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I have never seen anywhere in the Bible where tithing was done in cash. Before you start claiming there was no money that time. Please go and read Deuteronomy 14 from 22 up.

loswhite:
So why do you complain about buhari since it is not your business how they spend your taxes? Why don't you leave it to God to judge....clowns

Chaeiii......i salute this post.

Thanks.

God bless.

Those pastors are fixated on Malachi they never preach about Deuteronomy.

YungJo207:
Reading and learning but I ask this...why is it that most Christian in Africa always pay tithe but find it hard to give?

Why is it that most Muslim don't tithe and find it easy to give?

Why do they say that Muslim are the richest people in the world but still yet they don't tithe?

Is there any where it is in the bible where God say pay you tithe cause I own that 10percent or it belongs to me?

Is there any law in the bible that instruct all Believers of God/Christ to pay tithe?

Does the likes of mark zukerberg, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett etc has ever come out or a church come out to say they tithe? ( Mind you all the people give freely even if it means stock market falling )
Lot of questions to ask am still not understanding.

If you want to pay tithe.... it is good...
If you dont pay... it is not a sin ...
The central rule by Christ is to Love your neighbor as yourself
If we can follow this simple law, then no one will have a problem in giving out......
Bill Gates Warren Buffet etc added value and people are willing to pay for it....
Thats the central point of building wealth...
These rick folks understand that God make them rich...
So they can help poor people.....

OkCornel I see you o.

clemzo101:
that's my point exactly. If you talk, they will say that you need holy spirit to understand. But Malachi 3:10 doesn't require holy spirit, they quite it verbatim

Lol, they are fraudulent liars.

CaveAdullam:
OkCornel I see you o.

Lol, brotherly...happy Sunday

OkCornel:


Lol, brotherly...happy Sunday

I am still waiting for you to forward the mail in regards to this topic on tithing. In case you have forgotten, my address m:

CaveAdullam:
I am still waiting for you to forward the mail in regards to this topic on tithing. In case you have forgotten, my address is watchmanjesse5002@gmail.com

Ah my bro, sorry...I’ll send it. Cheers

kimco:


Rubbish, simply Rubbish.

Let's say you found out that the money you give the church is used in dealing in guns and drugs and pushing political agenda..would you continue to give the money because its one of the duties of a christian? Which God blesses a giver who sees their seeds not being used properly, doesn't speak yet continue to give, hence, reinforcing the bad behaviour? Is that who Yahweh is? I think not. Revise your thoughts and speak up, better yet, act up. Let them know you care....the poor from whose mouth they steal from will forever be grateful to you. Small small things will change and the wrongs will be righted.
But if you don't speak up...the blood of the poor, those who deserve the help, the money, would be upon your hands as well as the church's.

Remember, evil men succeed because good men refuse to act.

The reason Nigerians continue to lavish in poverty is ignorant, no wonder the Bible speaking says my people parish for lack of knowledge. They say whatever they do with the tithe/money is their business and should not be questioned......the worst blain-washing and so ridiculous,
Until the Blackman realize that Christianity is selfless and not selfishness, poverty will continue to be our problem.
Selfishness is the major problem of the black man

jesusjnr:
The bolded made me laugh because that's what you ended up doing.

I agree with you though that we ought to go back to the example of that church that Jesus built.

Thanks and God bless.

I don't think you get what I was trying to say. And I don't think you know the difference between church and ecclesia.

I would advise you read this
https://www.nairaland.com/5546719/supposed-doing-church-practicing-ecclesia

Pauldollars:
One of your duties as a Christian is to make sure you always give your tithes and God will bless you abundantly (Read Malachi 3:10) How the money is being used by the Church should not be your concern. BTW it is good that you give your tithes in the church that spiritually nourishes you...not just any random Penterascal church which have no business propagating the gospel of Jesus Christ.

where is it written in the Bible? The Bible spell it out how the tithes should be spend but our pastors didn't follow it because its not favor them.

Hiswordxray:

I don't think you get what I was trying to say. And I don't think you know the difference between church and ecclesia.

I would advise you read this
https://www.nairaland.com/5546719/supposed-doing-church-practicing-ecclesia

Ok sorry. I thought you were talking about the church that Jesus built.

Thanks.

