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OkCornel:
Educate yourself. I'm just loving this


So if Enoch did not have a book and his words were not documented, how did Jude eventually know Enoch said those things he wrote in his Epistle?

Abi Jude just made up those words and attributed them to Enoch abi?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-canonical_books_referenced_in_the_Bible

Blind bat, did you read the my post at? Didn't you see how I explained that Jude got the revelation from the Holy Spirit just as Paul got an unrecorded word of Jesus from the Holy Spirit? Stop playing the ostrich and read the post again below.


Jude didn't quote from the Book of Enoch. He simply quoted Enoch. Look at the verse again, where does it say he quoted a book? NOWHERE. He only quoted Enoch directly. How did he do that? Let's see:

Enoch’s original message was from God. It is entirely possible that the prophet Enoch may have been quoted directly by Jude, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit—since the prophecy is not contained in the Old Testament. The same Holy Spirit that gave Enoch that message told Jude what he gave Enoch. Jude didn't look into any book to know it.

This is not something that has never been done in the Bible. Apostle Paul once quoted the Lord Jesus, though the quotation he employed is nowhere recorded in the Gospel narratives

Acts 20:35 (KJV)
I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

The bold cannot be found anywhere else in the Bible showing Jesus saying such. This means Paul quoted Jesus directly as the message came from him. The Holy Spirit revealed to Paul one of those words said by Jesus which was not recorded (ecall that not everything done by Jesus was recorded). That's the same thing Jude did; he quoted the message God passed down to Enoch. Clearly, Enoch's message came from God, Jude got the exact quote from God who gave it to Enoch. Nowhere is it written that Jude quoted a so-called book of Enoch. Rather, Jude simply stated what the Holy Spirit gave to him which was exactly what Enoch said.

Oya recycle again and act like you didn't see the explanation.

OkCornel:
Please bring details of who won in the votes and who lost in the votes. I would like to know more about when this voting held, and where Athanasius an early church father amongst other losers were included.

Go read up about the council of Nicea and how the 66 books came about. Go do your homework

OkCornel:
God put his word in only 66 books Yeah right, the Ethiopian Orthodox church, Orthodox Church in America and Catholic church among other churches laugh at your ignorance... They must be hell bound churches since they believe in more than 66 books as the word of God.

And the many other books the Bible copied from and made references to are merely fairy tales and imaginations of men

They are only laughing at their own foolishness for depending on books with falsehood and errors which o just exposed, which you also couldn't counter. Shame on you both.

Mind you, those churches aren't Christian. But that's a talk for another day.

OkCornel:
And the tithe seeking, 66 books believing pentecostal churches with various conflicting doctrines are the "heavenly churches" leading people to Christ

The Church as a whole does not even have an agreed number books to call the Bible;

Orthodox Church in America - 80 books
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church - 81 books
Catholic Bible - over 70 books


According to you, these churches must have their believers hell bound since it's not 66 books they regard as God's word abi?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible

Sorry to bust your bubble. Pentecostal Churches aren't Christian also, neither do I belong with them. A Satanist knows who the true Christians are, so I don't need to educate you on that.

jcross19:
are you sure? then we are doom! King James was a masonry who helped translated bible from Latin to English what do you think having a masonry translating bible for us? now Catholic you called satanic they were the one that compiled all the scriptures to be in one piece as bible now look how satanist have compiled our bible today , what damage do you think they would have done to it? Catholic spread gospel round the world.

Will just keep shut?

Who told you King James translated the KJV? Because he had his name on it? Ho and read about all the scholars from far and wide who came together to translate the KJV. The King called James only put his seal of approval on it after preventing the Catholic Church mercenaries from smuggling the apocryphal books into it.

