i don't undstnd when pple say that yoruba won the war against biafra, how exactly? the only tribe that lost their territory without a single gun shot? history have it that,obasanjo and his brother black scoppion never combated the brave biafran sodiers then,they only go about attacking innocent civilans mostly women and children,do we classify that as bravery also??asaba massacre is a good example of what i am saying..

Cadec007:
OK LET'S PLAY SMALL (DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL)

Should a West vs North war begin (lets agree other regions remain neutral)

Swiftness would be a huge factor, any region that has stealth and speed is winning...

An air fight is very likely given the 'easy' terrain in the west...

There is far more military aircraft and planes in Zaria, Kaduna and Jos than in Ibadan and Abeokuta(in fact i don't think there is any) ...

The closeness of big cities to the border (between the two regions)is a disadvantage to the west
The West has far more infrastructure than the north and has a damn lot to lose

..... Ilorin is the only important city close to the Western border(osun and oyo).... Because the North are the invaders, they would sweep through the whole of osun and Ekiti.... with little resistance..

Now facing Oyo, this is where the airforce would come to play, aerial bombardment of ogbomosho, ibadan etc would lead to the taking of that state in less than 2 weeks....the north shall lose planes of course but remember i stated speed and stealth as a factor in this war...so The ability for the western army to place AA guns and STA missiles in strategic locations would be hugely compromised....

Thus leaving the north directly against, ogun and ondo.... Akure and the northern part of ondo would fall in hours... The northwest part of ogun would fall thus leaving an almost straight front....

Ogun would put up strong resistance but let me tell you how Ogun would fall....... Ogun would fall by Ilorin repeating itself.... If you still don't understand, it means, it would be eaten from inside..... All of Ondo would fall eventually, leaving Lagos facing attack from all sides except the west and the south...

The North would issue a threat of Aerial bombardment and a simultaneous land attack.... With a whole lot of infrastructure to lose, Lagos would adhere and surrender unconditionally.... Thus bringing the end of the war in less than six months.....

PS: as long as other regions remain neutral, forget any hope of outside help.... But if you must insist there would be...... The North has the whole of Northern Africa and Arab nations behind it... (religiously/militarily) which would trouble the Yoruba Muslims (here comes my "eaten from inside point)......... Name any outside help apart from the US... Don't even mention Russia (they would just tear your letter and kill your emissary. .. Lol), China? The East and South have more relations with them..... The US would not even spend much on your case, so you you shouldn't count on that.......

So PRAY THERE IS NO NORTHERN ANNEXATION/INVASION on the WEST, the west would lose....

Firstly, war is not just about speed, it require tactics. It’s absurd to say the military with the swiftest response always win the war, it has to deal with tactics, ability to read situations and a lot of other factors, so I beg to disagree with your first point.

This will be the most ridiculous statement I’ve ever heard, you speak like if the Yorubas will sleep when the northerners are advancing and you spoke like the Yorubas are dummies that will just fold their arms while the northern troops advance.

You spoke about the north running over Osun state in few hours, that’s ridiculous coz if a war eventually break out who do you think the Kwara people will lean towards to?? The west of course. Kwara will be the outpost and that will serve as the border where reinforcement will be concentrated to.

Of course, Lagos has more infrastructure than the north and there will be lot of economic loss on the part of the SW if that happens. It’s also absurd trying to isolate other region or world allies in war coz war is not fought on papers and it’s a serious business (Even America don’t joke with allies when in war situation)

The military installment may be concentrated more in the north but it’s easy to get mercenaries with money and get allies with propaganda. Who the hell is the Northern Africa mercenaries, so you know most of the supplies are from the western world like Russia and the rest.

You also spoke about Yorubas sabotaging eachother in Ogun which to me rubbishes your claim coz war dosen’t isolate people and soldiers don’t discrimate when bomb drop in a city, meaning the Yorubas will fight and die together.

Money is a major factor in war, and when you can purchase military jets with money and build alliance, it will be more easier to face the situation and you should know the Yorubas around established places can pull lot of stunt to gather both alliance and money for arm.

War is about tactics, the Yorubas won’t invade into the north to take over Kano Caz that’s not the ideology behind the war, you will need to play defense for the first six month of the war and destroy any northern advancement at the outpost in Kwara state. Then wait for supplies and advance bit by bit when the northerners are weak in arms.

If war is that easy like you say, why does it take the federal troops to defeat the Biafrans 3 years? You’re ignorant and people keep adducing too much power to the northerners whereas it’s all myth and the Fulanis are not indispensable.