Let me show u where u got it all wrong. Ur preaching of tithing is rather from ur sentiment than being what the Bible really teaches. The early Christians indeed paid 100% and they all benefitted equally from it but u pay just 10% to ur pastor and he does chop alone with it. For u to know Christians are not to pay tithe. If we are still under the obligation of tithe, the early Christians would have rather collected 10% and not 100%. In this wise, people should now choose either the early Christians were wrong or u that u do 10% this days unlike the early Christians is the one right. Your write up obviously proof that early Christians didn't pay tithe, that means 8f I didn't pay tithe like them, I'm justified. Unless u want to say the cause of malachi is on them.

Meanwhile, paying 100% by the early Christians wasn't an obligation or law... It was clearly stated in the Bible that if u offer sparingly, u will reap sparingly and if u offer bountifully, u will reap bountiful ly. Now think of what happens to what offers everything.

Now, this is to tell u that the body of christ is where good offering even beyond 10% and as much as 100% is offer for the equal benefit of the whole congregation and not just to build churches and create wealth for pastors.

The church of christ is very different from the temple and synagogue which is of the law. When the church was established, the law of tithing had come to an end. Jesus didn't speak against tithing because His church was yet to be established.

The principle of tithing today is extortion and ungodly, remember, if Jesus or Paul or Peter that are not levites collected tithe, they would have been accused of taking the birth rights of the levites

Christians, think and stop being fooled by ur gullible pastors

Ishilove:
There's nothing anybody in this life can tell that will make me stop tithing. All these carnal arguments swayed me, until I got a divine revelation that reset my brain and now I NEVER miss a payment.

you only got divine malaria. Don't be deceived

OkCornel:


Ah my bro, sorry...I’ll send it. Cheers

please do, I'm waiting patiently.

Pauldollars:
One of your duties as a Christian is to make sure you always give your tithes and God will bless you abundantly (Read Malachi 3:10) How the money is being used by the Church should not be your concern. BTW it is good that you give your tithes in the church that spiritually nourishes you...not just any random Penterascal church which have no business propagating the gospel of Jesus Christ.

By this statement, will it be right to say while it's good to pay our tax to the government for the betterment/development of our society and if the people in government decides to misuse the money the way they are doing today...we should not ask them why, and let God ask them or it should be between them and God

Lordkratus:
you only got divine malaria. Don't be deceived

There's no devine revelation anywhere except u want to get satanic revelation that will give u ur own concept of tithing and make u create ur new style of denominational church (in the saying of - as the spirit leads) and keeps dividing the church.

All u need is to study the Bible well and study on how things were going on in the church so as to use that to guide urself. The Bible is clear except u prefer ur sentimental believe or u would rather listen to ur pastors or you are deceiving urself. Don't wait till it's too late. No practise of tithing was found by the early Christians. Tithe is unto the Israelites and u are never an Israelite... U are more of gentile that is 9f no obligation 5o do according to the law unto the Israelites. Only abide in the doctrine of christ that u might truly have christ 1jn v 9

Segee001:


There's no devine revelation anywhere except u want to get satanic revelation that will give u ur own concept of tithing and make u create ur new style of denominational church (in the saying of - as the spirit leads) and keeps dividing the church.

All u need is to study the Bible well and study on how things were going on in the church so as to use that to guide urself. The Bible is clear except u prefer ur sentimental believe or u would rather listen to ur pastors or you are deceiving urself. Don't wait till it's too late. No practise of tithing was found by the early Christians. Tithe is unto the Israelites and u are never an Israelite... U are more of gentile that is 9f no obligation 5o do according to the law unto the Israelites. Only abide in the doctrine of christ that u might truly have christ 1jn v 9

everyone one is entitled to their beliefs young man

MisterKings:


Good questions brother. I stopped paying my tithe a few months ago because I do not see the essence.

This tithe issue was meant to feed the then levites in the Bible because they did not work and all they did was serve God on behalf of the people.

Now how we follow through with this tithe issue so closely is what baffles me. This is something that belongs to the old testament. If we are considering old testament doctrines why do we skip sacrifices and burnt offerings and many other doctrines that follow.

Jesus never mentioned anything about tithe let's not deceive ourselves. That he said give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God is not enough to say he was referring to tithing. All he preached about was love.

So it is stupid to tell a brother in need that you do not have money to pay his medical bills but you have tithe to give to God. That is just plain hypocrisy.

