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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Reofellar: 6:37pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
Were you there? |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by drezzyx(m): 6:45pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
God bless whosoever wrote this... U just make my love for JESUS CHRIST AND GOD THE FATHER INCREASE. I have read so many books online about angels and demons there powers and ranks. There is one thing I came to understand God gave humans free will but the angels don't have that irrespective of their powers and ranks. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Legendguru: 6:45pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Nobody: 6:51pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
drezzyx:bro, angels have free will! But they have no redemptive plan from God like human does! As an angel if you sin or transgress you are cast down immediately unlike man, we sin ask for forgiveness plead the blood of Jesus and we are made clean and standing with God again. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by drezzyx(m): 7:18pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
Tosinex:What are my saying and what are u saying, just that I did not clearly explained it the way u did. If they should transgress as u say they would be cast down and gradually they lose all their powers and become man. Therefore I don't think any of them will want to do that and miss heaven. |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by dazzlingd(m): 7:24pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
hopefulLandlord: Mad people everywhere, Africa is mad....of what benefit is this old baseless myth to the modern world...the rest of the world have long moved on,only a very few still practice this shiit. But here in Africa, these myths has taken over 95% of our discussions |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Iziduhjoseph5(m): 7:29pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
Glory be to God. Amen 4 Likes |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Lagacydrills: 8:02pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
Your theology is mixed up but for clarity the plan of salvation was God's plan for mankind to grow to be like God and God had promise to give us the guidiance and directives to follow to be like him. In the ground council where this plan was brought forth by God to give man the agency to be able to choose from good and bad and for whosoever that follows good will grow and be like God.Lucifer disagreed with the plan for mankind to have the will to do whatever's they want and also grow to be like God and to also be redeemed by the saviour so he rebelled against God without a clue that he was also in the plan of God that God in his infinite wisdom knew that the plan will bring forth a rebellion and in other to win the heart of the council and the 2/3 of heaven the only son of man volunteered to sacrifice him self to give us the gift of attornment and Jesus gave us the Beatitude a step to follow to be like God...matt 5 vs 1:12 EternalBeing: |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Richie0001: 10:23pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
Thank you Jesus 4 Likes |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by arrestdarrester: 10:25pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
This is not the Bible account of the reason for Satan's demotion. Not bowing to man is the Qur'anic account. Wanting to overthrow God was the Bible account 1 Like |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by shadeyinka(m): 10:27pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
EternalBeing: I know that you mean well but you have made a grivous error by mixing the bible with Islam. The bible didn't say anything about the time rebellion too place in heaven. What we know is that 1.the event must have been before the creation of man 2. Sas rebellion wasn't because of man. It as because of ego/pride that entered into Lucifer He thought he knew enough to be God by himself as he was able to convince 1/3 of the angels to follow him 3. Many theologians speculate that the war that resulted destroyed the first universe. (That is why the earth was without form and void before God said, let there be Light) Islam says it was because Iblis (satan) refused to prostrate before Adam. The bible did not insinuate this 1 Like |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Nobody: 10:42pm On Nov 03, 2019 |
Thank you our Lord Saviour Jesus Christ for redeeming me from sins and troubles of life. Jesu Migwor! 4 Likes |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Dickson44: 12:41am On Nov 04, 2019 |
If only he can see that creating man was a great mistake. He should have stayed with his angels and do whatever they have been doing before and not this disaster he created called man. |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Nobody: 1:21am On Nov 04, 2019 |
EternalBeing:this is nonsense If you believe this trash, then you are under satan's deception. Koran is a satanic book inspired by the devil through prophet Mohammed his messager. The bible said the devil is a liar from the beginning and he has his messagers propagating his lies either by propagating pure lies or by mixing it with the truth which the op is clearly doing. He mixed the truth ( the bible) with lies (koran) so that you will be attracted to the lie. He told eve she would not die(lie) but possess knowledge of good and evil ( truth). If the antichrist should appear today over 90% of world population would be decieved, that is because satan is so good at lying that his lies seems to be the truth. Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? The unholy alliance of major world religion has already started with the pope pushing for a one world religion which is a build up to the one world government. The aim is to establish peace, unity and cooperation among men through the unity of thoughts, ideas and religion, a false christ has already been prepared in the spiritual realm to appear at the right time to lead all men to godhood ( worship of lucifer) Lucifer has always desire to be like God from the beginning he is bent on it that he tried to persuade the Son of God himself to worship him. He tries to rob shoulders with God that is why you see his agents trying to equate the word of God to koran or other false religious text. God on the other hand is true, holy and righteous and will never give his glory to another neither his praise to molten images for all that do so are cursed and will end up in the lake of fire with the beast and the false prophets. Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by greenskittles: 2:05am On Nov 04, 2019 |
EternalBeing:Lol |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Seunannointing: 5:40am On Nov 04, 2019 |
Oritsewhandey: Ignorant fellow. What do you know? You learn by learning and not by condemning. Why not take ur time to research based on what I have said. |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Sheunma: 6:00am On Nov 04, 2019 |
