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Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 3:39am On Sep 15, 2019 |
bears repeating: johnw47: The Holy Spirit is God |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:25pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
johnw47: Janosky: lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ if your false jw church had told you that the Holy Spirit is God you would believe it but because the Bible shows the Holy spirit is God, and that goes against your false doctrines you don't believe it and call it wacky, making God a liar. you think nothing will come of it, but truly you will be judged on every blasphemous word that has come out of your lying mouth, oh evil as can be false jw Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 12:49am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Father is King of kings and Lord of lords: 1Ti_6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords: Rev_17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. these verses clearly show that Father and Jesus is King of kings and lord of lords hence that Father and Jesus is God, as John also shows: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. blueAgent of no understanding copied and pasted others commentarys at great length, to try and show that those verses are lies. of course sewer mouth beelzebubAgent failed miserably Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 9:12pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
Barristter07:spend more time digesting post before you respond. The statement of John said All things was made through the son and there was nothing made without him. @ bolded, do you read what you write yourself? How can something be created without Christ when John clearly said apart from christ nothing made could have been made. Even Romans 11vv36 expose watch tower Take a look at it Romans 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. Romans said through him (God) are [b]ALL Things The bible never said the father created all things through himself rather through Christ. Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: It shows that Christ is God because through Christ all things were made. Romans 11vv36 is referring to the Trinity. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 9:13pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
Barristter07:the father was never called an agent of creation. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 9:19pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
Barristter07:all three persons of the Holy Trinity played distinct roles as the agent of creation, your objection is dead on arrival. Arche can be interpreted in a number of ways go back to my previous post but the most suitable interpretation is that Jesus is the beginning or the source of God's creation which means agent or the one who cause creation to be. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 9:21pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
blueAgent:I dont know why you are still writing long epistle. Jesus and God has same nature that makes him truly God. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 7:22am On Sep 18, 2019 |
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Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 7:22am On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: U use apart from when making an Exception. Christ was excluded from things Created through his agency, hence apart from him . or in other words, If u remove him , Why was he removed ? Because the Father was his own agency hence the EXCEPTION .
I know the highlighted is where you will pitch your tent, because if that verse should refer to the Father, You are in TROUBLE. What are the Facts ? Paul was reffering to the same person he was describing at verse 35 35 “Or who has given him anything that he may be repaid?” 36 For from him and through him and for him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen. Jesus was GIVEN authority , THAT clearly point put that the person above isn't Jesus, the person Paul was speaking Has never been given anything by anyone . Jesus would Even return the Kingdom to his God and Father , A pay back. Do you now accept Romans 11:36 is a reference to the Father ? Yes . ( then What was made through his agency ? Even Heb 2:10 proved the Father was an agent , What was made through his agency ? That's the real question 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 7:36am On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: There is only one single source - The Father ( 1 Cor 8:6 )
Proven again and again, Jesus is not source, its either the Father is source or Jesus . both cannot be source . and we know its the Father . We are left with " beginning of Gods CREATION " Beginning of Creation means first ( begin, starting ) person created. As God start to create he was the first or beginning AMONG Gods creation. 2 Likes |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 7:37am On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: Heb 2:10. says Through the Father What was created by his agency ? The real question 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 8:53am On Sep 18, 2019 |
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Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 2:19pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: Jesus is God by inheritance. Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. So you can see that his own godship or nature was inherited from his father, he can not be Co-equal with his father. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 4:15pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: Define source ? Seems you ran out of points hence the repetition. Again, Jesus isn't the source of creation . My question again : Heb 2:10 says the Father was an agent , for which creation ? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 5:44pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3:NL FRAUD Pharisees don't you have the nature of your father ? Does it ,by any stretch of your imagination make you your father....? John17:3, Jesus says his Father is the " ONLY TRUE God." You are NOT on the same page with Jesus. Jesus words won't reset your mumu brain because you have rejected his words. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:06pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
Barristter07:according to your interpretation of heb 2vv10 and Romans 11vv36 all things was created through the father right? 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:07pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
Janosky:Nothing to hold hence the insult Jesus is God Almighty your creator denying him makes you just like the atheist 2 Likes |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 7:17pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: How can Jesus be the Almighty and still be called Son? Is like me having a son called Mr A and I told the world that i have a Son who is Mr A, eye witnesses also confirm the fact that I am the father of Mr A. But the only ones disputing that am not the father are trinitarians who think they know me and my son better than I do. Is it not weird that Trinitarians will ignore over 100 scriptures that say God is the father of Jesus and Jesus is the son, just to promote a doctrine that has no scriptural or divine backing. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 7:25pm On Sep 18, 2019 |
