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Re: ...... by Empiree: 10:40am On Jul 25, 2019
LyfeJennings:


To be honest. My faith in God is lost.
you first need to restore your faith. You can't be praying while already lost faith in what you are doing

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Re: ...... by LyfeJennings(m): 11:28am On Jul 25, 2019
Empiree:
you first need to restore your faith. You can't be praying while already lost faith in what you are doing

God is a merciful God
I know He exists
He knows my struggle.
But what I don't understand is why all of this is happening together.
I'm so financially challenged
Things have taken turn from bad to worse.
I understand U knowledgeable about life and the many unseen instances
How do I go about life to get that which I want from life.
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:13am On Jul 26, 2019
LyfeJennings:


God is a merciful God
I know He exists
He knows my struggle.
But what I don't understand is why all of this is happening together.
I'm so financially challenged
Things have taken turn from bad to worse.
I understand U knowledgeable about life and the many unseen instances
How do I go about life to get that which I want from life.
Don't lose hope brother. It is part of life we all pass thru this sort of low point in our life, you only needs to be steadfast in your faith and continue to make dua. Always remember your prayer would not go waste for Allah is extremely merciful.

Engage more in asking Allah for forgiveness for Allah's promise in Surat Nuh would suffice all your need.

وَيُمۡدِدۡكُم بِأَمۡوَٲلٍ وَبَنِينَ وَيَجۡعَل لَّكُمۡ جَنَّـٰتٍ وَيَجۡعَل لَّكُمۡ أَنۡہَـٰرًا

And will help you with wealth and sons, and will assign unto you Gardens and will assign unto you rivers.

Q71:10-12

Above all make salawat Ala nabiy your second nature. Make whole lots of Darud for holy Prophet(saw) for any of your need and believe me after seeing the result you may not want to even engage in other prayers again.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:38am On Jul 26, 2019
Empiree:
you first need to restore your faith. You can't be praying while already lost faith in what you are doing
Very critical. Thats foundation upon which every other things are built.

I remember Ikupakuti statement on this he said " Is better to have FAITH (believe in Allah's Oneness) and continue "sining" than to be FAITHLESS (unbeliever) and continue doing good. Well this is just to underscore the need for faith first NOT an encouragement to engage in sin o lol.

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Re: ...... by Excel70: 3:37pm On Jul 26, 2019
LadunaI:

Don't lose hope brother. It is part of life we all pass thru this sort of low point in our life, you only needs to be steadfast in your faith and continue to make dua. Always remember your prayer would not go waste for Allah is extremely merciful.

Engage more in asking Allah for forgiveness for the promise Allah's in Surat Nuh would suffice all your need.

وَيُمۡدِدۡكُم بِأَمۡوَٲلٍ وَبَنِينَ وَيَجۡعَل لَّكُمۡ جَنَّـٰتٍ وَيَجۡعَل لَّكُمۡ أَنۡہَـٰرًا

And will help you with wealth and sons, and will assign unto you Gardens and will assign unto you rivers.

Q71:10-12

Above all make salawat Ala nabiy your second nature. Make whole lots of Darud for holy Prophet(saw) for any of your need and believe me after seeing the result you may not want to even engage in other prayers again.
Salam alaykum brother. Which salawat ala nabiy will you recommend

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 5:05pm On Jul 26, 2019
Excel70:

Salam alaykum brother. Which salawat ala nabiy will you recommend

1. Salat ibrahimiya
2. Salat Fatih
3. Dalailu khairat

I belief whatever salawat you do for holy Prophet(saw) is ok but pls NEVER abandoned Ibrahimiya. I do a lot of khairat and lately salat fatih base on recommendation from my sheikh but still engage in ibrahimiya as Defactor. I have tasted the fruit of these salawat and I can tell you they are wholesome though not fully with fatih. Thanks.
Re: ...... by Excel70: 5:17pm On Jul 26, 2019
LadunaI:


1. Salat ibrahimiya
2. Salat Fatih
3. Dalailu khairat

I belief whatever salawat you do for holy Prophet(saw) is ok but pls NEVER abandoned Ibrahimiya. I do a lot of khairat and lately salat fatih base on recommendation from my sheikh but still engage in ibrahimiya as Defactor. I have tasted the fruit of these salawat and I can tell you they are wholesome though not fully with fatih l. Thanks.
I heard you must receive permission from someone deep in salat fatih before you can receive the maximum benefit of reciting it.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 6:17pm On Jul 26, 2019
Excel70:

I heard you must receive permission from someone deep in salat fatih before you can receive the maximum benefit of reciting it.
Ummm...though I used to hear that as well but for me if you do it with noble intention for love of Prophet(saw), you think Allah will not reward you for your effort and sincerity?

