michaelkaroh:

archangel Michael, Gabriel, the twenty four elders and all the host of Heaven and the church should change their names immediately because they seem to be in the wrong.......He could have used "Jesus' desciple", "Jesus' servant" etc but not "junior"......putting "junior" after the name Jesus means you share common ancestry with someone called Jesus and from the Bible we are told that Jesus is the ONLY begotten son of God. Can you call yourself "God junior"?......you made mention of us being brethren of Jesus. Please where does it say in the scriptures that we are the brethren(brothers) of christ?....if indeed we are the "brothers" of Jesus that means He is not the only begotten son of God, and you know the implications of that right?........No man can take the name of God in vain and be guiltless, no man should personalize the name of God as that would be blasphemy.......
Peace.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.


I repeat, I don't talk anyhow and I don't like arguments.
I'll correct your errors in love, but if you try to argue with me again, I'll ignore you.

I repeat there is nothing with him using that moniker Jesusjnr and it's not blasphemy.

We are sons of God by adoption and are brethren with Jesus Christ.



These are scriptures to confirm that we as Christians are the brethren of Jesus Christ.

2 of them are from Jesus Himself after His resurrection, while the last is from the apostle to the gentiles Paul.



John 20:16-17-( 16- Jesus saith unto her, Mary.She turned herself, and saith unto Him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

 17-  Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to MY BRETHREN, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER and YOUR FATHER; and to my God, and your God.)


Matthew 28: 9-10 ( 9-  And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held Him by the feet, and worshipped Him.

 10- Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell MY BRETHREN that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.)


Hebrews 2: 9-12 ( 9- But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

 10 - For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

 11 - For both He that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them BRETHREN,

 12-  Saying, I will declare thy name unto MY BRETHREN, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee)

michaelkaroh:



"The will of God is to make Christians another VERSION of Jesus"....are you sure of this statement?....The Jesus of the scriptures is a limited edition masterpiece of God in man....only one unit exists therefore any other "version" is a counterfeit and not of God.

"When a woman is married, she takes up her hubby's name"......if Kate marries John, would she be called

God called Abraham His friend, does it mean Abraham ate, drank and laughed with God as friends are wont to do?


Peace.

I repeat and reaffirm all I said, the will of God is to make us a replica(another version) of Christ on earth.

1st John 4:17-18 -(  17- Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: BECAUSE AS HE IS, SO ARE WE IN THIS WORLD,

 18-  There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.)

When a Kate marries John she bears Mrs John and they give birth to John jnr, so there is nothing wrong in that moniker.

Yes, Abraham prepared food for God, and God ate, drank and spoke with Abraham as friends( Read up the entire Genesis 18)

michaelkaroh:

ye are Gods", does it mean we can give life and command leviathan like the most high?,

in the book it says we are joint heirs with christ, does it mean we'd have our own thrones and kingdoms like christ?........
Peace.

Yes, we can give life and command leviathan by the power of the Holy Ghost in us.
When a Christian prays for a barren and she conceives, the Christian has indirectly given life by the power of the Holy Ghost.
When a Christian brings back a dead man to life, he has indirectly given life, by the power of the Holy Ghost in him.

The scriptures say , I give unto power to thread on serpents and ......... all power of the enemy, so we can command leviathan.



We are joint heirs, and in the millennium we shall sit on thrones and reign with Christ.


Rev 5:10- ( And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.)


Rev 20:4  (And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. )


Rev 20:6- (Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.)

Liquidwords:


You are most certainly right. However, how many times do you think jesusjnr has been admonished on this platform? I would say ten times out of modesty.

I believe in my heart he has encountered similar admonishing outside social media. It shows all over him. The content of a man's heart will show itself in his character. And his "teachings" certainly do not agree with the spirit of the gospel. Let's face it, the young man probably doesn't even have a Christian body he fellowships with. Because he perceives himself higher and better at the very least on par with almost any other Christian

Because you know what he is. Did you sit down and admonish TB Joshua twice before you stear clear of him?

