EMILO2STAY: why do you keep beating about the bush, the flat earth truth is not new to the world, what is new is the globe earth lie. There were flat earth maps before any globe earth map it has nothing to do with religion. Every tribe and nations believed the earth to flat. The globe earth lie is only about 500hundred yds now, but since the beginning of time man has always believed the earth to be flat and stationary.
There is nothing like it was edited for contrast. It is photoshopped. The several pictures of earth from all these space stations prove all the images are photoshopped. if you say otherwise then you are just being biased. Like I said man has not been beyond low earth orbit so how did they manage to get enough distance to to get a clear shot of the earth from space??.
I know all the so called proofs of the ball earth and have debunked all. All the experiments done to prove the sphericity of the earth has failed but instead proved it to be flat and stationary. You think I have always believed the earth to flat? No! I once believed it to be a ball just as they said. But the evidence doesn't add up plus it doesn't make sense and also doesn't explain why every thing on the earth stands upright instead of side ways or upside down.
If you say it is not possible to see the curvature from the surface then why do ships disappearing across the horizon seen as proof of the curvature of the ball earth?. Why does the horizon stay on the eye level on a plane even when it get to more than 35000ft an ocurrance which is not possible on a curved surface. How does water stay on a ball? How does the vacuum of space meet with the non vacuum of earth , do you know anything about thermo dynamics or enthropy?? . How does the ISS move in vacuum of space?? How come air plane fly level on the earth till they get to their destination with out having to curve at interval to account foe the curvature. If bullets accounts for the rotation of the earth, how come airplanes flying at a more slower speed does not account for the rotation, how come aircraft flying from east to west get to their destination at the same time as the one flying from east to east if the earth is rotating counter clock wise?? Oga pls go and do a proper research and stop wasting my time. If you think I have not approached this the scientific way then you have not been reading my post. I did not even approach it on a religious way for you to say I am more religious than scientific that an ignorant statement. They give you different version of the earth with different colors without the so called thousands of satelites orbit it and you believe, telling me it was edited for contrast.
if you believe that a himawari is taking pictures of a ball from beyond low earth orbit which NASA has admitted they haven't reached yet, then good luck with your belief. Besides the image you posted is a joke if you think that looks like an oblate sphere or a pear Niel degrass tyson was talking about..
EMILO2STAY: if you believe that a himawari is taking pictures of a ball from beyond low earth orbit which NASA has admitted they haven't reached yet, then good luck with your belief. Besides the image you posted is a joke if you think that looks like an oblate sphere or a pear Niel degrass tyson was talking about..
I'm saying the Earth is flat from those pictures.
I believe it now. I've done research and experiments. All leads to the flat Earth.
But one thing is missing, please link me to a good Flat Earth resource for the true model of the flat Earth. So I can convince others.
EMILO2STAY: try looking for this book or download a short p. D. F version online. And got to YouTube and search for flat earth by Eric Dubay, he has a six hour video on flat earth proof.
Ok you're getting me wrong
I'm looking for the AGREED FLAT EARTH MODEL I've seen proof upon proof.
EMILO2STAY: why do you keep beating about the bush, the flat earth truth is not new to the world, what is new is the globe earth lie. There were flat earth maps before any globe earth map it has nothing to do with religion. Every tribe and nations believed the earth to flat. The globe earth lie is only about 500hundred yds now, but since the beginning of time man has always believed the earth to be flat and stationary.
There is nothing like it was edited for contrast. It is photoshopped. The several pictures of earth from all these space stations prove all the images are photoshopped. if you say otherwise then you are just being biased. Like I said man has not been beyond low earth orbit so how did they manage to get enough distance to to get a clear shot of the earth from space??.
I know all the so called proofs of the ball earth and have debunked all. All the experiments done to prove the sphericity of the earth has failed but instead proved it to be flat and stationary. You think I have always believed the earth to flat? No! I once believed it to be a ball just as they said. But the evidence doesn't add up plus it doesn't make sense and also doesn't explain why every thing on the earth stands upright instead of side ways or upside down.