MakyavelitheDon:Koran never recognized Jesus as greatest prophet. |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by mainman7(m): 9:12am On Nov 04, 2019 |
GlobalWay:Very true! Down the whole History of humanity, because of greed and desire to accumulate material wealth that we die and leave behind, Satan has been manipulating men to help him gather massive number of souls into Hell. Even those Illuminatis, Roman Catholic and Colonial masters sold their conscience and souls, deleted/removed important parts of God's Scripture to use it as an enslaving tool to get massive wealth that they've now left behind and roasting to ashes in Hellfire. Can their accumulated wealth resurrect them to live forever on the day of judgement? Hope we the currently living have learned that living to please God instead of flesh truly pays. 5 Likes |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Judeudochukwu(m): 10:23am On Nov 04, 2019 |
Why you have spiritual husband or wife:the truth no pastor have told us Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi. Kill her, the pastor said. Let her die and leave. I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask? Can you kill a spirit? Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet? Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free. As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm. Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane. Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man. After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel? Answer! What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you? Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her. No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do? Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes? Of course you will! If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life. This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings. They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings. They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom. Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver. For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being. The image of the gods. Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests. Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind. Why people suffer today! They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all. Wisdom shall judge them! So what is the remedy? this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life. Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done. It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice! We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke. During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back. We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation. When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri). Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good. If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation. This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver. Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today! Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters. : A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity. Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care. This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits. The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path. If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty. One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life. Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil. If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters. The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners. It’s divine It’s a nature mandate! It’s written and can’t be changed. You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it. Who are you to judge? Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant? Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be? How many years do you have to exist here on earth? How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born? Is it why you are here? All these are meant for pastors to answer. People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny. Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table. Judgement await us all! Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them). Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool (ofeke) talk about today. Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite. Don’t be deceived! 08103253857 WhatsApp #Echoesoftruth1.website2.me
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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by TechWows: 10:33am On Nov 04, 2019 |
OyinO:Google is no more a realiable unbiased authority on issues about God. The algorithm now favors Homosexuality, Satanists, Satanism, Philadelphia sexualization of children, Drag Queen stories propanganda, and they are now anti-Christ. From 3 years ago, they prioritize a false story that King James that wrote the Bible is gay in their Search Engine. So, it would be very foolish for humans to put the decision of their eternal Souls in the hands of YouTube, Google, etc. YouTube found flimsy evidences against, and removed a lot of historical and scientific videos that evidently proved the Lordship of Jesus over all. They are focused on discouraging. and preventing as many souls as possible from getting to know God. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by GoodScoNih(m): 10:54am On Nov 04, 2019 |
THANK YOU JESUS for my savour 3 Likes |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by sharpwriter(m): 1:53pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
ibinaboonline: Best comment! More wisdom to you in Jesus name 1 Like |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by sharpwriter(m): 2:13pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
Emyogalanya: Lol... Good concept and summary... I love nairaland |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by phoenix90(m): 2:56pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
King of glory my Lord and my God.... Jesus Christ I worship you ooo. Thanks for the great sacrifice 2 Likes |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by sharpwriter(m): 6:57pm On Nov 04, 2019 |
Dickson44: Lol.... But there was one man that proved that the human project wasn't a disaster after all... That man is Jesus Christ. He became a perfect being before God. And since Jesus overcame the devil... We have been privileged to transform into Jesus's likeness in the resurrection. This is the gospel itself and the Faith. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by ibinaboonline: 7:21pm On Nov 05, 2019 |
Amen sharpwriter: |
Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by Nobody: 2:12am On Nov 06, 2019 |
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Re: How God's Decision To Elevate Man Above Angels Caused The War In Heaven by MakyavelitheDon(m): 11:04am On Nov 11, 2019 |
Sheunma: Be informed. Jesus (Isa) recorded a significant amount of miracles in the Koran and is the only prophet in Islam to be taken up to heaven alive. I'm not speaking opinion but facts about the writings of the Koran |
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