solite3: Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. ** 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. *** 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. In verses 6 and 7 God calls Jesus his son and also informs us that on a certain day Jesus was BEGOTTEN. Tell me what is difficult here for trinitarians to comprehend? 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 1:28am On Sep 19, 2019 |
Barristter07: lie lie™ barrister you are twisting-changing God's word to try and show that the Father created without the Word you also have a problem with the word "through" Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. in this instance and because other verses show that Father and the word created all, it means the same as "from" all things are through the Father, all things are through Christ the word created all things: Joh 1:3 All things were made by him(the word); and without him was not any thing made that was made. ^^^ that verse also shows that the Word, who made everything that was made, cannot be made Himself Father and Jesus Christ created all things: Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: all things are from the Father, all things are from Jesus Christ: 1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. ^^^ that verse also shows that Father and Jesus Christ is the one God, the one Lord, like john 1:1 also shows Lord Jesus created the heavens and the earth: Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: God created the heaven and the earth: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. ^^^ God created the heaven and the earth, Lord Jesus created the heaven and the earth Father and the Word made man: Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness they are just some of very many bible verses showing that Father and the Word created all things the verses show that Father and the Word created everything the verses show God created everything the verses are not just showing that Father and the word created all things but they are also showing that Father and the Word is God: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. lie lie barrister, you are truly blinded and love to twist - change God's word, making God a liar you of course will pay greatly for that 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 2 Likes |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 5:37am On Sep 19, 2019 |
solite3:You have proved that you're worse than atheists. They don't pretend they believe in Jesus, unlike Solite3 Pharisees, a FRAUD Christian who rejects John17:3 ,the spoken words of Jesus Christ. John17:3, Jesus Christ "your creator" says his Father is the " ONLY TRUE God." You are NOT on the same page with Jesus. That's the bitter truth. Deal with it. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 9:05am On Sep 19, 2019 |
solite3: Yes by virtue of his making Jesus himself . do u object to the Fact ? ( More pepper to your wounds is that, while Angels were made through Jesus, they were never called Jesus sons, nah, because all things including Jesus himself came from and through the Father, they are called the Fathers sons ) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 9:07am On Sep 19, 2019 |
solite3: If Jesus is the source, why are angels and other human creations not called Jesus sons?? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 9:10am On Sep 19, 2019 |
johnw47:All things were through the Father , because he needed no agency to create Jesus who he used to made others . And Mr Johnw74 , enough of the lies and twisting , Jesus is not the source , No one is called sons of Jesus . but Jesus himself and other angelic and human creations are sons of the Father . 2 Likes |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:01am On Sep 19, 2019 |
Barristter07: lie lie™ barrister, all things were through the Father and the Word, as shown and of course you don't believe God's word: Father and Jesus Christ created all things: Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ all things are from Father and Christ: 1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. ^^^ that verse also shows that Father and Jesus Christ is the one God, the one Lord, like john 1:1 also shows Father and the Word made man: Gen_1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness Barristter07: Father didn't create Jesus, nothing was made that Jesus didn't make: Joh 1:3 All things were made by him(the word); and without him was not any thing made that was made. ^^^ that verse also shows that the Word, who made everything that was made, cannot be made Himself Barristter07: laugh, show where i have said diffrently to the bible verses i have posted, oh false accuser like your daddy: Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night Barristter07: oh so confused false jw, the scriptures above show that Father created all things through Jesus Barristter07: perhaps no one is called son's of the man(flesh) Jesus but they are called son's of God, and Father and the word is God Barristter07: Jesus is the only begotten Son, before He became flesh He is God the Word confused twister lie lie barrister 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:14am On Sep 19, 2019 |
false jw's are of course as we know false prophets Q. what is another name for A FALSE PROPHET A. A FRAUD false, phony, fraud, take your pick |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 12:43pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
johnw47: *** Romans 8:3 " For what the Law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh, " Galatians 4:4 But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law," **** Romans8:3, Galatians 4:4, "God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man," PROOF, God sent his own Son in the spiritual realm, before he was born of a woman in the likeness of men, on the earthly realm. Johnw Pharisees FRAUD man. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Auki: 5:52pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
blueAgent: 100% Correct. They used their God given brain to pass Exam only but freeze their brains and senses to the truth. God will tell them all what they did and they will be in absolute everlasting anguish. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 10:51pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
Janosky:lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ big big fraud, God sent His own Son, oh so confused one how does that show the son is not God, it shows the Son is not the Father, laugh know nothing phony Janosky/OneJ who doesn't believe the multitude of scriptures showing Jesus is God such a evil false jw, making God a liar big confused mumu fraud 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:09pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
Auki: trinity be in "absolute everlasting anguish" for saying like God's word say's that Father is God, for saying like God's word say's that the Word come Jesus is God for saying like God's word say's that the Holy Spirit is God laugh, plenty of mumu's in this place |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 11:27pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
johnw47: Romans 8:3 "God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man,".... Rev 3:2,5,12-14,21. Mumu Johnw FRAUD man, God's son in the spiritual realm in heaven was sent to earth in the likeness of sinful man". Your brain has been poluted with Trinity FRAUD. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:42pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
Janosky: laughing, confused fraud lying pharisee™ Janosky/OneJ Father God sent God the Word to become man, need the verses? 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. |
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