If you say it is not possible to see the curvature from the surface then why do ships disappearing across the horizon seen as proof of the curvature of the ball earth?. Why does the horizon stay on the eye level on a plane even when it get to more than 35000ftYou start seeing curvature from around 40000ftan ocurrance which is not possible on a curved surface. How does water stay on a ball? Gravity How does the vacuum of space meet with the non vacuum of earth , do you know anything about thermo dynamics or enthropy?? . Earth is actually losing atmosphere as we speak. Google itHow does the ISS move in vacuum of space?? Earths gravity hilds in in orbit. How come air plane fly level on the earth till they get to their destination with out having to curve at interval to account foe the curvature. Again, gravity holds it in orbit. If bullets accounts for the rotation of the earth, how come airplanes flying at a more slower speed does not account for the rotation, how come aircraft flying from east to west get to their destination at the same time as the one flying from east to east if the earth is rotating counter clock wise?? They don't .Oga pls go and do a proper research and stop wasting my time. If you think I have not approached this the scientific way then you have not been reading my post. I did not even approach it on a religious way for you to say I am more religious than scientific that an ignorant statement. They give you different version of the earth with different colors without the so called thousands of satelites orbit it and you believe, telling me it was edited for contrast.
All your so-called proofs can be debunked in seconds. the thing is most flat earthers don't even bother trying, they just watch YouTube videos and that's it. Man believing in flat earth at a time when eclipses were seen as the end of the world proves nothing, it only shows how primitive astronomy was back then.
abbeg: All your so-called proofs can be debunked in seconds. the thing is most flat earthers don't even bother trying, they just watch YouTube videos and that's it. Man believing in flat earth at a time when eclipses were seen as the end of the world proves nothing, it only shows how primitive astronomy was back then.
You don't see curvature till about 40000ft, higher than commercial jetliners are allowed to fly. Water stays on earth due to gravity. It's not rocket science. Or do you expect it to flow to Antarctica? Is Antarctica the "bottom" of earth? Does space have a top or bottom? Earth is actually losing atmosphere to the vacuum of space. We don't notice because there is so much of it. Also, space isn't exactly empty. Planes don't dip every now and then because they are in earths 'orbit'. Like a stone tied to a string and being whirled around. The ISS is also in earths orbit, held by earths gravity. The pictures of earth aren't fake, they are composite pictures. That's why they look slightly different. You need to go REALLY far away to get a full picture. If you need a full picture they exist online, mostly taken from deep space satellites.
These are all from the top of my head. If you need more just refer it to me. Also, it seems no flat earther knows how Photoshop works. With Photoshop, you can give a model for example brighter skin, maybe widen her hips, or make her look skinnier. Get it? She already has to be beautiful for it to work. You don't create entirely new things with Photoshop. So a picture of earth can't be "photoshopped" into appearing round. It already has to be spherical for it to work. And it also can't be CGI, as CGI only started appearing realistic around 15 yrs ago. Pictures of the earth have existed since the 60s.
And please, I'd like you to explain how a lunar\solar eclipse works with a flat earth model. Also, explain how the north and south poles sometimes have endless days or nights with flat earth model. Oh, and why can't I see the burj khalifa in Dubai from where I stand? Why are ships taught to fire over the horizon if it doesn't exist?
You don't see curvature till about 40000ft, higher than commercial jetliners are allowed to fly. Water stays on earth due to gravity. It's not rocket science. Or do you expect it to flow to Antarctica? Is Antarctica the "bottom" of earth? Does space have a top or bottom? Earth is actually losing atmosphere to the vacuum of space. We don't notice because there is so much of it. Also, space isn't exactly empty. Planes don't dip every now and then because they are in earths 'orbit'. Like a stone tied to a string and being whirled around. The ISS is also in earths orbit, held by earths gravity. The pictures of earth aren't fake, they are composite pictures. That's why they look slightly different. You need to go REALLY far away to get a full picture. If you need a full picture they exist online, mostly taken from deep space satellites.
