coluka:

What saltiness? I was just returning the "lil bit o' teasing" in your posts back to you so if you call that saltiness then apparently you are the one who is salty because it all came from you

Touché

coluka:

Stop trying to divert, the issue here is that gerrymandering has no effect on the presidential elections or any statewide elections for that matter as you ignorantly claimed

it doesn't, redrawing voting districts to concentrate strengths and weaknesses in districts to perpetuate particular candidates and parties in power has no effect? You bandy the word ignorance about a lot especially when you wallow in it alongside those who give your comments the likes and shares it shouldn't deserve because of partisan affiliations, well, educate my ignorance away, since it only affects congressional elections according to you, why is the republican party trying to influence policy at the national level through the backdoor via the census questionnaire as revealed in the hoffeller files? What do they have for non Hispanic whites or against Hispanic whites because according to your party and trump, that's actually a thing

coluka:

It doesn't matter, if you believe McConnell will lose Kentucky to a Democrat, then you are indeed living in an alternate universe. Why stop there? You might as well also believe the Democrat presidential candidate will win Kentucky. Reality check, believe it or not, neither of those two is going to happen.

it doesn't matter? gee! Why should it matter? I don't know, maybe Moscow Mitch could just gerrymander his way to an undeserved victory, according to you it applies in this case right? And suddenly since the subject matter doesn't fit your narrative, you shut it down with a(your) alternative fact a.k.a "it doesn't matter"........ well, those coal workers never mattered did they? Only if they knew beforehand

coluka:

Impress you? What for? I never debate liberals to impress them, I've been bred off that a long time ago. I only lay out the facts. You are still going on about Mitch McConnell? And you're talking about people living alternate reality? Let's talk about that? In who's alternate reality was Alaska sold to an American businessman? In who's alternate reality is gerrymandering affecting statewide elections? I have been going through a lot of old posts here and I can tell you that if anyone here should be accused of living in alternate reality here, it is you. I even saw where you were arguing that the new York times is a conservative newspaper. That says all I need to know about you. You smell alternative universe from head to toe

Picking at straws won't make the fact that your Moscow Mitch is unpopular back home right now and i gave you a catchment republican base he's just lost and you have countered it with "nothintg factual" asides your trump like opinion
And my posts on Alaska and gerrymandering have nothing to do with my post on Moscow Mitch but typical republican like you grasping at straws resorts to "whataboutism". But since you mentioned and we are debunking alternate facts here and now, my post on Alaska and virgin islands also included me admitting to not knowing all i should on it(very kind of you not to mention that as it wouldn't suit your narrative) and you actually said you never defended Trump's plan to buy Greenland so the idiocy of the proposal is unchanged by your own tacit denial supporting my initial argument, and on gerrymandering not affecting statewide elections (you forgot to include presidential elections), you have not provided any evidence to prove my purported ignorance asides your assertion that it does not, and yes, any argument you make on that i would refer to the hoffeller files since that is verbatim for verbatim confirmed republican policy asides the non Hispanic whites part
When you reply this post, don't obsfucate, stick to the Mitch McConnell subject matter and how good his re-election chances are in 2020 with facts not opinion
You can respond to the latter in related posts where the topics are relevant, let's not digress

Galactichorde, I am not going to waste my time answering your all your posts one after another so I am going to respond to all with this one post

1. Gerrymandering does not affect presidential or statewide elections because the whole state votes for the candidates standing in a statewide elections. Every voter in the state from every county and congressional district votes and the votes are counted together. Gerrymandering affects house of reps and state Congress elections because only a portion of the state votes for the candidate so if you want your candidate to keep winning all you need to do is redraw the map of the specific district to contain the parts where more of your supporters reside and your party will have the upper hand in elections there. Both parties do this in the states they control so it's not an issue of one party or the other.

2. Mitch McConnell's election is a statewide election so gerrymandering has no effects on it as you claimed

3. I defended Trump's attempt to buy Greenland because he has absolutely every right to aspire for that if he wishes, he is not breaking any law or any precedent by doing that and I think it was a smart move on his part. At no point did I say I didn't defend Trump's right to buy Greenland like you lied in your post again. What I said I didn't defend was his diplomatic spat with the danish PM over the Greenland issue, I didn't defend it because I felt the spat was unnecessary

4. Stop fooling yourself, No Democrat candidate can beat Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.

The September 12th debate stage is set!!
Each candidate gets 1min 45 secs to respond to direct questions, and 45 secs for rebuttals.