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I never knew him, before I came to this forum, so how could I have known all the stuff about him.

I told thesame person who told me to caution him earlier something, which I haven't said here before, but I'll say it now.


I told the person that Jesusjnr was one of the reasons I came to this forum.


The most shocking part of all this is that, even while I was speaking in tongues today, I noticed I was still praying for him, this is to show you that God still loves him.

EnthronedbyGod:



I never knew him, before I came to this forum, so how could I have known all the stuff about him.

I told thesame person who told me to caution him earlier something, which I haven't said here before, but I'll say it now.


I told the person that Jesusjnr was one of the reasons I came to this forum, because God made me realise that He wanted to rescue and restore him, and I tried to do what I was led to do , but I was rejected.


The most shocking part of all this is that, even while I was speaking in tongues today, I noticed I was still praying for him, this is to sho w you that God still wants to rescue him.

Hmmm

OCTAVO:
Jesus jnr is just a moniker.
It doesn't mean anything, neither does it fully reflect anything about the bearer. Let's put sentiment aside.

People don't realise that it's just a moniker.

The problem is that most Christians here, have gotten so angry with most of his posts, that they have subconsciously started hating him.

Their is a thin line between love and hatred.

What everyone ought to do is to pray for the young man and let him be.

Godgatme:
Hello sir....I am not new here and I had to create this new identity to hide myself..

I have silently followed you

Thanks and God bless.

The spirit you saw in form of a woman with an anchor is the marine demon worshipped by buccaneers known as grandpa, and that's why most buccaneers are extremely promiscuous.

They didn't send it, the demon started appearing to you, because you started prayers and wanted to set yourself free.
The battle is strongest when we are close to our victory.


I have told people here countlessly that no cult is good even pirates, that all are thesame but they refuse to agree with me.

Send me a pm, so that we can discuss via email.

God bless

Christians have to be very careful, because it's very easy to go from love to hatred without realising it.

If I ask most of the people condemning him, how many times they've prayed for him with love, I won't be surprised if it might be only 1 or 2 people.

Let's learn how to love people regardless of the stance they take.

However I must insist, that love doesn't necessarily mean friendship or relationship.


Let's end the discussion about that moniker here.

God bless

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I repeat and reaffirm all I said, the will of God is to make us a replica(another version) of Christ on earth.

1st John 4:17-18 -(  17- Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: BECAUSE AS HE IS, SO ARE WE IN THIS WORLD,

 18-  There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.)

When a Kate marries John she bears Mrs John and they give birth to John jnr, so there is nothing wrong in that moniker.

Yes, Abraham ate, drank and laughed with God as normal friends do ( Read up the entire Genesis 18)




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I've never read that God wills to make us replicas of Jesus. What I have read God say is "Ye shall love God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind" and again "you shall love your neighbor as yourself", this I know is the will of God for man.

That chapter of the book of John was talking about perfect love. It is simply admonishing us to have perfect love like the love of God which He showed by laying down His life for us. It does not mean WE ARE like God on the earth. As it says "God is love"...if therefore we say we are of God,then we are to show perfect love on the earth.

Mrs means "married to" so I don't get what you are trying to say. Thank God you said John jrn would be the name of the direct descendant of John thus confirming what I have been saying. Jesus junior would then mean what?

No my friend, Abraham begged God to lodge in his house, he then begged to offer food and water to God and God accepted his request. And then he stood and watched the Lord eat his offering. Please don't misquote scriptures, it a grave offence. Abraham never ate, drank or laughed with God.

I sense this is becoming a supremacy battle so I humbly take a bow. May God enlarge your coast (spirit), and may you be renewed daily for the work of His kingdom.
Peace to you, man of God.

Thanks for your response sir....You are sure very right as to the demon been the Marine spirit whom the buccaneers swore allegiances to...

The grandpa of a thing is just a deceit to veil their demonic god and satanic imitation of God.

