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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by luluman: 12:15pm On Oct 07, 2019
Binikingdowm:
What about a Benin man or Ibibio man or tiv person? Must it always be hausa-yoruba-igbo?
maybe others are not recognised .
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by tealaw(m): 2:27pm On Oct 07, 2019
The capacity of the igbos to lead is similar to Edwin Clark's face. Jagajaga.

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by Dareal90s(m): 4:17pm On Oct 07, 2019
Ttipsy:
look at how your brain works...... What's the essence of using The military, tagging an operation python dance on people, if you and Mr Buhari isn't shivering about ipob moves. Shame
Coz the military will smack u well, moreover u boasted of fighting the zoo soldiers nw, then we give u an avenue to showcase ur bravery.
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by Florian90: 7:07am On Oct 17, 2019
Ttipsy:
character indeed Mr buhari's rapit Northern appointments are on the pmanifesto and character abi abi abiii
you don't get me, buhari is the worst thing that has happened to Nigeria,what I am saying is if we keep voting for our kinsmen as leaders, when they begin to fail we tend to overlook. That is why the fulanis and the hausas are still supporting him. Last election I would have preferred moghalu or sowore, besides Nigeria is not the only country blessed with many tribes .
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by mercyville: 7:57am On Oct 17, 2019
mrvitalis:
Chief Edwin Clark, a nationalist who served under former Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon, as Federal Commissioner for Information, in this interview, speaks on the need for true federalism and why zoning of the nation’s presidency is paramount among other issues. Excerpts:

[/b]Let us talk about the state of the nation…
[b]

Things are very bad but we thank God that we are surviving and we remain united. The challenges are however many. Today, the country seems to be divided religiously and ethnically despite the fact that we all talk about unity. Security challenge is growing. The situation has not been effectively controlled. About four years ago, we were talking about Boko Haram in the North-East, and we felt that, with the promise made by the ruling party for ‘change’ and having the country being headed by a former military Head of State, Boko Haram would be a thing of the past. But, today, Boko Haram is still a problem. And apart from Boko Haram, we can see what is going on in the North-West, especially in Sokoto and Katsina. People are being killed, maimed and kidnapped. In Taraba, Plateau and Benue states, the situation is not different. We have, today, in the South, herdsmen ransacking everywhere, harassing maiming, kidnapping and raping women. Things are not normal.

[/b]Is this the Nigeria our heroes past foresaw when they fought for independence?[b]

I will say no because in the First Republic, even though we had some problems, the unity of Nigeria was very much guaranteed. During the pre-independence era, we were working together until 1953 when Tony Enahoro moved the motion for the independence of Nigeria and the Northern Region walked out of parliament. The British government invited Nigerian leaders to London for the 1954 and 1957 conferences and so on which led us to independence in 1960. During the period, there was peace and each of the regions was developing at its own pace while revenue allocation was based on what you produced in your area. You keep 50 percent of the allocation while the remaining 50 percent goes to the Federal Government. And of the 50 percent that goes to the Federal Government, 20 percent is kept by the Federal Government while the remaining 30 percent is shared among other regions. Until 1963 when the Mid-West Region was created, each of the regions had its own Constitution and Agent General in London. Today, you find that one of the houses acquired by the Western Nigerian government in those days is part of the Nigeria High Commission in London. Then, there was neither envy nor hatred. Both Muslims and Christians were living in peace and harmony. But when the Army struck, problem started. Then General Gowon came into power in 1966 and there was problem. The killing of prominent Nigerian politicians resulted into the counter-coup of July 1966, leading to the Aburi Accord in 1967 which did not materialise. General Gowon created 12 states after the civil war. So, today, we have 36 states including the Federal Capital. Perhaps, those who fought for independence in 1960 when we got it never envisaged that, 59 years after, Nigeria will still be so much divided and there would be many challenges. Now there is hunger; unemployment has risen to 23 percent; Fulani herdsmen carry AK 47 around and we were told they are from Libya, Burkina Faso and Mali among others and these people have been allowed to come into Nigeria untouched. The next thing we heard was that they wanted RUGA in the 36 states of the federation, meaning that these Fulani herdsmen would now be settled in the 36 states. Nigerians kicked against it, and it was suspended; but we hope it would be suspended forever because it could divide this country

[/b]What then are the chances of the South-West in 2023?[b]

They should stop thinking of becoming the President of Nigeria. What does Tinubu have to offer that the people of the South-East cannot offer? What is the justification for them to become the President of Nigeria? Is it because they belong to the APC? They should not be thinking of how to divide Nigeria. We must all unite and have respect for ourselves. The South-West should allow other people to have a taste of power. There is no way the South-West would be better than the South-East on the 2023 presidency.

