eni4real:
Pele that was playing in a Non-competitve era

I use his highlight for comic relief... Those defenders are very funny..

Funny how some guys think so high of the dude.
He played the sport when it was not popular in most part of the world and he glow with his gift.

Loads of offside goals and clumsy defence he played with.

GEEBITE:
Gentile low budget Pepe smh. Please do not mention Pepe when we are talking of world class defenders even the brute class that Gentile belongs.He sent the two best players of 82 world cup (Zico and Maradona) out of the tournament with the most brutal markings ever witnessed.Was Pepe ever named in the tournament team in any FIFA rated competition he has played.Please stop viewing football from the prism of youtube views.

Please get your hands on Pele's book all his goals were documented there.This is a player that was held in awe by all famous presidents even nations like US where football was not popular when he played.

Since you don't respond to Arthur Friedrich and Bican goals, I can see that you agree that those goals are sham!!

Pepe won for Country too.. He was the best player of Euro 2016 final!! And he had more club success than your Gentile!!!

Jokerman:


So why didn't Forlan or Messi win FIFA best in the years they won WC golden ball??

Because they didn't win the UCL the same year..

Modric and CR7 won the UCL in 2018..

But Modric took it to another level by winning the World cup golden ball

He won every individual awards in 2018!!!

Jokerman:


He is right.... Those players are greater than Messi and Ronaldo in world football

"Greater"

my problem with him is that, he said Messi has not won the champions league since Neymar left and because of that Messi can't win singlehandedly while Ronaldo has won singlehandedly. If he is talking about being a protagonist in the title winning team then messi won all his champions league singlehandedly except 2006

mystical109:
my problem with him is that, he said Messi has not won the champions league since Neymar left and because of that Messi can't win singlehandedly while Ronaldo has won singlehandedly. If he is talking about being a protagonist in the title winning team then messi won all his champions league singlehandedly except 2006

Lol... He's joking... No one can deny the essence of Messi

eni4real:
When you have the best teammates in the history of World cup, you can record 5 assists..

When you have a teammate(Jarzinho) that score in all games of the World cup, you can achieve anything...

Put Pele together with Dante and Jo, let see what he will achieve with them

Oga shut it jare... Sanchez used clowns to win COPA America... Stop making excuses for Messhit

LZAA:

Maradona had three assists in that final yet he was carried
Walahi i give up
Btw ppl keep going on about his world class second goal against england yet he scored a better one in his brace against Belgium in the semifinals

Still he did not win the Golden boot..

Kempes won the Golden boot and the Golden ball combined in 1978 World cup... Yet, he is not as overhyped as VARadona who was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional handball goal!!!

eni4real:


You are picking the best of the bunch..

Pele played against this particular ones once in 100 games considering the fact that he played in his native land throughout his active careers!!

Baresi was a 80's defender tho
Bobby Moore : Hope you are not referring to 66 World cup tho!! Brazil crashed out of the group stage!!
Pasarella was a 70's and 80's defender too. I don't know how relate to Pele
Beckenbauer was a great defender of the 70's but he offered more than defending.. He was a total player and that is why he won the Ballon d'or!!

I repeat, Pele played with average defenders in the 50's and 60's... Before Nigeria even gain independence.. Abeg.. Drop the hype!!

Everything evolved! ! All Sports and football will not he an exception...

If Athletucs were to be like football, I am sure many sprinters of the 60's will claim to be better than Usain Bolt

If Maradona could play against them and still excel, I see no difficulty for Pele... Ordinary Zanetti and Cambiasso marked a peak Messi in 2010, he couldn't do a shingbai

Beverlyjean:


Nonsense talk... Was modric better than CR7 the season b4 ... But because he got to the final of the WC that yr , he was awarded best player.... But now they changed rules to favour Messi as usual

babe chillax I don't know about Ronaldo and Modric. but if u ask me, I will refer u to 2013

Jokerman:


Oga shut it jare... Sanchez used clowns to win COPA America... Stop making excuses for Messhit

Clowns??
Tell that to Portugal superstars that lost to Greece in 2004 Euro finals!!!

You call players playing Europe top 5 leagues, clowns??

Your Rashidi Yekini must be a clown too!!!

Want to see a joke?? Yes, see:

m140:

Game play that guy no be their mate. Advancement in medicine, rules makes player last longer these days.No player can be Goat, how you wan do am, break records in major leagues, break records in worldcup, nations cup, even messi no playwell pass barca, cr7 even qualified pass am for goat level

. For real bro all these wanna be sports analyst and pseudo journalist should stop disrespecting the Real Ronaldo’s legacy abeg if person check the best of this and that a well compiled one that’s how they would know this guy is really phenomenal and zidane would always be in that goat conversation he singlehandedly drove France to the 2006 World Cup finals he won the euros for them his injury was their albatross in Korea and Japan 2002 World Cup where they exited in the first round his lack of fitness affected at the 2004 euros and against England he did something amazing coming off the bench to win for them in their very first game 3 fifa best each na play play normally Messi shouldn’t have more than 4 for while Ronaldo should be 3 but these days competition is watered down it’s a world of mostly average and above average one season and flash in the pan talents that’s why they won that much best player awards

Best player as in MVP of euro 2016 or the final match against france!!! Please dont be ridiculous.Both as a player for Juventus and Italy,his successes enveloped whatever PEPE can ever be. I gotta be off now.Cheers later

eni4real:
Since you don't respond to Arthur Friedrich and Bican goals, I can see that you agree that those goals are sham!!