These are all from the top of my head. If you need more just refer it to me. Also, it seems no flat earther knows how Photoshop works. With Photoshop, you can give a model for example brighter skin, maybe widen her hips, or make her look skinnier. Get it? She already has to be beautiful for it to work. You don't create entirely new things with Photoshop. So a picture of earth can't be "photoshopped" into appearing round. It already has to be spherical for it to work. And it also can't be CGI, as CGI only started appearing realistic around 15 yrs ago. Pictures of the earth have existed since the 60s.
And please, I'd like you to explain how a lunar\solar eclipse works with a flat earth model. Also, explain how the north and south poles sometimes have endless days or nights with flat earth model. Oh, and why can't I see the burj khalifa in Dubai from where I stand? Why are ships taught to fire over the horizon if it doesn't exist?
you are indeed a Jonny just come pls go through my threads and learn. I have debunked all these and can't go through them again.
EMILO2STAY: you are indeed a Jonny just come pls go through my threads and learn. I have debunked all these and can't go through them again.
What have your debunked? If you know he is jonny just come, why not debunk them once again and answer his questions? Many other jonny just comes will stumble across this thread in the future. Have you ever heard a lecturer tell a new student, that he had already taught the topic, and so should look for his past notes or book?
Oya debunk his questions once again; Explain how the north and south poles sometimes have endless days or nights with flat earth model.
Why can't I see the burj khalifa in Dubai from where I stand? Or mount everest?
Explain how a lunar\solar eclipse works with a flat earth model.
In addition debunk these; What is the shape of the moon - flat or round, and how far away is it?
What is the shape of the sun - flat or round, and how far away is it? What is the shape of all other objects in the sky or the universe? - Flat or round?
Are you insinuating that we are living in a 2 dimensional world?
Which physics model account for the sun, moon and all the other objects in the sky rising in the East and setting in the west over a 12 hour period? Where do they go for the other 12 hours when we don't see them?
What have your debunked? If you know he is jonny just come, why not debunk them once again and answer his questions? Many other jonny just comes will stumble across this thread in the future. Have you ever heard a lecturer tell a new student, that he had already taught the topic, and so should look for his past notes or book?
Oya debunk his questions once again; Explain how the north and south poles sometimes have endless days or nights with flat earth model.
Why can't I see the burj khalifa in Dubai from where I stand? Or mount everest?
Explain how a lunar\solar eclipse works with a flat earth model.
EMILO2STAY: are you just waking up from your slumber? After watching the videos I gave you. Now you finally admit I am your teacher or lecturer
Well I don't get paid for this like lecturers do so i don't have the time to keep repeating myself.
You debunked by posting videos? You have been boasting that YOU have debunked all globe earth theories, and you now say you posted videos to watch. Are you the one that made the videos? It seems to do not even understand the videos you posted. You think people will have the time to watch some useless videos and then immediately believe whatever is said there in.
Maybe I should post long videos also as a response to your videos.
If you had any idea of what your videos are talking about, you would have taken each point and debunked them as you understand.
You debunked by posting videos? You have been boasting that YOU have debunked all globe earth theories, and you now say you posted videos to watch. Are you the one that made the videos? It seems to do not even understand the videos you posted. You think people will have the time to watch some useless videos and then immediately believe whatever is said there in.
Maybe I should post long videos also as a response to your videos.
If you had any idea of what your videos are talking about, you would have taken each point and debunked them as you understand.
ohh really, so the videos were saying something different from what I said they were right? Tell me another joke
EMILO2STAY: how does the videos I posted to you go against what I said they were?
Because the videos are someone else's opinion, and there are millions of videos on YouTube with hundreds of opinions. I want to debate your own opinion and understanding. It would be counter intuitive for us to be debating a subject using other people's videos. It is ok to post videos to provide source and to further explain your opinions, but to base the argument other other people's opinion is not acceptable.
