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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by worlexy(m): 1:03pm On Nov 03, 2019
EternalBeing:
Almighty God is truly awesome, a great eternal self-existent, self-sufficient Being far beyond who words could efficiently describe. The size of HIS Creation (Heavens, Earth, the Multiverse, the Universe, the Angels, Humans, Animals, Inanimate things, etc.) is unquantifiable. HIS Wisdom is truly infite, unsearchable and immeasurable.
Quran and Bible agrees that ALMIGHTY GOD created Man from miry clay and chose to elevate Man above all his creation; including the Angels. Angels were made from fire, diamonds, electricity and superior immortal things that we don't even know as humans, while Man was made from miry clay.

Just as we humans have authority over the cloths, cars, computers, air planes, etc. that we manufactured for particular purposes, ALMIGHTY GOD has far more Supreme Authority over all Angels and Humans because HE created us for his desired purposes. YAHWEH's decision to elevate Man above all the Angels led to the Battle (Revelations 12:7) that happened in Heaven which resulted in the demotion of Satan because he refused to bow to Man (you and I) as ALMIGHTY GOD commanded.

Quran even puts it far better, to prostrate is far more submissive than to bow. Quran stated and reiterated this many times with same sentence. Quran 2:34, Quran 20:116, Quran 18:50, Quran 17:61, Quran 7:11,and Quran 2:34 says: "Recall when We said to all Angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam; all prostrated themselves except Satan, he refused." Some other angels refused too, and fell with him by doing so. And the Bible confirms this.

Truly, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, our great Creator, is the Authority over all other authoritie, and nothing that HE desires to do could be stopped. His decision to elevate Man above Angels still came to pass and permanenly eternally established. Bible confirms this in Hebrew 1:6, Deuteronomy 32:43, Revelation 7:11, Revelation 5:1-14; Revelation 19:1-8, etc. Hebrews 1:5-6 "For unto which of the Angels said HE at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? (Non!) And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the Angels of ALMIGHTY GOD worship him.
He didn't just earn that on a platter of gold, He most painfully paid for it. All were given equal opportunity to come and suffer for the World's Sin that they didn't commit, and die for Humanity. But when they saw the terrible horror of the "Cup to be drank", they shudder and ran back. Non of them love us enough to stake their lives and Heaven enjoyments, non of them love humanity enough to down grade to mere mortal to be born in stinking manger, non of them was... They knew that Humanity would be eternally doomed if non of them came down to redeem us back to our Creator, yet they saw us as useless mere mortals that was never worth suffering such excruciating pain for or dying for. I weep as I type this.

Only Jesus Christ HaMashiach(means our Saviour) saw how much YAHWEH ALMIGHTY loves us, only Him loves us as much as our great CREATOR, only Him was unselfish enough to say "I shall go down there to restore them their right to live forever" Yet, some shallow minded humans that are still blinded by Satan would say JESUS does not deserve our Worship. Will you now join me to shout "THANK YOU JESUS!!!" He has proved His eternal loyalty to the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth than any Angel or Human could ever do. So, the Angels in Heaven sang and proclaimed Him worthy and truly deserving of our worship forever. We thank ALMIGHTY GOD for granting Him the Throne beside HIMSELF.

Satan and his demons faught to stop the elevation and enthrnement of Man above them, but it still happened willy-nilly. Hebrew 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?" Non! Except Man, Jesus Christ, who earned His throne beside YAHWEH ALMIGHTY by being loyalty personified! I pity humans that worship Satan, demons or go to herbalists just because of material things and "solutions" in this temporary World. Such people devalue, demote and put themselves under Satan's feet instead of it being vice versa as originally mandated by ALMIGHTY GOD.

Now, let's say "Thank you Jesus!!!" and type several words worship from the depth of our Souls to appreciate our Maker as HE truly deserves. HalleluYAH!!!

Please stop misinforming people and stop adding to what is not written in the Bible.

Revelation 22:18

"And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book."

The Bible never records that God commanded Satan and other angels to bow down to human beings, all the Bible quotations you cited to back up your claim are saying a different thing entirely, what are you trying to gain by twisting the word of God?

If the Quran says that Satan refused God's command to bow down to Adam, the Bible didn't say that.

