Feminists and neutrals have always been complaining about bias and prejudice towards successful women. They argue that successful women are not well respected as their male counterparts.

Women are not appreciated based on their achievements (Wealth, Career or academic wise). This assertion is not on a general scale. We still have some feared/respected/appreciated women out there.

Personally, when I see a young lady in mini-skirt, suits jacket, high-heels shoe riding an exotic car to her office, I hardly respect them. This mentality of how did she get it sets in. There is this mentality of she must have cut corners using her body. She must have slept with one baba alaye/oga boss in her office etc.
However on the contrary, ladies like that might have got what they have through genuine hustling and ladder-climbing. Is it my fault to think low of her? Not totally my fault.

Life Experience
1. You hardly see any female student who has not slept with a lecturer or school staff to get one favour or the other while in school. While their male counterparts are struggling and burning candles, they are having it easy.

2. These same girls above (1) graduated and get into offices. E.g. There are 2 married ladies in my office in race for promotion. One got promoted twice in the past 2 years. We later discovered she is dating the MD. Her friend/colleague has started dating ED Marketing. They keep patronizing various hotels in Victoria Island. It got to a point when the ED wife came to confront them and created a scene at our office. These ladies makes me fear marriage.

3. A lady was seeking for redeployment to another location. She needed my friend to recommend her (My friend is her boss). She told my friend to name his price. My friend just told her to come to a hotel. She did and they had sex. Viola!
These are some of the reasons why the society rate women based on family they race and not wealth achievement. To them, a woman can easily get rich so far she can open her leg to all. But raising lovely kids and beautiful family is the best achievement a woman can achieve.

Who is really at fault?

Firstly: Mr Op,. that you've come in contact with these ladies does not make you right with your first point. I just graduated, and I see course mates(ladies) who date lecturers and get good grades in return and sometimes money, but this fact does not make it right to say ' you hardly see a lady pass through school without dating a lecturer' .....it's totally wrong dear. In my class alone, more than half of the ladies do not get themselves into this act, only a few do so, and I tell you they're the ones coming out with the best grades. so what does it teach the little girls coming up, that doing bad pays alot, no dulling, right?

so please, try not generalising the whole sleeping around for favors,as it doesn't apply to most ladies.

vikkimimi:
Firstly: Mr Op,. that you've come in contact with this ladies does not make you right with your first point. I just graduated, and I see course mates(ladies) who date lecturers and get good grades in return and sometimes money, but this fact does not make it right to day ' you hardly see a lady pass through school without dating a lecturer' .....it's totally wrong dear. In my class alone, more than half of the ladies do not get themselves into this act, only a few do so, and I tell you they're the ones coming out with the best grades .

so please, try not generalising the whole sleeping around for favors, it doesn't apply to most ladies.

Alright. I agree with you.

If you read the text again you will see where I wrote "Not on a general scale"

proxillin:
Feminists and neutrals have always been complaining about bias and prejudice towards successful women. They argue that successful women are not well respected as their male counterparts.

Women are not appreciated based on their achievements (Wealth, Career or academic wise). This assertion is not on a general scale. We still have some feared/respected/appreciated women out there.

Personally, when I see a young lady in mini-skirt, suits jacket, high-heels shoe riding an exotic car to her office, I hardly respect them. This mentality of how did she get it sets in. There is this mentality of she must have cut corners using her body. She must have slept with one baba alaye/oga boss in her office etc.
However on the contrary, ladies like that might have got what they have through genuine hustling and ladder-climbing. Is it my fault to think low of her? Not totally my fault.

Life Experience
1. You hardly see any female student who has not slept with a lecturer or school staff to get one favour or the other while in school. While their male counterparts are struggling and burning candles, they are having it easy.

2. These same girls above (1) graduated and get into offices. E.g. There are 2 married ladies in my office in race for promotion. One got promoted twice in the past 2 years. We later discovered she is dating the MD. Her friend/colleague has started dating ED Marketing. They keep patronizing various hotels in Victoria Island. It got to a point when the ED wife came to confront them and created a scene at our office. These ladies makes me fear marriage.

