, John and the other disciples of Jesus had faith in him. They also obeyed Jesus command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. The Bible also shows that Jesus had other disciples, but when he told them of the importance of feeding on his flesh and blood, they would not continue with him any more.

In the account of John 6, here are the point Jesus made. Having faith in the him will lead to everlasting life Jn 6:40. Unless you Eat the flesh and drink the blood, you have no life Jn 6:53. Promises of resurrection is hung on having faith in Jesus, believing that his sayings means life, eating and feeding on his blood and flesh Jn 6:40,47,52-59.

It was for the reason that he mentioned the eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood that many who were his disciples left him. Jesus true disciples of the first century didn't see the partaking of the emblem as abracadabra or something that could be dispense with, Jesus was their passover who was sacrifice. 1 Co 5:7.

Taking a lesson from Jewish way of worship under the mosaic law, the passover lamb was sacrifice and the passover lamb was eaten, by all Israelite and alien resident who accepted God's way of worship.

So no, having faith is Jesus and believing in him is not enough. We must believe in him that his sacrifice is enough to take away our sins, we must believe in his words which will mean life for us, we [color] must [/color] also obey his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood. And no, the whole point of eating his flesh and drinking is blood is not abracadabra anymore than eating of the passover lamb was. It's a very intrinsic part of our worship of God and Christ.

In Mt 28:20, Jesus true followers were to "Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands [Jesus gave.]" It does not belong to us to choose which part to obey and which part to avoid. Unless we pay lip service to our discipleship. And not, it's no abracadabra.

Which will make me ask you this. If the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to ask publish in their books that taking of the communion is OK for all Jws, will you partake of it?
Millions of righteous and unrighteous persons will be resurrected for the purpose of gaining life. People who never partake of the flesh and wine . Hey! Jesus must be lying that its a must ?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:40pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jessicha:
Millions of righteous and unrighteous persons will be resurrected for the purpose of gaining life. People who never partake of the flesh and wine . Hey! Jesus must be lying that its a must ?
Looking for excuse to escape responsibility? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other ancient servants of God will be resurrected to life in heaven without partaking the communion. They live at their own time and satisfied the requirement for God's favour and remembrance
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:42pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jozzy4:
Am not saying he shouldn't eat, the issue is saying when Jesus said UNLESS you eat my flesh and drink my blood , he was referring to memorial ... Which is outrightly wrong, Yet someone Gained life that very day without Eating literal bread.
Eating this flesh suppose to give life o. grin but it still caused sickness and death , tell me something ? cheesy
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:43pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
Looking for excuse to escape responsibility? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other ancient servants of God will be resurrected to life in heaven without partaking the communion. They live at their own time and satisfied the requirement for God's favour and remembrance
Useless excuse
Are there unrighteous people presently?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
Looking for excuse to escape responsibility? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and a host of other ancient servants of God will be resurrected to life in heaven without partaking the communion. They live at their own time and satisfied the requirement for God's favour and remembrance
They took the emblem before it was instituted! cheesy
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:46pm On Jul 25, 2019
Maximus69:
They took the emblem before it was instituted! cheesy
Yes o. Since the emblem is important for life grin how else can anyone gain life without Jesus flesh ?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:47pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jessicha:
Useless excuse
Are there unrighteous people presently?
St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son,

St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment.

The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 5:50pm On Jul 25, 2019
Maximus69:
They took the emblem before it was instituted! cheesy
Jessicha

I thought you had been following my post and response to Jozzy4? You should.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:52pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son,

St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment.

The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly.
For what purpose are they raised ?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 5:54pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
Jessicha

I thought you had been following my post and response to Jozzy4? You should.
Did Jesus came to give eternal life to all humans or only those of his era ?
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by rottennaija(op): 6:07pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jessicha:
For what purpose are they raised ?
St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son,

St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment.

The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly.

Did you not read? Judgement. Those who did good to resurrection of life, the evil to a resurrection of judgment.
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 8:15pm On Jul 25, 2019
rottennaija:
St. John 5:28 Don't be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God's Son,

St. John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to judgment.

The Acts 24:15 I have hope in God, just as these men do, that he will raise both the righteous and the ungodly.

Did you not read? Judgement. Those who did good to resurrection of life, the evil to a resurrection of judgment.
Rom 6:7 a dead man is free from his sin, 23 " wage of sin is death " . so far death has set tgem free from their sins, The point of doing good and evil was after their ressurection . Not what they did before they die. So definitely some unrighteous ones during that time Turn to Doing good and gain life , did they eat Jesus flesh and blood in your idea ? No .
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Jessicha(f): 8:23pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jessicha:
Did Jesus came to give eternal life to all humans or only those of his era ?
cc: rottennaija answer this . Jozzy4 , Barristter07
Re: What Does Being A Jehovah Witness Entail? And Is There A Place I Can Read About by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jul 25, 2019
Jessicha:
Rom 6:7 a dead man is free from his sin, 23 " wage of sin is death " . so far death has set tgem free from their sins, The point of doing good and evil was after their ressurection . Not what they did before they die. So definitely some unrighteous ones during that time Turn to Doing good and gain life , did they eat Jesus flesh and blood in your idea ? No .
Haaaaaaaaa!

Jehovah's Witnesses!

Who told you that the wages of sin is JUST common DEATH? Romans 6:7,23

No ooooooooo, We will not agree with that! angry

God must burn either their bodies or souls or spirits or the three together inside fire at least for some times before resurrection and after resurrection God will now judge them AGAIN for their PAST deeds before returning them to hell fire for the second leg of their match! angry

You never read am for Revelations 20:11-15? cheesy

Abeg no spoil show for Pastor Rotten nah, why you come dey scrutinized everything Pastor talk? angry
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