The sin of Satan as recorded by the Bible is his rebellion against God and the desire to elevate his throne above that of the Host High God

"He became arrogant in his beauty and status and decided he wanted to sit on a throne above that of God (Isaiah 14:13-14 ; Ezekiel 28:15 ; 1 Timothy 3:6 ). Satan’s pride led to his fall. Notice the many “I will” statements in Isaiah 14:12-15 . Because of his sin, God permanently removed Satan from his exalted position and role."



Shalom
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by mysteryman2014: 1:03pm On Nov 03, 2019
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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by MicroBox: 1:04pm On Nov 03, 2019
victorazyvictor:


Plz no dey join Bible and Quran.... We don't serve the same God plz.

Anyway thanks for the article, you tried.
What did you know about Islam apart from what the media and social media tells you.
Stop been gullible and read wider. Who knows, you can be among the once that will be guided to the right path and save you from the path of those who had gone astray.
I get mouth to insult oo but I will keep my cool so use your brain.

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by VULCAN(m): 1:10pm On Nov 03, 2019
OP must be a follower of Chrislam. Those confused folk who attempt to mix Christianity and Islam.

When have you ever heard an Imam using numerous Bible quotes while teaching to give weight to his point. LOL

The matured Christians can see clearly what OP is attempting to do.

Don't be fooled! .

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by bluefilm: 1:25pm On Nov 03, 2019
The delusion continues...
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Griffon(m): 1:43pm On Nov 03, 2019
sotall:
You are using Quaran as back up for Bible
Wetin Seun no go see for nairaland

Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Segee001(m): 1:47pm On Nov 03, 2019
This controversy about lucifer/Satan is unnecessary, however, we don't need the knowledge of his history as a requisite for our salvation. All we need to do is to worship the one true God who is in three forms (God the Father, God the Son and and God the Holy Spirit). They are in three persons, yet one, because they work in oneness. In the beginning, this three forms of God said, "let's create man in our own image" (mind u, he was not talking to the angels because we are not in the image of angels). It was conversation among the 3 forms of God which make one God. Man was created in God's image/likeness, in the image of these 3 forms. Man was created into three forms inside one, that is; soul (image of God), body (image of Christ) and spirit (image of Holy Spirit). This three forms of man works as one like that of God. Our soul/mind is in charge. Whatever our body does, either rightly or wrongly is always in the decision of our mind. As Christ will not do anything out of the decision of God. God is one as man is one but in three form. God sent his Word with which he created all things, Jesus Christ, into the earth to die for our sins that he who believes in him, only, shall have eternal life and vice versa. His blood was made has sacrifice for our sins. Nothing can clear off ur sins except the blood of Jesus, no matter how righteous u are, u need Christ to help clear ur sins. You can't do it in worship directly to God without Jesus as mediator. Repent, accept Christ as ur Lord and be baptized Act 2v32. Then u will be safe and have everlasting life.
Following that prophet who doesn't know how his eternity will be and beseached u to pray for him after his death cannot safe u.
Moreover, Christ said if anyone comes after him and give us different teaching, we should rebuke him

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Reinvented: 1:48pm On Nov 03, 2019
promisedeco:

You sound like an educated person. where you there when all the history and events you know and believe happened?
Ok, were you there when your father and mother got married? Were you there when your parents were born? So, how are you sure they are your parents as you only believe what you witnessed? So since you were not there, then you were never born by your parents nor were your parents humans... simple analogy eeeh!!

Meanwhile OP is a chrislam, not a Christian. He needs Jesus and a refinement of his blurred biblical knowledge. You cannot mix light and darkness. Light dispels darkness. Truth overcomes fables snd lies any day.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by sonofElElyon: 1:51pm On Nov 03, 2019
It is Islam that holds that position. In Christianity it is the vaulting ambition of Satan to be as God that led him to cause a rebellion involving a third of the angels. Read the 5 "I WILLs" of Satan in ISAIAH 14:12 - 17



EternalBeing:
Almighty God is truly awesome, a great eternal self-existent, self-sufficient Being far beyond who words could efficiently describe. The size of HIS Creation (Heavens, Earth, the Multiverse, the Universe, the Angels, Humans, Animals, Inanimate things, etc.) is unquantifiable. HIS Wisdom is truly infite, unsearchable and immeasurable.
Quran and Bible agrees that ALMIGHTY GOD created Man from miry clay and chose to elevate Man above all his creation; including the Angels. Angels were made from fire, diamonds, electricity and superior immortal things that we don't even know as humans, while Man was made from miry clay.