And what most of this cultist don't understand is whichever one they claim to belong to is a pyramid in which they are just pawns at the bottom in the satanic games of the few at the top...like in the buccaneer where they have the grandeye, galleon master and the likes at the top of the hierarchy..

My eyes have seen pepper and enough said about this....Those that have ears should hear.!!...Run away from cultism!!.

I will be sending you pm as I really help and direction in this spiritual journey.....I am a bit relieved when I saw you had to battle the satanic rage for years..

No retreat..No surrender by God's grace.

EnthronedbyGod:




The spirit you saw in form of a woman with an anchor is the marine demon worshipped by buccaneers known as grandpa, and that's why most buccaneers are extremely promiscuous.

They didn't send it, the demon started appearing to you, because you started prayers and wanted to set yourself free.
The battle is strongest when we are close to our victory.


I have told people here countlessly that no cult is good even pirates, that all are thesame but they refuse to agree with me.

Send me a pm, so that we can discuss via email.

God bless

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This has nothing to do with supremacy issue, the problem is that you aren't willing to learn.
Abraham prepared food for God as a friend and God ate, that's what the scriptures say.


The scriptures also say Moses and the elders of Israel ate with God.

Exodus 24:.10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his handle: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.


As for the issue of us being like Christ on earth, I won't argue with you on that, because I've noticed you like arguments.

You first said we weren't brethren, I gave you 3 scriptures and you still argued, i can give you 3 scriptures that confirms that it's Gods will to make us like Christ on earth, but the problem is that you love arguments


Ye are gods.

The Bible isn't a story book, it's a spiritual book, which you can't understand without the input of the HOLY Ghost.

Godgatme:
Thanks for your response sir....You are sure very right as to the demon been the Marine spirit whom the buccaneers swore allegiances to...

The grandpa of a thing is just a deceit to veil their demonic god and satanic imitation of God.

And what most of this cultist don't understand is whichever one they claim to belong to is a pyramid in which they are just pawns at the bottom in the satanic games of the few at the top...like in the buccaneer where they have the grandeye, galleon master and the likes at the top of the hierarchy..

My eyes have seen pepper and enough said about this....Those that have ears should hear.!!...Run away from cultism!!.

I will be sending you pm as I really help and direction in this spiritual journey.....I am a bit relieved when I saw you had to battle the satanic rage for years..

No retreat..No surrender by God's grace.

God is with you

EnthronedbyGod:



This has nothing to do with supremacy issue, the problem is that you aren't willing to learn.
Abraham prepared food for God as a friend and God ate, that's what the scriptures say.


The scriptures also say Moses and the elders of Israel ate with God.

Exodus 24:.10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his handle: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.


As for the issue of us being like Christ on earth, I won't argue with you on that, because I've noticed you like arguments.
I'm only making this correction cos of others.

A discourse is not argument.......I'm ready to learn but you are not teaching me....you really cannot convince me that men should take God's name as their's......quoting scriptures without understanding the application of said scriptures in life and in "arguments" is not acceptable. You can only correct what is wrong and I stand on the ever correct word of God.

We are not brethren with God(Jesus). Jesus spoke both as God and as man, eg when he was tempted by satan......He said "ye shall worship the Lord your God only", does it mean He is not God?......even though the children of Mary were called His brethren, did that mean they were his brothers(beggotten of the same father)?....This brethren ish will only make sense when you strip Jesus of His divinity as you have been doing. Acknowledge Him as God and try that brethren line if it'd fit.

Christian doctrines such as the Trinity, or the unique deity of Jesus Christ — are cults in a theological sense. Thus, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and Christian Scientists qualify as cultists.

