MrBrownJay1:


KOVALAINEN NEVER LED THE SPAIN GP OF 2008
Ferrari 1-2 led that race from beginning to the end. Bare a few laps due to pitting, just because someone doesn't pit does NOT make them officially faster than the leaders, who just pitted.

I am just proving to you that you write rubbish nonsense..MC Laren was the 2nd best team out there thus of course they will win races and make few podium finishes.. the only reason Kovalainen ever won a race was due to faster car of Ferrari's blown engine.... whether he had podiun finishes with Mc Laren that year, OR NOT, it doesnt change the fact that the Ferraris during that year were faster than Mc Laren, duh!!!

But hey, if you think that McLaren were faster, yet a 3rd place on the grid Massa could jump BOTH McLaren by the 1st corner, then you sir is indeed royally clueless about F1.

Whatever rubbish you are bringing, while I am showing you that you are clueless, is all on you.

What was his position before the crash? Tentatively he was in the lead till the crash happened and in the event of another safety car incident he could easily pit and retain his lead. It would still be on record that he led a lap in the race

Kovalainen's mediocrity as a driver was what cemented the Mercedes as the second best team on the constructor's title. This is what I will keep driving into your thick skull.

Kovalainen could have finished as low as 8th if not for Vettel's 4 straight retirements to start the F1 season. That is how useless he was

Are you seriously asking how a 3rd place driver jumps two guys at the start? So according to this buffoon you have to have the outright fastest car to be able to jump a car ahead of you at the starting grid when they are so many other factors that come into play. You need serious deliverance.

Kovalainen's ineptitude as an F1 driver is what led to Ferrari winning the Constructor's title. Not because the McLaren was actually the second fastest

A40:

What was his position before the crash? Tentatively he was in the lead till the crash happened and in the event of another safety car incident he could easily pit and retain his lead. It would still be on record that he led a lap in the race

Kovalainen's mediocrity as a driver was what cemented the Mercedes as the second best team on the constructor's title. This is what I will keep driving into your thick skull.

Kovalainen could have finished as low as 8th if not for Vettel's 4 straight retirements to start the F1 season. That is how useless he was

Are you seriously asking how a 3rd place driver jumps two guys at the start? So according to this buffoon you have to have the outright fastest car to be able to jump a car ahead of you at the starting grid when they are so many other factors that come into play. You need serious deliverance.

Kovalainen's ineptitude as an F1 driver is what led to Ferrari winning the Constructor's title. Not because the McLaren was actually the second fastest

Just because Kovalainen led for a few laps, thanks to put stop DOES NOT make McLaren faster than Ferrari's...which is the main issue here.

As for jumping 2 Mc Laren from the get go and STAYING ahead for the whole race. ... I am safe to say that the Ferraris was faster. Yes!

MrBrownJay1:


Just because Kovalainen led for a few laps, thanks to put stop DOES NOT make McLaren faster than Ferrari's...which is the main issue here.

As for jumping 2 Mc Laren from the get go and STAYING ahead for the whole race. ... I am safe to say that the Ferraris was faster. Yes!

I am saying we will never know how good that McLaren truly was because the second driver was absolute rubbish.

If you had any type of analytical nous. You would ask yourself why the driver in the second best car (like you erroneously claim) finished as low as 7th!!! Knowing fully well that the same team won the Constructor's title with its two drivers just one point behind the winner the previous year

Anybody can get jumped at the start of a race. Proves absolutely nothing

A40:
I am saying we will never know how good that McLaren truly was because the second driver was absolute rubbish.

If you had any type of analytical nous. You would ask yourself why the driver in the second best car (like you erroneously claim) finished as low as 7th!!! Knowing fully well that the same team won the Constructor's title with its two drivers just one point behind the winner the previous year

Anybody can get jumped at the start of a race. Proves absolutely nothing

It DOES NOT MATTER, dude!!!! Ham was already a top driver then, and if even he couldn't beat the Ferraris then it is a clear indication that they were faster.... and that nobody could beat them.

Anybody can jump the 2 "supposed" fastest cars and lead the whole race, really?!

budaatum:

Me! I hope and wish he's fired. He makes the Prancing Horse look like a donkey!

haha! But why? It's not like he is total rubb.ish. Won the title 4 times.

FBS:

haha! But why? It's not like he is total rubb.ish. Won the title 4 times.

Na won, I wan chop, or win win win! Schuey in his hey day would made that horse prance. The number of times Vet has pranged it into the wall is telling. I mean, what the fuq is this slow motion Senna!?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5HG14_1Sk

MrBrownJay1:


It's DOES NOT MATTER, dude!!!! Ham was already a top driver then, and if even he couldn't beat the Ferraris then it is a clear indication that they were faster.... and that nobody could beat them.

Anybody can jump the 2 "supposed" fastest cars and lead the whole race, really?!