Go and study

LifestyleTonite:
Keep quiet. You have been busted. It is flooded all over Google that the meaning of that passage is that Jesus was fathered by Pantera. Other books of the Talmud say the same thing.

http://www.talmudunmasked.com/chapter5.htm

Google for "jesus was fathered by pantera"

Next time, be sure it's the same Jesus we are talking about. Jesus was a common name in Israel. Jesus aka Yeshua, Joshua, Yeshu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud
JESUS IN THE TALMUD;
The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is
problematic. For example, the Talmud
mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada 's
stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with
Rabbi Akiva, [3] who was executed at the
culmination of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135
CE. [4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee
student is described as being a student of the
second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben
Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled
Pharisees returning to Israel following their
persecution [6][7] by John Hyrcanus, [8] an
event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally,
Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal
government which lost legal authority in 63
BC. These events would place the lifetime of
either Yeshu decades before or after the birth
and death of Jesus. [9][10] Still, there are
numerous other passages pertaining to an
individual named "Yeshu" that either don't
provide a specific time period or else specify a
time where it is reasonable to assume
mentioning of Jesus would even be possible
(take for example a notable passage, Gittin
57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos
conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" –
Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus,
thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned
could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of
this is still questionable) still opening the
possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned
might be Jesus.
The first Christian censorship of the Talmud
happened in the year 521. [11] However, far
better documented censorship began during
the disputations of the Middle Ages. Catholic
authorities [ who? ] accused the Talmud of
containing blasphemous references to Jesus
and his mother, Mary . Jewish apologists
during the disputations said there were no
references to Jesus in the Talmud. They
asserted that Joshua was a common Jewish
name, along with its derivations, and that the
citations referred to individuals other than
Jesus. The disputations led to many of the
references being removed (censored) from
subsequent editions of the Talmud.

LifestyleTonite:
Sorry to bust your bubble. Pentecostal Churches aren't Christian also, neither do I belong with them. A Satanist knows who the true Christians are, so I don't need to educate you on that.

Nice, so tell us which of the churches you worship in. The one you founded?

OkCornel:
Next time, be sure it's the same Jesus we are talking about. Jesus was a common name in Israel. Jesus aka Yeshua, Joshua, Yeshu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud
JESUS IN THE TALMUD;
The identification of Yeshu as Jesus is
problematic. For example, the Talmud
mentions Yeshu ben Pandera/ben Stada 's
stepfather, Pappos ben Yehuda, speaking with
Rabbi Akiva, [3] who was executed at the
culmination of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135
CE. [4][5] Furthermore, Yeshu the Pharisee
student is described as being a student of the
second-century BCE nasi Joshua ben
Perachiah, as well as being among the exiled
Pharisees returning to Israel following their
persecution [6][7] by John Hyrcanus, [8] an
event which occurred in 74 BC. Additionally,
Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal
government which lost legal authority in 63
BC. These events would place the lifetime of
either Yeshu decades before or after the birth
and death of Jesus. [9][10] Still, there are
numerous other passages pertaining to an
individual named "Yeshu" that either don't
provide a specific time period or else specify a
time where it is reasonable to assume
mentioning of Jesus would even be possible
(take for example a notable passage, Gittin
57a mentioning the nobleman Onkelos
conjuring the tormented spirit of "Yeshu" –
Onkelos lived more than a century after Jesus,
thus making it possible the Yeshu mentioned
could indeed be Jesus, though the likelihood of
this is still questionable) still opening the
possibility that whichever Yeshu mentioned
might be Jesus.
The first Christian censorship of the Talmud
happened in the year 521. [11] However, far
better documented censorship began during
the disputations of the Middle Ages. Catholic
authorities [ who? ] accused the Talmud of
containing blasphemous references to Jesus
and his mother, Mary . Jewish apologists
during the disputations said there were no
references to Jesus in the Talmud. They
asserted that Joshua was a common Jewish
name, along with its derivations, and that the
citations referred to individuals other than
Jesus. The disputations led to many of the
references being removed (censored) from
subsequent editions of the Talmud.

This is what happens when you click to Jewish fables. They are never stable. While they are designed to decieve gullible people into believing Jesus had an earthly father, they are also quick to deny it's the same Jesus Christ we know.

The Talmud speaks of Jesus being a sorcerer (had supernatural powers). He was killed by government authorities. His mother also happens to be named Mary. The joke is on you for believing it is. ot a direct attack on Jesus.

Ask yourself: Do you believe in Jesus? Do you believe he will inspired a book which cunningly lay false claims about himself?