Just as we humans have authority over the cloths, cars, computers, air planes, etc. that we manufactured for particular purposes, ALMIGHTY GOD has far more Supreme Authority over all Angels and Humans because HE created us for his desired purposes. YAHWEH's decision to elevate Man above all the Angels led to the Battle (Revelations 12:7) that happened in Heaven which resulted in the demotion of Satan because he refused to bow to Man (you and I) as ALMIGHTY GOD commanded.

Quran even puts it far better, to prostrate is far more submissive than to bow. Quran stated and reiterated this many times with same sentence. Quran 2:34, Quran 20:116, Quran 18:50, Quran 17:61, Quran 7:11,and Quran 2:34 says: "Recall when We said to all Angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam; all prostrated themselves except Satan, he refused." Some other angels refused too, and fell with him by doing so. And the Bible confirms this.

Truly, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, our great Creator, is the Authority over all other authoritie, and nothing that HE desires to do could be stopped. His decision to elevate Man above Angels still came to pass and permanenly eternally established. Bible confirms this in Hebrew 1:6, Deuteronomy 32:43, Revelation 7:11, Revelation 5:1-14; Revelation 19:1-8, etc. Hebrews 1:5-6 "For unto which of the Angels said HE at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? (Non!) And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the Angels of ALMIGHTY GOD worship him.
He didn't just earn that on a platter of gold, He most painfully paid for it. All were given equal opportunity to come and suffer for the World's Sin that they didn't commit, and die for Humanity. But when they saw the terrible horror of the "Cup to be drank", they shudder and ran back. Non of them love us enough to stake their lives and Heaven enjoyments, non of them love humanity enough to down grade to mere mortal to be born in stinking manger, non of them was... They knew that Humanity would be eternally doomed if non of them came down to redeem us back to our Creator, yet they saw us as useless mere mortals that was never worth suffering such excruciating pain for or dying for. I weep as I type this.

Only Jesus Christ HaMashiach(means our Saviour) saw how much YAHWEH ALMIGHTY loves us, only Him loves us as much as our great CREATOR, only Him was unselfish enough to say "I shall go down there to restore them their right to live forever" Yet, some shallow minded humans that are still blinded by Satan would say JESUS does not deserve our Worship. Will you now join me to shout "THANK YOU JESUS!!!" He has proved His eternal loyalty to the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth than any Angel or Human could ever do. So, the Angels in Heaven sang and proclaimed Him worthy and truly deserving of our worship forever. We thank ALMIGHTY GOD for granting Him the Throne beside HIMSELF.

Satan and his demons faught to stop the elevation and enthrnement of Man above them, but it still happened willy-nilly. Hebrew 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?" Non! Except Man, Jesus Christ, who earned His throne beside YAHWEH ALMIGHTY by being loyalty personified! I pity humans that worship Satan, demons or go to herbalists just because of material things and "solutions" in this temporary World. Such people devalue, demote and put themselves under Satan's feet instead of it being vice versa as originally mandated by ALMIGHTY GOD.

Now, let's say "Thank you Jesus!!!" and type several words worship from the depth of our Souls to appreciate our Maker as HE truly deserves. HalleluYAH!!!
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by promisedeco(m): 1:55pm On Nov 03, 2019
Reinvented:

Ok, were you there when your father and mother got married? Were you there when your parents were born? So, how are you sure they are your parents? So since you were not there, then you were never born by your parents nor were your parents humans... simple analogy eeeh!!
my point is, you shouldn't be asking if the guy was there when it happened, because we did not witness most of the things we know. Someone said it or you read it and believed. If you don't believe anything he wrote just say it. Asking "were you there?" Makes you look...