Joe Biden's campaign is becoming a big joke as he commits one gaffe after another. At this rate, it is one day, one gaffe. He even forgot Obama's name at some point and referred to Theresa May as Margeret Thatcher. He said he was in Vermont when he was actually in new Hampshire, he doesn't know who the new prime minister of Britain is e.t.c. but yesterday he set a new world gaffe record by making multiple gaffes on a war story in three minutes. From the Washington Post;

“In the space of three minutes, Biden got the time period, the location, the heroic act, the type of medal, the military branch and the rank of the recipient wrong, as well as his own role in the ceremony.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-he-campaigns-for-president-joe-biden-tells-a-moving-but-false-war-story/2019/08/29/b5159676-c9aa-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

Seven gaffes in three minutes, Well done Joe!

PDPGuy:
The September 12th debate stage is set!!
Each candidate gets 1min 45 secs to respond to direct questions, and 45 secs for rebuttals.

So they finally succeeded in getting Tulsi Gabbard off the debates. Hmmm, it seems the DNC are out to rig the primaries for some preferred candidates again just like they did for Hillary the last time. They don't even like Bernie Sanders and they would get him off too if they could

obixcel:
James Comey not being prosecuted is a stand alone proof that the Deep State is indeed something to be feared

...unfortunately, just like the Mueller report which didn’t indict Trump…the IG report decided not to prosecute on Comey...there's no way they would prosecute Comey...he would have welcome a public trial in which he could demonstrate why he chose to release those memos rather than leave them for the criminal cabal in the Trump administration to bury them...so, in typical Trump and his followers fashion, they'll declare victory and walk away...the last thing Trump wants is a public airing of his attempts at obstruction of justice...

...unfortunately, nobody is talking about Comey's attempt at discrediting Hillary Clinton about new information concerning the now infamous lost emails from her private account...two months before the elections in November 2016...which seriously dented her chances...

...i seriously believe Comey should face trial...

PDPGuy:
The September 12th debate stage is set!!
Each candidate gets 1min 45 secs to respond to direct questions, and 45 secs for rebuttals.

...there's no strong candidate among these people with strong credentials to tackle the divisions in the nation at this moment in time...

mexxmoney:

So they finally succeeded in getting Tulsi Gabbard off the debates. Hmmm, it seems the DNC are out to rig the primaries for some preferred candidates again just like they did for Hillary the last time. They don't even like Bernie Sanders and they would get him off too if they could

It's already Fixed, The corrupt DNC does it again!

.

Prince Andrew parties with sex beast Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump at luxury resort

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-parties-sex-beast-19034793

At first glance it looks like any other high-society photo – the future President and First Lady of America alongside the Queen’s second son.
But lurking in the background, looking directly at the camera, is now-notorious paedophile and pal of Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein.

British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, alleged by the billionaire’s young victims to have been complicit in their abuse, is also pictured.
The never-before seen photo sheds further light on the Duke of York’s then friendship with disgraced financier.
Epstein killed himself in jail this month while awaiting trial on child sex trafficking charges.
It also shows the global scale of the widening scandal that now embroils a number of the world’s most powerful and wealthy men.

Prince Andrew’s presence will also increase intrigue as he continues to reel from sex abuse allegations revealed in court documents.

It is the first time the Duke, Epstein and Maxwell have been captured in the same frame. The image, printed by the Daily Mirror for the first time, was taken at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida in 2000. Andrew was guest of honour at the star-studded gala, hosted by Trump eight years before Epstein’s conviction for child sex offences. It took place just months before Andrew’s accuser, Virginia Roberts, began working at the club as a changing room assistant.


...the British press are something else...

coluka:
Galactichorde, I am not going to waste my time answering your all your posts one after another so I am going to respond to all with this one post

1. Gerrymandering does not affect presidential or statewide elections because the whole state votes for the candidates standing in a statewide elections. Every voter in the state from every county and congressional district votes and the votes are counted together. Gerrymandering affects house of reps and state Congress elections because only a portion of the state votes for the candidate so if you want your candidate to keep winning all you need to do is redraw the map of the specific district to contain the parts where more of your supporters reside and your party will have the upper hand in elections there. Both parties do this in the states they control so it's not an issue of one party or the other.

