₦airaland Forum

YungMillionaire:
I do not trust Igbos either HOWEVER lets be honest and fair. Anyone who says that there are no indigenous Igbo people in (AkwaIbom, CrossRiver, Delta, Edo and Benue) is either ignorant or dishonest. Therefore, in my own opinion, I see nothing wrong in carving those areas out of Nigeria to join with the 5 SE states to form their Biafra. That would be fair. Unfortunately, for Igbos secession is not based on fairness. What you ask for is not what you get. In fact, I would be very surprised if ALL the 5 SE states agree to join Biafra at the beginning. My two cents.

pazienza:
I mean the area called SE today. This should be self explanatory.

Ekpeitit:
It's funny how you guys keep saying people claiming to be from South South ,what makes you think that there are no Niger Delta people on Nairaland?
The Niger Delta people know very well that Igbos should never be trusted and will never go with your Biafra, we also know that if you were not landlocked and we did not have oil Igbo people would never have invited us into their so called Biafra.
Let me ask you something, let's say Akwa Ibom State where I come from decide to join your useless Biafra, what will we gain from that?
What do the Igbos bring to the table,we have oil,what do you have?
You have nothing but the dream to use our oil to develop your Igbo communities.
We don't need you,you need us.
Please form your Igbo Biafra and leave us out of your nonsense.
Ndisime ndito uneghe.
I must emphasize that I am Ibibio not Yoruba.

pazienza:
Asaba was never a capital of Southern protectorate.

Southern protectorate had two capitals in its history.
Prior to Sir Egerton almagamation of Lagos Colony (SW) with Southern protectorate (SE and SS) in 1906, Calabar was the capital of Southern protectorate.
But after the 1906 almagamation, the capital of Southern Nigeria was shifted to Lagos.

Asaba has always been an Igbo speaking town and hosted the first Igbo language conference held before 1914 almagamation of Nigeria.

Better know your territory.

Iamgrey5:
No you are talking like someone trying to be smart of half


The whole of the Southern region including the Yoruba areas were one, except for the lagos colony. And the southern region itself is a British creation

So why were you making seem like only Delta was separated from the" South East" of today

awgumayor:
I don't fucking care which insignificant tribe you come from in SS but which ever tribe you come from cannot stand shoulder to shoulder with the mighty Igbos in all ramifications. Let me make it clear to you. I'm someone who hate the way IPOB are putting the self-filled hate tribes in Ss into the map of biafra. Igboland is enough to be a country and has all it needs to be an independent nation. There are many countries who are not even up to the size of Igboland that are doing great why should the igbo need haters to join them in biafra.
Should biafra be declared today no inch of igboland should be left behind, even if we didn't take it now( because Yoruba and Hausa will influence on the maps) we will take it later when therei s no yoruba and hausa to influence. The same way Russia annexed Crimea and even reaching out to Donestky is the way we will annex all our people left behind.

wirinet:
That's was why I put the word unofficial. Asaba and lokoja were where the British started their colonial administration of Southern Nigeria, even before making Calabar the first official capital.

No one is arguing that Asaba is/was an igbo enclave. The bone of contention was if Asaba had ever been under the same political structure with other igbo areas in the history of Nigeria.

pazienza:
You lack understanding.

Nope. Until 1906, Yoruba land, aka Lagos colony, was not part of Southern protectorate of Nigeria.

Southern protectorate before 1906 was just present day SE and SS, and the capital was in Calabar.

It wasn't until in 1906, when Sir Egerton added Yoruba land to Southern Nigeria, and moved the capital of Southern Nigeria from Calabar to Lagos.
Calabar lost its place in Southern Nigeria after that 1906 almagamation.

So Yes. SE(Eastern Igbo) and Western Igbo (Anioma), were part of same political structure up until 1938 when Bernard Bourdlion creation the three regions. And for the first time, divided Eastern and Western Igbo speaking groups.

This caused an uproar then, with prominent Western Igbo kings writing petitions to Bernard Bourdlion to place western Igbo in same political structure as the Eastern Igbo.

Iamgrey5:
You are indeed an olodo rabata

Lagos colony is not the whole of Yoruba land

You need to read before spewing your regular trash on Nairaland

letusbepieces:
NOBODY IS PISSING YOU OFF, KNOW YOUR TERRITORIES AND STOP PLAYING INTO THE HANDS OF YORUBA PEOPLE OPENING AKWA IBOM THREAD ALL WEEK.

THEY CAN ONLY TRY BUT IT WONT WORK.


IGBOS ARE BONDED TO THE EAST AND NEVER THE WEST.


I ACTUALLY FIND MEN FROM THE WEST DISGUSTING AND LOWER INTELLIGENCE.

pazienza:
https://www.nairaland.com/1019602/dont-blame-1914-amalgamation-rather

You are obviously a novice in NL.