[/b]What is the way forward?[b]

Let us practice true federalism in this country. Let every Nigerian have a sense of belonging. Without restructuring, the future is bleak. You remember the other day Mr. President said ‘if we do not kill corruption, corruption will kill us’. I also believe that if we do not restructure this country, non-restructuring of Nigeria will kill Nigeria. In a situation where some people feel they are superior to others, we don’t have a country. Nobody wants to be a slave to another person. Let the elders of the country meet from time to time to discuss the challenges of Nigeria. Like former President Olusegun Obasanjo, I have advocated that all stakeholders, including youths and women, have a roundtable to discuss the security of this country. What is happening in the North-East and North-West should not be regarded as a northern affair but a Nigerian affair because, sooner or later, it will happen to all of us.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/10/zoning-row-steer-clear-of-2023-presidency-for-igbo-clark-warns-yoruba-north/



Today, you find that one of the houses acquired by the Western Nigerian government in those days is part of the Nigeria High Commission in London. Then, there was neither envy nor hatred. Both Muslims and Christians were living in peace and harmony. But when the Army struck, problem started. Then General Gowon came into power in 1966 and there was problem. The killing of prominent Nigerian politicians
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 7:57am On Dec 07, 2019
This guy is just very funny.

1) How will the SW nominate 5 Igbo candidates they like to be president?

Will these five candidates be announced by the Alaafin (the Emperor), the Ooni (The Priest-King), Gen Obasanjo (The Soldier) or OPC (a socio-cultural organization)?

2) Political parties and NOT Tribes contest elections in Nigeria and they chose the candidates that they think can win the elections for the parties.




mrvitalis:

The funny thing your likes don't understand is ...without zoning a southerner can't rule nigeria

So your hate for Igbo's should not cloud your reason ....south west have ruled ,south south have
Its only natural they support south east as south east supported them

The thing now should be which Igbo would south west n south south be comfortable with that should be the argument

I'm of the opinion south west n south south should nominate 5 names they are comfortable with
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by mrvitalis(m): 8:00am On Dec 07, 2019
oyatz:
This guy is just very funny.

1) How will the SW nominate 5 Igbo candidates they like to be president?

Will these five candidates be announced by the Alaafin (the Emperor), the Ooni (The Priest-King), Gen Obasanjo (The Soldier) or OPC (a socio-cultural organization)?

2) Political parties and NOT Tribes contest elections in Nigeria and they chose the candidates that they think can win the elections for the parties.




Watch north rule for ever
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 8:34am On Dec 07, 2019
Why crying more than the bereaved?

It's the SW that will be betrayed and not your Geo-political zone,why are you unduly apprehensive about this?





mrvitalis:
When I told south west that south south won't support their ambition they said delta n Edo would I laugh this is a deltan

Now 2 zones are out so if north betray the south west who do they fall to ?
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 8:37am On Dec 07, 2019
Empty threat.

No Empire rule forever.

The Mighty Roman Empire, the Rushidum Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, the Mongol Empire in all their Glories had expiry dates with Destiny.





mrvitalis:

Watch north rule for ever
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 8:48am On Dec 07, 2019
The problem with this is that:

1) You can NOT use the threat of secession to blackmail other Nigerians to give you the presidency.

2) You can't force all parties to pick only Igbo candidates for the Presidency. Each Political party is different and they have different areas of strength. They pick candidates that they think command widespread acceptability and can win the presidential election for them.


3) On a personal note, the second point above would have been easier to get igbos to the presidency if we are still practicing one dominant and many weak parties system.


4) It would have been easier to mount pressure on the PDP leadership to give it's Presidential ticket to an Igbo candidate and they will win. All these changed with the emergence of another strong political party, the APC in 2014.


Adaibeku:














All political party or we secede ..

I am loving this , u yorubas can join fulanis to fight us back to zoogeria grin


Is me ur Devil

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by mrvitalis(m): 8:59am On Dec 07, 2019
oyatz:
Empty threat.

No Empire rule forever.

The Mighty Roman Empire, the Rushidum Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, the Mongol Empire in all their Glories had expiry dates with Destiny.





Surely Igbo's can't wait for the fall
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by mrvitalis(m): 9:04am On Dec 07, 2019
oyatz:
Why crying more than the bereaved?

It's the SW that will be betrayed and not your Geo-political zone,why are you unduly apprehensive about this?





So u don't know the difference between talking and crying
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 9:55am On Dec 07, 2019
Nobody is denying Igbos anything,let alone the presidency.
Nigerian citizens are aspiring for the topmost post in their country through democratic means and you are calling it greed because you feel you can't compete in the presidential race?