Gerrymandering affects congressional votes and at least in the states of Nebraska and Maine, electoral college votes are allotted according to congressional districts so it has that much effect on presidential elections

2. Mitch McConnell's election is a statewide election so gerrymandering has no effects on it as you claimed

who draws the voting districts if not state legislature, in 2010, republican controlled state congresses redrew congressional maps in a project called REDMAP or rediscting majority project as part of their long term self perpetuation in power, couple that with voter suppression by republican controlled states as blatant as was done recently in Georgia. So stop your misinformation!

3. I defended Trump's attempt to buy Greenland because he has absolutely every right to aspire for that if he wishes, he is not breaking any law or any precedent by doing that and I think it was a smart move on his part. At no point did I say I didn't defend Trump's right to buy Greenland like you lied in your post again. What I said I didn't defend was his diplomatic spat with the danish PM over the Greenland issue, I didn't defend it because I felt the spat was unnecessary

Stop deflecting, no one accused trump of any crime in this case, that was never the argument, the point we all tried to make was that of gross stupidity and buffoonery on Trump's part while you tried to create false equivalence between his joke of an attempt and 20th century territory transactions between sovereign nations which in its own, deny all you may is a defence of Trump's stupidity! And sugarcoat the incident all you may with phrases like "unnecessary spat", an attempt to purchase the territory of a sovereign nation that was never put up for sale and especially on twitter is at best a stupid feeling of entitlement and at worst............................ I'll let you fill the blanks, if you are honest, stupidity will only be the beginning

4. Stop fooling yourself, No Democrat candidate can beat Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.

Why? because you say so from your vantage point of having a crystal ball? or because you are so all knowing we should take your words without having provided any counter argument or evidence to back your claims? Or maybe it is because you do know something about Moscow Mitch's senate district in Kentucky, something involving gerrymandering and/or voter suppression

garetz:
Joe Biden's campaign is becoming a big joke as he commits one gaffe after another. At this rate, it is one day, one gaffe. He even forgot Obama's name at some point and referred to Theresa May as Margeret Thatcher. He said he was in Vermont when he was actually in new Hampshire, he doesn't know who the new prime minister of Britain is e.t.c. but yesterday he set a new world gaffe record by making multiple gaffes on a war story in three minutes. From the Washington Post;

“In the space of three minutes, Biden got the time period, the location, the heroic act, the type of medal, the military branch and the rank of the recipient wrong, as well as his own role in the ceremony.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-he-campaigns-for-president-joe-biden-tells-a-moving-but-false-war-story/2019/08/29/b5159676-c9aa-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

Seven gaffes in three minutes, Well done Joe!

he mustn't get the democratic nomination or the democrats might as well throw in the towel

TheShopKeeper:


...there's no strong candidate among these people with strong credentials to tackle the divisions in the nation at this moment in time...

those divisions will be hard to tackle as they weren't created by progressive candidates but rather trump and the Republicans so tackling them should not take priority over formulating and implementing policies which have support across the divide, policies like improving healtchcare coverage, removing student loan debts, reducing the cost of prescription drugs, removing corporate money and lobbying from politics, improved social security, addressing the trade imbalance with China like an adult, protecting the electoral system and restoring decorum and sanity to national politics

The Democratic primary is looking more or less bb9ja. With many candidate in for the money and fame

GalaticHorde:

Gerrymandering affects congressional votes and at least in the states of Nebraska and Maine, electoral college votes are allotted according to congressional districts so it has that much effect on presidential elections

who draws the voting districts if not state legislature, in 2010, republican controlled state congresses redrew congressional maps in a project called REDMAP or rediscting majority project as part of their long term self perpetuation in power, couple that with voter suppression by republican controlled states as blatant as was done recently in Georgia. So stop your misinformation!




