lordtim001:

Kakuzu is strong o. 4 or 5 hearts and medical ninjutsu. Even though it seems to be one jutsu per element(unconfirmed though), the jutsus are mad. His firestyle is easily the same size as Madara's Majestic firestyle. And his lightning flash makes chidori and raikiri look like baby jutsu. Not to mention he can harden his body and has a crazy amount of strength and speed. He is also very flexible at the same time and those hairlike stuff can manipulate movements. I believe Kishimoto just wanted to make Naruto's rasenshuriken look good. I mean, this same Kakuzu was sent to assassinate the First Hokage and even though he failed, he still managed to escape. Not to mention that he assassinated one of the Kazekages and even his own Mist comrades. This same Kakuzu easily defeated the 2 tails jinchuriki
In any case, Hidan is the one that makes the team weak. Even though he is immortal, he is stupid.

Sasori is an excellent puppet master but his pairing with Deidara is not good. Both of them are mid to long range fighters. Deidara is also weak. I believe he knows how to use normal Earth style like Kurotsuchi but he doesn't use it. His explosive style is useless against either Hidan(immortal) and Kakuzu(lightning vs earth)
To me, the only person that can defeat Kakuzu in the Akatsuki are Pain, Obito, Sasuke, Itachi and Kisame. It would even be hard for Orochimaru to defeat him

Deidara's explosive style is not useless against Hidan. Incase your forgetting, it was an explosive device that Shikamaru used against him before burying him.
And you're forgetting the fact that Sasori's attacks are always laced with deadly poison. Unless Kakuzu has the antidote ready, all Sasori needs is to land a scratch.
Also Orochimaru casually sparred against a 4-tailed Naruto. Kakuzu was done in by a Naruto in normal mode. Oro can definitely defeat him. He's a freaking Sannin for crying out loud

lordtim001:

Jogan

What's its abilities?

Jake420:
Imagine thinking madara can beat aizen LMAO.
I know madara is one of the strongest characters in naruto and has only been killed by surprised but one guy is telling me he can beat aizen lol

Aizen is suffering from god complex he believe he's perfect, supreme and above mistakes.. I compare him to light yagami(death note) and kabuto

Madara will still woop his ass sha

CapedBaldy:
just watched kimetsu no Yaiba ep 24 this has got to be one of the best episodes so far. can't believe someone said it was dry. zenitsu is destroying my ribs with laughter. I'm starting to love this show.

Zenitsu looks like a coward version of rock lee to me, physically weak but insanely strong when unconscious .. Who knows, can't wait for his character development sha

blingxx:


Aizen is suffering from god complex he believe he's perfect, supreme and above mistakes.. I compare him to light yagami(death note) and kabuto

Madara will still woop his ass sha

I wonder how stupid someone would have to be to believe that aizen would beat madara?

blingxx:



Zenitsu looks like a coward version of rock lee to me, physically weak but insanely strong when unconscious .. Who knows, can't wait for his character development sha

Rock Lee doesn't really have to be unconscious to be insanely strong. Man can open the eight chakra gates at will. Zenitsu is nothing like him or any character I've seen so far

Upcoming...

blingxx:


Aizen is suffering from god complex he believe he's perfect, supreme and above mistakes.. I compare him to light yagami(death note) and kabuto

Madara will still woop his ass sha

lol you know if ichigo didn't stop him he wouldve continued evolving. His ability was evolution his sword bankai is stronger than Izanami genjutsu sef, his kidou 90 can trap madara in a black dimension, also will jutsu really work on reapers?

Arthurity1:

I wonder how stupid someone would have to be to believe that aizen would beat madara?