3. A lady was seeking for redeployment to another location. She needed my friend to recommend her (My friend is her boss). She told my friend to name his price. My friend just told her to come to a hotel. She did and they had sex. Viola!
These are some of the reasons why the society rate women based on family they race and not wealth achievement. To them, a woman can easily get rich so far she can open her leg to all. But raising lovely kids and beautiful family is the best achievement a woman can achieve.

Who is really at fault?

What of the male students that pay to get good grade?

Korllami007:


What of the male students that pay to get good grade?

A male student is not bold to walk up to a lecturer to offer money.

But a lady who needs mark will intentionally wear cleavage bearing cloth and flash laps to the lecturer.

We know how it works.

proxillin:


A male student is not bold to walk up to a lecturer to offer money.

But a lady who needs mark will intentionally wear cleavage bearing cloth and flash laps to the lecturer.

We know how it works.

Dey dia de drink zobo. When they hears say the lecturer dey collect money, dem go contribute.

Korllami007:


What of the male students that pay to get good grade?

And the ones that worships and becomes lecturer's boys just to gain good grades all through.......it's been this way for long, and the earlier we stop pointing fingers at opposite sex, the better we'll become United and work out a way of reducing or even stopping this in the society.

proxillin:


A male student is not bold to walk up to a lecturer to offer money.

But a lady who needs mark will intentionally wear cleavage bearing cloth and flash laps to the lecturer.

We know how it works.

Mr Op, it seems you're new to the system.
Every money (sorting money) going to lecturers are from the class reps of each level in each department, and these class reps are male students with a female assistant.

Even when a lecturer is threatening to fail a female student if she refuses to come see him, most times they do such communications through the said guy/class rep.

please make research.

vikkimimi:




Mr Op, it seems you're new to the system.
Every money (sorting money) going to lecturers are from the class reps of each level in each department, and these class reps are male students with a female assistant.

Even when a lecturer is threatening to fail a female student if she refuses to come see him, most times they do such communications through the said guy/class rep.

please make research.

I dont need to argue with the both of you. You know what you are doing.

Desperate girls dont contribute kobo kobo thru class rep. You know this but u just wanna argue.

A lady who need Alhaji/Boss favor wont offer money to the already rich Alhaji...

I should go and do research abi...I no go school...abi I no know how we run things back then...

Y'all should keep exposing yourself.

proxillin:


I dont need to argue with the both of you. You know what you are doing.

Desperate girls dont contribute kobo kobo thru class rep. You know this but u just wanna argue.

A lady who need Alhaji/Boss favor wont offer money to the already rich Alhaji...

Y'all should keep exposing yourself.

I aint denying the fact that there are ladies who do what you said, all I'm saying is not all female graduates do this, in fact not up to half...so stop pointing fingers at every successful lady you see.

vikkimimi:



I aint denying the fact that there are ladies who do what you said, all I'm saying is not all female graduates do this, in fact not up to half...so stop pointing fingers at every successful lady you see.

Every Successful lady? I will refer you to my post again "Not on a general scale"

Thank you.

PS: They suddenly want to make it a gender battle again...always the right weapon.
But the truth is, just like politicians, its hard to tell which lady made it genuinely.

proxillin:


Alright. I agree with you.

If you read the text again you will see where I wrote "Not on a general scale"

For my experience of opening threads, even if you put "not on a general scale", "not all", "some", "most" etc. They will act like you generalised. Some will rush to type "what about men/boys? Don't they... also?"

The females that are culpable of these misrepresentation and digression are guilty of what is written in the op. Don't argue with them instead ignore them.

Martinez39:
For my experience of opening threads, even if you put "not on a general scale", "not all", "some", "most" etc. They will act like you generalised. Some will rush to type "what about men/boys? Don't they... also?"

