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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Kapapa: 1:00pm On Dec 21, 2019
America as someone said is the headquarters of hypocrisy yet when they deny you their hypocritical visa you go home emotional down. I laugh

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by GoodBadandUgly(m): 1:03pm On Dec 21, 2019
Ideyontop:
Well done Mr President. We are not gay people, we don't recognize nor understand this way of life. God abhors it and so do we.

Exactly, you don't "understand" because you haven't educated yourself on the matter.
Who other people have sex with don't make YOU cum so why are you so bothered by people's PERSONAL sexual preference?

Your religion has turned you into an ignorant bigot who thinks they are entitled to impose primitive beliefs and police the lives of others in society.

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by CAPSLOCKED: 1:12pm On Dec 21, 2019
Godislove1234:


May God grant your heart desire. Since this is what's truly in your heart

OOOPPSS..
I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY GODS.

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Ideyontop: 1:13pm On Dec 21, 2019
GoodBadandUgly:


Exactly, you don't "understand" because you haven't educated yourself on the matter.
Who other people have sex with don't make YOU cum so why are you so bothered by people's PERSONAL sexual preference?

Your religion has turned you into an ignorant bigot who thinks they are entitled to impose primitive beliefs and police the lives of others in society.

I looked at your profile and i concluded that there was no need to say anything further to you....

People like you end up becoming pastors in the future....see you there.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by GoodBadandUgly(m): 1:18pm On Dec 21, 2019
Ideyontop:


I looked at your profile and i concluded that there was no need to say anything further to you....

People like you end up becoming pastors in the future....see you there.

You are a prejudice ignoramus for your statement. grin

I am too good of a human to be a pastor. I would never result to leeching off pocket change from the less fortunate by selling them hope, even if it was the last solution.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Elliot2(m): 1:23pm On Dec 21, 2019
4Play:


The examples you cite - murder, theft, pedophilia - involve cases where the perpetrator is acting without the consent of a victim (a child is unable to consent in the case of pedophilia). This is why it makes logical sense to condemn murder or theft.

In the case of gay people, Africans are claiming that what consenting adults do with one another is wrong because its "abnormal." But within straight relationships, lots of couples engage in abnormal things. The question is what is the logic in being outraged about consented behavior that doesn't affect others?

This thing about "promoting" homosexuality makes no sense to me since if you are straight, no one is going to convert you to a homosexual and the overwhelming majority of people will remain straight no matter the society (see western countries with a permissive outlook to homosexuals where heterosexuals remain the overwhelming majority). I suspect a lot of people who pursue this line of argument about westerners turning Africans gay harbour some homosexual inclinations themselves.
Let the US accept polygamy first before we do gay.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by themanderon: 1:36pm On Dec 21, 2019
lexy2014:


Pls name d countries in d world were d US have made their presidents "vanish into thin air" because of gay issue or any other issue? Y have d North Korean and Iranian leaders not "vanished into thin air" all these years?

You seem to have a jaundiced view about world politics. Those countries you quoted have their own peculiarities that has made the us adopt a different path towards dealing with them.
Like I said Google about the secret files of the CIA and their activities. Do you even know what the function of the CIA is? Those guys don't play nice.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by vivalavida(m): 1:43pm On Dec 21, 2019
oloriLFC:
yes I am. A homo with a cute husband and two adorable boys

Yes u are still a homo

In the right permissible environment, you will abandon that unfortunate man and kids and abscond with a woman.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2019
darkwan:


lipsrsealed lipsrsealed....
Is that all? You can't talk anymore, Suddenly? undecided
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 2:01pm On Dec 21, 2019
oloriLFC:
yes I am. A homo with a cute husband and two adorable boys
Very Nicely put grin .

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Godislove1234: 3:23pm On Dec 21, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:


OOOPPSS..
I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY GODS.
It doesn't matter what you believe. If your believe can't stop the sun from shining when it is supposed to and the moon from appearing when it is also supposed to, and if also your belief cannot make a single hair grow on a human or even tell me the exact time you fall asleep, then you have nothing to say to me. You're only trying to sound intelligent but really you have no idea of what you're doing.

