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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Nobody: 1:54pm On Oct 01, 2019
SO BECAUSE OPPURTUNITY HAS TAKEN YOU TO CANADA NOW WHAT WE HAVE AT HOME IS GARBAGE ABI YOU CAN BE ANYTHING BUT DONT BE UNGRATEFUL. DO NOT BITE THE FINGER THAT ONCE FED YOU

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by ZZ22: 2:00pm On Oct 01, 2019
midnighter:


Yes you are right, I am only making the point that you should compare the same pieces of data and not make false comparisons
False comparison? I don't even know where you are driving but let me tell you, you can't defend Nigeria without looking stupid(I'm not saying you are stupid)
How much is Nigeria's budget for education and how is that of Canada?
How much is Nigeria's cost of governance and how much is that of Canada? do the comparison and see the kind of country you are trying to defend. A country still operating military constitution while they deceive themselves with democracy

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by ZZ22: 2:00pm On Oct 01, 2019
midnighter:


Yes you are right, I am only making the point that you should compare the same pieces of data and not make false comparisons
False comparison? I don't even know where you are driving but let me tell you, you can't defend Nigeria without looking stupid(I'm not saying you are stupid)
How much is Nigeria's budget for education and how much is that of Canada?
How much is Nigeria's cost of governance and how much is that of Canada? do the comparison and see the kind of country you are trying to defend. A country still operating military constitution while they deceive themselves with democracy
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by midnighter(f): 2:06pm On Oct 01, 2019
ZZ22:
False comparison? I don't even know where you are driving but let me tell you, you can't defend Nigeria without looking stupid(I'm not saying you are stupid)
How much is Nigeria's budget for education and how is that of Canada?
How much is Nigeria's cost of governance and how much is that of Canada? do the comparison and see the kind of country you are trying to defend. A country still operating military constitution while they deceive themselves with democracy

I already said I'm not defending it, yes if you compare things relative to those factors you have in mind, you will get to the truth
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by GavelSlam: 2:14pm On Oct 01, 2019
pansophist:


So how can you explain other countries that have free tuition for their citizens and international students with better quality educational system than Canada (eg Finland, Germany and Norway) ?

Regardless if Nigerians decide to pay one millions naira per annum, the system is rotten. If Nigeria decides, it can provide this high quality level for its citizen for free.

It is due to per capita income.

Per capita for Norway - 62,000 dollars.

Per capita income Nigeria - 5,887 dollars.


Per capita income (PCI) or average incomemeasures the average income earned per person in a given area (city, region, country, etc.) in a specified year. It is calculated by dividing the area's total income by its total population.


Please, don't say anything slick.

Just digest these figures then ask critical questions.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Nobody: 2:21pm On Oct 01, 2019
LOL. You said "ok" initially. Why edit your post and re-mention me to argue about what you're clueless about?

midnighter:


Modified: that your school doesn't do it doesn't mean other places don't do it, so I don't get your point.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by themaestro08(m): 2:21pm On Oct 01, 2019
AgreatMan:
Actually, this is not a fair comparison.

International students pay an average of 3million naira in Canada per year but Nigerian schools charge an average of say 100k. (Rough estimates)

It's called getting exactly what you pay for. Good class rooms, but it's no big deal.
public universities are fee in Germany. While in France its heavily subsidized. Let's agree that Nigeria and other African shitholes have massively failed their citizens.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 2:28pm On Oct 01, 2019
gunvi:



Which hardship are u talking about in Alberta.that people are begging for food or what?? dat after d crash of oil , politicians are embezzling citizens money and tax.tell me now....Bros, nja is nose-diving take it or leave it
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Yes. People begged for food via food banks.
And where in my post did you see me praise Buhari or Nigeria. Alot of you kids lack comprehensive skills.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by midnighter(f): 2:32pm On Oct 01, 2019
mormoney85:


what of airports is it only the locals that use it? or r u trying to tell me that foreigners don't use our airports too?