The females that are culpable of these misrepresentation and digression are guilty of what is written in the op. Don't argue with them instead ignore them.

I am really surprised.

proxillin:


I am really surprised.

Start ignoring them.

Emmmm op am a woman and I've never had sex for grades with a lecturer along with most of my female course mates so I don't know how you conducted your survey to come up with what you wrote up there.

Honestly I don't know why most of the threads on the romance section are created by bitter males against females.

Ardar:
Emmmm op am a woman and I've never had sex for grades with a lecturer along with most of my female course mates so I don't how you conducted your survey to come up with what you wrote up there.

Honestly I don't know why most of the threads on the romance section are created by bitter males against females.

Here is quote from my writeup

"However on the contrary, ladies like that might have got what they have through genuine hustling and ladder-climbing"

Action of some ladies has already created a loop hole...

Even the top intelligent/brilliant career ladies in my office are sleeping with MD/Execs... These top women may pass school without sex for mark. But when they get to work environment, they may compromise due to race. They too will see this thread and bash the op as stupid ...as someone who does not know what is saying..whereas they r fully involved in sh1111t.

How do we know who is who? And this is problem why the society is getting it wrong...

proxillin:


Alright. I agree with you.

If you read the text again you will see where I wrote "Not on a general scale"

She will not see it. She will only see generally. She reacted cause she is culprit

Women keep sleeping to get to the top,abeg who are they sleeping with ?Ghosts abi spirits ?Look op i get your point, inside life people use what they have to get what they want, For majority of women its sex.Men pay in different kinds,some female bosses even sexually harass their Male employees sef.Funny if someone tells me i slept my way to the top or to get something, i go tell its not easy to do so,after some olosho dey suffer. Instead of talking to women all the time, tell your fellow men to stop giving jobs meant to, serious people to bimbos cos pussy,Its a dog don't eat dog world out there

proxillin:


Here is quote from my writeup

"However on the contrary, ladies like that might have got what they have through genuine hustling and ladder-climbing"

Action of some ladies has already created a loop hole...

Even the top intelligent/brilliant career ladies in my office are sleeping with MD/Execs... These top women may pass school without sex for mark. But when they get to work environment, they may compromise due to race. They too will see this thread and bash the op as stupid ...as someone who does not know what is saying..whereas they r fully involved in sh1111t.

How do we know who is who? And this is problem why the society is getting it wrong...

Most times when you raise threads like this, all the ladies who reply will tell you am not like that, my friends and the people around me don't do that - then who are the ladies fvcking for God sake?
Where are the cheats we are hearing about everyday? Ghosts?
Abegiiii.
Kosi Obo mo ni idanre, oju ti la and ile ti mo.
No more monkey in idanre, eye don open abeg.

You will be shocked what is happening in relationships even to those who think there gfs or wives are faithful, believ me you will be shocked.
The day my gf opened up to me abt 3 guys dat have bleeped her unknown and unnoticed to me was the day i received the GREATEST SHOCK OF MY LIFE and this is the typical homely, quite, dad's/mum's girl oooo.
Ever since then, my broda i don borrow myself brain.
Right now, i do my best in my relationship but NEVER EXPECTING ANYTHING whether faithfulness ooo or not.
I realized too much expectation is what really make us get betrayed, bitter, frustrated, depressed but when you have zero or no expectations, NOTHING WILL COME AS A SHOCK OR SURPRISE TO YOU AGAIN even if u catch ur gal for bed were dem dey blow her, ko kan aye.

Ardar:
Emmmm op am a woman and I've never had sex for grades with a lecturer along with most of my female course mates so I don't how you conducted your survey to come up with what you wrote up there.

Honestly I don't know why most of the threads on the romance section are created by bitter males against females.

90% of guys on this section are misogynist who have great hate for the female gender
At times I wonder if they do have good relationship with their female relatives

So who do you blame when the balance of power is skewed? The person in the position of power to give grades/jobs or the person that takes advantage when said power is abused by the aforementioned?