Though mine is "accidental" I would say, been given to me my a known sheikh during conversion with him in my sleep, sort of encouragement to harness the potential of faith with what I have doing before ibramiya etc. So even if there is need be that you have to get it from sheikh, then Allah would bring succor someday. Continue engaging in what Allah has made easy for you.

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Re: ...... by Empiree: 11:35pm On Jul 26, 2019
Still open for discussions

Empiree:
Salaam Alaikum,

Let's talk about "iyepe tite" and khalwa (seclusion)


Allegations:


* Iyepe tite is ebo (shirk)? What does iyepe tite entails? Is there authentic version and is there counterfeit version or it is only one version?. Does Islam approves of this?. What's your opinion?.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu8GbNBBAE0&t=24s



* Khalwa: it is alleged that Sheikh Ahmad Tijani(ra) was in seclusion for 40 days or 40 years. I don't know which one. Whichever it is, there is hadith which impedes this practice. The hadith criticizes whoever misses three (3) consecutive Jummah. So does Khalwa means staying in seclusion without attending jummah weekly or praying daily obligatory salat in jamaat invalidates khalwa?. Is this khalwat valid?.


* What is valid khalwa in sharia?

Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:49am On Jul 27, 2019
Empiree:
Still open for discussions

Interesting question actually. Can you further explain the detail how this yepe tete is been done. The closely related thing I ever read regarding this is in Sahih Muslim when Holy Prophet(saw) said that whosoever his endeavor agree with some early prophet (as) then that would be ok.

I can't recall vividly the hadith, I will have to research again and dig it out. But the aspect of it that is tantamount to fortune telling would be strongly forbidden by sharia.

As regards khawal, one can see from story of earlier prophets and that of waliy like Jurail (before advent of holy Prophet(saw)) that these people engaged in one form of Khawal or the other, and this seem norm for would be favourite of God to engage in such spiritual exercise. Even the holy Prophet(saw) is not left out.

My take is that with advent of ISLAM the itikaf seems to have somewhat "abrogated" that practice and I believe if one is fortunate to witness Lailatul Qadr then the benefit accrued during that is far more BETTER than many months or year of khawal devoid of it.

Though while I will agree that khawal can still be engaged in provided is been confine to within the purview of sharia. However, I am still strongly believe that itikaf has been provided as a better alternative, though I think a time would come when the NEED for more spiritual development would require one to practice it. So for me, Khawal is a noble endeavor that been practice of holy men, and I think nothing is wrong with that if one is given the himma and strength to do it by Allah (swt). Allahu allam.

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Re: ...... by Empiree: 3:56am On Jul 27, 2019
LadunaI:

Interesting question actually. Can you further explain the detail how this yepe tete is been done. The closely related thing I ever read regarding this is in Sahih Muslim when Holy Prophet(saw) said that whosoever his endeavor agree with some early prophet (as) then that would be ok.

I can't recall vividly the hadith, I will have to research again and dig it out. But the aspect of it that is tantamount to fortune telling would be strongly forbidden by sharia.

JazakaAllahu Khayran. You are very correct. Read this thread if you can. Let me remind you that ikupakuti explained some details regarding fortune telling and I quoted him recently bcuz i found them interesting. He said whether it is istikhara recommended in islam or aworawo or the use of Jinn and all sorts of ayewo are fortune telling. He then analysed halal from haram. Ikupakuti was very correct.

That said, those who go against iyepe tite are either deliberately decided to confuse and misguide people or they are ignorant of the subject. Iyepe tite is not haram PROVIDED it is in line with what nabi said in Sahih Muslim. In sahih muslim nabi(SAW) was asked 2 or 3 types of fortune telling including the use of sand (iyepe tite). Answers given by nabi (SAW) for first and second forms indicate they are haram which include using Jinn. But when questioner asked about the use of sand (iyepe tite) his answer was different. So the hadith you are looking for is attached below. Also if you can, watch sheikh Al-Misr brief lecture and Q&A and someone asked him about iyepe tite. He refuted many misconstrued practices condemned by 'puritans'. Please watch if you can. You may watch iyepe tite from 1:15:00