Besides, most people don't like following links outside this site. Why is it so difficult for you to summarise your opinion of the what you understand from the video? Sometimes people have different understanding of the same evidence or source.
Because the videos are someone else's opinion, and there are millions of videos on YouTube with hundreds of opinions. I want to debate your own opinion and understanding. It would be counter intuitive for us to be debating a subject using other people's videos. It is ok to post videos to provide source and to further explain your opinions, but to base the argument other other people's opinion is not acceptable.
Besides, most people don't like following links outside this site. Why is it so difficult for you to summarise your opinion of the what you understand from the video? Sometimes people have different understanding of the same evidence or source.
see you are just running in circles. You asked me to post videos to confirm what I did said, I did now your saying they are someone else's opinion. My question still stand, how do those videos go against my words?
EMILO2STAY: see you are just running in circles. You asked me to post videos to confirm what I did said, I did now your saying they are someone else's opinion. My question still stand, how do those videos go against my words?
You said there is a video of a rocket hitting an invisible barrier when someone tried to launch a rocket into space, I asked you to show video proof, you posted a proof of an amateur rocket attempting but failing to launch into space. I answered that the video is untenable because an amateur rocket cannot beat the Earth's gravity and launch into space, because it takes huge velocity (11km/s) to break the Earth's gravity. NASA's rocket has 3 different rockets to launch into space. The 3 fuel tanks as high as a five story building. The space capsule to be launched into space sits atop the fuel tanks. That's why each space launch costs tens if not hundreds of millions. That video has been debunked. What I am saying is you can used videos to support your opinion, but not make the videos the opinion
Below is the rocket for launching the apollo capsule into space.
You said there is a video of a rocket hitting an invisible barrier when someone tried to launch a rocket into space, I asked you to show video proof, you posted a proof of an amateur rocket attempting but failing to launch into space. I answered that the video is untenable because an amateur rocket cannot beat the Earth's gravity and launch into space, because it takes huge velocity (11km/s) to break the Earth's gravity. NASA's rocket has 3 different rockets to launch into space. The 3 fuel tanks as high as a five story building. The space capsule to be launched into space sits atop the fuel tanks. That's why each space launch costs tens if not hundreds of millions. That video has been debunked. What I am saying is you can used videos to support your opinion, but not make the videos the opinion
Below is the rocket for launching the apollo capsule into space.
the video was debunked? By who, the go pro 2014 rocket launch went 73 miles up hit a barrier and stopped. 73 miles up and the moon was seen at the dark side of the earth which was impossible to be seen on a globe earth.
It was very clear the rocket hit a barrier, if you want to live in denial then be my guest
EMILO2STAY: the video was debunked? By who, the go pro 2014 rocket launch went 73 miles up hit a barrier and stopped. 73 miles up and the moon was seen at the dark side of the earth which was impossible to be seen on a globe earth.
It was very clear the rocket hit a barrier, if you want to live in denial then be my guest
Yes, the video has been debunked. Even the person who posted the video who happens to be a flat earther debunked his own video. People thought the rocket hit something because the rocket suddenly stopped spinning, and the rocket stopped spinning because of a stabilisation mechanism installed by the manufacturer. It was all explained by the person that posted the video. The rocket was eventually recovered and there was no evidence of it hitting anything.
Yes, the video has been debunked. Even the person who posted the video who happens to be a flat earther debunked his own video. People thought the rocket hit something because the rocket suddenly stopped spinning, and the rocket stopped spinning because of a stabilisation mechanism installed by the manufacturer. It was all explained by the person that posted the video. The rocket was eventually recovered and there was no evidence of it hitting anything.