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by gibzzhd: 3:32pm On Dec 21, 2019
hope4nigeria:
all that is for your father. Dumb gay.
My sexuality your problem?
hehehehe You must have better things to worry about.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 3:59pm On Dec 21, 2019
themanderon:


You seem to have a jaundiced view about world politics. Those countries you quoted have their own peculiarities that has made the us adopt a different path towards dealing with them.
Like I said Google about the secret files of the CIA and their activities. Do you even know what the function of the CIA is? Those guys don't play nice.

In your previous post, u said:

"They (the U.S.) can make a whole President vanish into thin air".

"My simple questions to u with regard to what u said were:
"Pls name d countries in d world were d US have made their presidents "vanish into thin air" because of gay issue or any other issue? Y have d North Korean and Iranian leaders not "vanished into thin air" all these years?"

For someone who believes he doesn't have a "jaundiced view about world politics", am surprised that u can't answer d questions. They are very simple straightforward questions that don't even need google search or your so-called secret files. Ur comment above didn't make any attempt to scratch d surface of d questions I asked.

NB: since u no d functions of d CIA &have access to their secret files, am surprised u couldn't use d knowledge u obtained therefrom to answer d simple questions I asked

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by CAPSLOCKED: 4:27pm On Dec 21, 2019
Godislove1234:

It doesn't matter what you believe. If your believe can't stop the sun from shining when it is supposed to and the moon from appearing when it is also supposed to, and if also your belief cannot make a single hair grow on a human or even tell me the exact time you fall asleep, then you have nothing to say to me. You're only trying to sound intelligent but really you have no idea of what you're doing.


SO YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY YOU'RE THE INTELLIGENT ONE BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN THE IMAGINARY GODS OF YOUR SLAVE MASTERS?

KAI.. NOTHING CAPSLOCKED NO GO SEE FOR PAMI JOINT. grin
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 5:07pm On Dec 21, 2019
wirinet:


You are just arguing here and there without any real logic. You are harping "polygamy is a criminal offense in the US" and so many families are displaying their polygamous lives on TV and on YouTube without anyone going to jail.
Sister Wives has been running for 15 years and non of the wives or husband is in jail.
The family even took the state of Utah to court over the legality of the state's polygamy laws, which they believe is against their rights. Although the courts dismissed the case, it did not called for them to be jailed.
Here is what the court said in its ruling;


You seem to have personal hatred for polygamy (and Homosexuality), but that's your personal problem. Others have been practising it in the open, even in the US without fear of going to jail.

Can u pls tell me what's wrong with me harping on "polygamy is a criminal offence in d US"? By harping on it, have I broken any law or have I said anything that isn't true? Am not responsible 4 ur happiness. If u are unhappy that am harping on it, y haven't been able to provide any fact to dispute it? Or is polygamy not a criminal offence in d US?

4d fact that u said I am harping on "polygamy is a criminal offence in d US", shows that I am consistent which contradicts ur claim that I am "arguing here and there without any logic". On d one hand, u said am consistent, on d hand u said am not, all on d same issue. How's that even possible?

Let's look at some of d things u have said to see if u even no what u are saying. In this write up about d sister wives, u said:

wirinet:

Sister Wives has been running for 15 years and non of the wives or husband is in jail.
The family even took the state of Utah to court over the legality of the state's polygamy laws, which they believe is against their rights. Although the courts dismissed the case, it did not called for them to be jailed.


In ur post, u said d court dismissed d case of d sister wives. But in ur earlier post, u shared an article that said:


"Sister Wives' Defeat Polygamy Law in Federal Court
A federal judge ruled late Friday that a key section of Utah law criminalizing polygamy is unconstitutional, granting multi-spouse families the right to live together without facing arrest, so long as they do not acquire multiple marriage licenses."