So the expanation for iyepe tite as i knew as a child is not about looking into future or that jinn resides inside the sand and telling you future. It is absolute nonsense. Iyepe tite is old fashioned 'calculator' where they already studied numbers and possible result just like today scientists predict many thing based on calculations. That is all about iyepe tite. Nothing more. The problem is some people go a little further and turned it to something else seeking 'future'. This is what Sheikh Yahya Solati condemns in the video above when he said "ati enito teyepe ati enito lo yewo ina ni sose". But appearance and reality are opposite of each other which means if you see Mr. A drawing something on sand and Mr. B also does the same, this is appearance and it is the same. But reality is Mr. A is into hisab while Mr. B involves with unseen.


So it is irrational for any muslim to quickly condemn a muslim just bcuz you see him drawing on sand. Drawing we are talking about is written in arabic usually not "eji ogbe". They also draw Muhammad and Allah in arabic and then draw name(s) of waliy etc. This is basically tawasul. It has nothing to do with fortune telling. I grew up knowing these things. My sheikh also used tira written by medieval scholars. This tira is equivalent to modern aircraft trackers. I remembered clearly in 1995 when his first son travelled out of the country to Brussels. That time, you know technology was not as it is now and there was no cell phones. So my sheikh and his friend dug out this tira after waiting for days and heard nothing about his whereabout. It was very late night and i was nosy enough to hear their convos. So they were reading this tira and added whatever hisab they found therein. First their result showed his son was in problems but it was not clear. At this point my sheikh was scared and he couldn't even sit down. His friend consoled him and read further. Here comes sad news while reading. The tira says '....bla bla bla bla bla al maut". Of course his name was added with which they arrived at every result. When my sheikh seen the word 'maut' (death), he bursted into tears and gave up. His friend consoled him again that he is not done. They were reading this tira and at the same time had their pen and paper to document and calculate. Mhen, i cried too even though they knew not i was around snitching on them. They finally read everything and properly did the hisab and came to conclusion that there was indeed difficulties but nothing major. Just after they finished and hoped for the best, his son called (landline) that there was no problem except that he was briefly detained bcus of strange object found in his luggage. Strange object immigration officials found was eja kika ati yiyan grin cheesy (baba ijebu thing). They wanted to investigate it. That was all.


So where is fortune telling in this?. Our modern alfas need to be careful of putting on boxing gloves with fellow muslims on subject they do not understand. You can see from the hadith it doesn't haram iyepe tite provided it is in harmony with similar narration above.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 7:47pm On Jul 27, 2019
^^^ empiree
This is deep just like your reply in that other thread. But what is the nature of this calculation ? Is it in anyway related to modern mathematics like geometry, algebra etc or there's particular ancient mathematical calculation been use for such endeavor.

I think one area if research would have been to investigate some earlier prophets that have done similar activities. And to the best of knowledge I haven't come across such discuss. It would be nice knowing how this been used before.

I will download and watch the clip you send.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 8:36pm On Jul 27, 2019
LadunaI:
^^^ empiree
This is deep just like your reply in that other thread. But what is the nature of this calculation ? Is it in anyway related to modern mathematics like geometry, algebra etc or there's particular ancient mathematical calculation been use for such endeavor.

I think one area if research would have been to investigate some earlier prophets that have done similar activities. And to the best of knowledge I haven't come across such discuss. It would be nice knowing how this been used before.

I will download and watch the clip you send.
There are still more knowledgeable Alfas in ilorin and other places(young and old) who sincerely know this. I believe it is more ancient mathematical calculation. Many Alfa don't want to discuss this subject openly anymore due to currently trend. They just preach openly what people want to hear and what is in harmony with their level of understanding.

In order to get clarity I contacted a young Alfa I talked about earlier in this thread regarding iyepe tite and khalwa. After he finished with his explanation I said to him this is what I understood growing up as a child. I asked him why then modern Muslims simply takfir this branch of Islamic knowledge?. He said "Ife Inu coupled with aimokan" is their problem. But sometimes their objection is understandable bcuz of charlatans. So basically, ghulu on both sides are condemned.

Really, modern mathematics are logical deductions from ancient mathematical calculation. So when Nabi Muhammad (saw) said salat of the one who visited soothsayer is suspended for 40days he's referring to the first two.
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:48pm On Jul 28, 2019
Empiree:
There are still more knowledgeable Alfas in ilorin and other places(young and old) who sincerely know this. I believe it is more ancient mathematical calculation. Many Alfa don't want to discuss this subject openly anymore due to currently trend. They just preach openly what people want to hear and what is in harmony with their level of understanding.