Yes. Because bad starts do happen in F1. And you can maintain leads at a notoriously tough place to overtake like Hungaroring

Give it a rest!! With the way you're chatting one would think Massa was jumping the McLaren's every week.

Hamilton had 7 poles
Massa had 6 poles

The other drivers on both cars had 2 and 1 pole each.

The Ferrari were not unbeatable you Muppet! The McLaren just had a rubbish second driver.

McLaren would have won both the driver's and constructor's title in 2007 but for in house fighting and squabbling. They had the fastest package in 07 and 08

A40:

Yes. Because bad starts do happen in F1. And you can maintain leads at a notoriously tough place to overtake like Hungaroring

Give it a rest!! With the way you're chatting one would think Massa was jumping the McLaren's every week.

Hamilton had 7 poles
Massa had 6 poles

The other drivers on both cars had 2 and 1 pole each.

The Ferrari were not unbeatable you Muppet! The McLaren just had a rubbish second driver.

McLaren would have won both the driver's and constructor's title in 2007 but for in house fighting and squabbling. They had the fastest package in 07 and 08

So you want us all to believe that Hamilton drove the fastest car but was beaten by Ferraris 8times against the 5times that he won?!?

I Admire your open hypocrisy...suddenly NOW that it fits your selfish agenda, topping qualifying means that a car is faster yet when I told you that Versstappen had a faster car because he topped qualifying this weekend, your deluded hypocrite response was:

A40: Anyone who has a clue knows there is difference between race pace and qualifying

So, what you are saying is that, when Versstappen does it, he does NOT have the faster car because there is a difference between race pace and qualifying... but when Ham does it, that's because he has the faster car....bwaaaaaah what a deluded hypocrite you are!!!!

Or better yet.... when Bottas out qualify Ham on the exact same car, and i say he is a good driver, then suddenly, you go to HYPOCRISY LEVEL 2, and write....

A40:
Any clown can out qualify their teammates. That is only half the battle

But yet when Vettel out qualify his teammate, then suddenly, you go to ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY and use that exact same Information to claim that this is why Vettel is a better driver than Leclerc.

Here is a clue: get your BULLSHIIT right before you come trying to feed us your deluded rubbish!!!

MrBrownJay1:


So you want us all to believe that Hamilton drove the fastest car but was beaten by Ferraris 8times against the 5times that he won?!?

I Admire your open hypocrisy...suddenly NOW that it fits your selfish agenda, topping qualifying means that a car is faster yet when I told you that Versstappen had a faster car because he topped qualifying this weekend, your deluded hypocrite response was:

You're so phuckin dense it defies all logic. Why the fuq is this fool comparing one off incidents to the course of an entire season. Even when I explicitly also stated that Hungaroring is a track that is not reliant purely on speed.

MrBrownJay1:

So, what you are saying is that, when Versstappen does it, he does NOT have the faster car because there is a difference between race pace and qualifying... but when Ham does it, that's because he has the faster car....bwaaaaaah what a deluded hypocrite you are!!!!

The question is how many times has Verstappen done it? Why do you consistently use ret@rded analogies everytime?

Hamilton and McLaren were able to get on pole 8 times.

How does a much faster Ferrari get beaten for pole that many times over the course of a season?

There is nothing from their pole count and race wins to suggest Ferrari was faster. All an intelligent mind can glean from this is that one team had a vastly inferior second driver while the other had a competent one

MrBrownJay1:

Or better yet.... when Bottas out qualify Ham on the exact same car, and i say he is a good driver, then suddenly, you go to HYPOCRISY LEVEL 2, and write....

You're a complete fool. Since they both became teammates what's their H2H pole count? How often does Bottas qualify ahead of Ham? What's their final position H2H?

I cringe at your stupidity

MrBrownJay1:

But yet when Vettel out qualify his teammate, then suddenly, you go to ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY and use that exact same Information to claim that this is why Vettel is a better driver than Leclerc.

Here is a clue: get your BULLSHIIT right before you come trying to feed us your deluded rubbish!!!

STFU you village Eediot. What has Leclerc done in F1 to suggest he is better and can shine the shoes of Vettel?

Who plays F1 official game here. I don't see Nigerians here

Low rake or High Rake?

A40 what have u got to say about ur lord Vettel today.

kokaneprodigy:
A40 what have u got to say about ur lord Vettel today.

Why is this Hamilton worshipper in my mentions? He was sacrificed by his team with their foolish strategy of pitting him early. You could see that unless you're blind.

With two more laps the Mercs would pass Leclerc despite Vettel playing defense for him. That's how much their strategy sucked

Leclerc was faster all weekend, nothing anyone could do....unless the race was 1 or 2 laps longer.

Btw: thats how the Vet must have felt when he was asked to let Leclerc through...

[img]https://media1./images/00faeb2889ddf205a2dcff9bf95e3ba2/tenor.gif[/img]

Tweet below was 2 days ago. A day later Antoine was dead.