How can their case be dismissed and won at d same time? Also look at this below. It contradicts ur comment that d courts didn't call 4d arrest of sister wives. Y would d court be interested in calling for their arrest when it gave d ruling below which came from another post of yours?:


"U.S. District Court Judge Clark Waddoups ruled Utah's criminalization of cohabitation violated the due process and First Amendment religious freedom rights of the Brown family, which includes husband Kody Brown and his four wives."


When u look at this excerpt below from ur previous post, it shows that d authorities were out to apply d law as far as polygamy is concerned:

"The Browns are fundamentalist Mormons and the stars of TLC show "Sister Wives." They chose to leave their home in Lehi, Utah, after local police and prosecutors launched an investigation into their lifestyle in 2010. Before moving to Las Vegas, a deputy Utah County attorney said, "The Browns have definitely made it easier for us by admitting to felonies on national TV."

But here u are saying:

"so many families are displaying their polygamous lives on TV and on YouTube without anyone going to jail."

That is y I asked about 5 times, y did these ladies go to court in d first place but u weren't able to answer d question. If there was no fear of jail, then y did they go to court?

From d above, its obvious that am not d one "arguing here and there without any real logic".

wirinet:

You seem to have personal hatred for polygamy (and Homosexuality), but that's your personal problem.

We are talking about laws, laws which I didn't write. So I don't understand what this has got to do with d conversation. Or am I d author of d Morrill anti-bigamy act?
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 21, 2019
KanuSE:
What's wrong with being gay?
.there's nothing wrong man until you start wearing adult pampers and you get only God knows how many stitches to your anus
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 6:13pm On Dec 21, 2019
Penisman:


Mumuu mohamedian.

You go knack your head tire for ground.

Shebi you want fvck 72 virgins?
... walai e get one of my guy wet dey always talk that thing like there're actual virgins waiting for him..

I go cum dey whyne am xay, so na puccy you dey find go heaven xay him one turn heaven to one orgy groupie thing ni.

it cracks me up like hell

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 6:24pm On Dec 21, 2019
grandstar:


You think you better pass them?

There was a time when being gay in America could land you in an asylum. Even in the 1990s, if an actor or actress came out as gay, the person's career is over. That was what happened to Ellen Degeneres. She was even kicked out of the house by her parents when she told them she was gay. Till date, many parents disown child if they come out as gay. As a black woman told her transgender child, ''You'll be damned for this''. And so will fornicators, adulterers, drunks, greedy persons and so on.

. In the American army, anyone person found to be gay was dismissed. 12,000 military officers were dismissed yearly at a time because of this.

Sympathy and empathy towards gays just started developing in the 2000s in the USA. It was one of the last rich countries to allow gay marriage and that decision was passed not by the president or congress but by the Supreme Court if I'm correct.

Homosexuality has long existed in Africa. In the North, for instance, you have male Hausa prostitutes. The Yoruba word for a gay man existed before colonialism. When the British got to Uganda, the king was openly gay.

Many homosexuals just discover they prefer the same sex. Some realize this is young as 5! Many tried committing suicide as no one wants to be different. No one likes to be stigmatized. The guy in the picture below tried committing suicide.

You'd be surprised by the number of gay people you associate with every day. They just stay in the closet.

I'm not gay. But being properly informed is always good.



.is scoffield gay?? .. or why did you upload his pics
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by KanuSE: 6:24pm On Dec 21, 2019
biGDhAp:
.there's nothing wrong man until you start wearing adult pampers and you get only God knows how many stitches to your anus

How many have you seen wearing pads?

Yeye dey smell grin
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by Nobody: 6:30pm On Dec 21, 2019
KanuSE:


How many have you seen wearing pads?