In order to get clarity I contacted a young Alfa I talked about earlier in this thread regarding iyepe tite and khalwa. After he finished with his explanation I said to him this is what I understood growing up as a child. I asked him why then modern Muslims simply takfir this branch of Islamic knowledge?. He said "Ife Inu coupled with aimokan" is their problem. But sometimes their objection is understandable bcuz of charlatans. So basically, ghulu on both sides are condemned.

Really, modern mathematics are logical deductions from ancient mathematical calculation. So when Nabi Muhammad (saw) said salat of the one who visited soothsayer is suspended for 40days he's referring to the first two.
@bolded I think that's main issue here. May Allah continue to GUIDE us Amin.

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Re: ...... by Empiree: 3:59am On Jul 29, 2019
LadunaI:

@bolded I think that's main issue here. May Allah continue to GUIDE us Amin.
I am still coming for the second part (khalwa), in Sha Allah.

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Re: ...... by Nobody: 6:29am On Jul 29, 2019
Empiree:
I am still coming for the second part (khalwa), in Sha Allah.

Salam alaykum please I need to ask you a questionn can I send you a mail?
Re: ...... by Alhajiemeritus: 7:02am On Jul 29, 2019
Salam alaykum my brothers and sitsters....
I want to clarify something...
Iyepe tite and IFA(ejiogbe) are the same thing...
They are both based on calculations.....
Which is kind of related to astrology, cos it's also based on alignment of stars...
All these are definitively forbidden in Islam....
Re: ...... by Empiree: 9:34am On Jul 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


Salam alaykum please I need to ask you a questionn can I send you a mail?
walaikum salaam. Sure
Re: ...... by Nobody: 10:59am On Jul 29, 2019
Empiree:
walaikum salaam. Sure

Brother,I have sent a mail to you
Re: ...... by Empiree: 1:34pm On Jul 29, 2019
Mustsucceed:


Brother,I have sent a mail to you
seen and replied
Re: ...... by Empiree: 11:33pm On Aug 01, 2019
Alhajiemeritus:
Salam alaykum my brothers and sitsters....
I want to clarify something...
Iyepe tite and IFA(ejiogbe) are the same thing...
They are both based on calculations.....
Which is kind of related to astrology, cos it's also based on alignment of stars...
All these are definitively forbidden in Islam....
hummm just seeing this. How did you come to this conclusions though and what do you think of the related hadith posted above?.

Ifa(opele), you can see clearly what those alawo say or do. They invoke their deities in the process. However, the reason our ulama in yorubaland keep these types of practices and even other part of the muslim world is bcus they do not want muslim to seek help from non muslims. This is why they accepted daef ahadith as long as they do not implicate shari'a. Unfortunately today, current generation trash out many of these practices and now as you can see, many modern healthcare system and schools are owned by christians. And ultimately weather or sky is controlled by them. See, many of us now sit in front of the TV believing in their forecasts. It is the same future telling. Modern technology is derived from Quran. They are mentioned in the Quran but we don't make use them them.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 6:34am On Aug 02, 2019
Brothers/Sisters should take advantage of the first 10 days of dhul hijjah to do extra dhikr especially after salat fajr

La ilaha ‘illa Allaahu wahdahu la shareeka lahu, lahul mulku wa lahul hamdu wa huwa ala kulli shayin qadeer’

100 times after fajr

100 times after maghrib

100 times after isha

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Re: ...... by Tessyy1701: 9:34am On Aug 02, 2019
Empiree:
Brothers/Sisters should take advantage of the first 10 days of dhul hijjah to do extra dhikr especially after salat fajr

La ilaha ‘illa Allaahu wahdahu la shareeka lahu, lahul mulku wa lahul hamdu wa huwa ala kulli shayin qadeer’

100 times after fajr

100 times after maghrib

100 times after isha

Jazakumullahu Khaeran

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Re: ...... by Empiree: 1:52am On Aug 05, 2019

Re: ...... by Empiree: 3:50am On Aug 05, 2019
LadunaI:

@bolded I think that's main issue here. May Allah continue to GUIDE us Amin.
you need to listen to this interesting piece by Maulana Dr. MUhammad Fazlur Rahman Ansar


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRVjP3U4M9Q

Towards the middle he speaks about islamic sciences and of making "inquiries" (spiritual) he was referring to i believe. It is never forbidden in islam. He said "you might find some of these sciences being labeled blasphemy by religious people of today(muslims) which are in tandem with nabi muhammad(SAW)" I didnt quote him verbatim and i hope i didnt misunderstood him. I am going to listen to this over again.

