deedee44:

So what are you saying, offline is a fraud or not?

nitigriti:


True sir!
Even Uber and Bolt understand drivers will reject a few trips. That's why drivers are only penalized when their rates of rejecting trips goes above a set limit. It's not professional to tell a rider, "I'm not going to your destination because the roads are bad; but I will go if we negotiate the trip offline." It's not professional and it's not right.

My opinion.

Chuwaa:


We get his point but have you noticed that once in a while, his ilks shows up here and it always ends up with cocky and condescending submissions. I've also noticed that those with such complaints here never let go, always boast of great achievements in life but always have ZERO emotional intelligence.

That aside, the points listed for offline trips are valid. Now the riders who request for offline, are they also fraudulent?
Let me stop here for now.

I also did Uber during down times for 5months last year.

pocohantas:

Not always o. My boss is a really smart guy, he loves to analyze things. He basks in his intellect. Sadly, it most times gets him into trouble with the people that matter. At a point, we reached a conclusion to leave presentations, meetings and replying of certain mails to me- lest he puts us all in trouble.

northbird:
Seniors, pls let us not allow a single guy to derail this glorious thread.

The last 4 pages, ?

Heck, he is not even a driver partner with Uber/ bolt.

If he is aggrieved, he should report to Uber n end it there, n not bring the reportage to this place.

The purpose of this thread is to inform n learn from the experiences of others. The gurus and the greenhorns.

@ izzou: keep doing the good work broda.
That's d kind of energy I like getting on this platform. Positive vibes only.

Chuwaa:


We get his point but have you noticed that once in a while, his ilks shows up here and it always ends up with cocky and condescending submissions. I've also noticed that those with such complaints here never let go, always boast of great achievements in life but always have ZERO emotional intelligence.

That aside, the points listed for offline trips are valid. Now the riders who request for offline, are they also fraudulent?
Let me stop here for now.

I also did Uber during down times for 5months last year.

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nitigriti:
I did emailing for 2 years. And yes, I did offline trips. But I never initiated them on my own or tried to convert an online trip to an offline one. A few examples:
1) A couple booked me offline for their wedding Saturday, Sunday and Monday; AFTER I carried them around Lagos for four hours plus as they did their shopping ONLINE without complaining;
2) There's a rider who works at Coca Cola, Agidingbi. He booked me online for a trip in Lagos, he enjoyed the trip and requested that I take him and his colleagues offline to Ibadan.
3) I remember picking up four Yahoo guys from my estate (gowon) on Uber. Their destination was Otta, around Covenant University. I explained to them that Uber trip will stop reading once I leave Lagos area and so I won't go. One of them offered that we should do the trip offline. I said no, let's do it online till toll gate, then I will end the trip; we will do #1,500 offline from toll gate to Covenant University and then you will give me #1,000 for fuel back to Egbeda, Lagos. The total is your bill; which was fair enough.

Ornicus's point is you don't cheat the platform that brings you and a rider together. I completely agree. I remember I once stated here it wasn't right to select trips and reject others; that it makes the service unreliable for riders and every driver suffers for it in the end.

The platform will bring its own opportunities; by all means, use those opportunities well. But don't cheat the platform. This is Ornicus's point.

epistleNow:
Guys be careful today, no let surge put you into wahala oh
*as seen from today's report on the road*

tojahh:



By now the rider don reach house.

ndubuis:
Let's just understand one thing. The Uber rule that requires drivers not to ask or reject trips is worldwide, developed countries where things actually work, not naija. If you have ever driven your car across Babs Animashaun, Community Road, off Ago Palace Way, entered a deep pool of water, end up spending hundreds of thousands to fix it, you will understand why you should ask. A request once came my way of a man going to Epe on Uber. So, should I accept it because I want to be a nice guy and drive back empty? Uber does not care about what happens to you or your car, truth be told. So, why do I have to be a slave to the system? I turn down request to places that I deem as dangeous in terms of bad roads and otherwise. I will continue to do so. Accept such trips at your peril. This is Nigeria, not America. What applies there cannot apply here. That professional balderdash cannot and will never apply here with the road, security and economic situation.

dejidotun2000:
I understood you but justed wanted to add more color to the discussion. lol

As for your boss, he will eventually realize that he shouldn't tell people things they are unlikely to understand.... at least unless they specifically ask him

Gentlelife50:

Before nko? And it's likely a female rider

ornicus:


i guess i can understand why a lot of companies use aptitude tests. no point in trying to engage people whose thinking is so faulty that they cannot even grasp basic ethics.

a lot of the rubbish i have read here is also a revalidation of the fact that most nigerians are unemployable.