Yeye dey smell grin
.. one just came to my pharmacy to get an adult pampers
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by KanuSE: 6:41pm On Dec 21, 2019
biGDhAp:
.. one just came to my pharmacy to get an adult pampers

Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by grandstar(m): 6:44pm On Dec 21, 2019
biGDhAp:
.is scoffield gay?? .. or why did you upload his pics

He is.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 6:57pm On Dec 21, 2019
KanuSE:
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It's clear that you have penchant for arguing blindly. Do you want to dismiss the fact that the US marriage laws recognises the rights of individuals to marry more than one wife based on religious grounds?

You must be feeling like some el Dorado. I repeat, people still marry more than one wife in the US based on religious or customary grounds.

U see that I wasn't wrong after all when I said earlier that u have run out of things to say. Pls what has my "feeling like some el Dorado" got to do with d discussion? Did u want to feel like some el Dorado and u couldn't? Am I d one preventing u from feeling like some el Dorado?

According to u, d US marriage law recognises polygamy based on religion & customary law yet u haven't been able to produce d name of that law. If that law exists, then it is a negation of d Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act which as at today has yet to be amended. I also shared with an excerpt from Wikipedia as at today that categorically and explicitly said that polygamy is illegal in all 50 states of d US. So far u haven't been able to produce any evidence to support your claims
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by KanuSE: 7:28pm On Dec 21, 2019
lexy2014:


U see that I wasn't wrong after all when I said earlier that u have run out of things to say. Pls what has my "feeling like some el Dorado" got to do with d discussion? Did u want to feel like some el Dorado and u couldn't? Am I d one preventing u from feeling like some el Dorado?

According to u, d US marriage law recognises polygamy based on religion & customary law yet u haven't been able to produce d name of that law. If that law exists, then it is a negation of d Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act which as at today has yet to be amended. I also shared with an excerpt from Wikipedia as at today that categorically and explicitly said that polygamy is illegal in all 50 states of d US. So far u haven't been able to produce any evidence to support your claims

You certainly have a problem with comprehension. I repeat, YES the US marriage law recognises the rights of individuals to marry more than one wife on religious and customary grounds. The only clause is that those exceptions are not sanctioned, that's why multiple licenses cannot be issued to the man (e.g. Muslim ) who chooses to marry more than one wife.

Are people penalised for exercising their rights to marry more than one wife based on religious and customary grounds?

Although illegal, where's the potency of the laws prohibiting polygamy or bigamy in the US.

Are you saying that there are no polygamous families in the US?

Are you saying that people are not allowed to marry more than one wife based on religious and customary grounds?

FYI, no one is disputing that polygamy isn't illegal so biko put your brain together.

Gosh!
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by themanderon: 7:31pm On Dec 21, 2019
lexy2014:


In your previous post, u said:

"They (the U.S.) can make a whole President vanish into thin air".

"My simple questions to u with regard to what u said were:
"Pls name d countries in d world were d US have made their presidents "vanish into thin air" because of gay issue or any other issue? Y have d North Korean and Iranian leaders not "vanished into thin air" all these years?"

For someone who believes he doesn't have a "jaundiced view about world politics", am surprised that u can't answer d questions. They are very simple straightforward questions that don't even need google search or your so-called secret files. Ur comment above didn't make any attempt to scratch d surface of d questions I asked.

NB: since u no d functions of d CIA &have access to their secret files, am surprised u couldn't use d knowledge u obtained therefrom to answer d simple questions I asked

I can't do that right now, that's why I referred you to do a Google search that's all.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 7:39pm On Dec 21, 2019
themanderon:


I can't do that right now, that's why I referred you to do a Google search that's all.

U can't do it because u don't have any idea about what u are saying
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by themanderon: 7:44pm On Dec 21, 2019
lexy2014:


U can't do it because u don't have any idea about what u are saying

You may have a lot of time on your hands but I don't that's why I referred you to Google, do your research as I did. I can't bottle feed you cos I don't have the time.
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 8:03pm On Dec 21, 2019
KanuSE:


You certainly have a problem with comprehension. I repeat, YES the US marriage law recognises the rights of individuals to marry more than one wife on religious and customary grounds. The only clause is that those exceptions are not sanctioned, that's why multiple licenses cannot be issued to the man (e.g. Muslim ) who chooses to marry more than one wife.

