mosgoon:


I definitely know what a top 5 school means and by the way, ivy league is a different term. MIT and caltech are not ivy league and they are above many other ivys in rankings.

Like I said, I'm refraining from writing too much, I see a lot of comments here and a lot are too centered on few idiosyncrasies.

I have several close friends and close professors from all these schools and have gained several insights into the navigation of life matters regarding gradschool, job, networks, and country specifics.

Trust me, it depends on each person, interests and circumstances. I am thinking of a way to explain it better and address misconceptions.

Also regarding that 3m dollars.. I really hope you got your facts right. For context, Google"s CEOearns 1m dollars plus, Tesla's CFO earns about 6m and that's total compensation.. So I'm really baffled where you got that figure for a grad candidate.. I could learn though.

mosgoon:


I definitely know what a top 5 school means and by the way, ivy league is a different term. MIT and caltech are not ivy league and they are above many other ivys in rankings.

Like I said, I'm refraining from writing too much, I see a lot of comments here and a lot are too centered on few idiosyncrasies.

I have several close friends and close professors from all these schools and have gained several insights into the navigation of life matters regarding gradschool, job, networks, and country specifics.

Trust me, it depends on each person, interests and circumstances. I am thinking of a way to explain it better and address misconceptions.

Also regarding that 3m dollars.. I really hope you got your facts right. For context, Google"s CEOearns 1m dollars plus, Tesla's CFO earns about 6m and that's total compensation.. So I'm really baffled where you got that figure for a grad candidate.. I could learn though.

yungmin:


See the companies you're mentioning. Please, don't forget to advise people on the course of study. If you go and do a PhD even in Harvard in an occupation that is not so much in demand, you may not find the PhD venture as rewarding as conceived. If check most of the success stories being shared, they are in ICT related fields. For example, I doubt if anyone would rush you if you go do a PhD in civil engineering at Harvard. Some of these fields of specialisations have gone full circle. In other words, they have been fully developed and the knowledge is now everywhere. ICT is a relatively evolving field of specialization and it is gaining application in virtually all sectors of human endeavour. This is while jobs are easy for these guys. Let's be mindful of the choices we make sha. Let's not use the success stories of one or two persons around to make conclusion and advise people. Intact, I think there was a survey in the US that established that a large number of PhD students tend to think that stress and financial commitment is not worth it. You can Google and check it out.

Mitocyan:

Lol I thought same regarding the 3m dollars also. But the 1m dollars salary that Google CEO gets per annum is not his total pay. He also gets paid in stock and it can get as high as 200m dollars per annum. I believe you should also be aware that he's worth over a billion dollars. Mind you most Nigerians will definitely accept 1million dollars to resign from their company right here and now so let's tone down on this interest talks.

mosgoon:
i was referring to pay. "let's tone down on the interest talks''...i believe you don't understand where i'm coming from. If you are applying this logic, then it's no different than any other money talk in any facet of life. This is different. This context refers to navigating gradschool, jobs, networks, countries...for success

Jarus:


I would choose fully funded PhD in a top 5 US school over NNPC.

It opens better opportunities. PhD in a top school is highly coveted in the international job market. My friend that did his PhD, also fully funded, in a Top 20 US school got Shell US job almost immediately after finishing.

yungmin:


See the companies you're mentioning. Please, don't forget to advise people on the course of study. If you go and do a PhD even in Harvard in an occupation that is not so much in demand, you may not find the PhD venture as rewarding as conceived. If check most of the success stories being shared, they are in ICT related fields. [b]For example, I doubt if anyone would rush you if you go do a PhD in civil engineering at Harvard. [/b]Some of these fields of specialisations have gone full circle. In other words, they have been fully developed and the knowledge is now everywhere. ICT is a relatively evolving field of specialization and it is gaining application in virtually all sectors of human endeavour. This is while jobs are easy for these guys. Let's be mindful of the choices we make sha. Let's not use the success stories of one or two persons around to make conclusion and advise people. Intact, I think there was a survey in the US that established that a large number of PhD students tend to think that stress and financial commitment is not worth it. You can Google and check it out.

Jiang:


Nope my brother you be surprised woh.


@Loveprick ( funny name) Is right, unless you are planning to start you own company or firm, please get some experience first if na salary job you want do, cause if person makes it to the interview stage with plenty certificates, some1 with more experience go collect the job & leave you with ur laminated papers

Mitocyan:


To add to that I know a guy that went for a fully funded PhD in Louisiana state university(LSU)in Electrical Eng and got a job immediately after as an Engineer in Intel USA. If you are conversant with the rankings you'll know that LSU is not in top 100 USA universities let alone in the world at least the last time I checked.

mosgoon:


Be careful to note that a lot of people have different paths and interests. Nothing is set in stone as an ideal option. I have several examples/friends who did otherwise from your advice and are far better off than their counterparts aligned with your advice and the other way round. Be open-minded. I don't want to go into detail as I remember @BenFlash's and others advice and wouldn't want another swarm on me

Mitocyan:


Lool why if I may ask?