Any points on how madara would beat aizen?
I think his best chance is limbo because would physical attacks such as tailed beast bombs even work on soul reapers?
Lol you guys seem to forget that the hyogoku made aizen constantly evolve and if final getsuga didn't stop him in time (which it didn't) he would've kept surpassing thank God kisuke found a way to hold him down.
His sword illusions are stronger than kotoamatsumaki sef he can make an illusion last for eternity as long as you peeped it

Jake420:

Any points on how madara would beat aizen?
I think his best chance is limbo because would physical attacks such as tailed beast bombs even work on soul reapers?
Lol you guys seem to forget that the hyogoku made aizen constantly evolve and if final getsuga didn't stop him in time (which it didn't) he would've kept surpassing thank God kisuke found a way to hold him down.
His sword illusions are stronger than kotoamatsumaki sef he can make an illusion last for eternity as long as you peeped it

First of, the sharingan sees through all illusions so how would aizen's bankai work? And don't be ignorant, chakra attacks would work on soul reapers because chakra like reiatsu is spiritual energy and would work.

Arthurity1:

First of, the sharingan sees through all illusions so how would aizen's bankai work? And don't be ignorant, chakra attacks would work on soul reapers because chakra like reiatsu is spiritual energy and would work.

Jutsu is manifestation of chakra energy into physical attacks no longer spiritual when in jutsu form like how is no longer magma but lava when it leaves the ground.The genjutsu can see all illusions made by chakra i don't think it will have any affect on a bankai.

Chakra is controlled and released from the cranial nerves on the body.
Reitsu has nothing to do with the physical.
Chakra is spiritual energy being manifested into the physical through will to use jutsus basic stuff don't be ignorant

and genjutsu dosent work on aizen because the hokyoku has its own mind. and the same goes for his zanpakto. and we saw that TB could wake its host up from a genjutsu

, Aizens shikai doesn't need you to make eye contact Unlike genjutsu so he has an upper hand here lol .

Jinchuriki are resistant to Genjutsu because the Bijuu can disrupt the Chakra Flow in the Jinchuriki's head to stop the Genjutsu. Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu doesn't work like that if there's no chakra flow the chances of genjutsu working on reiatsu is 0 however ks has never been based on one's spiritual energy and will even work on humans with no spiritual energy whatsoever.

Kyoka suigetsu even worked on a god who could see the future and had no blind spots lmao madara has been killed from behind twice. Is this even a battle?

The Sharingan see's through genjutsus by noticing flaws, Aizen's is perfect hypnosis, there aren't any flaws And even if it could see through them, that wouldn't make the illusions stop, Madara would still see, hear, smell, taste, and touch whatever Aizen wanted him to.
It's over

Did i also forget to mention with the hyogoku he's immortal?
Look I'm a madara fanboy but i can't lie i tell people madara could beat kaguya and present naruto and sasuke but i can't even lie with sosuke

Aizen fought a god already, and an Almighty one at that (Juha Ywach), who, while he swatted Aizen aside like a fly, still didn't know how to kill him, and he was omniscient. Just putting that out there. An omniscient god with the power to change the future so that anythig he could ever want to happen; happened, failed to kill Aizen…No dey insult oga nothing to talk again sef even now wetin you wan use deny am

How Sarada was born ✅

An argument would be valid if there are stuffs to compare. Let's assume these all are the same

Nen
Chi
Chakra
Reiatsu

All forms of spiritual energy using the lifeforce of the user and a drawdown of straining the user if used for so long.


Illusion Skills
Sharingan causes a strain on the user though Madara fortified against this by using Hashirama cells
Kyouka Suigetsu well, once activated can be kept going for eternity and obviously without strain on Aizen. Remember "When have I not been using it?"

Genjutsu has always been broken by strong fighters
Kyouka Suigetsu, naa. Even the strong captains banked their win on ichigo NOT seeing the release as they know once seen, you're done

Sneak attacks?
Madara was backstabbed with a sneak attack by Kaguya and Aizen by Urahara. Meaning though powerful, can still have a deterrent in their bodies and not know.

Physical Attacks
They both have attacks on a massive scale but I think Madara wins this one.

Mastermind and Planning
Both massive manipulators and users of friends and foes.

Overall, I think the one that would win the fight is the one that can win BEFORE the fight and I think it goes to Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu.