@enthronedbyGod, I greatly appreciate your understanding of Christian love and attitude to others. I think our Pastors need to do more in teaching about Christian love.
@enthronedbyGod, your experience and the knowledge God has given you about the darkworld and demons are to priceless for you to keep to your self. I appreciate you for bringing them to this forum. Many of us have been enlightened. Pls don't stop yet. Make a book on the secrets of the occult and witchcraft and demon presence in our lives and entertainment. Many more people will be liberated and protected from entering the traps. You may also make documentary/video of it to help people who are not naturally good readers. Knowledge liberates the world. We need not be 'ignorant of the wiles of the devil's. May God uphold you and help you to fulfil your divine mandate.

EnthronedbyGod:




People don't realise that it's just a moniker.

The problem is that most Christians here, have gotten so angry with most of his posts, that they have subconsciously started hating him.

Their is a thin line between love and hatred.

What everyone ought to do is to pray for the young man and let him be.

Yes sir, people against his moniker are only allowing personal sentiment to becloud their view. I unfollowed this thread yesterday because it's no longer serving its purpose, but I have to respond to this comment.
I've seen L u c i f e r moniker on this same nairaland, would they have him bear a satanic moniker like that or Jesus jnr? Common!

OCTAVO:

Yes sir, people against his moniker are only allowing personal sentiment to becloud their view. I unfollowed this thread yesterday because it's no longer serving its purpose, but I have to respond to this comment.
I've seen L u c i f e r moniker on this same nairaland, would they have him bear a satanic moniker like that or Jesus jnr? Common!

Don't unfollow, for you can be a blessing to me or someone else on this thread.

I'm very sorry @Jesusjnr, if I offended you with any of my comments concerning you.

My purpose wasn't to place myself above you at all, for whatever we have today is strictly by God's grace.

I strongly believe you're of God regardless of what anyone thinks. I don't follow people's opinions, i follow the Spirit's leading.

We are all meant to pray for each other and admonish one another, you prayed for me seriously while I was writing this thread and I thought it necessary to do same for you.

I'm so sad that you left this thread and I pray you come back.


I understand what you're going through, cos I've been rejected and still being rejected on daily basis. Sometimes God takes us through strange paths as Christians to prune us and bring out the best in us.

Sometimes God allows us to make mistakes in order to allow us realise that we can do nothing without him.


My statement concerning the Pharisees leaving Jesus with shame has nothing to do with you.

I can remember when I wanted to leave nairaland, you and bodydialect were the ones that encouraged me to continue.

I only said some of the things I said to make people realise that God still loves you regardless of their opinion.

Yes, I don't like some of your posts, but I love you as a person and I pray you come back.

All things work together for good to them that love God.

I love you unreservedly and I'm very sorry if I offended you in anyway.

It's so unfortunate that we as Christians are so full of strife and contention , instead of showing love and edifying one another we try to become vainglorious.


The Bible says what have you that you didn't receive and if you received it why glorying as if you didn't receive it.

I'm not better than anyone, wherever I am today and whatever I know today is solely by God's grace. For no man takes this calling unto himself, except he that is called as Aaron was.

Whatever I revealed here doesn't make me better than anyone, it's just favour and grace from God.

Webster's definition of the word God and god

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit :

Infinite Mind2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship

3 : A PERSON or thing OF SUPREME VALUE AND CHARACTER

4: a powerful ruler

EnthronedbyGod:
Webster's definition of the word God and god

1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit :

Infinite Mind2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship

3 : A PERSON or thing OF SUPREME VALUE AND CHARACTER

4: a powerful ruler

Will continue this in another thread so that I don't divert this

Godgatme:
Thanks for your response sir....You are sure very right as to the demon been the Marine spirit whom the buccaneers swore allegiances to...

The grandpa of a thing is just a deceit to veil their demonic god and satanic imitation of God.

And what most of this cultist don't understand is whichever one they claim to belong to is a pyramid in which they are just pawns at the bottom in the satanic games of the few at the top...like in the buccaneer where they have the grandeye, galleon master and the likes at the top of the hierarchy..

My eyes have seen pepper and enough said about this....Those that have ears should hear.!!...Run away from cultism!!.

