₦airaland Forum

Area4Area:
Why didn't our leaders then push for the abolishing of the republic before independence when leaders from other regions were suggesting same to Zik? What were other Igbo politicians saying and what was the man on the street saying too? Go and get the Biafra na let us see.

gidgiddy:
The funny thing is that someone will look at that list and wonder why Igbos cant see the beauty of "one Nigeria"

etrouble:
We your oppressors are not asking you to see the beauty of One Nigeria, rather, we are forcing you into One Nigeria. You are a conquered people and you have no choice than to do what we ask you to. If you overstep your boundary and pick up arms against the federal republic, we will repeat the 1967 to 1970 Xmas party..

IGBOSON1:
On the contrary....the eternally shameless ones are you and your ilk that see white and call it black!

As per this your daft post....you’re waffling mate!

Assuming for the sake of argument, we agree with you assertion that Zik has the overbearing power to insert a no referendum clause in the constitution, despite the protestations of the other two regions whose combined votes would cancel out that of the Eastern Region....if we go along with this lame argument, are you saying the constitution they all finally agreed upon was all about ‘secession clause’ or ‘no secession clause’? You mean your not aware of the federalist nature of the constitution which has been jettisoned today?

Your problem is that you cherry-pick little sections of the argument that suit your ‘blame Zik at all costs for all our woes’ narrative while ignoring the entire picture that you know would tell a different story!

richie240:
U already know ipob and lies/propaganda are 5 and 6.
Sm1 will just wake up and cook up (unverified) figures.

ChiSomtoChi:
Children of hate afonjas. The figures are correct.

Front0lane:
At the bold, isn't that what you Igbos are renowned for or you assumed foolishly only you owns the monopoly to that ?
You are not an intelligent individual cos if you are you should understand another pathetic Igbo destroyed every act of regionalism to enforce
his evil doctrine of unitary govt. We are lucky we have this disjointed federalism, the foolishness of your tribesmen forced on us all.

richie240:
Thou chyde of hate, bile and perdition! (HBP), mechionu dia!
Who did d counting? You, the op or ipob bureau of statistics (IBS)?

richie240:
Thou chyde of hate, bile and perdition! (HBP), mechionu dia!
Who did d counting? You, the op or ipob bureau of statistics (IBS)?

ChiSomtoChi:
Afonjas and ignorance. Igbos didn't make those numbers. It was Irish men who came to BIAFRA

gidgiddy:
It is not possible for one man to decide what was included in the constitution or not. How is it possible that Zik determined that secession clause would not be in the constitution when he had only one vote? That is simply not possible. Zik may have been against secession clause, but it is wrong to say it was him that stopped it. The constitutional conference of 1958 was peopled by the representatives of the various ethnic groups and they decided and voted on the constitution.

Tobichimezie:
So let me get something straight here, the argument by here is that Zik (A SINGLE MAN) all by himself decided the secession clause and thus the destiny of the whole Nigeria just by himself? wow! Zik must have been some super man who wielded unquestionable power... so the pertinent question now is, if Zik single-handedly abrogated the secession clause at the time...what were the other regional leaders doing, sleeping? what were Yorubas, Hausas and the rest of Nigerians doing while one man decided their political future?... either Zik was too powerful, too smart, or maybe the rest of Nigerians were just moping idiots who allowed one man take them on a long ride.

gidgiddy:
It's one of the many lies of Lagos/Ibadan expressway media. It is not possible for one man alone to decide what enters a constitution in a democracy

ChiSomtoChi:
Children of hate afonjas. The figures are correct.

Area4Area:
Azikiwe was doing the biddings of the British who were in control and threatened leaders from other regions with treason and imprisonment and you know same Brits were in charge, Awolowo was imprisoned by the Brits at the instance of Zik at a point.