Stop deflecting, no one accused trump of any crime in this case, that was never the argument, the point we all tried to make was that of gross stupidity and buffoonery on Trump's part while you tried to create false equivalence between his joke of an attempt and 20th century territory transactions between sovereign nations which in its own, deny all you may is a defence of Trump's stupidity! And sugarcoat the incident all you may with phrases like "unnecessary spat", an attempt to purchase the territory of a sovereign nation that was never put up for sale and especially on twitter is at best a stupid feeling of entitlement and at worst............................ I'll let you fill the blanks, if you are honest, stupidity will only be the beginning


Why? because you say so from your vantage point of having a crystal ball? or because you are so all knowing we should take your words without having provided any counter argument or evidence to back your claims? Or maybe it is because you do know something about Moscow Mitch's senate district in Kentucky, something involving gerrymandering and/or voter suppression

You are starting to bring on a headache with your unbelievable ignorance in this matter. How does gerrymandering affect Mitch McConnell's statewide election? Is Mitch McConnell's election a statewide senatorial election or house congressional district election? How can you be arguing about something you are obviously so ignorant about? Even your fellow liberals in the house will be laughing at your total ignorance on this matter right now. Go and educate yourself on the difference between a statewide senatorial election and a house congressional district election and which of them Senator McConnell is standing for before you give us a headache here with your ignorant arguments. US Senate elections are statewide and not affected by Gerrymandering!!!

Thankfully i can see you finally went to educate yourself on gerrymandering having no effect on the presidential elections except in Maine and Nebraska. The additional thing you need to know is that you can't even win the presidential election in any of those two states by gerrymandering!! Why? Because only one electoral college vote is allotted by congressional district in both these States, the rest of the electoral college votes actually go to the winner of the statewide elections in that state i.e Winner of either congressional districts in those States get one electoral college vote each while the winner of the state carries the rest of the electoral college votes. So in a nutshell, the highest any party can get if they try to gerrymander a presidential election in either of these states is one single electoral vote. And that one vote has never decided any elections in US history.

As a matter of fact since Maine and Nebraska decided to adopt this system in 1972 and 1992 respectively, only once has that one single vote gone to a different candidate from the one that won the rest of the state's electoral votes.

In Nebraska, it was 2008 when Obama won that one single vote while McCain carried the rest of the votes

In Maine, it was in 2016 when Trump won that single vote while Hillary won the rest of the votes.

So you are even scoring an own goal if you want to use Maine and Nebraska as an example of how the GOP are rigging the electoral college because the very first beneficiary of that split electoral votes system was Barack Obama!!!

mexxmoney:

So they finally succeeded in getting Tulsi Gabbard off the debates. Hmmm, it seems the DNC are out to rig the primaries for some preferred candidates again just like they did for Hillary the last time. They don't even like Bernie Sanders and they would get him off too if they could

I was surprised she was excluded because she polled at 2% or more in the surveys conducted by the largest circulating newspapers in both New Hampshire and South Carolina.

I wonder what criteria the DNC used in deciding which polls are “DNC-approved” polls

Branzy:
The Democratic primary is looking more or less bb9ja. With many candidate in for the money and fame

You aren’t wrong
Some people run for President to receive favorable advances on book deals, or a coveted cabinet position

basilico:


Old news. Fact or fiction

Fox News host put Trump on notice: "We don’t work for you. I don’t work for you."

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/neil-cavuto-donald-trump_n_5d68c772e4b02bc6bb375f33

Fox News host Neil Cavuto defended himself and his network after a series of attacks by President Donald Trump.

Earlier this week, Trump complained about his coverage on the network and griped that “Fox isn’t working for us anymore!” He even encouraged his supporters to change the channel.

But Cavuto fired back with a declaration of independence.

“First of all, Mr. President, we don’t work for you. I don’t work for you,” he said on Thursday. “My job is to cover you, not fawn over you or rip you. Just report on you ― call balls and strikes on you.”

Both Fox News and Fox Business feature numerous opinion shows where hosts routinely shower Trump with praise. But the networks also have news operations that report on his plunging poll numbers, his failure to keep campaign promises and his many lies.

Cavuto shared some of those falsehoods on Thursday:

“I’m not the one who said tariffs are a wonderful thing. You are. Just like I’m not the one who said Mexico would pay for the wall. You did. Just like I’m not the one who claimed that Russia didn’t meddle in the 2016 election. You did. I’m sorry if you don’t like these facts being brought up, but they are not fake because I did. What would be fake is if I never did.”[b][/b]

Then, Cavuto told Trump that he was not going to get a free pass in the network’s news coverage.