Tithe is old testament and it is a cultural thing for the jews not for this day and age.

If anything bad is happening to anyone and they think it's as a result of not paying tithe, it's just their minds playing tricks on them.

Like you rightly said the likes of Bill Gates do not pay tithe, they give out of free will. These people have never said the source of their wealth and blessings is as a result of the tithe they pay or attendance to any religion.

I respect the devout Muslims. The true ones. I have eaten their Salah food many times when one time in my life I was broke and working as a security guard. I went with my plate and they did not ask me if I was Muslim as a matter of fact these people were agberos in the market then and they saw nothing wrong with giving us food.

Christians only speak and never act. Ask for help from a Christian and he will tell you stupid things like - God bless you, God is in control, I am rich, it shall be well, let us pray.

How does that solve my problem?

This one weak me....and I have noticed all the scripture they quote are either talking to one tribe or the other and not everyone in general...may God help us Christian and may God also help us to help ourselves cause it pains me to say Christians hardly help each other.

The only thing that baffles me is that the origin of tithing in the old testament is explanatory enough and it's of different types;

The three different types are as follows:

1. The Levitical, or sacred tithe (Num. 18: 21, 24).

2. The tithe of the feasts (Deut. 14:22-27).

3. The tithe for the poor (Deut. 14:28, 29).

I wonder why our current pastors focus mainly on number 1.

Truefaith:
Tithes are the financial face of fake Christianity



Occult people we call pastors latch on it to make their killing

But it is essentially designed, and promoted, to displace Christ as the Source of God's blessings to His people

Or do you have anywhere in your Bible where Paul or Peter or John asked anyone to pay tithes to them so God might bless them?




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God bless you i wonder how people when majority come to know this so called yahoo pastors are occultic its a matter of time

ekestic1976:
Tithing in contemporary times has NEVER been a GOOD thing. It's a ploy designed by the Devil himself to wrest from the hold of simpletons their hard-earned money to give to his calculating children, the so-called pastors. No creature of God can receive anything from Him except through FAITH, no matter how hard they wish to impress Him with giving of their resources and time. "The Just Shall Live By His Faith"! (Have you ever pondered the reason for the sudden contemporary emphasis on tithing? I'm over 60 years of age - things weren't done this way when we're growing up!). The Good Shepherd never for once paid tithe. But He paid a tax to Government; now, how many church-owners pay tax now? How many of the tithers pay tax?

They dont want to pay sir but want to collect tithes n offering i guess they are also part of the nigerian numerous problems

twilliamx:
Am a real estate consultant! I have a house that am managing in gbagada, the house has been vacant for over 2months with no one to take it, but on Tuesday I went to the house and I said a prayer that if God helps me let the house before friday, I will pay 20% as my tithe to someone in need, my brothers and sisters I had 2 serious interest and one of them paid on friday after waiting for over 2 months, don't be decieved by what negative men say, you should fill your obligations to God and he will fulfills his, it doesn't concern you what the recipient of tithe does with it, that is between them God.

From this testimony you had a convenant with God with a promise to HELP someone in need correct? Now see you did something Good couldn't turn his eyes away from and what he has asked you to always do HELP people no matter who they are.... don't you pay tithe before now?

But when there was a convenant something happened check all the men in the bible God used there was a convenant.

RiyadhGoddess:
I pay tithe and I will continue to pay tithe till I meet with my maker.
The good thing is, I'm no longer on 10% but 20% and it is my prayer for God to give me the Grace and resources to do far above 20%.
All contributions to God's Kingdom & assignment will not pass me by.
The kingdom will not suffer bankruptcy not in my time.
I will do more for the kingdom!