LifestyleTonite:
They are only laughing at their own foolishness for depending on books with falsehood and errors which o just exposed, which you also couldn't counter. Shame on you both.

Mind you, those churches aren't Christian. But that's a talk for another day.

Wow, LifestyleTonite has the supreme authority to tell us Pentecostal, Catholic, and Orthodox churches are not Christian churches...

So what are they? Satanic churches?

OkCornel:
Nice, so tell us which of the churches you worship in. The one you founded?

Go and ask Satan tonight.

LifestyleTonite:
This is what happens when you click to Jewish fables. They are never stable. While they are designed to decieve gullible people into believing Jesus had an earthly father, they are also quick to deny it's the same Jesus Christ we know.

The Talmud speaks of Jesus being a sorcerer (had supernatural powers). He was killed by government authorities. His mother also happens to be named Mary. The joke is on you for believing it is. ot a direct attack on Jesus.

Ask yourself: Do you believe in Jesus? Do you believe he will inspired a book which cunningly lay false claims about himself?

Which Jesus na? Jesus aka Joshua, Yeshua and Yeshu is a common Hebrew name back then. So which Jesus na?


Research, na lie...

OkCornel:
Wow, LifestyleTonite has the supreme authority to tell us Pentecostal, Catholic, and Orthodox churches are not Christian churches...

So what are they? Satanic churches?

Yes, planted by Satan. They are the wheat among the tares which Jesus spoke of.

Even their display gives them off. But one doctrine exposes them for who they are. You know it, so no need for me to tell you.

LifestyleTonite:
Go and ask Satan tonight.

You are just exposing yourself. Pentecostal, Catholic and Orthodox churches are not Christian churches abi?


Okay, so what are they na .

LifestyleTonite:
Yes, planted by Satan. They are the wheat among the tares which Jesus spoke of.

Even their display gives them off. But one doctrine exposes them for who they are. You know it, so no need for me to tell you.

Tell us which churches are the wheat na...

Is it too hard? Or there are no God fearing churches in this world again?

OkCornel:
Which Jesus na? Jesus aka Joshua, Yeshua and Yeshu is a common Hebrew name back then. So which Jesus na?


Research, na lie...

Same one which the Talmud said had supernatural powers...
Mother was Mary...
Executed by government

Yet you say he is not the same Jesus simply because some non-jewish writer said so?

Okcornel officially defeated.

1.) When he tried to proof that the Bible contains errors, he got BUSTED
2.) When he tried to say the Book of Jasher is God's word, he got BUSTED such that he couldn't counter.
3.) When he tried to ay that Jude quoted from a book of Enoch, he got BUSTED
4.) When he tried to uphold the Ethiopian Bible which contains fraudulent books, he got BUSTED
5.) When he tried to uphold the Jewish Talmud as the word of God, he got BUSTED





He got BUSTED

Exits thread like a Boss

Look at this coward, he just registered this moniker this month, why cant you come out on this post with your original moniker....anyway i do scriptural discussions with matured minds not with kids that throws tantrums, their fruit of ungodliness.

Seated:
It shows you are ignorant of the word of God.
Look at the rubbish you post.
when Jesus said the law must be fulfilled he clearly meant the torah which is clearly part of the bible.

you dont know the bible,

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

satan deceived eve when she added to God's word he has changed a bit.




Jesus is greater than the stars , moon and every constellation, knowledge or anything that has been or can be but yet his whole life was depended on the bible.

Jesus is the measure of whatever believers are.

how did Jesus defeated the devil? by the scripture.
Jesus showed by his life that the bible is enough

Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The bible was never an opinion or a personal revelation but men and women of God but God himself inspired it. God doesnt need to put everything but only those things he knew where neccesary to know him and bring perfection.
going outside the bible is like a child who thinks he knows more than his father.
same thing Adam and eve did, they wanted more than just obeying the word of God and then the serpent shows up and presented an alternative.

those who claim the bible is not complete are satanist because they accuse God of not providing a complete bible.

spirituality without theology is satanism. you claim you have any spiritual revelation fine, it has to go through the bible to acertain if it is true.

that is what the men of berean did

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

what do we have this days foolish people who just accept anything without checking it out to see if it is true.