Belac290:
Exactly...my close friend did his Msc in dat same university nd got a job immediately wit Exxon Mobil in Louisiana

Jiang:
Well to each his own woh, as for me , I feel much more comfortable in Nigeria, dis country has alot of potential that majority of d youths failed to notice as they are blinded by oyibo land. Yes I can take a leave to study for MSc abroad AFTER working in NNPC for a bit( if I get the job). But I will jejely come back after am done.

I have no attachment to any country apart from Nigeria, I prefer to live here than any oyibo land.


I can't use NNPC or naija tax payers money to study abroad & only to ditch them because one IOCs from nowhere come with a higher job offer. My priority in this life ain't really MONEY. so far, am not wrong, as things always fall into place at the right time for me

joobseekar:


It's now "at least September"? so it can even be longer than that??

cocococo:

Na wah o. You people have now shifted APL date to an indefinite far date that I can’t even see again.

cocococo:

Na wah o. You people have now shifted APL date to an indefinite far date that I can’t even see again.

chidiebereuzoma:

cocococo is that you

Ginalex:


I thought I was the only one who felt this way...

Enrypech:
God, NNPC APL is what I want now


Scholarship = Abeg shift first, I am busy with NNPC,We can talk later.

Jiang:


Nope my brother, you be surprised woh.


@Loveprick ( funny name) Is right, unless you are planning to start you own company or firm, please get some experience first if na salary job you want do, cause if person makes it to the interview stage with plenty certificates, some1 with more experience go collect the job & leave you with ur laminated papers

ChasteGhuy:



Which kind people dey this thread sev! LOL ... Laminated paper bawo

Mitocyan:

Lol I thought same regarding the 3m dollars also. But the 1m dollars salary that Google CEO gets per annum is not his total pay. He also gets paid in stock and it can get as high as 200m dollars per annum. I believe you should also be aware that he's worth over a billion dollars. Mind you most Nigerians will definitely accept 1million dollars to resign from their company right here and now so let's tone down on this interest talks.

tyakson99:

, .. Don't let civil engineering guys come after you o. They will tell you how many construction companies will flock you after studying civil

Alfrediolu:
oga Jarus,

Kindly assist with a description of career path for GTs as regards NNPC... I mean the promotion rate and possible KPI needed or years as the case may be.

Thanks in anticipation.

Jiang:
Well to each his own woh, as for me , I feel much more comfortable in Nigeria, dis country has alot of potential that majority of d youths failed to notice as they are blinded by oyibo land. Yes I can take a leave to study for MSc abroad AFTER working in NNPC for a bit( if I get the job). But I will jejely come back after am done.

I have no attachment to any country apart from Nigeria, I prefer to live here than any oyibo land.


I can't use NNPC or naija tax payers money to study abroad & only to ditch them because one IOCs from nowhere come with a higher job offer. My priority in this life ain't really MONEY. so far, am not wrong, as things always fall into place at the right time for me

cocococo:

Na wah o. You people have now shifted APL date to an indefinite far date that I can’t even see again.

GeeRaoult:




Egbon, xfire biko nu come and help this guy out. That has been my long innate question but finally someone has asked.

Also, would you go for NNPC job over a fully funded PhD in a U.S top 5 institution?

Oga Jarus you're a treasure trough and your contributions are quite a bliss.

Local men and women, pls anyone who has accurate knowledge regarding this request should help me and this guy, and of course other silent ones who may seek such quest tacitly.

xfire:


It depends on what you want in life.

On face value, a PhD in a top 5 institution in the US is much better pick than a job with NNPC. You have more opportunities and you can decide to settle in the US or virtually any other country in the world. It's lifetime opportunity I personally wouldn't advise even an enemy to reject for NNPC offer.

On the flip side, I would advise the person to quietly pick an NNPC job if he/she is not interested in academic rigour associated with a PhD program. It takes a whole lot of research and hard work. Family consideration also come into play, eventhough you can also decide to move the family over to the US (so not much of a big issue)

But I will believe that anyone who applied for a PhD program and successfully gets a full funded scholarship is interested and up to the task. So for me, it's the PhD program all the waaaaaaaaaay!!!

Xfire