In 2023, let Atiku, Tunde Bakare, Osinbajo, El-Rufai, Tinubu , Tambuwal and my humble self contest for the Presidency.

You can seat behind keyboards and be shouting 'it is our turn'.



kettykin:


the painful thing is that this stupid satanic greed us being spearheaded by yoruba pastors tunde bakare and Osinbajo. It is yoruba pastors that are fighting themselves to death to deny igbos the opportunity to produce the presidency.

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 9:57am On Dec 07, 2019
I used to think you are educated enough to know a common English idiomatic expression.

I was wrong!



mrvitalis:

So u don't know the difference between talking and crying
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 10:01am On Dec 07, 2019
Don't mind them sir.

They always assume they are smarter than all other Nigerians.




QuotaSystem:


Wow. Biafrans are suddenly preaching national unity of a "shithole" shocked

Just because of presidency they said they don't need because it never benefited others.

But a bird whispered that it should not be seen as unity begging wink

Cc: Omenka, NgeneNkwenu, Itsmeaboki, candid talk, caseless, kingofalligbos

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 10:22am On Dec 07, 2019
Unfortunately you have been wanting that for long and it hasn't materialized and it's not going to materialized in the nearest future.







Honestly, I wonder if you guys ever seat down and do a thorough soul searching.



You are the only people in the world who seriously desire to be given the presidency and at the same time also wanting to destroy the same country.

You are the only people who call people derogatory names and still want these same people to make you their president.
Who does that?



Adaibeku:












As if e concern me ,all I want is see ur precious country cease to exist
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 10:42am On Dec 07, 2019
If you are not cleaver by half, you would have known that there was NEVER a presidential primaries in this country in which ONLY one Tribe/Geo-political zone participated.

In 1999, Obasanjo only emerged the presidential candidate for the PDP after defeating Alex Ekwueme, Jim Nwobodo, Don Etiebet, Philip Asiodu, Graham-Douglas.

In the APP, Dr Ogbonaya Onu, Ikemba Odumegwu-Ojukwu, Gabriel Onosode and Dr Olusola Saraki particicipated before their primary was aborted for a consensus candidate in Kaduna.

For the 2019 PDP presidential ticket, Dr Bukola Saraki, Sule Lamido, Gov Aminu Tambuwal, Kwankwanso and Atiku slugged it out.


Malawian:

1999 election saw two Yoruba candidate as a national consensus. 2019 elections saw two northern candidates as a national consensus. But when it comes to Igbo's, parade go change gear.

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 10:54am On Dec 07, 2019
The first thing you need is to have a STRONG IGBO CANDIDATE that you can rally round to win the presidential primaries of APC or PDP before asking ordinary Nigerians to support the candidate(s)


wingmanIII:


Forget that crap! You also have very dedicated and committed Igbo APC members.
Anybody who loves this country should support balance and fair play.
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 11:28am On Dec 07, 2019
And when you have some disadvantages, becareful how you wail, throw tantrums, stirring hostilities towards others out of the frustrations and callinging other people names. Nothing last forever, you may need their help to overcome these disadvantages.





wingmanIII:


When you have some advantage, be careful how you use or apply it. Nothing lasts forever!
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 11:35am On Dec 07, 2019
This is funny sir.

Think about it slowly, you are calling some people derogatory names and you expect undiluted love from them to the extent that they will make you their ruler?



Ttipsy:
wee you and other hateful sentimental minded Nigerians give them the chance and support?? that's the question
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 11:51am On Dec 07, 2019
There are very intelligent and resourceful Igbo men that can be good presidents.

However, they aren't contesting out of the fear that they will lose. You can't become president if you don't contest.

It's better you encourage Moghalu and others to contest for the tickets of their parties.



Ttipsy:
the previous YPP presidential aspirant, isn't he Igbo?? moghalu the current Boss of National waterways. there are more intellects of SE origin. Igbos deserve a chance to be president of Nigeria today, the North and the West has tried, we've seen their achievements, now let's allow for SE zone presidency irrespective of Party Affiliation. Party is irrelevant when it come to fishing out a competent candidate
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 11:58am On Dec 07, 2019
Do you also know that you can only call an individual backstabber, coward or a betrayer but not a whole ethnic group?



Ojiofor:


Soif there will be no Yoruba president where will the president come from since it will probably go back to North?
At bolded.Stop deceiving yourself.You can only trust an individual not a group of people.
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 12:17pm On Dec 07, 2019
The PDP hierrachy are not fools. They know that if they give their presidential ticket to the SE in 2023, they have already lost before the election start.

No party want to lose so easily and willingly.




omenka:
One doesnt have to be CREATIVE with the TRUTH and FACTS. They've got to be stated as bluntly as possible.