He said we made everything today haram haram haram which are not and this is changing religion of islam. Subhanallah, at the time he gave this lecture, muslim population was only 700 million in the world. Now look at it today. He said no muslim countries today is actually muslim country. We only call them muslim countries bcus majority are muslims. I am learning here faah. Finally he said, Western world is not the master of sciences. Nabi Muhammad was the master the modern science. Allah akbar. He said it is muslims that restricted everything by making this haram haram and haram is the reason the lack in science and technology. I understood this long ago actually. I estimate this lecture was given in 60s or early 70s bcus he died in 1974 I am sorry i gave much info before you watch it. Go ahead and watch it.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 6:36am On Aug 08, 2019
^^^ empiree
Ok I will try and watch it. Wow is long he died, and he look like contemporary scholar.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 10:23am On Aug 08, 2019
LadunaI:
^^^ empiree
Ok I will try and watch it. Wow is long he died, and he look like contemporary scholar.
He was Sheikh Imran Hossein's teacher and his teacher was Muhammad Abdul Aleem Siddiqi (RA) (April 1892 – August 1954), who was contemporary of George Bernard Shaw

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Re: ...... by Empiree: 7:04pm On Aug 10, 2019
Re: ...... by Empiree: 9:03pm On Aug 14, 2019
Empiree:
I have heard so much differences on this. I believe it is personal thing. If you ask the like of sheik I posted about, he would tell you straight up it is shirk or bidah and Muslims should not pray behind you.

I don't know anything about iyepe or iyanrin tite. I believe it is some sort of scientific analysis. Some brothers likened it to ifa of babalawo and concluded that it is kufr. They consider it fortune telling and back it up with hadith.

Meanwhile most Alfas in nija do this yet they pray salat. Are they kufar because of this? .my answer is no. There might be abuses here and there but that's not the issue. I heard it was first practised in the time is nabi Nuh (as).

There are also Tira written by awon medieval alfas throughout ages where they used numbers to arrive at certain conclusions like taking a trip or want to know status of something. This one was never condemned. So in my view there is no difference unless there're is more to iyepe tite.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 9:07pm On Aug 14, 2019
ikupakuti:
^^^

Sure! All the islamic sciences became bid‘a with the advent of wahabism.

Their argument is that “those who practice it claim the knowledge of gaib“.

If truely thats gaib, then dont they do pregnancy scanning with modern tech/sci ? Dont they do whether forecast ? Dont they do geo-scanning to find petroleum ?

These are part of what God claimed to be gaib Q31;34 Q6:59, that no one knows except him. So, if there interpretation of such vs/gaib is as they put it, then those who practise all of the above are @ par with God in regards to the knowledge of Gaib (may God be exempted from all comparisons)

The reason why olden days people use sand is because paper wasnt invented then, what they have is parchment from animal skin which is very scarce & expensive. If a document is not really important they dont write it down. So, sand is appropiate for writting & erasing @ the same time so they do their calculations on it. It is not as if the sand tells them something about the matter being investigated.

So before the advent of calculator/computers to analyze datas they use sand. The science they use has nothing to do with the sand.

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Re: ...... by Empiree: 1:30am On Aug 15, 2019
He's speaking about iyepe tite

ikupakuti:

Its just a science of probing/investigation/critical analysis. It all boils down to astrology. Where/how/manner of how a certain formula is gotten is what will determine its legality in sharia & not the science itself. When I‘m more chanced, i‘ll elaborate more on how the stars/planets are the cusors of time, which in turn roles out the sequentiality of destiny.
Re: ...... by Empiree: 1:31am On Aug 15, 2019
ikupakuti:


Now you‘re confusing me. I dont think you read my post. Let me re-phrase, whether sand or no sand the criterion of what is good or bad is the sharia. So to answer your Question, there is nothing bad in the science it self. It has many branches, modern alfas now use calculators/pads instead of sand. It is all part of numerology & you know i do that. Like i said earlier the sand is just a writting board & has nothing to do with the science itself. Most of my spiritualist friends use pen/ paper. Sand is oldschool.

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