LifestyleTonite:
Okcornel officially defeated.

1.) When he tried to proof that the Bible contains errors, he got BUSTED
2.) When he tried to say the Book of Jasher is God's word, he got BUSTED such that he couldn't counter.
3.) When he tried to ay that Jude quoted from a book of Enoch, he got BUSTED
4.) When he tried to uphold the Ethiopian Bible which contains fraudulent books, he got BUSTED
5.) When he tried to uphold the Jewish Talmud as the word of God, he got BUSTED





He got BUSTED

Exits thread like a Boss

See this one wallowing in delusions of grandeur, looking for how to escape.


Pentecostal, Catholic and Orthodox churches are not Christian churches according to him. Yet he is hesitant to tell us where he worships...


Anyways, more time to play around with these jokers later today...

Tosinex:
Look at this coward, he just registered this moniker this month, why cant you come out on this post with your original moniker....anyway i do scriptural discussions with matured minds not with kids that throws tantrums leading to ungodliness.

I also noticed. Yet he claimed on another thread he has been discussing with me for months!

LifestyleTonite:
Same one which the Talmud said had supernatural powers...
Mother was Mary...
Executed by government

Yet you say he is not the same Jesus simply because some non-jewish writer said so?

This one is still arguing it was only one Jesus spoken of in the Talmud?

thats how cowards do!!! they hide and disguise, so you wont know!!

OkCornel:
I also noticed. Yet he claimed on another thread he has been discussing with me for months!

LifestyleTonite:
Will just keep shut?

Who told you King James translated the KJV? Because he had his name on it? Ho and read about all the scholars from far and wide who came together to translate the KJV. The King called James only put his seal of approval on it after preventing the Catholic Church mercenaries from smuggling the apocryphal books into it.

Go and study

go and make your research about the impact of king James on so called Bible! you are bad fruit! bible says what does darkness have in common with light then asked your what was the intention of a masonry in aiding the translating of the bible. now like I have said Catholic spread the gospel round the world so why? if they are of devil.

LifestyleTonite:
Go read up about the council of Nicea and how the 66 books came about. Go do your homework

This one is saying the council of Nicea endorsed 66 books?

LifestyleTonite:
Okcornel officially defeated.

1.) When he tried to proof that the Bible contains errors, he got BUSTED
2.) When he tried to say the Book of Jasher is God's word, he got BUSTED such that he couldn't counter.
3.) When he tried to ay that Jude quoted from a book of Enoch, he got BUSTED
4.) When he tried to uphold the Ethiopian Bible which contains fraudulent books, he got BUSTED
5.) When he tried to uphold the Jewish Talmud as the word of God, he got BUSTED





He got BUSTED

Exits thread like a Boss

O boy, I missed a lot o.

Okcornel has been beaten blue black on this thread.

THREAD CLOSED

LifestyleTonite:
Okcornel officially defeated.

1.) When he tried to proof that the Bible contains errors, he got BUSTED
2.) When he tried to say the Book of Jasher is God's word, he got BUSTED such that he couldn't counter.
3.) When he tried to ay that Jude quoted from a book of Enoch, he got BUSTED
4.) When he tried to uphold the Ethiopian Bible which contains fraudulent books, he got BUSTED
5.) When he tried to uphold the Jewish Talmud as the word of God, he got BUSTED





He got BUSTED

Exits thread like a Boss

case settled

@Lifestyletonite just implied the Council of Nicaea endorsed only 66 books, and Athanasius that endorsed the Apocrypha lost out in a vote as to what the books of the Bible should be...

How many more hideous lies can you tell?

THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICAEA - AD 325;

Character and purpose

Constantine the Great summoned the bishops of the Christian Church to Nicaea to address divisions in the Church (mosaic in Hagia Sophia, Constantinople (Istanbul), ca. 1000).
The First Council of Nicaea was convened by the Roman emperor Constantine the Great upon the recommendations of a synod led by the bishop Hosius of Corduba in the Eastertide of 325. This synod had been charged with investigation of the trouble brought about by the Arian controversy in the Greek-speaking east. To most bishops, the teachings of Arius were heretical and dangerous to the salvation of souls. In the summer of 325, the bishops of all provinces were summoned to Nicaea, a place reasonably accessible to many delegates, particularly those of Asia Minor, Georgia, Armenia, Syria, Egypt, Greece, and Thrace.