I don't get you
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Fhemmmy: 2:32pm On Oct 01, 2019
nuelyoyo:
I am not talking about how Nigeria would have been if we don't have a poor mentality, am talking about what it is now, the reality on ground.
If the jobs are available for Nigerian students to do and go to school, you think they wouldn't do it? Or should we talk about Nigeria, that has a very stressful educational system that even combining it with work is not easy, as you may either loose the job in the long run, or your education suffers severely (reference to full time undergraduate programs)

[b]Lets start with what you have up there, it is a wrong assumptions to think that education in Nigeria is more stressful that education system in Canada or the western world, let's not get it twisted, it is hard to be a student in Canada than you think, as a student in higher institution, i will expect you to start learning about time management and if you are not able to add working with your studies, how would you learn time management? Besides, in a nation where schools are out for months due to strike, i find it hard to believe that a student can't add work with schooling, now tell me if students can have time partying and flexing.
Please correct me if i am wrong, how do a student find time for cultism but can't find time to work, and by the way there are few jobs in Nigeria that can help a student fund his or her education
Nigeria is a place where ladies do their hair on a weekly basis, so what stop a lady from learning how to do hair and get paid doing for her friends on weekends or as time permits
What stops a gentleman learning how to cut hair and do such for his friends when he is free and use the money to take care of his education.
This is one of the reasons why i blame the parents, paying for them all the way doesn't denote love but sometimes denote destroying the creativity of that child[/b]

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 2:38pm On Oct 01, 2019
bizhop01:

Point of correction the 3 million you are talking about is for international students not for canadians.
Let me reply on his behalf. Local students pay about $6K per year. That is 1.5million naira. Foreign students pay 3x of that amount. For a four or 5 years course, that is still alot of money.
You pay for what you get. You can't compare a quality brand to dollarstore brand.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 2:41pm On Oct 01, 2019
abelwealth:
oga stop lieing Alberta is d heart of canada..no deceive anybody..come bak if e no favour u
Sorry. I don't live in Alberta anymore. Why do you think I am lieing? I worked in the Alberta oil industry during the boom era.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 2:43pm On Oct 01, 2019
Hadampson:



Bossman, you are sighted grin cheesy
grin grin
Our honourable
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by akaahs(m): 2:44pm On Oct 01, 2019
HappyCanadian:
Hey Guys,

So I had an appointment which made me come to school early today, after that I headed to my class, as I walked in tears dropped my eyes, the memories of how crazy my class was during my undergraduate in Naija just came to my mind.

Take a look at a class and washroom and see the difference in the garbage we have back home. A school with every amenities u could ever think of,, name it . But in 9ja all we do is to glorify politicians that are illiterate, incompetent, corrupt and clueless, imagine the kind of president we have in this 21st century coupled with the cabals, how do we move forward?

Let me not talk of TRIBALISM AND ETHNIC BIGOTRY sef.. Well I won't say much, I am happy I left and I am cool but winter will soon come shocked I will only think of Naija if I wanna come to see my Mum and siblings.

We need to do better in that country. Imagine a country with educated elites and see who is ruling us. And worst of it is that many Nigerian youths focus on irrelevant things probably scared of being picked up if they talk. If our government was responsible and accountable we would have had a better place.

Most times the weird and barbaric news I read here its saddening. It wasn't as bad as this when GEJ was in power but we won't accept the truth.

Say whatever u want to say but it doesn't concern me until I decide to come home briefly, I am only speaking for the good of all. angry

May God help Us.. Peace!
Op please don't come back so that u people serve as a ladder for us to clamb
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by midnighter(f): 2:45pm On Oct 01, 2019
theButterfly:
LOL. You said "ok" initially. Why edit your post and re-mention me to argue about what you're clueless about?


I didn't really care about, it but your tone irritated me

If you like you can go ahead and believe that you're the only person who has ever observed how public toilets are maintained in another country undecided

You must be such a great addition to your department, with such culture, wisdom and intelligence as the one you're displaying here....!
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by daclint(m): 3:00pm On Oct 01, 2019
Tolexander:
You sha wan take style tell us sey you don japa!

Congrats


grin grin grin grin u wise pass solomon
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 3:07pm On Oct 01, 2019
sugarboy212:
Beat123, you mean people now smoke paracetamol? OMG.