if in all honesty you really think that was a debunking, then you are just as gullible as I think you to be rockets don't have brakes. The people who sent it up have no reason to stop it mid air. Rockets don't stop suddenly when going at that speed. Even cars with brakes don't stop immediately. The rocket made an impact and the sound could be heard when it suddenly stopped. If you believe the ball earther propaganda video then I am not surprised why you believe the ball earth theory
EMILO2STAY: if in all honesty you really think that was a debunking, then you are just as gullible as I think you to be rockets don't have brakes. The people who sent it up have no reason to stop it mid air. Rockets don't stop suddenly when going at that speed. Even cars with brakes don't stop immediately. The rocket made an impact and the sound could be heard when it suddenly stopped. If you believe the ball earther propaganda video then I am not surprised why you believe the ball earth theory
You need serious psychological evaluation, your mind seems trapped in an alternative reality. The person that posted the the original video explained with proof why the rocket suddenly stopped spinning and looked like it stopped, yet your mind is unable to accept it.
Here is the person that posted the original video and his explanation of what happened.
You need serious psychological evaluation, your mind seems trapped in an alternative reality. The person that posted the the original video explained with proof why the rocket suddenly stopped spinning and looked like it stopped, yet your mind is unable to accept it.
Here is the person that posted the original video and his explanation of what happened.
you are the one not getting it. The person who posted the video isn't the person who launched the rocket!!!. Besides that is not even the original video.
What have your debunked? If you know he is jonny just come, why not debunk them once again and answer his questions? Many other jonny just comes will stumble across this thread in the future. Have you ever heard a lecturer tell a new student, that he had already taught the topic, and so should look for his past notes or book?
Oya debunk his questions once again; Explain how the north and south poles sometimes have endless days or nights with flat earth model.
Why can't I see the burj khalifa in Dubai from where I stand? Or mount everest?
Explain how a lunar\solar eclipse works with a flat earth model.
In addition debunk these; What is the shape of the moon - flat or round, and how far away is it?
What is the shape of the sun - flat or round, and how far away is it? What is the shape of all other objects in the sky or the universe? - Flat or round?
Are you insinuating that we are living in a 2 dimensional world?
Which physics model account for the sun, moon and all the other objects in the sky rising in the East and setting in the west over a 12 hour period? Where do they go for the other 12 hours when we don't see them?
Oya Mr. debunker, start debunking.
Sir, this guy is a joke. Go check out his other flat earth thread and see how me and some other guys are shooting him to pieces. Now his best comeback is "go and sleep" LOL
You debunked by posting videos? You have been boasting that YOU have debunked all globe earth theories, and you now say you posted videos to watch. Are you the one that made the videos? It seems to do not even understand the videos you posted. You think people will have the time to watch some useless videos and then immediately believe whatever is said there in.
Maybe I should post long videos also as a response to your videos.
If you had any idea of what your videos are talking about, you would have taken each point and debunked them as you understand.
You are wasting your time.
He will give you videos to watch, he won't watch the videos you give him.
He had gone deep into the rabbit hole if "you tube algorithm"
He has never performed his own experiments but the skewed experiments done by bias flat earthers. He doesn't understand the scale of the size of the earth. Everything you tell him is a lie, and you're lying to him. They claim the scientists are lying to them. I've asked for what reason. I've asked questions he said he can debunk all of them. He didn't, instead of his own words he brought unverified unproven text from a conspiracy website.
I've analysed him and found out he had no own knowledge of how the world works also from what he's been told from the flat earthers.
I've gone through many flat Earth videos but they
1. Have no idea of basic math and geometry. (They don't ever use this)
2. Have problems with scale. The size of the earth compared to them the don't understand how tiny they are to the earth.
3. Hold on to conspiracy. Then still haven't told me why there's need to hide the nature of the earth to everyone. The nature of the earth has absolutely 0 value to anyone. Hiding it won't enslave anyone or make you richer, or make the purple revolt.
4. Nikon p900 is their only telescope. They have refused to purchase real telescopes. I've seen utube videos where someone claimed stars are like lamps. He used Nikon to zoom .
4. There's no working model of the flat Earth. The model of the flat Earth falls apart when asked questions on eclipses. And many other questions.