Remember the North is NE, NW, the Middle belt got some Yoruba speaking state (Kogi, Kwara) whose allegiance will be to the western side.

Also in real life situation, the remaining Southerners will pick sides coz war affects everybody together, they either support the north or the western Nigeria.

War is not that easy, that is why the USA with all their might are reluctant to invade North Korea, Caz America will lose a lot fighting NK but eventually win the war tho.

Guestlander:


Victor Banjo nko? You think armies have field commanders for fun? No wonder Biafra lost miserably.

At least we bravely fought the entire Nigerian soldiers, from North middle belt, yoruba's, with foreign support,

One little tribe, you all should be ashamed, it's like 200 people, fighting 5 men

Icon79:
No Army Can Stop Yorubas When They Are Ready To Fight - Yinka Odumakin

But the million dollar question is: when would the Yorubas ever be ready to fight

Answer: Never!

Case closed.



O pari

On what basis are the Yorubas going to fight? Is Yoruba a country with a standing army?So tell me the individuals who are going to do the battle .I am not ruling out some idiots who are going to kill each other on the basis of tribe, but that a tribe will declare a war on another tribe in a large scale manner is impossible unless there is a fracture in the Nigerian army with the soldiers fighting for their respective ethnicity. This was what happened in the last civil war. The disunity within the Nigerian army led Ojukwu to mobilize his kinsmen to declare biafra republic. He was able to raise a rebel group with the remnants of Nigerian soldiers in the east to fight the federal government. Without the above mentioned conditions availing themselves, no any region is going to declare a war on another region. Odumakin was just being childish. I don't think the man has intelligence because he talks very much like a 5 years old boy .

[quote author=Rotimi47 post=80810478]Lie from the pit of hell!

Yoruba that their father usman dan fodio can't defeat?

The Yorubas that fought you during the Nigerian civil war and whom offiong was forced to surrender to after Ojukwu fled to ivory coast?

Who lead your troops to capture territories from your biafra to Ore before your troops were pushed back? A Yoruba ( Banjo by Name)

Who gave you a sounding defeat in Ore? Yoruba troops.

Which commander dealt with your troops in such a way that they panic when his name is mentioned during the Civil war? Adekunle a Yoruba Soldier.

Which tribe have ever convincingly defeated the fulanis in war? Yoruba

You people just like spewing trash all over the place because you are pained.

Which tribe have ever asked the fulanis to leave and they felt threatened to a point that Miyetti Allah ask te Nigerian Police to protect the fulani herds men who alredy have Ak47s? Yoruba

Long story and chest beating is what you, the yorubas are known for

War is not tea party. If Buhari and the north decides to fight then that will be the end for them as they cannot muster the needed coalition nationally and internationally.
The north deceived the entire country against the Igbo's during the war and grabbed power for so long and repressed other tribes when they got to power. But now the people are wiser.
Yoruba's and Igbo's may not see eye to eye but their differences is not unto death unfortunately the same cannot be said about Hausa/Fulani's who have shed so much blood since after the war till date.
The middle belt are being rewarded for the support they gave the north with killings and they are learning a bitter lesson for their fatal error and would never support the core north again.
What am I saying? The north knows that any war that might be fought today will prove fatal to them so they must thread softly as this is not 1967.

aolawale025:
Yoruba will fight when pushed to the wall

And it's only women that will fight when pushed to the wall.

MrHeff:
virogyra soup drinker was responsible for decimating your fathers. Just one oil soup licker changed the currency and finished 3 million of your people with starvation. You should be ashamed that your so called bravery was ridiculed by the cowardly yoruba

Which yoruba are you talking about? as if they faught the war alone, with all the heavy fire arms and support from world powers unlike the biafrans who faught with locally made arms with no support, despite all that, it still took you guys 3years.... and even the war was declared "NO LOSE, NO VICTORY"

y3mi:
Yoruba-hating scoundrels just infested this thread like flies gets drawn to the stink of bullshits. It shows many of you lots don't even know history much less of understanding who Yorubas are truly are. If you all want war, provoke your ethnicity or tribe to go start it na...and leave the Yorubas to be the coward people it pleases you to believe they are.

in other words,you have accepted that yorubas are cowards?? huhh?

MetaPhysical:
The wars Yoruba fought, if it was Igbo there will not be a single Igbo left alive....you will all h as ve perished, totally annihilated.

Look at 1967 civil war for example....in just 3yrs alone you lost over 3million people.

How many would you loose in 6yrs...in 10yrs...

Yoruba fought a war that lasted a decade....not to mention the theaters were on different fronts and we did not loose even half a million.