MrBrownJay1:
Leclerc was faster all weekend, nothing anyone could do....unless the race was 1 or 2 laps longer.

2 more laps was clearly not enough. A week latter and Leclerc is still ahead.

Can we sack Vettel please!

budaatum:

2 more laps was clearly not enough. A week latter and Leclerc is still ahead.

Can we sack Vettel please!

don’t let A40 See this L.

So FIA bottled it. No fines and penalties for clearly breaking the rules? Were they scared of the "Tifosi"?

Now that the media and FIA have gotten their wish (A win for Lerlec and a win for Ferrari at Monza) can we now move on, please?

Singapore next.

FBS:
So FIA bottled it. No fines and penalties for clearly breaking the rules? Were they scared of the "Tifosi"?

Now that the media and FIA have gotten their wish (A win for Lerlec and a win for Ferrari at Monza) can we now move on, please?

Singapore next.

you see the hypocrisy, If it was Ham you would have seen that A40 ajakaja40 bleating all over this thread.

kokaneprodigy:
you see the hypocrisy, If it was Ham you would have seen that A40 ajakaja40 bleating all over this thread.

Shut up your smelling mouth and keep my handle out of your leprous fingers you unrepentant sodomite

A40:
Shut up your smelling mouth and keep my handle out of your leprous fingers you unrepentant sodomite

unrepentant hypocrite.

FBS:
So FIA bottled it. No fines and penalties for clearly breaking the rules? Were they scared of the "Tifosi"?

Now that the media and FIA have gotten their wish (A win for Lerlec and a win for Ferrari at Monza) can we now move on, please?

Singapore next.

Penalties? What penalty did Gasly suffer the previous race for similar offense?

In Austria what penalty did Verstappen get? The race director used his discretion and allowed the drivers race. Not everyone would be like those Canadian GP stewards that will gift wrap Hamilton a win

A40:
Penalties? What penalty did Gasly suffer the previous race for similar offense?

In Austria what penalty did Verstappen get? The race director used his discretion and allowed the drivers race. Not everyone would be like those Canadian GP stewards that will gift wrap Hamilton a win

FYI
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/49629863

FBS:

FYI
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/49629863

Jolyon Palmer said it. It must be true!

FBS:

FYI
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/49629863

Jolyon Palmer and BBC (Andrew Robson) are well known unrepentant Hamilton fanboys. Can't get jiggy with that article bro

budaatum:

Jolyon Palmer said it. It must be true!

Laughable that when it happened to Leclerc this same Jolyon Palmer didn't say anything then but is referring to the same incident now. He should let it rest, Hamilton has won the title already so why all this long story

LOOOOOOL Is there any point in Ferrari having a Number 2 driver this season? They might as well just name both cars Vettel 1 and Vettel 2. I felt so much pity for the poor Lad LeClerc out there today.

chic2pimp:
LOOOOOOL Is there any point in Ferrari having a Number 2 driver this season? They might as well just name both cars Vettel 1 and Vettel 2. I felt so much pity for the poor Lad LeClerc out there today.

Why feel pity for LeClerc? Did you want them to finish on top of each other?

budaatum:

Why feel pity for LeClerc? Did you want them to finish on top of each other?

Ferrari clearly gifted Vettel the win in a race He had no business winning. The poor sod that is LeClerc could not even hide His frustration over the team radio and I can hand on heart say I would have done the same thing.

chic2pimp:


Ferrari clearly gifted Vettel the win in a race He had no business winning. The poor sod that is LeClerc could not even hide His frustration over the team radio and I can hand on heart say I would have done the same thing.

You can do the same all you want. Resign even if you're that pissed. You must have not heard of the roll of the dice of the motor racing gods.

I wonder how you'd feel if you were Massa or Irvine, or Barichello or Berger, and Coulthard, Webber, Hill, to name a few number 2s, which LeClerc is currently nowhere near.

And even as a gift. I hope even you would give it to motivate a person you're paying £50m a year

budaatum:

You can do the same all you want. Resign even if you're that pissed. You must have not heard of the roll of the dice of the motor racing gods.

I wonder how you'd feel if you were Massa or Irvine, or Barichello or Berger, and Coulthard, Webber, Hill, to name a few number 2s, which LeClerc is currently nowhere near.

And even as a gift. I hope even you would give it to motivate a person you're paying £50m a year

What a load of poppycocks!. There was no "Roll of the dice" involved. All we saw out there was pre planned and well executed and for that I give kudos to the Ferrari team. However don't try and pull the wool over our eyes by trying to explain the obvious when It was plain and clear for all to see.

Tbh I could give 2 flying f!@$s about those aforementioned drivers as it happened in the past. I'm dealing with "Now" and the present.


Nothing wrong in favouring your Numero uno driver just dont trying being clever by a half by trying to explain away gibberish. Be proud and stand by your decisions.