5. Flat Earth Movement is more of a religious movement than a scientific one. Haven't your wondered that none of the flat earthers have any serious qualifications and very less intelligent? I mean just a tad more intelligent than a slowpoke. It's not an insult. They have very poor spatial intelligence. Even when presented with facts they are still adamant. Religious fanatic people are dumb. If you show them that the horizon is not eye level with tools, they will say it's still eye level to them. If you take them 50,000ft in space and show them, they will say they are under influence of drugs, test them to prove they are not drugged, they will say it's undetectable. You can't win against religious people.
I've done experiments, that took years and some that took me to disturb people in different time zones. I'm now that convinced that the earth is not flat. They can do skewed video experiments, they cannot confuse me cos I did mine and the result is earth is sphere.
He will give you videos to watch, he won't watch the videos you give him.
He had gone deep into the rabbit hole if "you tube algorithm"
He has never performed his own experiments but the skewed experiments done by bias flat earthers. He doesn't understand the scale of the size of the earth. Everything you tell him is a lie, and you're lying to him. They claim the scientists are lying to them. I've asked for what reason. I've asked questions he said he can debunk all of them. He didn't, instead of his own words he brought unverified unproven text from a conspiracy website.
I've analysed him and found out he had no own knowledge of how the world works also from what he's been told from the flat earthers.
I've gone through many flat Earth videos but they
1. Have no idea of basic math and geometry. (They don't ever use this)
2. Have problems with scale. The size of the earth compared to them the don't understand how tiny they are to the earth.
3. Hold on to conspiracy. Then still haven't told me why there's need to hide the nature of the earth to everyone. The nature of the earth has absolutely 0 value to anyone. Hiding it won't enslave anyone or make you richer, or make the purple revolt.
4. Nikon p900 is their only telescope. They have refused to purchase real telescopes. I've seen utube videos where someone claimed stars are like lamps. He used Nikon to zoom .
4. There's no working model of the flat Earth. The model of the flat Earth falls apart when asked questions on eclipses. And many other questions.
5. Flat Earth Movement is more of a religious movement than a scientific one. Haven't your wondered that none of the flat earthers have any serious qualifications and very less intelligent? I mean just a tad more intelligent than a slowpoke. It's not an insult. They have very poor spatial intelligence. Even when presented with facts they are still adamant. Religious fanatic people are dumb. If you show them that the horizon is not eye level with tools, they will say it's still eye level to them. If you take them 50,000ft in space and show them, they will say they are under influence of drugs, test them to prove they are not drugged, they will say it's undetectable. You can't win against religious people.
I've done experiments, that took years and some that took me to disturb people in different time zones. I'm now that convinced that the earth is not flat. They can do skewed video experiments, they cannot confuse me cos I did mine and the result is earth is sphere.
So don't waste your time.
So true. They think earth is some tiny ball where one can stand and see curvature for miles. They have no understanding of space whatsoever. And they all believe NASA is the only space agency on earth.
abbeg: So true. They think earth is some tiny ball where one can stand and see curvature for miles. They have no understanding of space whatsoever. And they all believe NASA is the only space agency on earth.
If you don't use math and science it's easy to think the earth is flat.
Give them questions and they will never answer. An example below
The flat earther blocked people from his channel. And comments on another's channels. When asked questions they will never give you their own answer but start pointing to other sources.
You debunked by posting videos? You have been boasting that YOU have debunked all globe earth theories, and you now say you posted videos to watch. Are you the one that made the videos? It seems to do not even understand the videos you posted. You think people will have the time to watch some useless videos and then immediately believe whatever is said there in.
Maybe I should post long videos also as a response to your videos.
If you had any idea of what your videos are talking about, you would have taken each point and debunked them as you understand.
ce was taken in 24 October 1946 - https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/the-first-photograph-of-earth-taken-from-space
2 dimensional world? 
?. Why does the horizon stay on the eye level on a plane even when it get to more than 35000ft
what I said they were?