PS: I don't believe most of the things he said

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Reinvented: 1:59pm On Nov 03, 2019
promisedeco:
my point is, you shouldn't be asking if the guy was there when it happened, because we did not witness most of the things we know. Someone said it or you read it and believed. If you don't believe anything he wrote just say it. Asking "were you there?" Makes you look....
Guess my question should have been to the guy you quoted @ ideatoprince18. We are on dame platform then.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by InvertedHammer: 2:05pm On Nov 03, 2019
EternalBeing:
Almighty God is truly awesome, a great eternal self-existent, self-sufficient Being far beyond who words could efficiently describe. The size of HIS Creation (Heavens, Earth, the Multiverse, the Universe, the Angels, Humans, Animals, Inanimate things, etc.) is unquantifiable. HIS Wisdom is truly infite, unsearchable and immeasurable.
Quran and Bible agrees that ALMIGHTY GOD created Man from miry clay and chose to elevate Man above all his creation; including the Angels. Angels were made from fire, diamonds, electricity and superior immortal things that we don't even know as humans, while Man was made from miry clay.

Just as we humans have authority over the cloths, cars, computers, air planes, etc. that we manufactured for particular purposes, ALMIGHTY GOD has far more Supreme Authority over all Angels and Humans because HE created us for his desired purposes. YAHWEH's decision to elevate Man above all the Angels led to the Battle (Revelations 12:7) that happened in Heaven which resulted in the demotion of Satan because he refused to bow to Man (you and I) as ALMIGHTY GOD commanded.

Quran even puts it far better, to prostrate is far more submissive than to bow. Quran stated and reiterated this many times with same sentence. Quran 2:34, Quran 20:116, Quran 18:50, Quran 17:61, Quran 7:11,and Quran 2:34 says: "Recall when We said to all Angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam; all prostrated themselves except Satan, he refused." Some other angels refused too, and fell with him by doing so. And the Bible confirms this.

Truly, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, our great Creator, is the Authority over all other authoritie, and nothing that HE desires to do could be stopped. His decision to elevate Man above Angels still came to pass and permanenly eternally established. Bible confirms this in Hebrew 1:6, Deuteronomy 32:43, Revelation 7:11, Revelation 5:1-14; Revelation 19:1-8, etc. Hebrews 1:5-6 "For unto which of the Angels said HE at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? (Non!) And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the Angels of ALMIGHTY GOD worship him.
He didn't just earn that on a platter of gold, He most painfully paid for it. All were given equal opportunity to come and suffer for the World's Sin that they didn't commit, and die for Humanity. But when they saw the terrible horror of the "Cup to be drank", they shudder and ran back. Non of them love us enough to stake their lives and Heaven enjoyments, non of them love humanity enough to down grade to mere mortal to be born in stinking manger, non of them was... They knew that Humanity would be eternally doomed if non of them came down to redeem us back to our Creator, yet they saw us as useless mere mortals that was never worth suffering such excruciating pain for or dying for. I weep as I type this.

Only Jesus Christ HaMashiach(means our Saviour) saw how much YAHWEH ALMIGHTY loves us, only Him loves us as much as our great CREATOR, only Him was unselfish enough to say "I shall go down there to restore them their right to live forever" Yet, some shallow minded humans that are still blinded by Satan would say JESUS does not deserve our Worship. Will you now join me to shout "THANK YOU JESUS!!!" He has proved His eternal loyalty to the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth than any Angel or Human could ever do. So, the Angels in Heaven sang and proclaimed Him worthy and truly deserving of our worship forever. We thank ALMIGHTY GOD for granting Him the Throne beside HIMSELF.

Satan and his demons faught to stop the elevation and enthrnement of Man above them, but it still happened willy-nilly. Hebrew 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?" Non! Except Man, Jesus Christ, who earned His throne beside YAHWEH ALMIGHTY by being loyalty personified! I pity humans that worship Satan, demons or go to herbalists just because of material things and "solutions" in this temporary World. Such people devalue, demote and put themselves under Satan's feet instead of it being vice versa as originally mandated by ALMIGHTY GOD.

Now, let's say "Thank you Jesus!!!" and type several words worship from the depth of our Souls to appreciate our Maker as HE truly deserves. HalleluYAH!!!
/
Oh boy!

Here we go again.