Pepe won for Country too.. He was the best player of Euro 2016 final!! And he had more club success than your Gentile!!!

Jokerman:


If Maradona could play against them and still excel, I see no difficulty for Pele... Ordinary Zanetti and Cambiasso marked a peak Messi in 2010, he couldn't do a shingbai

You mean Mourinho??

GEEBITE:
Best player as in MVP of euro 2016 or the final match against france!!! Please dont be ridiculous.Both as a player for Juventus and Italy,his successes enveloped whatever PEPE can ever be. I gotta be off now.Cheers later

Best player of Euro 2016 final when Portugal lost Cristiano to injury...

Pepe was rated the best player on the field even though Eder delivered the trophy through his wonder strike!!

Jokerman:


Lol... You believe Messi is in top 10... This should have been your argument... Not calling him the number 1...

Now I will give you players that can tick all the boxes

Pele
Cristiano
Alfredo Di stephano
Ronaldo delima
Maradona

pele is not among top 10 of most trophies won by a player, he is not among the top 10 of most awards, cr7 is not in top 10 of most assists, most trophies. Non of the players you mentioned have up to 30 trophies. And non of them won MVP in every tournament they played. Thank u

GEEBITE:
Best player as in MVP of euro 2016 or the final match against france!!! Please dont be ridiculous.Both as a player for Juventus and Italy,his successes enveloped whatever PEPE can ever be. I gotta be off now.Cheers later

Scirea>> Gentile!!

eni4real:
Still he did not win the Golden boot..

Kempes won the Golden boot and the Golden ball combined in 1978 World cup... Yet, he is not as overhyped as VARadona who was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional handball goal!!!

Bros even top ex players,coaches and journalists call that world cup the maradona world cup

LZAA:

Bros even top ex players,coaches and journalists call that world cup the maradona world cup

But if these same set of people call Messi, the GOAT. You will disagree

Kempes won the 78 World cup, the first ever for Argentina winning the Golden boot and Golden ball

Maradona won the 2nd World cup, largely as a VARadona... Yet he get more praise..

May be because he was a golden boy in World Youth Championship... or because he was stifled in the 82 World cup and people were expecting him to shine in 86.. Even when he grinned, it became a legendary highlight...

He never got better after 86 tho!!!

mystical109:
pele is not among top 10 of most trophies won by a player, he is not among the top 10 of most awards, cr7 is not in top 10 of most assists, most trophies. Non of the players you mentioned have up to 30 trophies. And non of them won MVP in every tournament they played. Thank u

Can you tell us any tournament Pele played that he wasn't MVP??

Can you tell us any tournament Maradona played that he was MVP??

CAn you tell us any tournament Zidane or Delima played that they weren't MVP??

Can you also tell us how many players have more career assists than CR7

eni4real:
Maradona that was carried by Valdano, Buruchaga and Brown in the 86 World cup final??

Mario Kempes scored a brace in 1978 world cup final and he is not as overhyped as VARadona!!!

Okay, Argentina in the time of Messi has no other good player? Aguero, Dimaria, Tevez, Higuain aren't good enough players? Maradona was carried indeed. Using the logic, Ronaldo was also carried to European championships Portugal won abi. If a player is good, he doesn't have to score all the goals but the team would be much better with him. Barring the 2014 World Cup, Argentina has barely passed quarterfinal stage at a world Cup. They even relied on luck to get past Nigeria in the last World Cup in Russia where as expected they met their Waterloo in the next round. Messi in that Argentina squad and his absence is hardly any difference! They are hardly any better with him or without him. Prove me wrong on that.

Messi is the greatest abeg.

6 times FIFA world best(highest ever)
6 times golden boot(highest ever)
2x copa america best player, 2014 world cup best player( highest individual awards ever)
Olympic winner, Olympic best player.

Most chance created
Most dribbles
Most assists
Most goals in a calender year
Most goals in a season

eni4real:
But if these same set of people call Messi, the GOAT. You will disagree

Kempes won the 78 World cup, the first ever for Argentina winning the Golden boot and Golden ball

Maradona won the 2nd World cup, largely as a VARadona... Yet he get more praise..

May be because he was a golden boy in World Youth Championship... or because he was stifled in the 82 World cup and people were expecting him to shine in 86.. Even when he grinned, it became a legendary highlight...

He never got better after 86 tho!!!