She is probably a junkie herself. Did you see how she rights. grin

dizzzzy14:

You are sick in the brain, Nigerians is a mess, and people like u are d cause. Pdp apc etc, they are all theives .
Another junkie nitwit spotted. I don't usually dignify idiots with a response, but I sometimes just wonder from what gutter did you slimy creatures crawl out from. Chai. Indeed, many are mad but few are roaming.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 3:16pm On Oct 01, 2019
Fhemmmy:


Give me a reason why a student in Nigeria can’t work and go to school at same time or even be creative and do something to fetch extra coins in the side, but they will rather flex or join a cult.
Most of our problems are self made and mind you the % of parents that pays the fees for their kids are extremely low because as long as you a permanent residence or a citizen, education is free until you get to high institutions which a good and a reliable kid will work and school or go for a student loan of qualified
Nigeria has all it takes to be better than even Nigeria but our ponmo mentality won’t let us
Some actually do it but not much. I had some classmate that worked summer jobs while we studied at OAU. They are doing very well now. Some being director/managers in multinationals home and abroad. My wife worked summer jobs despite studying one of the most difficult course at OAU.

The ponmo mentality is real as you can read some of the comments on this thread grin

I usually avoid front page threads on nairaland as it brings out all the mad boys and girls out on nairaland. If I had known this will hit front-page, I would have just read op's post and waka pass.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Fhemmmy: 3:24pm On Oct 01, 2019
nuelyoyo:

As regards to student loans, many students take up students loans in advanced countries because there is a guarantee that they would get a job after graduation, they mostly pay off the debt few years after working. You can't even talk of student loan here in Nigeria and you know why.


Again, i totally disagree, if you give loans to student in Nigeria, no matter what kinda job that student got after graduation, he or she will do almost anything o avoid payment and that is because we are not credit worthy {same reasons why someone billionaires names appears yearly in the paper for owing the banks and not wanting to pay back, that is part of what we need to learn and remember that NO ONE OWE US.
By the way, you will be surprised to know that lots of students in the western world are done with schooling and can't find a job, some have had to take up low paying job just to move on, but Nigerian students will wanna wait till they find a job in their field and guess what, no one want to hire new grad in most cases because of lack of experience.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Fhemmmy: 3:26pm On Oct 01, 2019
nairalandposter:

Those things are present in Nigeria, likewise there are environments where they aren't always.

Show me the areas where they are and i will show you an area that isn't dominated by poor students that really need those facilities.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Fhemmmy: 3:28pm On Oct 01, 2019
salford1:

Some actually do it but not much. I had some classmate that worked summer jobs while we studied at OAU. They are doing very well now. Some being director/managers in multinationals home and abroad. My wife worked summer jobs despite studying one of the most difficult course at OAU.

The ponmo mentality is real as you can read some of the comments on this thread grin

I usually avoid front page threads on nairaland as it brings out all the mad boys and girls out on nairaland. If I had known this will hit front-page, I would have just read op's post and waka pass.

You are very right and it is sad and painful to know that these are the future of Nigeria while this made me to see the reasons why we keep going in circle and why the leaders don't even give a damn, like someone said that Nigeria is a nation being rules by animals.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by nlPoster: 3:29pm On Oct 01, 2019
Fhemmmy:


Show me the areas where they are and i will show you an area that isn't dominated by poor students that really need those facilities.

Nigeria has high levels of poverty, this is a fact.

As there are students in serious need of upgraded facilities, there are also millions of Nigerian kids who can't even go to school. So this problem has to be tackled otherwise the country would be in even more trouble.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by omenka(m): 3:31pm On Oct 01, 2019
Fhemmmy:


If you read my post well, I apportioned the blame to everyone but wait a minutes, someone taking a dump by the wall and using the wall to wipe the bum, isn’t that why Nigeria is called a shithole? Besides can u just imagine a nation with proper water, a school with proper facility and maybe they will use the washroom for such
Bros even most hotels in Nigeria are a mess except few that are not even within affordability of the 95% of Nigerians.... we are all to be blamed but beg those fools called leader to provide the basics and they won’t be blamed.... imagine the salary of a useless senator compared to salary of a teacher?
Brother, we have a very huge problem in this country.
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Omenkata: 3:34pm On Oct 01, 2019
omenka:
Brother, we have a very huge problem in this country.
my baby

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Fhemmmy: 3:36pm On Oct 01, 2019
nairalandposter:


Nigeria has high levels of poverty, this is a fact.