/
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by fortran12: 2:11pm On Nov 03, 2019
EternalBeing:
Almighty God is truly awesome, a great eternal self-existent, self-sufficient Being far beyond who words could efficiently describe. The size of HIS Creation (Heavens, Earth, the Multiverse, the Universe, the Angels, Humans, Animals, Inanimate things, etc.) is unquantifiable. HIS Wisdom is truly infite, unsearchable and immeasurable.
Quran and Bible agrees that ALMIGHTY GOD created Man from miry clay and chose to elevate Man above all his creation; including the Angels. Angels were made from fire, diamonds, electricity and superior immortal things that we don't even know as humans, while Man was made from miry clay.

Just as we humans have authority over the cloths, cars, computers, air planes, etc. that we manufactured for particular purposes, ALMIGHTY GOD has far more Supreme Authority over all Angels and Humans because HE created us for his desired purposes. YAHWEH's decision to elevate Man above all the Angels led to the Battle (Revelations 12:7) that happened in Heaven which resulted in the demotion of Satan because he refused to bow to Man (you and I) as ALMIGHTY GOD commanded.

Quran even puts it far better, to prostrate is far more submissive than to bow. Quran stated and reiterated this many times with same sentence. Quran 2:34, Quran 20:116, Quran 18:50, Quran 17:61, Quran 7:11,and Quran 2:34 says: "Recall when We said to all Angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam; all prostrated themselves except Satan, he refused." Some other angels refused too, and fell with him by doing so. And the Bible confirms this.

Truly, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, our great Creator, is the Authority over all other authoritie, and nothing that HE desires to do could be stopped. His decision to elevate Man above Angels still came to pass and permanenly eternally established. Bible confirms this in Hebrew 1:6, Deuteronomy 32:43, Revelation 7:11, Revelation 5:1-14; Revelation 19:1-8, etc. Hebrews 1:5-6 "For unto which of the Angels said HE at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? (Non!) And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the Angels of ALMIGHTY GOD worship him.
He didn't just earn that on a platter of gold, He most painfully paid for it. All were given equal opportunity to come and suffer for the World's Sin that they didn't commit, and die for Humanity. But when they saw the terrible horror of the "Cup to be drank", they shudder and ran back. Non of them love us enough to stake their lives and Heaven enjoyments, non of them love humanity enough to down grade to mere mortal to be born in stinking manger, non of them was... They knew that Humanity would be eternally doomed if non of them came down to redeem us back to our Creator, yet they saw us as useless mere mortals that was never worth suffering such excruciating pain for or dying for. I weep as I type this.

Only Jesus Christ HaMashiach(means our Saviour) saw how much YAHWEH ALMIGHTY loves us, only Him loves us as much as our great CREATOR, only Him was unselfish enough to say "I shall go down there to restore them their right to live forever" Yet, some shallow minded humans that are still blinded by Satan would say JESUS does not deserve our Worship. Will you now join me to shout "THANK YOU JESUS!!!" He has proved His eternal loyalty to the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth than any Angel or Human could ever do. So, the Angels in Heaven sang and proclaimed Him worthy and truly deserving of our worship forever. We thank ALMIGHTY GOD for granting Him the Throne beside HIMSELF.

Satan and his demons faught to stop the elevation and enthrnement of Man above them, but it still happened willy-nilly. Hebrew 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?" Non! Except Man, Jesus Christ, who earned His throne beside YAHWEH ALMIGHTY by being loyalty personified! I pity humans that worship Satan, demons or go to herbalists just because of material things and "solutions" in this temporary World. Such people devalue, demote and put themselves under Satan's feet instead of it being vice versa as originally mandated by ALMIGHTY GOD.

Now, let's say "Thank you Jesus!!!" and type several words worship from the depth of our Souls to appreciate our Maker as HE truly deserves. HalleluYAH!!!

When did Jesus say 'I shall go down there to restore them their right to live forever'?
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by gudugudumeje: 2:13pm On Nov 03, 2019
Almighty God - Olodumare - cannot be Yahweh;Nb. Yahweh is a god in and of Israel like Ogun or,Sango in Yorubaland. And Yahweh is a blood sucking and blood letting high ranking space being.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by akdjr(m): 2:14pm On Nov 03, 2019
I wonder who covered all bullshit in heaven and report it here on Earth.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Bahddo(m): 2:22pm On Nov 03, 2019
So you belive you are elevated above angels? Angels that just one of them (according to the Bible) killed 185,000 humans in a single night?