Can Igbo beat that? Tell us how.

please, shed more light on the war which lasted a decade that the yorubas faught and for all i know, you were not born during the biafran war but all of you are quoting figures as if you were there to do the counting.

No one dear rival the man With a red cap.. So brave that he fought a whole country ,nearly they could have Won before the westerner now came and support the other . And cut the supply of food to the south east. When We reach ore, Yoruba where already jittery.We created bombs, guns with nothing that's bravery and you dear not dear .When we protest the world quakes that's why they are afraid of us. But two wrongs can't make a right.

stefanbanach:
vanquish who? Your reasoning has been clogged by that virogyra soup your people normally prepare with broom used in sweeping the gutter.

Yet your commander-in-chief flee like a dog with his tails between his legs diguised like a sussy ? Ain't you got no shame ?

stefanbanach:
You know nothing man. The caliphate have warned to herdsmen to stand down because the yorubas are pushing for Southern unity.

If the southeast and south-south publicly denounce any future alliance with the yorubas, the Fulanis will finish the yoruba nation the next day.

What an empty talk. Why must you send away your thinking cap before writing ? I thought you could do better. I was wrong.

Deepfeel:

You are not ashamed we igbo's took the fight to the entire Nigeria full of northern soldiers middle belt soldiers Yoruba soldiers, do you think yoruba's alone can fight igbo's, yoruba's are known for verbal confrontation that we know

With your runaway "commander-in-chief" ?

pinkPUSSY:


Yoruba will never ever declare war no matter the level of provocation.. Quote me anywhere . Fight who?.. Fulanis ?

With who ?


Its unfortunate that there is absolutely nothing they can do, just press statement. Hiding under sophistication and calculative to exhibit cowardice.


Apart from nairaland news, the killings that are going on in that region is terrible.. The media is media is only reporting few.

IBB will smile if he sees this thread

Go and study your History.

luluman:
All we know is we'll not join you to start up war.

Whoever is expecting a Yoruba man to join others and start a war these days is hallucinating.

So shut the fvck up

BlakKluKluxKlan:



With your runaway "commander-in-chief" ?

Yes, you should be more afraid, cause if we can stand and fight hundreds of thousands of Nigerian soldiers backed by foreigners without a commander- in chief as you call it, we will definitely do more harm with a commander

This one weak me.

Big nyash women....yes
Good Fuji music...yes
Peppery food...yes
Healthy verbal sparring....yes
Randy old men....yes

Fighting....NO

Daviddson:
I think the only sets of people who the Hausa and Fulani oligarchy are afraid of in Nigeria are the Yoruba people and the Niger Delta. As for me, they're the ones who can boldly start a war before other southern tribes may gather liver to join.

the last war that broke out where were these people you are calling?

YorubaHero12:

Lol ask your grandfathers the input of Yorubas during the civil war and they will tell you the Yorubas are the bulk of the strategists and gallant officers that won the civil war for the federal side.

History has shown that the Yorubas are the tribe that actually fight for a cause and achieve them most times. Infact it is the Yorubas that has shown the highest form of bravery and we don’t run away from fight like your Ojukwu of unblessed memory.

If a war breakout in Nigeria and the Yorubas are on the other side fighting the north, then the north is in soup.

We have the sea to bring in ammunitions, we have the expertise to deploy strategies and tactics to treat the northerner fuckup. We are situated at the border linking the Atlantic so it will be hard for the north to conquer us Caz it’ll be hard to reach lagos which will be the weapon facility. We can solicit for allies and use our link on the world stage to get other superpowers to our side.

If the north make a mistake of going to the war with the Yorubas involved, then the stupid myth that the Fulani is indispensable and brave will be debunked and they will be massacred with air raids.

The northerners are only dominating Nigeria political space with their population just because of the rubbish democracy we are practicing. They have no expertise, tactics, coz war is not about foot soldiers alone it is more than that.

You are intelligent

7lives:
Yorubas fought a hundred years of civil wars after the collapse of the Oyo empire.
They went as far as using guns, that is my the last war was named after the sound of gun, KIRIJI WAR.
My mother's great grandfather Balogun Agoro Iposun, was the one who stopped the Mahins and the Ijaws from seizing Epe, the spot were he and his army DROWNED the ijaw and the Mahin army, is called eyin osa, at Ibeju Lekki area of Lagos.
The reason why people come online to say nonsense is the absence of history in our schools.
Thank God history is back in our schools.

It would be great, if a TV documentary could be done about this great piece of history..... for posterity .

Daviddson:
I think the only sets of people who the Hausa and Fulani oligarchy are afraid of in Nigeria are the Yoruba people and the Niger Delta. As for me, they're the ones who can boldly start a war before other southern tribes may gather liver to join.

