₦airaland Forum

madenigga:
You are a very wicked person to say such a thing.

I beleive my time will come, pray that before it comes all these Biafra mongering stops.

I am Igbo but u guys might not like what I will do

nkwuocha1:
I'm voting for a Northerner weda APC OR PDP, as long as a SW won't smell it.

nkwuocha1:
Trust me,you will never be president.
You're just a worthless 5th class citizen.Anuohia!

NORTHERNERS will continue to rule till Nigeria crumble like a pack of cards.

isthatso:
You dont have a choice since there wont be a SE candidate from either party

mrvitalis:
Why do u demand party ticket ...why not fight it out with the north

madenigga:
The God I serve will answer to me for He knows I have genuine intentions for my people in Igbo land and Nigeria as a whole.

Even if I don't become president I would be part of the cartel that would bring up one.

Amen

post=83081982:
SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities .

As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

omenka:
Because it is an internal party affair. The South West allowed Buhari, the north, have it without manking demands for it for two terms. After two terms, it rotates to the South West.

It's an internal party affair. Dont let that bother you.

D3mnds same of pdp bro. It's been twenty years. You guys deserve it. No?

omenka:
Wtf!! Just left Woodland!! Imagine!

Ikpeazukerosene:
APC has the fear of presenting an Igbo candidate. They would treat the candidate how they treated Ojukwu and Apc would lose SW votes.

Ikpeazukerosene:
Unfortunately, your you are politically worthless and so, your opinions don't count.

Igbos who understand politics already know how to play their game. Only political nonentities think like you.

nkwuocha1:
We didn't vote ojukwu na my father go come contest?

NORTHERNERS will continue to rule till this country turns to wasteland.I prefer a worthless Nigeria in the hands of a Northerner than a progressive one in the hand of a SWesterner.

isthatso:
and so it shall be

FarahAideed:
Kings Don't let SW people drag you into their 2023 presidential race with the north

post=83081982:
SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities .

As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

nkwuocha1:
Na for 2023 Tinubu go truly understand say OKPOLO EYES NO BE OPEN EYES

nkwuocha1:
Amen.

hustleranthem:
lol I dey tells u ..e go shock am like electric lol

madenigga:
If Biafra come It's still the same Biafrans that will be queing up for Nigeria passport, and refuse to stay in Biafra?

What is the use then of having Biafra if u would leave it and come to Nigeria to apply for citizenship. Why are u trying to frustrate the next generation of Igbos?

isthatso:
I acknowledge that we are checkmated by the North but only lack of intelligence or a heart filled with hate will lead one to say Amen to destruction.

This "destroy it all if I dont get my way" mindset from certain actors from the SE has exhibited it self sadly in the affairs of our country, altering the trajectory of what based on the initial path we were on, would have been a global powerhouse into what is undeniable a shit hole. Your prayers have been answered because your forefather made the same prayers.


I will want all Igbos, Biafrans etc to know, that the reason why we are all checkmated, why we have a constitution such as we have now, is that an Nzeogwu decided to stage a coup, and because a man called Ojukwu took us to civil war. Some people seem to not be able to disagree with others without scattering everything for everybody if they dont get their way.

nkwuocha1:
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You're a fool if your brothers and sisters are buried in unmarked graves,your pregnant women rippled open with knife while still alive and your children starved to death and you still say this trash.

isthatso:
Na una like war, these are the consequences of war

I am sick and tired of this victim mentality...you chose to go to war, you abuse us for being cowards and then you talk of the scars of the war dead.

poor man die, poor man bury am abeg. Learn to get along with others, learn to solve problems without conflict, learn to give and take. or war dead and wounded will forever be your portion

Ikpeazukerosene:
Confused lot
Igbos have no political destination.

No focus, no game plan, no action. Just be crying about and fighting everyone.

Ikpeazukerosene:
Is the East willing to turn a new leaf from their belligerent posturing towards the APC in exchange for a consideration on having them on the ballot?

This is the most important question no Igbo man can answer

kernel001:
Education is essential to enlighten our parts. So... You think because the Chinese, Americans and Europeans leave for other underdeveloped countries because, they are suffering? Foreigners exploit their hosts.

Read up "Capital Flight", that's what foreigners do to Nigerian economy.

If you're conformable with events in Nigeria, I wish you the best.

nkwuocha1:
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Guy, This country can go up in flames for all I care.I'm not in any obligation to be patriotic to a country coiled as "geographical expression".If I must remain a Nigerian,l refused to be ruled by a yoruba man.Let the Northern continue....I like their destructive style of ruling,if not for anything for the fact that it's beginning to rattle the yoruba elites.


As it is omo I prefer Yaya Bello as a president than a yoruba man in Aso Rock.

isthatso:
You keep coming back to this yoruba man thing, ask the average yoruba man he doesnt care, we diont have an inferiority complex, we have been head of state, we have been president, we have won election. you are the ones obsessed with something that can never happen. Dont bring us into it.

But to answer you. The biggest problem with the Ibo is that he will rather spoil things for everybody if he doesnt get his way. Only a fool will say what you said. I dont mind an Ibo president if he is competent , I'm just telling you it cannot happen based on what is on the ground.


Your collective mindset of cutting your nose to spite your face from independence is what has brought us here.

nkwuocha1:
Even God knows this country is going nowhere.He is a smart God.Him dey watch as Una dey Bleep unasef up

The Igbos are not suffering compared to many tribes in naija.IF you want see suffer,come north.