Irredeemably stupid opinion coming from a mere human that can just slip, fall and die.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by victorazyvictor(m): 2:26pm On Nov 03, 2019
MicroBox:

What did you know about Islam apart from what the media and social media tells you.
Stop been gullible and read wider. Who knows, you can be among the once that will be guided to the right path and save you from the path of those who had gone astray.
I get mouth to insult oo but I will keep my cool so use your brain.

Go insult your mama first, or either held on your Friday thread

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Abcruz(m): 2:27pm On Nov 03, 2019
Neddstark:
Man above angels? This is not biblically true. Bible says God created man a little lower than angels

The original Greek word that was transcribed as angels in Hebrew 2:7 was actually "Elohim (God)". However, man ought not to think more highly of himself.

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by salam8528: 2:35pm On Nov 03, 2019
[quote author=luiscarter post=83698760]Stop linking sucide bombers books with the holy bible OP[/quote even on Sunday u know still get sense. so ur pastors that rape, lie and exploit ur people by shouting Jesus name up and down, should we assume the bible is an evil book just because some of ur pastors decide to use I negatively?

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by donkuso(f): 2:37pm On Nov 03, 2019
Ohhhh!!!! Thank you Jesus ��❤️ 1000 and forever times ......

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by sacx: 2:38pm On Nov 03, 2019
You've got things mixed up here, though still arrived at a good conclusion.

It's necessary however to clarify that the fall of Lucifer had nothing to do with refusal to worship man. No, those events took place before man was created. His fall was due to his pride as a result of his great beauty. He started to trace out the path to immortality; a light that was reserved for another. As a result of this, his own light became corrupted.

Also, at no point where angels given opportunity to redeem man. The substance of their make-up makes it impossible for them to do so. They were never created in the image of God, so they couldn't by death and resurrection redeem man into becoming the express image.

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by sacx: 2:42pm On Nov 03, 2019
Neddstark:
Man above angels? This is not biblically true. Bible says God created man a little lower than angels

Do you know that Jesus in his present estate is still a man?

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Bahddo(m): 2:42pm On Nov 03, 2019
Abcruz:


The original Greek word that was transcribed as angels in Hebrew 2:7 was actually "Elohim (God)". However, man ought not to think more highly of himself.
stop lying. Elohim is a Hebrew word that wasn't used at all in the New Testament. Hebrew 2:7 contains 'angelos', not even 'Theos'.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Napsterworld(m): 2:42pm On Nov 03, 2019
Jesus Christ my saviour..

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Abcruz(m): 2:45pm On Nov 03, 2019
Bahddo:
stop lying. Elohim is a Hebrew word that wasn't used at all in the New Testament. Hebrew 2:7 contains 'angelos', not even 'Theos'.

I meant the original Greek manuscript that was used in biblical translation. A little research may clear your doubts.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Bahddo(m): 2:54pm On Nov 03, 2019
Abcruz:


I meant the original Greek manuscript that was used in biblical translation. A little research may clear your doubts.
Elohim is not Greek, oga. If you say the Greek translation (Septuagint) of the Old testament (which was written in Hebrew and Aramaic) sometimes used 'angelos' for the plural form of 'Elohim', I'd agree. But if you say Hebrew 2:7 contained 'Elohim', you are lying.

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Nobody: 2:56pm On Nov 03, 2019
JESUS IS LORD. THANK YOU JESUS FOR DYING TO REDEEM US. JESUS LOVES US. THANK JEHOVAH GOD FOR GIVING US A CHANCE YOUR LOVE IS GREATEST

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by ideatoprince18(m): 2:57pm On Nov 03, 2019
Bmedels26:
SHUT UP!!
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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Abcruz(m): 2:57pm On Nov 03, 2019
Bahddo:
Elohim is not Greek, oga. If you say the Greek translation (Septuagint) of the Old testament (which was written in Hebrew and Aramaic) sometimes used 'angelos' for the plural form of 'Elohim', I'd agree. But if you say Hebrew 2:7 contained 'Elohim', you are lying.