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Fear ko Fear ni. You are the least feared by them based solely on their actions. Whenever you speak of division, they pay absolutely no mind to una. They literally taking over your lands and currently one is in their possession. Heck, the Fulanis have been begging SS and SE to allow Fulani vilgilante groups in the respectful regions. Una on the other hand, they went and created one in your region without acknowledgement of you people or your leaders. That alone speaks highly on the level of " fear" they have for una. Shut up!!! Even cats are more feared than Afonja.

Bunch of ill livered cowards. Everybody already knows how una do. You'll beat una chest, make noise everywhere, create some delusion that people fear your loud mouthing, decieve yourselves that you won biafra war, among other delusions y'all schizophrenic things are good at then head back to your homes as the tragedy that got una loud mouthing continues. Everybody already know the Afonjas game plan. In the words of IBB, make we dey sleep jor.

splendour7:
i don't undstnd when pple say that yoruba won the war against biafra, how exactly? the only tribe that lost their territory without a single gun shot? history have it that,obasanjo and his brother black scoppion never combated the brave biafran sodiers then,they only go about attacking innocent civilans mostly women and children,do we classify that as bravery also??asaba massacre is a good example of what i am saying..

Only Afonja says that. Nobody else says that except them. I actually had one even argue with how that behavior, known as Cowardly in every sense, is "tactics" Is it today you learned Afonja are ethnics of schizophrenic. Abeg, let mentally deranged niggas enjoy their delusions.

nairavsdollars:
Temidayo Akinsuyi, Lagos



https://www.independent.ng/no-army-can-stop-yorubas-when-they-are-ready-to-fight-odumakin/

Sharap jare... nations that are more learned than u guys 10 times go to war when it is necessary, not as a last resort..

I have been hearing this talk since I was born - Yoruba don't fight, that if they fight a lot will happen, they will be quoting one ancestor we don't know -

Nobody should ban me again o, all am saying is that "Afonjas must go to war" and stop citing one ancestor we don't know!

kettykin:


Adekunle did not murder my fathers , as a matter of fact 3rd Marine commando lost 99.14 % of hismen in the Operation O.A.U which was what forced Gowon to recall , Adekunle is the Only Officer of Nigerian Military that had to be recalled and replaced by the military high command due to high casaulties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_OAU

The funny thing about Afonjas is their incompetence. The few victory accredited to Adekunle was lead by Alabi-isama. Adekunle was predominately in Lagos throughout the war as reported by Alabi-isama himself. The first fight Adekunle lead, they lost terribly hence he was demoted. I always laugh when Afonjas chest beat using their own lies/delusions.

What is even killing me right now in laughter is the inclusion of Alabi-isama as Afonja by Yinka's announcement. When did Alabi-isama, an Anioma, become an Afonja? . PATHETIC!!

GlorifiedTunde:


Tell them!

Many regard this as an art of cowardice!

It is always said that before you start a war, count the costs!

Reminds me of Sagamu 1999!

Yes, i remember i was working with governor segun osoba but cant recollect the cause. It was a bloody battle.

Daviddson:
I think the only sets of people who the Hausa and Fulani oligarchy are afraid of in Nigeria are the Yoruba people and the Niger Delta. As for me, they're the ones who can boldly start a war before other southern tribes may gather liver to join. I'm not even hoping for a war, though I want Nigeria to divide. In several of the instances you mentioned, there were no tribal undertones. When Awolowo and Obasanjo were arrested, were there no Hausa, Igbos and Niger Deltan heavyweight politicians also
arrested? When Obasanjo arrested al Mustapha, did the north start a war?

Mumu talk born out of stupid assumption. Practically we know whom exactly they fear. Politically they can use and dump Yoruba but when it comes to war, Yoruba isn't any bodies problem. The Fulani's know that better.

nototribalist:
Oduamakin don dey lose guard sha

ask the same IBB wat Yoruba led NADECO did to him

MetaPhysical:
The wars Yoruba fought, if it was Ibo there will not be a single Ibo left alive....you will all h as ve perished, totally annihilated.

Look at 1967 civil war for example....in just 3yrs alone you lost over 3million people.

How many would you loose in 6yrs...in 10yrs...

Yoruba fought a war that lasted a decade....not to mention the theaters were on different fronts and we did not loose even half a million.

Can Ibo beat that? Tell us how.

Stop deceiving yourself. Verbal confrontation by neighbouring villages is not war.

The igbos resisted the British with their sophisticated gunpowder for 30 years. The same British you begged to come and rule you because of fear of fulani.