“Hard as it is to fathom, Mr. President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass,” he said. “Unfortunately, just a free press.”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q644cFgoGV4

coluka:
Galactichorde, I am not going to waste my time answering your all your posts one after another so I am going to respond to all with this one post

1. Gerrymandering does not affect presidential or statewide elections because the whole state votes for the candidates standing in a statewide elections. Every voter in the state from every county and congressional district votes and the votes are counted together. Gerrymandering affects house of reps and state Congress elections because only a portion of the state votes for the candidate so if you want your candidate to keep winning all you need to do is redraw the map of the specific district to contain the parts where more of your supporters reside and your party will have the upper hand in elections there. Both parties do this in the states they control so it's not an issue of one party or the other.

2. Mitch McConnell's election is a statewide election so gerrymandering has no effects on it as you claimed

3. I defended Trump's attempt to buy Greenland because he has absolutely every right to aspire for that if he wishes, he is not breaking any law or any precedent by doing that and I think it was a smart move on his part. At no point did I say I didn't defend Trump's right to buy Greenland like you lied in your post again. What I said I didn't defend was his diplomatic spat with the danish PM over the Greenland issue, I didn't defend it because I felt the spat was unnecessary

4. Stop fooling yourself, No Democrat candidate can beat Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.

When I say you are too deep into Trump's ass you complain. How can you support Trump's offer to buy a land and people not for sale? I am sure you will defends trump if he proposes to buy your whole family with wife, mother and sisters included.

When the US bought those territories you love to use as examples, it was practically barren land, with little or no human habitation, being administered by a country far away. If it was populated, I am sure the people would have fought for independence from the US. The marshal Islands was captured from Japan during WW2, and used for their nuclear tests. They fought and gained independence after being under the US for 40 years.

Greenland has a population of about 57,000 people, running their own government and economy. What happens to these people after Trump buys Greenland? Will the people become us citizens or they will be asked to vacate their ancestral lands for the US to occupy?

wirinet:


When I say you are too deep into Trump's ass you complain. How can you support Trump's offer to buy a land and people not for sale? I am sure you will defends trump if he proposes to buy your whole family with wife, mother and sisters included.

When the US bought those territories you love to use as examples, it was practically barren land, with little or no human habitation, being administered by a country far away. If it was populated, I am sure the people would have fought for independence from the US. The marshal Islands was captured from Japan during WW2, and used for their nuclear tests. They fought and gained independence after being under the US for 40 years.

Greenland has a population of about 57,000 people, running their own government and economy. What happens to these people after Trump buys Greenland? Will the people become us citizens or they will be asked to vacate their ancestral lands for the US to occupy?

Stop being petty, the people in those territories will become US citizens and I am sure they will love being US citizens better than being Danes. It would have been a win win situation for all involved if the deal had gone through

coluka:

Stop being petty, the people in those territories will become US citizens and I am sure they will love being US citizens better than being Danes. It would have been a win win situation for all involved if the deal had gone through

Danish citizens would love being US citizens? You are either highly ignorant or Trump's ass does not make you think clearly.

Countries With The Best Quality Of Life, 2019

Denmark has been named the world’s best country to live in, according to the statistical analysis (2019 ) by the CEOWORLD magazine, with Switzerland Finland, Australia, and Austria rounding off the top five. The ranking looks at 70 countries around the world. As for European countries, they occupy 8 of the top 10 spots in this year’s ranking. - https://ceoworld.biz/2019/04/11/best-quality-of-life-2019/

How many Scandinavian citizens want to become US citizens when the quality of life in Scandinavia is higher than that of the US:-

Trump said he wanted more immigrants from places like Norway. Now he’s using policy to try to make it happen.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-trump-green-cards-20190813-mp2pfpdtevc25j24qft7enasoi-story.html%3foutputType=amp

wirinet:


Danish citizens would love being US citizens? You are either highly ignorant or Trump's ass does not make you think clearly.