In our society, we focus on the wrong people.
If a professor can be seduced by sex/money then he/she shouldn’t be in a position to give/influence grades, abuse of such power should come with very huge consequences. In an organized society a professor can not afford to give in to his/her “konji”, there’s too much at risk for him/her. It would be in his/her best interest to report students who seek to seduce him/her.

The CEO of McDonalds was fired for engaging in a consensual relationship with a subordinate, she wasn’t fired. He earned $21M last year.

When a professor or an employer abuses his/her power, he/she sets off a chain reaction and creates a system where there is mistrust and no integrity.

...

liberalchick:
So who do you blame when the balance of power is skewed? The person in the position of power to give grades/jobs or the person that takes advantage when said power is abused by the aforementioned?

In our society, we focus on the wrong people.
If a professor can be seduced by sex/money then he/she shouldn’t be in a position to give/influence grades, abuse of such power should come with very huge consequences. In an organized society a professor can not afford to give in to his/her “konji”, there’s too much at risk for him/her. It would be in his/her best interest to report students who seek to seduce him/her.

The CEO of McDonalds was fired for engaging in a consensual relationship with a subordinate, she wasn’t fired. He earned $21M last year.

When a professor or an employer abuses his/her power, he/she sets off a chain reaction and creates a system where there is mistrust and no integrity.

Alright I agree with you on most of your points.

But it will still not override some facts.

For example...a female colleague that was employed the same month I was employed got promoted twice in 2 years. And its a rule in my company that :
1. Promotion comes every 2 years. They broke the rule because of her.
2. U have to score 3.0 above in appraisal. She didnt make 3.0. They broke the rule because of her

Her promotion caused serious fight between the management and HR because HR could not defend her promotion to external auditors...

All these happened due to sex.

Yes, SOme Bosses/lecturers pressure or intentionally undermine ladies so they can have sex with them.

Let me ask, is the MD putting her on pressure for promotion? No...she offered her body to dubiously get what she is not entitled to.
As a man, I wish I could be able to get promoted every year. But our MD is not gay, so what do I have to offer? Hardwork and pray

Rukkydelta:


90% of guys on this section are misogynist who have great hate for the female gender
At times I wonder if they do have good relationship with their female relatives

Be open minded..this is not gender war...These are facts

joyberry:
Women keep sleeping to get to the top,abeg who are they sleeping with ?Ghosts abi spirits ?Look op i get your point, inside life people use what they have to get what they want, For majority of women its sex.Men pay in different kinds,some female bosses even sexually harass their Male employees sef.Funny if someone tells me i slept my way to the top or to get something, i go tell its not easy to do so,after some olosho dey suffer. Instead of talking to women all the time, tell your fellow men to stop giving jobs meant to, serious people to bimbos cos pussy,Its a dog don't eat dog world out there

Who is this Joyberry...I love her

Rukkydelta:


90% of guys on this section are misogynist who have great hate for the female gender
At times I wonder if they do have good relationship with their female relatives

i tell u my own,im a graduate,a footballer as careeri supported my gf to go study and write and exam wit her cousin's family a state away so she will be useful and be an elegant woman too...she and d cousin romanced and smooched each other twice b4 she came back,i found out through a sound recorder cos she changed.....i was down for weeks....now tell me y i will support any woman to be great....d topic is under my profile

liberalchick:
So who do you blame when the balance of power is skewed? The person in the position of power to give grades/jobs or the person that takes advantage when said power is abused by the aforementioned?

In our society, we focus on the wrong people.
If a professor can be seduced by sex/money then he/she shouldn’t be in a position to give/influence grades, abuse of such power should come with very huge consequences. In an organized society a professor can not afford to give in to his/her “konji”, there’s too much at risk for him/her. It would be in his/her best interest to report students who seek to seduce him/her.

The CEO of McDonalds was fired for engaging in a consensual relationship with a subordinate, she wasn’t fired. He earned $21M last year.

