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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by holuphisayor(m): 12:39pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
Imagine oh. We're in 2019 these useless snaps already fuelling their greed for 2023. How will government perform with this kind of mindset. 2 Likes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by StaffofOrayan(m): 12:39pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
Hehehehe kikikikikikiki Envy? ibechris: |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 12:43pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
VillagePipu:We sure have a choice on a normal we can back south west ,but the have proven never to learn ,so we would back the north get back to factory setting Relegate tinubu and his gang them form alliance with the new south west leaders unit the south middle belt and northern minority We wont be like some people that took vice president and speaker we would make sure each region get a fair share 3 Likes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 12:44pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
mrvitalis: And the Yorubas don't really care because we are the only ethnic group that keeps evolving politically in Nigeria. The North is still attached to central power because they myopically see this as crucial to their prosperity without realising it is the backward and conservative politics the leaders of the region practice that has condemned them to under-development. The Igbos are inflexible mentally and cannot focus politically because their national and even world view remains limited to seeking enemies to fight instead of just accepting that politics remain about permanent interest and not permanent friendship or enmity. The Yorubas are pragmatic and if one door closes we find another to open. DAWN initiative was devised to bypass how the PDP tried to choke the development of the SW under OBJ and then Yar Adua/GEJ. We are not Igbos to shout secession/Biafra alone or Northerners to think we must remain tied to the apron strings of Nigeria forever. We won't accept not being equal stakeholders in Nigeria as Igbos have settled for and we won't subscribe to being unfair to other Nigerians to monopolise the most influential offices in Nigeria for the benefit of ourselves and our 'big men' alone as the North does. Yorubas remain ready for whatever happens because people who seek solutions and progress always will manage to land on their feet whatever the future throws up. http://dawncommission.org/ About DAWN Commission 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Reference(m): 12:45pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
Racoon: 'Die' as in the containment vessel used to hold molten metal while it cools and solidifies. The expression used ro connote fate accompli, something almost irreversible, terminal. 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 12:51pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
VillagePipu: GEJ worked hard to install a Yoruba person as the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the fourth most powerful office in the country. But Yorubas, led by Tinubu scuttled that in preference for a northerner, Aminu Tambuwal. Yoruba was the DG of NIA. Yoruba was the chief of Air staff, and there were Yoruba ministers, one of whom was Akin Adesina, the current ADB chairman, so stop lying and showing the content of your jaundiced mind. During GEJ's period there were more Yorubas manning the major security and intelligence formations. It was only Ihejirika that the Igbos had, but you don't see us complain about that. With your attempt to try and steal the Igbo plot, while at the same time, trying to intimidate the north from aiming for the presidency, I believe you guys are already proving the AMALA POLITICAL INCLINATIONS you were tagged with. My advice to the north is simple. If the SW goes for the presidency, it means zoning is dead. The north should also aspire for that position, and I can assure them that Igbos will not play that southern solidarity crap. I suspect the SS will also not be hoodwinked by any fake southern solidarity moves by the Yorubas when the times comes. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 12:58pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk: Did I hear you say FIGHT TO CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY WE DIE HERE. We will all experience the result of treachery. The north MUST BE SUPPORTED, if APC fields a Yoruba man. You are going nowhere, and if we get any of those protests, Igbos will support Operation Python Dance in the SW, if the protest has to do with some warped idea of Yorubas being denied the presidency. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 12:59pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
ibechris: Sir, you make me laugh. As usual, it is about crass materialism for Igbos. Everyone thirsty for knowledge, and seeking to know the core character of our major ethnic groups, should read the factual chronology of Nigeria below. Note the contributions, actions and inactions of the major ethnic players in Nigeria's history. Perhaps it will be clear to some what the Yorubas represent despite the name-calling by our detractors , from the North and South, who have been major cause of the chaos the peaceful and sensible Yorubas always find themselves in the middle of due to the actions of unreasonable, murderous and vainglorious folks around them as obtains till date some want to tout as "bravery" or "valour" when they don't know the true meaning of those words. https://www.refworld.org/docid/469f38c5c.html |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by happney65: 12:59pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
mrvitalis: What do you mean by southern unity?Did we have any agreement with anybody to support GEJ mainly because he was from the SS or what are you saying?Abi you were in Kosovo when the SW voted for GEJ in 2011 and two southern states voted for Atiku in 2019 Oyo and Ondo states as against our son that is Vice president Do you think we the SW play tribal politics?No we dont..We simply play the politics you think is good for us henceforth what Tinubu and co did in 2015 even though it was wrong,he simply did what an average politician would do. abi you wont also do the same.. so when I see you people saying unity and saying the SW betrayed you am like was there an agreement to support GEJ for reelection in 2015 or what?Please dont angry me o |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 1:01pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
Mraphel: Answer is YES. We brought OBJ to power |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 1:03pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
happney65:Sure na ..thats why we would back the north na |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 1:05pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:Blah blah blah it has now dawn that north wont hand over to u right ? |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by fesla: 1:08pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
hisexcellency34:Atiku ke? |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 1:15pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
OfoIgbo: Bruv, try to keep up. We are not one way traffic (Biafra or death) like Igbos. I already gave the DAWN initiative as an example of how the Yorubas understand how to be protectionist, within Nigeria, if the overarching conditions call for it. We can be nationalist too if it suits us and the condition of the day show us that this is the way to be. It is Igbos who are are irrevocably tied to redundant ideology i.e we can only accept Biafra" , when GEJ is out of power, or"we run Nigeria" when Jonathan, Oduah, Anyim et al held sway. Yorubas understand that, at anytime, we can attempt to mould our land in our own image if others decide to be backward and regressive. America is the perfect example with how some States are so different ideologically and politically you would not think you are in the same nation. 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 1:18pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