How many Scandinavian citizens want to become US citizens when the quality of life in Scandinavia is higher than that of the US:-

Again I will ask you to stop being petty. Mainland Denmark is not greenland is it? Whats the standard of living in greenland? Anways, There are many ways to ensure that the wish of the citizens of Greenland are respected on this matter, one of them being that the deal could be tied to a referendum by the Greenlanders. In which case, when the deal is done, the Greenlanders will have to vote to ratify it or vote to reject it . so I don't see the issue of citizenship being a problem if the deal had gone through. Neither you nor I can say which the Greenlanders will prefer so I think it will be better left to them to decide for themselves

coluka:

Again I will ask you to stop being petty. Mainland Denmark is not greenland is it? Whats the standard of living in greenland? Anways, There are many ways to ensure that the wish of the citizens of Greenland are respected on this matter, one of them being that the deal could be tied to a referendum by the Greenlanders. In which case, when the deal is done, the Greenlanders will have to vote to ratify it or vote to reject it . so I don't see the issue of citizenship being a problem if the deal had gone through. Neither you nor I can say which the Greenlanders will prefer so I think it will be better left to them to decide for themselves

You people and referendum, it's like an obsession. Did the people and government of Greenland ask for a referendum? You want to impose a referendum on Greenland, the way IPOB want to impose a referendum on the whole of the Niger delta?

As Danish citizens, Greenlanders have all the rights and privileges of Danish citizens. Do you know the social security privileges and benefits of a Danish citizens? The US doesn't even come close.

wirinet:

You people and referendum, it's like an obsession. Did the people and government of Greenland ask for a referendum? You want to impose a referendum on Greenland, the way IPOB want to impose a referendum on the whole of the Niger delta?

As Danish citizens, Greenlanders have all the rights and privileges of Danish citizens. Do you know the social security privileges and benefits of a Danish citizens? The US doesn't even come close.

How am I supposed to respond to this childish tantrum? Everything we are saying here is hypothetical. The deal didn't happen did it. And if it did happen between Denmark and the US, the referendum would be an opportunity for Greenlanders to either accept or reject it.

coluka:

How am I supposed to respond to this childish tantrum? Everything we are saying here is hypothetical. The deal didn't happen did it. And if it did happen between Denmark and the US, the referendum would be an opportunity for Greenlanders to either accept or reject it.

You still don't get it. It an insult to a people and a government when you tell them you want to buy their land and people. They did not inform the world they are broke or need money? If trump buys their lands (and peoples) how will the money be shared? The Greenlanders have no affiliation or relations with the US, how do you think they can merge together in a country.
I thought you guys are alleging Nigeria is a contraption of unrelated tribes and people forced together, and you want everyone to go their separate ways. Why then do you want to force Scandinavians with Americans?

wirinet:


You still don't get it. It an insult to a people and a government when you tell them you want to buy their land and people. They did not inform the world they are broke or need money? If trump buys their lands (and peoples) how will the money be shared? The Greenlanders have no affiliation or relations with the US, how do you think they can merge together in a country.
I thought you guys are alleging Nigeria is a contraption of unrelated tribes and people forced together, and you want everyone to go their separate ways. Why then do you want to force Scandinavians with Americans?

No one is forcing anyone to stay with anyone hence the referendum!!! The referendum means they have a choice to either accept to be part of the US or reject it if the deal had gone through. Why do I have to spell these simple things out for you people? The referendum puts the power in the hands of the people to decide their own destiny.

coluka:

No one is forcing anyone to stay with anyone hence the referendum!!! The referendum means they have a choice to either accept to be part of the US or reject it if the deal had gone through. Why do I have to spell these simple things out for you people? The referendum puts the power in the hands of the people to decide their own destiny.

OK. I give up.

wirinet:

OK. I give up.

you don't argue with wilful blindness

coluka:


Liberal politicians are busy flying all over the place in jets and riding expensive cars emitting carbon at an astonishing rate. I should think that if we truly had only 12 years to climate Armageddon, then these jokers would be doing every thing to reduce their carbon imprints. They won't do that but they will complain about cow farts and people eating burgers. And you are spot on about Obama the hypocrite purchasing a Beach front home. That's just a perfect demonstration of the hypocrisy of these jokers

That rascal OCS Orcasio Cortez came up with a new green deal. Then her chief staffer went on live TV saying the GND was a front for gov takeover of key economic policies. in other words the GND is a front for socialism.Which has worked out so successfully in Venezuela where the poor eat from tyd trash cans dumped by you guess who. the rich.