Y1nka:



Though I get your point , and I understand what you are pointing at.... I always thought there should be some sort of price option on Uber / bolt... that could engage the driver/ rider on renegotiation or some sort... and some other benefits aside bonus.


But that aside, coming to this forum, and assuming by the few numbers that u talk to here... that Nigerians are unemployable is rather irrational

radautoworks:
in that case, I don't think you should be able to reject trips. My family and I were stranded in Rome from 11:02pm tIill 2am, new Jersey till 3:45am and almost missed a flight in NJ because of exactly this. Drivers would be on the way then cancel without a word and then we would have to start over. One even showed up (Rome), saw we were black and cancelled. In NJ, he wanted more to carry us when he arrived. He refused, drove off, started the trip and we were charged! Filed a dispute and got money back.

Other professions don't pick and choose. Imagine if doctor accepts your appointment and then you show up and doctors says he doesn't want your case but you can afford to pay.

nitigriti:


A driver somewhere is looking for that same trip to Epe on Uber that you rejected. One man's poision is another man's meat.

pocohantas:


Hahahaha. Why?

Crvrider:


Brain things, abi!? Until them slam you with sexual assault your brain go correct. Instead of all those 'unneccessities' just politely ask them to adjust. But the begin prove stubborn, park and the the trip.

peeps4u:
I think Ornicus has made brilliant arguments here;

Drivers might feel shortchanged on the platforms, I agree with ornicus that instead of cutting corners, drivers should forward their complaints through official channel and press for reviews, after all, drivers are partners. Uber/taxify might not bring positive and favourable reforms on the platform if drivers keep cutting corners rather than letting their parent partners know their challenges and adjust accordingly.

northbird:
pls where in Lagos is this?

nitigriti:


Good point!
And the honest truth is that the specific circumstance will tell if the rider requesting for the offline trip is being fraudulent or not.

izzou:


I'm sorry ma, but have you always worked on all the cars that was brought to your workshop?

Haven't you ever rejected a repair because of reasons other than finance?

If yes, I might just conclude that's it's unprofessional.

Dbossmanager:

Only a mumu driver is looking for a ride to epe unless he stays there or was going there. I am from epe and I can tell u even if you stay there for 3 days, u wont get a trip back...
The ornicos man's anger wasn't for the offline offer made by the driver but for the rejection, prolly many drivers cancelled on him because of his destination...
Some people stay in government-forsaken areas...looking for a car they will destroy with their terrible roads...
Even in the USA, drivers reject trips they dont fancy...
If uber could drive his own car, am sure he would blacklist some of this terrible places from using his platform...
the morals is....if you stay in government-forsaken areas with terrible roads, enter okada or marwa....and drivers stop negotiating offlines, pity your lives and your cars...simply cancel those terrible areas...
worst is ....those areas have bad riders....lol...
Any of my drivers that take my cars there ehn...lol..make I sha no know...lol...

radautoworks:


Only when it was a problem we couldn't solve and to date in Nigeria, that has been twice

Gentlelife50:

I wanted to mention you oooo

Chuwaa:


Being fraudulent is simply cutting uber out of the game, and according to your initial submission, no justifiable reason, how has the game changed for riders and not for drivers?

Christmas season is here again, we'll see riders using their platform to request trips to the east and other SW states. Our OP cannot simply understand the issues because he has not worn the shoes. For you, I guess it was a side hustle with your own car and you could afford to stick to whatever personal principles you choose.
Aside Nigeria, hasn't these ehail companies been having running battles worldwide?

As long as they keep paying fat salaries and bonuses to their executives without addressing their drivers concerns, these loopholes will continue to be exploited.

AFTER all the so called appropriate way to channel these issues to Uber, what have the town hall meetings of last year with Bolt produced.

These ehail companies keep proper track of where trips originate from and where it's almost impossible, why can't they factor return trips from places like Mowe, Agbara etc.

They know these things and as long as they don't address it, drivers and Riders would continue to negotiate offline trips.

izzou:


Even if it is once, to me, it's unprofessional

But you know what? You had your reasons for doing that. You saw a reason that, I cannot see. I may not understand, but you really do.

And you the funniest part? I would probably reject the repairs just as you did

That's my point in this whole matter.

nitigriti:


Drivers on Uber and Bolt are free to reject or cancel trips they don't like. It is the reason it is possible to do both — reject or cancel — on both apps.

However, Uber and Bolt understand that not all trips will be a bad proposition to a particular driver; that's why they peg cancelation rates before penalty at a maximum, say 25%. Once any driver's cancellation rate goes above this threshold in a given week, the account is suspended.

A driver somewhere is looking for that same trip to Epe on Uber that you rejected. One man's poision is another man's meat.