He actually did cuz then napoli won all those trophies after he returned from mexico
U keep going on about kempes forgetting that argentina bribed peru to lose in order to progress but in 86 they couldn't bribe anybody
Now kempes is a fine striker but to compare him to maradona is well...

mystical109:
babe chillax I don't know about Ronaldo and Modric. but if u ask me, I will refer u to 2013

I will also refer u to 2010

dayowunmi:

Okay, Argentina in the time of Messi has no other good player? Aguero, Dimaria, Tevez, Higuain aren't good enough players? Maradona was carried indeed. Using the logic, Ronaldo was also carried to European championships Portugal won abi. If a player is good, he doesn't have to score all the goals but the team would be much better with him. Barring the 2014 World Cup, Argentina has barely passed quarterfinal stage at a world Cup. They even relied on luck to get past Nigeria in the last World Cup in Russia where as expected they met their Waterloo in the next round. Messi in that Argentina squad and his absence is hardly any difference! They are hardly any better with him or without him. Prove me wrong on that.

all the playes in Argentina are dependent on messi exactly how Barcelona teams are now getting lazy.

Without messi Argentina wouldn't even qualify for 2016 copa america and 2018 world cup, without Lionel messi Argentina would be a low budget Nigeria team without direction. Messi is the unlikest player on earth. I hope he wins 2020 copa america so you haters can finally shut up about international trophy

Carlyboi:
. For real bro all these wanna be sports analyst and pseudo journalist should stop disrespecting the Real Ronaldo’s legacy abeg if person check the best of this and that a well compiled one that’s how they would know this guy is really phenomenal and zidane would always be in that goat conversation he singlehandedly drove France to the 2006 World Cup finals he won the euros for them his injury was their albatross in Korea and Japan 2002 World Cup where they exited in the first round his lack of fitness affected at the 2004 euros and against England he did something amazing coming off the bench to win for them in their very first game 3 fifa best each na play play normally Messi shouldn’t have more than 4 for while Ronaldo should be 3 but these days competition is watered down it’s a world of mostly average and above average one season and flash in the pan talents that’s why they won that much best player awards

Do you bliv , if messi lost on 2010 ballon d'or its possible he lost focus and never it again. Eg, sneider lost focus after 2010 wc.

dayowunmi:

Okay, Argentina in the time of Messi has no other good player? Aguero, Dimaria, Tevez, Higuain aren't good enough players? Maradona was carried indeed. Using the logic, Ronaldo was also carried to European championships Portugal won abi. If a player is good, he doesn't have to score all the goals but the team would be much better with him. Barring the 2014 World Cup, Argentina has barely passed quarterfinal stage at a world Cup. They even relied on luck to get past Nigeria in the last World Cup in Russia where as expected they met their Waterloo in the next round. Messi in that Argentina squad and his absence is hardly any difference! They are hardly any better with him or without him. Prove me wrong on that.

Aguero: injured in 60% of 2014 World cup
Higuain: One match wonder
Di Maria: Controversially missed the World cup final

Who else do you want o mention??

Bastituta is greater than all of them combined... They are poor teammates!!

Yet Messi still won the World cup golden ball by winning most MOTM In that world cup...

No difference?? Really?? Who remove the shame of inability to qualify for the World cup from Argentina?? Hatrick against Ecuador...
Argentina was dropping down the qualification zone because Messi had bans.. He came back to rescue them..

You forget that Argentina with Bastituta, Someone, Ortega, Veron etc., crashed out of 2002 World cup, crashed out of 1998 World cup.. You won't mention that since Messi is not involved

Messi era was the first time Argentina will make a World Cup final since 1990

The last time an Argentine won the World cup golden ball was in 1986, VARadona was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional hand ball goal tho!!

LZAA:

He actually did cuz then napoli won all those trophies after he returned from mexico
U keep going on about kempes forgetting that argentina bribed peru to lose in order to progress but in 86 they couldn't bribe anybody
Now kempes is a fine striker but to compare him to maradona is well...

They didn't bribe anyone but there was a VARadona who was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional hand ball goal...

I don't think Maradona got better, apart from SerieA in 87 and that Europa League trophy (UEFA Cup), what else did he win??

What has Maradona won in his career that Griezmann has not won??

m140:

Do you bliv , if messi lost on 2010 ballon d'or its possible he lost focus and never it again. Eg, sneider lost focus after 2010 wc.

it’s pretty much possible but majorly one of the things that Messi and cr7 stacks their shelf and cvs with his those fifa best And ballon dors with 11 between them which should have been 7 at best despite the dumbed down and mostly average players and above average few special players playing now

eni4real:
They didn't bribe anyone but there was a VARadona who was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional hand ball goal...

I don't think Maradona got better, apart from SerieA in 87 and that Europa League trophy (UEFA Cup), what else did he win??

What has Maradona won in his career that Griezmann has not won??

Ur case oo

LZAA:


Ur case oo

Okay, let's check the last Monday together!!

Who won the best??

DanXplore:


The list on the op is not exhaustive else people like Sunday Oliseh, Ortega, Cafu, Nesta, Shevchenko etc would be in the list.

you are right Joe.. No zamorano or Uruguay Recoba

Carlyboi:
it’s pretty much possible but majorly one of the things that Messi and cr7 stacks their shelf and cvs with his those fifa best And ballon dors with 11 between them which should have been 7 at best despite the dumbed down and mostly average players and above average few special players playing now

Thats why i say they only conquered European football, wc both nothing