mrvitalis: Bruv, they will. Just telling you what may happen if they don't. That is how confident we Yorubas are in our own strength and what we bring to the Nigerian table. 2 Likes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 1:21pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:Na here we dey |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 1:27pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
mrvitalis: Bro, forget the idea that any Yoruba hates Igbos and mean them harm. The reality on the ground does not bear this out and you know it. Our main grouse is that you guys cannot let go of your enmity for Yorubas because you blame us for your loss of the civil war. The modern Yoruba is no longer willing to be a prisoner to the guilt-tripping your fathers put our fathers through. This is why you mention 'betrayal' daily. We are not your enemies and mean you no harm. If you wish to continue hating us blindly and trying to frustrate us then carry on. We will break Northern dominance of Nigerian politics without you. That I am sure of. For the Yorubas "where there is a will there is a way". Nothing is constant in life but change. You Igbos may not believe this but the Yorubas do and this even explain why they voted healthily for Atiku and your Son Obi because many Yorubas felt Buhari and Osinbajo had not done enough and others deserve to be given a chance to show what they can do. 2 Likes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 1:28pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk: So you did not vote for GEJ in 2015 because of his misrule, but voted for Buhari instead for you imagined he would do better than GEJ. And in 2019, in spite of Fulani terrorism, insecurity, you still voted for Buhari. There was no option for Yorubas to vote against Buhari for his misrule between 2015-2019. Do you really know how illogical you sound? The SS man is punished for a minor infraction, while the northerner is rewarded by the SW for major infractions. All these expose that you are not really after justice but after myopic self-interest, even if it harms the federation. But yet you will come here to tell us that Igbos must not be voted for, because they will ruin the nation. This is the height of amala politics. As I wrote initially, Northerners should not feel intimidated if they want to run for presidency. Igbos who have the moral authority to demand for it, will not mind northerners running for the position, afterall SWners are also running for it, and Igbos don't consider SWners as kin spirit, based on what you have written so far. Northerners should run, and they may even get our votes, if an easterner is the VP 5 Likes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Gandollaar(f): 1:28pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
helinues:Lol preacher. It was your game prior 2015. |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Ritchiee: 1:30pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
hisexcellency34: An Osu spotted. |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 1:31pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:Blah blah blah ...if we thought so we wont support OBJ ...we dont carry evil in our mind All we ask is simple respect the zoning agreement u said no ...fine no wahala na nigeria we dey We no get una time |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by searchlight: 1:34pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
helinues:When and how does supporting an Hausa/Funali means pulling yorubas down? weda it is Kingibe, Kyari, Atiku, Kwankwaso, or El rufai so long as power remains in the north I am happy. |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 1:37pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
OfoIgbo: Have I denied this? More important is what the average Igbo demands an Igbo President do with the Presidency. That is the fear of others and not that we think no Igbo is capable of leading Nigeria progressively. You guys will not let even the most progressive Igbo lead effectively without harassing him and second-guessing everything he does as pro-Nigerian or anti-Igbo because of your natural anti-Nigeria disposition. That is the main reason no one will gamble on an Igbo presidency right now even if you deserve it in the spirit of fair play and equity. Tragic Igbo has not produced the Presidency since 1999, as one of the three main Nigerian ethnic group, but whose fault is that if you are truthful with yourself? 1 Like |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by searchlight: 1:39pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:Pls zombie is the power tussle between the igbos and Yorubas? in that thread I didn't see where an Igbo candidates was mentioned. Anyway if hating and attacking Igbo's at every given advantage cures your madness then you are free to go on. |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by selemempe: 1:41pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:chai...see delusions of grandeur. |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by helinues: 1:44pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
Gandollaar: Just as 2011 never existed in you people's calendar... Hahahahhahah |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by searchlight: 1:44pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:Zombie whenever you want to type trash make it snappy. Font elect anybody to give you power, go take it if you feel you deserve it, Tinubu will contest under ACN come 2023. You can wail all day long. Yoruba won't be president come 2023 you have been used and dumbed like sanitary bad 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Ritchiee: 1:45pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk: I would love Igbos too to rule but not in 2023 because a lot of Nigerians do not want them now for obvious reasons. Let us take Nigeria out of this sordid situation or split. Igbos are very competent but why don´t we give power to the most competent according to the history of Nigeria so as to drive development?. My twopence,though.. 1 Like
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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by searchlight: 1:46pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
harjorlarh:When you talk about 2019 election pls narrow it to SW. As for SE and SS power must remain in the north, preferably to a PDP or at least with APC. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by tsavkeghps(m): 1:47pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
Schemes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
searchlight: whatever. Do Yorubas hate Igbos or the other way round? Have you seen how your brothers are vowing to support the North just to frustrate Yoruba 2023 ambition? Can you honestly say Kwankwaso or Tambuwal will lead better than Osinbajo, Fashola or Fayemi? If you Igbos, by your own doing, have schemed yourselves out of gaining the support you need to produce the President in 2023 then why not support those who are progressive and liberal in mentality and likely to lead in ways that will impact your drives as a people seeking a level playing field? You would rather support PDP Northerners who operate in the stratosphere of 'business as usual' politics which will ensure the retention of the status quo you Igbos hate passionately. Continue cutting your nose to spite your face. Yorubas will deliver Nigeria in the end because we will not allow the North to regress us all forever even as we have supported them to show what they can do. 2 Likes |
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by searchlight: 1:52pm On Sep 03, 2019 |
candidtalk:I trust yorubas. with only their votes they can make Tinubu president 1 Like 1 Share |
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