Kaycee7:
Deidara's explosive style is not useless against Hidan. Incase your forgetting, it was an explosive device that Shikamaru used against him before burying him.
And you're forgetting the fact that Sasori's attacks are always laced with deadly poison. Unless Kakuzu has the antidote ready, all Sasori needs is to land a scratch.
Also Orochimaru casually sparred against a 4-tailed Naruto. Kakuzu was done in by a Naruto in normal mode. Oro can definitely defeat him. He's a freaking Sannin for crying out loud

Kakuzu was not that Naruto's mate. The plot would not be good if Team Yamato lost na. Can you explain to me how Naruto beat Neji and Rock Lee that were far better than him? Did you watch "The Last: Naruto the movie"? The same Toneri that split the moon in two and Naruto and Hinata and the rest still couldn't fully defeat him and they had to compromise. This same guy was sealed for 10000 years by Momoshiki Otsutsuki. And this same Momoshiki that parried with the moon-splitter was defeated with just a Rasengan from Boruto. Does it make any sense?

Kakuzu can harden his skin, remember. Kunai and sharp objects can't penetrate. Except fast, lightning based attacks like Chidori, Raikiri. As for Hidan and Deidara, both of them are weak to me and poorly matched. Deidara might be better but even if he blows Hidan up, his head is still there. He is still technically alive. Shikamaru had to set up the trap in advance for it to work. Even if he did, Kakuzu can create water clones that can retrieve the head and stitch it to the rest of the body. It happened several times, even in the scene against Asuma. So, it's nothing new

Orochimaru is a guy I really respect. But his Hebi style or whatever is useless against someone like Hidan. Which skin will he bite? Even when he gained his ninjutsu back during the Fourth Great Ninja war, he was still not using elemental jutsu. So much for the fact that he spent his life mastering jutsu. The only thing that can help him is summoning Manda or using the Reanimation jutsu

Nova15:


What's its abilities?

Not much has been discovered but from the manga, it can boost one's physical strength and ability to use fuinjutsu (sealing jutsu, which encompasses weapon summoning, animal summoning and various transportation jutsus). We will get to know more later

teemy:
An argument would be valid if there are stuffs to compare. Let's assume these all are the same

Nen
Chi
Chakra
Reiatsu

All forms of spiritual energy using the lifeforce of the user and a drawdown of straining the user if used for so long.


Illusion Skills
Sharingan causes a strain on the user though Madara fortified against this by using Hashirama cells
Kyouka Suigetsu well, once activated can be kept going for eternity and obviously without strain on Aizen. Remember "When have I not been using it?"

Genjutsu has always been broken by strong fighters
Kyouka Suigetsu, naa. Even the strong captains banked their win on ichigo NOT seeing the release as they know once seen, you're done

Sneak attacks?
Madara was backstabbed with a sneak attack by Kaguya and Aizen by Urahara. Meaning though powerful, can still have a deterrent in their bodies and not know.

Physical Attacks
They both have attacks on a massive scale but I think Madara wins this one.

Mastermind and Planning
Both massive manipulators and users of friends and foes.

Overall, I think the one that would win the fight is the one that can win BEFORE the fight and I think it goes to Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu.

are we comparing base madara to base aizen because if it is like that then hands down base madara will defeat aizen,
illusions are countered by sharingan,

physical battle madara is better,

Hados / jutsu almost equal can't select a winner

And notice madara have the rinnegan which translates to control over gravity Deva path, control over machines ashura path, control over energy preta path, control over souls, animal control over summons, binge. Naraka king of hell let's not forget the outer path, limbo border jail, tengai Sendai,

Well it's a close battle,

teemy:
An argument would be valid if there are stuffs to compare. Let's assume these all are the same

Nen
Chi
Chakra
Reiatsu

All forms of spiritual energy using the lifeforce of the user and a drawdown of straining the user if used for so long.