I will be sending you pm as I really help and direction in this spiritual journey.....I am a bit relieved when I saw you had to battle the satanic rage for years..

No retreat..No surrender by God's grace.

You're perfectly right , the name grandpa is a pseudo name, used to deceive the gullible, just like korofo, odin and the rest are pseudo names also

I understand what you're going through, I'm yet to hear from you though.

Though I wouldn't mind you sharing a little of your experience here, so that I and others can learn, but don't be graphic

God bless

butterfly777:
@enthronedbyGod, I greatly appreciate your understanding of Christian love and attitude to others. I think our Pastors need to do more in teaching about Christian love.
@enthronedbyGod, your experience and the knowledge God has given you about the darkworld and demons are to priceless for you to keep to your self. I appreciate you for bringing them to this forum. Many of us have been enlightened. Pls don't stop yet. Make a book on the secrets of the occult and witchcraft and demon presence in our lives and entertainment. Many more people will be liberated and protected from entering the traps. You may also make documentary/video of it to help people who are not naturally good readers. Knowledge liberates the world. We need not be 'ignorant of the wiles of the devil's. May God uphold you and help you to fulfil your divine mandate.

Amen.
If God leads me to do that I'll.
Moreover if you have genuine questions, you can ask so that I and any other person who has Knowledge of such can answer.
Thanks for your prayers.

I'll like to share a personal revelation about Christians being kings and reigning with Christ.


In 2007, I had a dream, in that dream there was a throne and angels and crowds gathered to watch a coronation.

They were singing a popular hymn. Once in royal David's city, glory to the new born king.

I didn't know I was the one they wanted to crown.
I decided to hide myself, and I successfully hid myself beside someone.

They searched everywhere for me but couldn't find me.

I woke up from the dream and suddenly realised I was the one they wanted to crown.

I became confused and didn't understand why they will be singing a hymn that was meant for Jesus alone and looking for me to be crowned king.

It took a lot of interpretation from the Holy Spirit to make me understand the meaning of that revelation.

In 2017 , precisely December, thesame dream was repeated.

This time around the Lord Jesus was present.

I looked up and saw the crowd and the Holy Spirit told me these are my( EnthronedbyGod) brethren and Christ's brethren whom He redeemed with His precious blood and He has made them kings to reign with Him.

They also sat on thrones, I was meant to understand they were the cloud of witnesses the Apostle Paul spoke about in Hebrew 12 and that they were observing all we were doing on earth.

I shed some light on this in my thread about my visions of heaven and heavenly beings but intentionally left out the personal ones.

I didn't want people to misunderstand me by thinking i was trying to glorify myself.


I have decided to talk about this, so that people who are Willing to learn will understand the mystery which had been hid from ages, but is now made manifest by God's servants.


It's by God's grace, I'm not better than anyone, it's important i make this clear, cos I've been accused of supremacy

The angels repeated thesame hymn that was sung in 2007 when I had the first revelation.

Once in royal David's city, glory to the new born king......
God and sinners reconcile......
..... Christ is born in Bethlehem.
Hark the herald angels sing, glory to the new born king.

I was stunned with what I was seeing.

It was a beautiful sight to behold.

Instantly I saw myself going towards the throne that was empty to sit on it.


As I sat on the throne, the Lord Jesus stood at my back with a shining gold crown with many stars and placed it on my head.

As He placed it on my head, He spoke and said a King is born this day.


He removed the signet in His finger and placed it in my finger and said, I send you this day in my name.

Some other things happened which I wouldn't say here so that people don't misunderstand my intentions.

When the revelation cleared, I started thinking about what I saw and that's when the Holy Spirit began to show and interpret scriptures I had neglected so many times.

Christ is the only begotten son of God and one with God and the Holy Ghost, because He wasn't created.


We Christians are indeed His brethren and have divine abilities in us, which most might never be able to use because lack of comprehension, understanding and maturity.