OK.
I have made my point, this is your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Next0: 3:00pm On Nov 03, 2019
Thank you Jesus for saving me and making me who I am today[b]Thank you Jesus for saving me and making me who I am today[/b]Thank you Jesus for saving me and making me who I am today

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by dinomcjohn: 3:03pm On Nov 03, 2019
All I want to say now is "" To God Almighty, the Creator of the Universe, be all glory forever and ever! " and "Thank you Jesus"

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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Musakunleobi: 3:17pm On Nov 03, 2019
EternalBeing:
Almighty God is truly awesome, a great eternal self-existent, self-sufficient Being far beyond who words could efficiently describe. The size of HIS Creation (Heavens, Earth, the Multiverse, the Universe, the Angels, Humans, Animals, Inanimate things, etc.) is unquantifiable. HIS Wisdom is truly infite, unsearchable and immeasurable.
Quran and Bible agrees that ALMIGHTY GOD created Man from miry clay and chose to elevate Man above all his creation; including the Angels. Angels were made from fire, diamonds, electricity and superior immortal things that we don't even know as humans, while Man was made from miry clay.

Just as we humans have authority over the cloths, cars, computers, air planes, etc. that we manufactured for particular purposes, ALMIGHTY GOD has far more Supreme Authority over all Angels and Humans because HE created us for his desired purposes. YAHWEH's decision to elevate Man above all the Angels led to the Battle (Revelations 12:7) that happened in Heaven which resulted in the demotion of Satan because he refused to bow to Man (you and I) as ALMIGHTY GOD commanded.

Quran even puts it far better, to prostrate is far more submissive than to bow. Quran stated and reiterated this many times with same sentence. Quran 2:34, Quran 20:116, Quran 18:50, Quran 17:61, Quran 7:11,and Quran 2:34 says: "Recall when We said to all Angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam; all prostrated themselves except Satan, he refused." Some other angels refused too, and fell with him by doing so. And the Bible confirms this.

Truly, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, our great Creator, is the Authority over all other authoritie, and nothing that HE desires to do could be stopped. His decision to elevate Man above Angels still came to pass and permanenly eternally established. Bible confirms this in Hebrew 1:6, Deuteronomy 32:43, Revelation 7:11, Revelation 5:1-14; Revelation 19:1-8, etc. Hebrews 1:5-6 "For unto which of the Angels said HE at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? (Non!) And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the Angels of ALMIGHTY GOD worship him.
He didn't just earn that on a platter of gold, He most painfully paid for it. All were given equal opportunity to come and suffer for the World's Sin that they didn't commit, and die for Humanity. But when they saw the terrible horror of the "Cup to be drank", they shudder and ran back. Non of them love us enough to stake their lives and Heaven enjoyments, non of them love humanity enough to down grade to mere mortal to be born in stinking manger, non of them was... They knew that Humanity would be eternally doomed if non of them came down to redeem us back to our Creator, yet they saw us as useless mere mortals that was never worth suffering such excruciating pain for or dying for. I weep as I type this.

Only Jesus Christ HaMashiach(means our Saviour) saw how much YAHWEH ALMIGHTY loves us, only Him loves us as much as our great CREATOR, only Him was unselfish enough to say "I shall go down there to restore them their right to live forever" Yet, some shallow minded humans that are still blinded by Satan would say JESUS does not deserve our Worship. Will you now join me to shout "THANK YOU JESUS!!!" He has proved His eternal loyalty to the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth than any Angel or Human could ever do. So, the Angels in Heaven sang and proclaimed Him worthy and truly deserving of our worship forever. We thank ALMIGHTY GOD for granting Him the Throne beside HIMSELF.

Satan and his demons faught to stop the elevation and enthrnement of Man above them, but it still happened willy-nilly. Hebrew 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?" Non! Except Man, Jesus Christ, who earned His throne beside YAHWEH ALMIGHTY by being loyalty personified! I pity humans that worship Satan, demons or go to herbalists just because of material things and "solutions" in this temporary World. Such people devalue, demote and put themselves under Satan's feet instead of it being vice versa as originally mandated by ALMIGHTY GOD.

Now, let's say "Thank you Jesus!!!" and type several words worship from the depth of our Souls to appreciate our Maker as HE truly deserves. HalleluYAH!!!



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