Illusion Skills
Sharingan causes a strain on the user though Madara fortified against this by using Hashirama cells
Kyouka Suigetsu well, once activated can be kept going for eternity and obviously without strain on Aizen. Remember "When have I not been using it?"

Genjutsu has always been broken by strong fighters
Kyouka Suigetsu, naa. Even the strong captains banked their win on ichigo NOT seeing the release as they know once seen, you're done

Sneak attacks?
Madara was backstabbed with a sneak attack by Kaguya and Aizen by Urahara. Meaning though powerful, can still have a deterrent in their bodies and not know.

Physical Attacks
They both have attacks on a massive scale but I think Madara wins this one.

Mastermind and Planning
Both massive manipulators and users of friends and foes.

Overall, I think the one that would win the fight is the one that can win BEFORE the fight and I think it goes to Aizen's Kyouka Suigetsu.

You forgot the fact that madara was a warlord, a war tactician who fought countless battles alongside hashirama during the war
What tf is aizen without the ogyoku(forgot the spelling) .. To me aizen is an asslicker a guys who wins every battle by intimidating his opponent, making them feel unworthy and loss focus
Aizen without the oogyoku won't be able to beat itachi without prep time not to mention madara


Do you remember how aizen starting ranting and running mouth when ichigo overpowered him. It's obvious the guy is suffering from a mental illness it's called "god complex" he couldn't handle failure at that moment, madara would have chill and think instead of ranting

You are trying to compare a warlord to an asslicker

Jake420:
and genjutsu dosent work on aizen because the hokyoku has its own mind. and the same goes for his zanpakto. and we saw that TB could wake its host up from a genjutsu

You mean the same hokyoku that betrayed it's master?

Jake420:
and genjutsu dosent work on aizen because the hokyoku has its own mind. and the same goes for his zanpakto. and we saw that TB could wake its host up from a genjutsu

Neither would kyoka suigetsu work on madara so illusions are out of the questions in this fight. This would be a battle of their own prowess

Arthurity1:

Neither would kyoka suigetsu work on madara so illusions are out of the questions in this fight. This would be a battle of their own prowess

The kyoka would work on madara lol

Arthurity1:

Neither would kyoka suigetsu work on madara so illusions are out of the questions in this fight. This would be a battle of their own prowess

Look even Yhwach couldn't think of a way to kill aizen an all knowing being who can reality warp and change the future couldn't find a way to kill aizen madara has been killed twice how do you think madara can kill aizen?
Aizen is obviously smarter as him tricking the entire soul society and underworld is greater than being the mastermind of akatsuki.
Madara's only point is physical strength lol which aizen or most reapers don't use because of reliance on their sword but kenpachi is physically stronger than madara and even he can't beat aizen

blingxx:



You mean the same hokyoku that betrayed it's master?

Even without hyogoku remember even Yhwach couldn't kill him?
An omniscient being who can change the future while madara has been killed from behind twice, aizen is unkillable, the kyoka suigetsu is far superior to genjutsu so would work on madara and aizen just like everyone else will stab him from behind

mrMeen:
are we comparing base madara to base aizen because if it is like that then hands down base madara will defeat aizen,
illusions are countered by sharingan,

physical battle madara is better,

Hados / jutsu almost equal can't select a winner

And notice madara have the rinnegan which translates to control over gravity Deva path, control over machines ashura path, control over energy preta path, control over souls, animal control over summons, binge. Naraka king of hell let's not forget the outer path, limbo border jail, tengai Sendai,

Well it's a close battle,

Lol rinnengan can bring people back to life and control dead bodies not their soul entirely, limbo is his only chance of attacking a soul reaper as it's also not materialistic and sharingan can cancels genjutsus bijuus help jinchuriki out of genjutsus by blocking their chakra flow, genjutsu needs chakra to work. Aizen doesn't have chakra but kyoka doesn't need any reitsu to work, has a mind of its own, doesn't need eye contact with the user, has no strain on the user either I've already explained this up there kyoka suigetsu is far superior than any genjutsu once you see his sword it's over.