When a professor or an employer abuses his/her power, he/she sets off a chain reaction and creates a system where there is mistrust and no integrity.

Consensual relationship? You mean dating or demanding sex for favors? I don't see anything wrong with the CEO and subordinate relationship if it was mutual dating,but if he made it influence her job it is bad or if she decided to quit and he was harassing her at work is bad. My sister married her boss,they met at work,started dating and the rest is history...

As the owner of an organization,if my employer and his employee start a mutual relationship within the confides of the law and it doesn't pose a threat to my organization, is not my business.

If he proposes sex to her in exchange for any favor,he will be sacked.
If she proposes sex to him in other to gain favors,she will be sacked.

Infact any transactional sex in my organization will be severely punished and the parties involved dismissed except off course it is the case of one party trying to force or manipulate the other into it then only that party be dismissed.
The issue here is that moral decadence has no place in my company by whomsoever.
The alibi used for male bosses is that since the lady agreed to transactional sex then its mutual,and no longer harassment, this ideology is wrong! Conceiving something unethical itself is wrong! The lady may have yielded for fear or intimidation.
The alibi used for female employees that demand sex for favors is that the bosses had the right to say no,they talk of power dynamic in play but conceiving and proposing such unethical thing is wrong. Its just like saying that someone bribing his/,her way to get something is not wrong since the recipient of the bribe "has the power to say NO".
Are things considered lawful because the perpetrator are less powerful than the recipients??

It's wrong in every angle. You sister dated her boss doesn't make it right because there would be favoritism.

Someone will be working diligently in a company for 5 or more years won't get single promotion but a lady will be employed and within six months, she will be promoted because she's dating GM.
Or CEO will be going on a business trip and instead of him to choose someone competent to go with him and that person will gain a lot from the trip that will benefit him and the company but no, he will choose his girlfriend in the company, even if what they are going there to do is not in her field, he will choose her with the reason that he won't lack p*ssy while on journey.

I don't think you sister told you how her relationship with her boss had been detrimental to other people working in the same company but you are telling us that they got married.

Your sister finally got married to her boss doesn't justify the action being morally right or someone that does it comes from your family.

Michellekabod2:

Are things considered lawful because the perpetrator are less powerful than the recipients??

It’s not a crime for two adults to engage in a consensual relationship, meaning the superior won’t go to jail.

However, the rules change in an office setting because:

1. Is it really consensual? How do we know the subordinate didn’t say yes because he/she fears retaliation.
2. Resentment by other co-workers- real or imagined favoritism.
3. When the relationship turns sour, in countries that have sexual harassment laws, the subordinate can sue the company for sexual harassment.

liberalchick:


It’s not a crime for two adults to engage in a consensual relationship, meaning the superior won’t go to jail.

However, the rules change in an office setting because:

1. Is it really consensual? How do we know the subordinate didn’t say yes because he/she fears retaliation.
2. Resentment by other co-workers- real or imagined favoritism.
3. When the relationship turns soar, in countries that have sexual harassment laws, the subordinate can sue the company for sexual harassment.

OK for point one and two I guess an ad hoc committee fully investigate the nature,reason et al ...thorough investigation should be made so innocent men/women don't have their career jeopardized.
There is a possibility of the lady consenting to it because of fear. There could also be a possibility of the lady lying it was consensual as a way of punishing him if for example he cheated on her or left her for another lady .
I can't imagine going to jail because I fell in love with my worker,we start dating,and things go sour(break up)... Break up or mishaps are couple things,so should my company be sued when such occurs? I guess there should be thorough investigation concerning this issues.

On the safe side I advice males to avoid dating their subordinates to avoid issues that may arise since they are at the disadvantage if things go wrong.

Michellekabod2:

On the safe side I advice males to avoid dating their subordinates to avoid issues that may arise since they are at the disadvantage if things go wrong.

Exactly! Not only males, females too. Another option is for the subordinate to transfer to another department where the superior has no jurisdiction.