This was the first general council in the history of the Church summoned by Constantine. According to Carroll, in the Council of Nicaea, "The Church had taken her first great step to define revealed doctrine more precisely in response to a challenge from a heretical theology."


Misconceptions

Biblical canon

There is no record of any discussion of the biblical canon at the council.The development of the biblical canon was nearly complete (with exceptions known as the Antilegomena, written texts whose authenticity or value is disputed) by the time the Muratorian fragment was written.

In 331, Constantine commissioned fifty Bibles for the Church of Constantinople, but little else is known (in fact, it is not even certain whether his request was for fifty copies of the entire Old and New Testaments, only the New Testament, or merely the Gospels). Some scholars believe that this request provided motivation for canon lists. In Jerome's Prologue to Judith, he claims that the Book of Judith was "found by the Nicene Council to have been counted among the number of the Sacred Scriptures", which some have suggested means the Nicene Council did discuss what documents would number among the sacred scriptures, but more likely simply means the Council used Judith in its deliberations on other matters and so it should be considered canonical.[citation needed]

The main source of the idea that the Bible was created at the Council of Nicaea seems to be Voltaire, who popularised a story that the canon was determined by placing all the competing books on an altar during the Council and then keeping the ones that did not fall off. The original source of this "fictitious anecdote" is the Synodicon Vetus, a pseudo-historical account of early Church councils from AD 887

The canonical and apocryphal books it distinguished in the following manner: in the house of God the books were placed down by the holy altar; then the council asked the Lord in prayer that the inspired works be found on top and—as in fact happened—the spurious on the bottom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

BACK TO THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, WHO LIMITED THE WORD OF GOD TO 66 BOOKS?

LifestyleTonite:
Jude didn't quote from the Book of Enoch. He simply quoted Enoch. Look at the verse again, where does it say he quoted a book? NOWHERE. He only quoted Enoch directly. How did he do that? Let's see:


Enoch’s original message was from God. It is entirely possible that the prophet Enoch may have been quoted directly by Jude, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit—since the prophecy is not contained in the Old Testament. The same Holy Spirit that gave Enoch that message told Jude what he gave Enoch. Jude didn't look into any book to know it.

This is not something that has never been done in the Bible. Apostle Paul once quoted the Lord Jesus, though the quotation he employed is nowhere recorded in the Gospel narratives

Acts 20:35 (KJV)
I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

The bold cannot be found anywhere else in the Bible showing Jesus saying such. This means Paul quoted Jesus directly as the message came from him. The Holy Spirit revealed to Paul one of those words said by Jesus which was not recorded (ecall that not everything done by Jesus was recorded). That's the same thing Jude did; he quoted the message God passed down to Enoch. Clearly, Enoch's message came from God, Jude got the exact quote from God who gave it to Enoch. Nowhere is it written that Jude quoted a so-called book of Enoch. Rather, Jude simply stated what the Holy Spirit gave to him which was exactly what Enoch said.

You got busted. Newsynews already told you this, but the recycler that you are brought it back again.

That means when Paul got converted, the early believers and the Apostles didn't teach Paul anything about the words of Jesus abi?

Oh goodness and mercy, quite an explanation

Infact, your point on Paul quoting what Jesus said but was not written in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John further buttresses what John said concerning the the life and deeds of Jesus;

John 20 v 30;
And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book

John 21 v 25;
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

The bible is not the complete word of God.

Did Jesus Say That?
by Eric Lyons, M.Min.

Near the close of his words of exhortation to the Ephesus elders recorded by Luke in Acts 20, the apostle Paul reminded them of something Jesus once said: “It is more blessed to give than to receive” (Acts 20:35). The problem that many have with Paul’s quotation of Jesus, however, is that it nowhere appears in the gospel accounts, or anywhere else in Scripture outside of Acts 20.