I ask again, WHY IS PDP TREATING NDIGBO WITH SUCH HATRED AFTER THEIR TWENTY YEARS OF UNPARALLELED LOYALTY TO THE PARTY?

Igbos deserve the PRESIDENTIAL TICKET OF THE PARTY THEY'VE WORKED SO HARD FOR, they should be given it!
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by Ojiofor: 12:59pm On Dec 07, 2019
oyatz:
Do you also know that you can only call an individual backstabber, coward or a betrayer but not a whole ethnic group?




Maybe!
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 8:00pm On Dec 07, 2019
You don't get it.

The parties will not gamble with a candidate that will guarantee their losses.




joshuanwankwo:


under both just like 1999 both parties field southwesterners (falae and obasanjo) 2007 both parties field north westerners (buhari and yar adua) so 2023 southeastern turn shouldn't be any different cos we re igbos by the way re u not aware that wen apc and pdp choose southeasterners our minds wuld be at rest unlike an igbo v another tribe, there is chance another tribe can get d position and apc shouldn't complain of members

apc should choose okorocha and pdp should choose ekeremadu dat way it wuld be a thing of ease to southeasterners
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 8:04pm On Dec 07, 2019
The attempts by Igbo people like you especially in Lagos to turn Tinubu to a hate figure create a seige scenerio in the minds of many Yorubas. It will only make more Yorubas to close ranks and rally round behind Tinubu.



nku5:


That's the last thing Tinubu and his touts want. Without the divide Tinubu would be irrelevant
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by oyatz(m): 8:17pm On Dec 07, 2019
And why not?

I thought you people are sponsoring Atiku orTambuwal in 2023?
Leave the Yorubas to pursue their political ambition.



kikake:
But why would a normal Yoruba scheme to succeed PMB after Yoruba ruled for 8 years since 1999?
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by adekolaelect(m): 8:33pm On Dec 07, 2019
mrvitalis:

The funny thing your likes don't understand is ...without zoning a southerner can't rule nigeria

So your hate for Igbo's should not cloud your reason ....south west have ruled ,south south have
Its only natural they support south east as south east supported them

The thing now should be which Igbo would south west n south south be comfortable with that should be the argument

I'm of the opinion south west n south south should nominate 5 names they are comfortable with
park well so you want afanja to rescue you now when you know you can't achieve alone ? See where you meet yourselves now .you now want afanja to do the same thing we did for Buhari that made you call us differents shot of names?OYO is where you are .fight for your own political power is not Traditional power that they will come and give you @home.you failed to infest in politic by building bridge for your political surviver what you know best is insult and hate .you that don't believe in one Nigeria want to rule? You need to go back to your drawing board and fix out what you want.
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by TheApologist: 10:46pm On Dec 07, 2019
I don't seem to get this; while I am not opposed to Igbo presidency, the obvious truth is that it's way out of order to ever expect nomination of an Igbo candidate by the APC-a party you reserve so much contempt for. I'm not a party person but I do understand it's highly hypocritical to expect rewards without making efforts. If this demand is being made from the PDP, then I can relate; Igbos have sure unparalleled loyalty to the party even with some obviously non-performing governors. I'm only irked by the idea of insisting the APC has to field an Igbo candidate is just way out of order because that is what these rants are all about.

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by Nobody: 9:02am On Dec 08, 2019
omenka:
One doesnt have to be CREATIVE with the TRUTH and FACTS. They've got to be stated as bluntly as possible.

I ask again, WHY IS PDP TREATING NDIGBO WITH SUCH HATRED AFTER THEIR TWENTY YEARS OF UNPARALLELED LOYALTY TO THE PARTY?

Igbos deserve the PRESIDENTIAL TICKET OF THE PARTY THEY'VE WORKED SO HARD FOR, they should be given it!

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Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by Area4Area: 11:47am On Dec 08, 2019
oyatz:
This guy is just very funny.

1) How will the SW nominate 5 Igbo candidates they like to be president?

Will these five candidates be announced by the Alaafin (the Emperor), the Ooni (The Priest-King), Gen Obasanjo (The Soldier) or OPC (a socio-cultural organization)?

2) Political parties and NOT Tribes contest elections in Nigeria and they chose the candidates that they think can win the elections for the parties.




In fact when I read that post, how it's natural for the SW and SS to support the SE and they should nominate 5 people from the SE of their choice, I just started laughing because it's obvious that the person behind that moniker reasons like a kid. I mean see him ordering people around, he cannot nominate the 5 persons but wants others to do it for him.
Re: Edwin Clark Warns Yoruba, North: Steer Clear Of 2023 Presidency For Igbo by Area4Area: 11:48am On Dec 08, 2019
mrvitalis:

Watch north rule for ever
SE will never rule again

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