Modified- I came back to say a Big thank you to everyone paying their tithe in your various local churches. May God Bless you greatly.
Also to those who wants to pay tithe but do not have the resources, may God Bless you beyond recognition. Lastly, to those of you who do not pay tithe because Daddy freeze says you shouldn't pay tithe or because the social media kicks against it or whatever irrelevant reasons, I want to say Thank you too for not paying your tithe. It only shows that God doesn't need your tithe to keep his kingdom going. As you already know or can see, You pay your tithe, you don't pay your tithe, THE CHURCH IS MARCHING ON!!!
DAALU

dats why women are the number one maga in the church keep paying una kuku love pastor pass una husband and family na today

spirul77:
I am not for or against tithing o but what I'm curious to know is, was Christianity not introduced to us by Europeans? I was speaking with a female pastor of a Pentecostal church from Poland and she told me they don't pay tithe because it's Old Testament and they only pay offering, so it got me wondering........do we now know the Bible more than the people that introduced it to us?

hmmmm.....a guy too said same thing in a german church they did not collect offering or tithe he said he was shocked i suspect something is wrong somewhere

Tithing is a Jewish tradition God gave them so that they continue to remember how God brought them from Egypt.
The tithing was restricted to those who till the ground and those who tend to animals that chew the curd so not all Jews were required to give it.

There was nowhere in the new testament that Jesus and his apostles gave or requested or even encouraged for tithes from the early Christians, they were only told to give whatever they have to help others who are in need.

OkCornel:


I only know of spirit led freewill giving (from a cheerful heart) not pegged at any particular percentage of one's earnings as the basis for giving under the new covenant.

2 Corinthians 9 v 7;
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Acts 4 v 34-35;
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.


That being said, I'm still awaiting
1) Scriptural examples of gentile believers that tithed in the new covenant
2) I'm awaiting where God changed the standard of tithing from agro-produce as clearly stated in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29, into money the wolves in shepherd's clothing are currently soliciting for.

God bless you for stating this, problem is this, most Christians don't even know anything about the Bible, all they know is what the pastor preached.
When it's time for tithes, they'd only quote that verse in Malachi and would never quote that verse in Deuteronomy.

OkCornel:


Hey bro, good morning. Been a while.

Quick question to ask, who were those instructions for specifically, everyone who followed Jesus?

Let’s also relate this with Matthew 23 v 23.

Me thinks if this instruction applied to all the followers of Jesus, perhaps the Roman centurion whom Jesus healed his son for example would have resigned from his position, sold all his possessions to follow Jesus.

Perhaps Zaccheus would have gone beyond just restitutions, he should have resigned from his lucrative tax collecting job, sold off all his possessions to follow Jesus.

Let’s look at those instructions closely and see if it’s for every believer to follow. Or for a certain set of people, and what were the circumstances that led Jesus into advising them to do so.

Jah bless.

Good morning bro. I hope you are good?

The reason i asked you was because you were talking about freewill giving concerning the church, so are you saying that giving in the church according to you is not compulsory?

And that you can decide to give or not and still be free and no consequences?

Because if not, then the giving you're talking about is no different from tithes, because even tithes is not by force but a choice as people can also decide to give if they chose to or not.

And concerning your questions of the instructions Jesus gave, i believe they are necessary for any one to enter into the kingdom of God, and it doesn't necessarily mean that they must live or give everything physically as you stated, but they must live or give everything at least mentally in obedience to God's Word just as Abraham had done in thr respect of Isaac without having to lose him physically.

So that instruction Jesus gave was meant for everyone who wanted to enter into the Kingdom of God to obey otherwise no entry. And that ought to be the standard for the church.

I believe that proved very factorial in the attitude and orientation of the first churchers who didn't behave as if they had anything of their own, which also reflected in their giving.

Thanks and God bless.

RiyadhGoddess:
I pay tithe and I will continue to pay tithe till I meet with my maker.
The good thing is, I'm no longer on 10% but 20% and it is my prayer for God to give me the Grace and resources to do far above 20%.
All contributions to God's Kingdom & assignment will not pass me by.
The kingdom will not suffer bankruptcy not in my time.
I will do more for the kingdom!

Modified- I came back to say a Big thank you to everyone paying their tithe in your various local churches. May God Bless you greatly.
Also to those who wants to pay tithe but do not have the resources, may God Bless you beyond recognition. Lastly, to those of you who do not pay tithe because Daddy freeze says you shouldn't pay tithe or because the social media kicks against it or whatever irrelevant reasons, I want to say Thank you too for not paying your tithe. It only shows that God doesn't need your tithe to keep his kingdom going. As you already know or can see, You pay your tithe, you don't pay your tithe, THE CHURCH IS MARCHING ON!!!
DAALU

scriptural references where the new covenant Christians are mandated to pay tithes or where the early Apostles or ministers collected tithes?

This is what we asked of.

Thanks.

God bless.