Zik is a very myopic and useless person, only wanted to be the leader of the largest black nation on earth.

ezenwajosh:
And some kid was asking why ojukwu went for war

Well ojukwu didn't went for war...he only couldn't continue to bear the killing of his people as if they are not part of Nigeria and he meet with elders and they option for secession then war was brought to him and his people

Tobichimezie:
Now you've changed the narrative, the new angle or plot twist is that the British gave Zik complete control to determine the political future of Nigeria (if that's what I'm getting from your angle of logic)... [b]Don't you see how stupid you sound? [/b]it's bad enough that you lack the cognitive ability or education to understand how constitional amendments work especially in the First republic where democracy was at its best, but you keep digging more holes only to end up sounding half smart at best.

Can you provide researched and verifiable facts that the British threatened imprisonment and treason for failing to do the bidding of Zik, and even if that's the case... isn't it on historical record that the British were more pro-North throughout the Pre and Post independence era? So wouldn't it have made more sense that any amendments to the secession clause Zik made before independence would have had some degree of collaboration and consequencetly majority acceptance from the North and other regions?

Ok let's agree with your line of discourse (idiotic as it sounds) that the British gave Zik all the power, what happened when the British left us an independent nation in 1960? Why didn't anything change? or was Zik still too powerful than the other regional leaders couldn't do sh*t against one man even after the colonial masters had long left?

Dude stop making a utter fool of yourself, do yourself a favor and save us the buffonery by reading more for fucck sake SMH.

Area4Area:
Ojukwu wanted war and he had it, nobody brought war to him.
His over bloated ego brought the war, Isaac Boroh had earlier suffered what Ojukwu suffered later and heaven didn't fall.

Ojukwu knew the consequences of his action because he helped in stopping the secession of another group some months before

Area4Area:
The bolded will not be tolerated next time, state your point and move on.

Tobichimezie:
This mo.ron doesn't know or perhaps is too intellectually lazy to research on facts before blubbering like a low IQ nonce. Are you aware the North were the first to push for secession under the "Araba" mantra(read up about it) before they were dissuaded against it by the British? why didn't the rest of Nigeria find a problem with the North pushing for secession? Oh let me guess... because you cowards were scared of challenging them against seceding. Why suddenly did it become a problem when the East under Ojukwu who had a far more justifiable reason to secede (considering that millions of innocent Easterners have been savagely massacred all over the Nigeria) and also the fact that Gowon reneged on the Aburi accord(which he initially agreed on)... which side fired the first shot that ignited the war- the East?

Dude I lose brain cells every time I read your trash, just save me the pain and stop infesting my sight with your stupidity any more, I take God beg you!

Tobichimezie:
Not my fault you're ignorantly daft, lethal combination right there mate.

Area4Area:
When did the Araba protests start and who was the head of state? Stop the insults

Tobichimezie:
Araba means "separation" in Hausa, and it was as the name implies a codename for secession by the North, aptly led by Murtala Muhammed himself... and Gowon was the Head of State (albeit in controversial circumstances) at the time.

Area4Area:
Lol, as if I'm just hearing the word for the first time, tell us when the Araba protests started and when the then head of state was assassinated

Tobichimezie:
I'm not here to spoonfeed you, go on the internet and read about the sequence of events that led to the North pushing for secession FIRST, after Ironsi had been murdered, and also why they wanted out.

The reason I brought up the discourse in the first place, was to point out how defiantly stupid you were with your lame arguments about Ojukwu causing the war blah blah blah.

duncun:
Once you sip your fura, your concoctions will hit high gear.

Pre-colonial activities upto Nigeria independence shows how britain worked hard to elevate the north and leave power in their hands.
Zik and awolowo couldn't do nada, the same way southern politicians can't even challenge the 1999 Abdulsalami decree called constitution.

Your lies and propaganda won't help you to bring Igbo morale down, even in a thousand years.

duncun:
All of sudden Yyeske cannot surf the Internet . You claimed you've heard the word before which assent to you being aware of the events. Do I sense someone losing thrust?

duncun:
Stop behaving like you can't do without fura, Britain's Pre-colonial activities was geared towards rewarding the north for their activities during slavery.

Everything was in accordance with the brits plan both the fake population census and political machinery. So you can't blame Zik or awolowo for aligning with the north(brits interest) which their offsprings still do till today .

I know you will use your mod power to hide this post as you always do.