According to one Bible critic,
One of the great misquotes of Paul is found in Acts 20:35 where he says: “...ye ought to support the weak and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.” Nowhere in the New Testament did Jesus make such a statement. Paul’s oratory apparently got away from him (McKinsey, 1983, 8:4, emp. added).

Did Paul really make a mistake? Did he misquote Jesus? What logical explanation can be given as to why these words are not recorded in the gospel accounts?

First, there is no indication that the apostle Paul even possessed the gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John during his ministry, nor did he need them in order to know what Jesus taught. In fact, they likely were written some years after Paul had already begun his missionary journeys, and probably after he reminded the Ephesus elders of Jesus’ statement about giving. The truth is, Paul did not rely upon the gospel accounts for his knowledge of Jesus. Rather, Paul received supernatural revelation directly from God. Jesus spoke directly to Paul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9; 22:8 ), “the Spirit of Jesus” kept him from preaching in Bithynia (Acts 16:7, ASV), and “the Lord spoke to Paul...by a vision” in Corinth (Acts 18:9). Paul was an inspired apostle (cf. 1 Corinthians 14:37; 2 Peter 3:16). The message that he preached came directly from God. To the churches of Galatia, he wrote: “But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ (1:11-12, emp. added). As important as the gospel accounts are to Christians in the twenty-first century, the apostle Paul did not need to consult them in order to know if Jesus ever taught, “It is more blessed to give than to receive.”

Second, Bible students must recognize that not everything Jesus said or did was recorded by the gospel writers.
In fact, near the end of John’s gospel account, he commented on this truth twice, saying, “[T]ruly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book.... [T]here are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written” (John 20:30; 21:25). What’s more, none of the gospel accounts is exactly alike. What one writer recorded, another may have omitted.

For instance, Luke noted that Jesus told the penitent thief on the cross, “[T]oday you will be with Me in Paradise” (23:43), yet Matthew, Mark, and John omitted this saying. Does this somehow discredit Luke’s account? Not at all. The fact is, all four accounts are independent witnesses to the life of Christ, and some contain more (or less) information on a particular subject than the others.

Is it possible for Paul to have cited a saying of Jesus (that may have even been fairly well known in the first century), but that was not recorded by the gospel writers? Certainly. Does this in any way discredit Him as an inspired writer or mean that he “misquoted” Jesus? Not at all.

http://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=1805

LifestyleTonite:
Mumu

Did Jesus really stopped answering Pilate after the first question?

Matthew 27:11-14 King James Version (KJV)
And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.
Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.

Please show us Jesus' answer to Pilate's second question in the gospel of Matthew. Perhaps only you can see it. I've made it easy for you by highlighting it in red.

DissTroy:
You overly religious fanatics just blackmail without proof. Every person who studies biblical history knows there are more than 66 books in the scriptures. Even Apostle Paul wrote more than 50 books. Moses wrote several. David wrote many too. All of these books are not contained in the present day bible.

Thank you very much. "The 66 books is the complete word of God" crew will still tell you otherwise.

Ask them, when the Holy spirit gives revelation concerning the fate of a person or nation (for example Nigeria or Ghana) and it comes to pass. Is that prophecy not the word of God? Yes or No

But according to the 66 books crew, since that prophecy is not written in the 66 books of the Bible, it is not the word of God Only the 66 books has the "complete" word of God...

jcross19:
are you sure? then we are doom! King James was a masonry who helped translated bible from Latin to English what do you think having a masonry translating bible for us? now Catholic you called satanic they were the one that compiled all the scriptures to be in one piece as bible now look how satanist have compiled our bible today , what damage do you think they would have done to it? Catholic spread gospel round the world.

The irony of the whole thing is that the first version of the king james bible contained the apocrypha.

Check out the 1611 King James Bible. It's more than 66 books.

I'm patiently waiting for someone to call it a fraud as well

List of Books in the 1611 King James Bible;

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Books/1611-KJV-Original-Book-Names.php


Feel free to tell King James he was wrong in including the Apocrypha