As there are students in serious need of upgraded facilities, there are also millions of Nigerian kids who can't even go to school. So this problem has to be tackled otherwise the country would be in even more trouble.

And with the mentality that we have, it will keep getting worse, people need to start to learn how to create opportunities and not wait for one, people needs to get out of their comfort zones and not wait for dada and mama to take care of them . . . Poverty sometimes supposed to be a tool that will move you into making things happen, and not to push you to a "Poor me" mentality . . .Bros, where there is no problem, there won't be opportunities for progress
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by salford1: 3:37pm On Oct 01, 2019
MuhMubRaj:
SO BECAUSE OPPURTUNITY HAS TAKEN YOU TO CANADA NOW WHAT WE HAVE AT HOME IS GARBAGE ABI YOU CAN BE ANYTHING BUT DONT BE UNGRATEFUL. DO NOT BITE THE FINGER THAT ONCE FED YOU
This is right. My family doctor here grad from a Nigerian uni, my pharmacist (who happens to be the the manager of her store and also my wife) all graduated from a Naija uni. Same as myself.
Great we all got our degrees for dirt cheap cost. One day Naija no better. But when we as Nigerians start changing our ways. The same government we love to slam, we are still the government. Until we ourselves change from our corrupt manners, nothing is gonna change.

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by omenka(m): 3:39pm On Oct 01, 2019
Omenkata:
my baby
Guy!! Relax na. angry

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by GMbuharii: 3:40pm On Oct 01, 2019
omenka:
Brother, we have a very huge problem in this country.

Haba, buhari is in charge nah!!!!

Omenkata grin

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Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by Classickj(m): 3:40pm On Oct 01, 2019
AgreatMan:
Actually, this is not a fair comparison.

International students pay an average of 3million naira in Canada per year but Nigerian schools charge an average of say 100k. (Rough estimates)

It's called getting exactly what you pay for. Good class rooms, but it's no big deal.
and how much is 3M in Canada dollar
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by omenka(m): 3:41pm On Oct 01, 2019
GMbuharii:


Haba, buhari is in charge nah!!!!

Omenkata grin
Make una go find beer drink abeg. Una too get wahala. angry
Re: My Class This Morning In Canada by pansophist(m): 3:50pm On Oct 01, 2019
GavelSlam:


It is due to per capita income.

Per capita for Norway - 62,000 dollars.

Per capita income Nigeria - 5,887 dollars.


Per capita income (PCI) or average incomemeasures the average income earned per person in a given area (city, region, country, etc.) in a specified year. It is calculated by dividing the area's total income by its total population.


Please, don't say anything slick.

Just digest these figures then ask critical questions.

False equivalence.

Firstly, per capita amount means nothing when a country is determined to improve itself. For example, the per capita for Americans is bigger than Swedish, but Sweden has free education and healthcare for its citizens, while American students are saddled with debt, ranging from over 35,000 USD on average, and more citizens files for bankruptcy yearly due to medical bills than any country in the world. Using your logic, how can you explain that?

Furthermore (as this paragraph succinctly deals with your point), Nigeria has a higher GDP than some European countries such as Ukraine, though, Ukrainians study for free, and has been a top destination for student all over the world to study at their top-quality education. Nairaland is filled with threads about studying in Ukraine. Ukrainian classrooms look similar to the Canadian own, so what's your point?

Even if Nigeria suddenly have the highest GDP per capita right now, with the government and structure in place, it will only descend lower, instead of uplift itself higher. Most importantly, the present-day Nigerian GDP being low to Norwegian is as a result of bad governance. Norwegian GDP is one of the lowest in the developed world just 40 years ago, lower than Nigeria presently, but built itself up. How about that?

You tried to make sense but actually didn't. And your answer is decorated with pride like you are schooling some ignorant stranger. Don't be rude, drop your point, without the unnecessary addendum such as, ''please do not say anything slick''. Arrogance is repugnant undecided

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