Go through this thread and learn how to behave yourself in public next time.

Even your post shows that Lagos became the capital of Southern Nigeria in 1906.
Ever wondered where the capital was before 1906?

Iamgrey5:
You must be sick quoting an opinion of a Nairalander as facts for me.

My grand parents the southern protectrate government in Calabar despite being Yorubas.

The lagos colony does not include the whole of the Yorubas and definitely doesn't include Edo state.

IGBOSON1:
This here is part of what i mean!

Just read this dudes rant and see how empty and silly his post sounds! He's saying basically (and i'm assuming he's claiming to be from the Akwa-Cross states) that they prefer Hausa to Igbos, but ask him to cite specific examples how their relationship with Hausas' have benefitted his people as against how their relationship with Igbos has not, and see what his response will be!

Iamgrey5:
You must be sick quoting an opinion of a Nairalander as facts for me.

My grand parents served the southern protectrate government in Calabar despite being Yorubas.

The lagos colony does not include the whole of the Yorubas and definitely doesn't include Edo state.

Even your map looks phony

Ekpeitit:
This sounds like the rantings of a rejected and frustrated man.
To be honest,nobody cares about where Igbos go,it would be very good riddance to very bad rubbish.
The only problem is that you can't go by yourself, (you are completely landlocked) that's why you are trying to drag us into your battle.We are absolutely comfortable in Nigeria and if we ever want to form a new country in future it will be with other Niger Delta tribes who have something to offer not another scavenger who will be living off our oil.

pazienza:
The colony and protectorate of Lagos was definitely the current SW, and it was not part of Southern Nigeria before 1906. Additionally, Edo state was not part of this Lagos colony and protectorate.

Not sure of this, but I think Owo division of Modern Ondo being under Oba Bini area of influence was not part of Lagos protectorate, it was in Southern Nigeria proper before 1906 and was governed from Calabar , unlike other parts of Yorubaland that were governed from Lagos.

Iamgrey5:
You are sick

You are actually coping the Opinion of the guy who created the thread word for word and forming intellectual here.

This is despite the fact that the guy was rebuffed on the thread.

pazienza:
Rebuffed?
How do you rebuff the truth?


There was a protectorate and colony of Lagos , that was not part of Southern protectorate. That protectorate is today's SW.

I posted the topic to show you that it's an old topic and known fact.
Why would I post the thread if I was trying to claim the contents? Are you okay at all?

selemempe:
Just keep it real on this thread bro...no games here.

The eastern minorities are starting to piss me off. They have gotten everything from Igbos including large chunks of our territory and votes. We have never fought them or denied them. Abroad e
We take them as Igbos and show them love yorubas will never show them if they don't speak Yoruba.

Now tell me what we have ever got from them in return apart from insult and trolling....why? Because they think Igbos cant do without them? How? Is Rwanda not the fastest growing economy in Africa today even without access to sea or oil?

I know majority of anti-igbo sentiments on this thread would be from yorubas but I don't care because you will still not get even one south south person who would wanna defend us

pazienza:
Asaba and entire Western Igbo, aka Anioma were in same political structure as the rest of Igboland up until 1938 when southern Nigeria was divided into two.

Iamgrey5:
He agreed lagos colony was not the whole of Yoruba land when he claimed Owo division was part of Southern proctectorate, Didn't he?

He was even confronted with facts the the Lagos poctetorate is not more than the size of the current lagos state.

pazienza:
This is the original British map.
I know the truth must be shocking.

The other was colored to improve aesthetics.

wirinet:
What was the political structure called, or didn't it have a name?

pazienza:
https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ng-lagos.htm
What's wrong with you?

wordcat:
The problem of the Igbos is fighting for anyone that is being oppressed irrespective of where the person comes from.

Another problem of the Igbos is their inability to identify their enemies. Enemy of my Enemy is my friend NO DEY WORK.

The Igbos known enemy is the Fulanis BUT the Igbos worst and unknown enemy is the people of South South.

The Yorubas are neither our enemy nor our problem.

Ta ka bu gbuo

pazienza:
Rebuffed?
How do you rebuff the truth?


There was a protectorate and colony of Lagos , that was not part of Southern protectorate. That protectorate is today's SW.

I posted the topic to show you that it's an old topic and known fact.
Why would I post the thread if I was trying to claim the contents? Are you okay at all?

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ng-lagos.htm

Iamgrey5:
Your link is fake

wirinet:
If Lagos was not part of the southern protectorate, then what was it under? Northern protectorate?
Besides, the Lagos we are talking about was only Lagos Island and Ikoyi.

pazienza:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Colony