Are people penalised for exercising their rights to marry more than one wife based on religious and customary grounds?

Although illegal, where's the potency of the laws prohibiting polygamy or bigamy in the US.

Are you saying that there are no polygamous families in the US?

Are you saying that people are not allowed to marry more than one wife based on religious and customary grounds?

FYI, no one is disputing that polygamy isn't illegal so biko put your brain together.

Gosh!


When u talking about comprehension issues, pls look in d mirror. U keep repeating urself but u have no evidence to support ur claims. Pls quote d law in d US that supports d practice of polygamy based on religious and customary grounds. Its a simple assignment which u have failed over and over again.

If there's a law that supports polygamy in d US based on customs& religion, then that law is a negation of d Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act which as far as I no hasnt been amended. So if there's such a law, quote it. So am not d one who isn't using his brain.



U asked "Are you saying that there are no polygamous families in the US?" U have asked this b4& I answered u. Its like asking if there are no thieves in Nigeria despite d existence of laws that criminalise stealing. That's pedestrian.

Pls look at d screenshot below, once again from Wikipedia. It is quite explicit. Maybe if u don't understand words, pictures will help u resolve this question:

KanuSE:

Are you saying that people are not allowed to marry more than one wife based on religious and customary grounds?

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Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 8:11pm On Dec 21, 2019
themanderon:


You may have a lot of time on your hands but I don't that's why I referred you to Google, do your research as I did. I can't bottle feed you cos I don't have the time.

U can't bottle feed me because u don't have any bottle how much more food. If u have fed urself, then u can feed another. So far, u haven't even fed urself despite ur access to Google. Time shouldn't b an issue 4u because here u are responding. So don't give any excuses. D questions I asked u are simple based on ur comments & compared to ur "superior knowledge" on world affairs
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by KanuSE: 8:15pm On Dec 21, 2019
lexy2014:


When u talking about comprehension issues, pls look in d mirror. U keep repeating urself but u have no evidence to support ur claims. Pls quote d law in d US that supports d practice of polygamy based on religious and customary grounds. Its a simple assignment which u have failed over and over again.

If there's a law that supports polygamy in d US based on customs& religion, then that law is a negation of d Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act which as far as I no hasnt been amended. So if there's such a law, quote it. So am not d one who isn't using his brain.

U asked "Are you saying that there are no polygamous families in the US?" U have asked this b4& I answered u. Its like asking if there are no thieves in Nigeria despite d existence of laws that criminalise stealing. That's pedestrian.

Pls look at d screenshot below, once again from Wikipedia. It is quite explicit. Maybe if u don't understand words, pictures will help u resolve this question:


You have asked a foolish question coz how do you expect the body of law that prohibits something, to also enshrine same. Did you read this question to yourself b4 posting? undecided

You are yet to answer my questions but would rather spend time typing too many word without aim.

Now you have shot yasef in the foot, how dare you use the analogy of crime such as theft as comparison to the subject matter - are you okay at all?

You have penchant for arguing blindly - you need to be reminded.

Again, FYI, no one is disputing that polygamy isn't illegal in the US, so put your brain together and stop posting junks from Wikipedia.

Nawa o!
Re: Edgar Lungu Wants U.S. Ambassador Out Of The Country For Defending Gay Couple by lexy2014: 8:29pm On Dec 21, 2019
KanuSE:


You have asked a foolish question coz how do you expect the body of law that prohibits something, to also enshrine same. Did you read this question to yourself b4 posting? undecided

You are yet to answer my questions but would rather spend time typing too many word without aim.

Now you have shot yasef in the foot, how dare you use the analogy of crime such as theft as comparison to the subject matter - are you okay at all?

You have penchant for arguing blindly - you need to be reminded.

Again, FYI, no one is disputing that polygamy isn't illegal in the US, so put your brain together and stop posting junks from Wikipedia.

Nawa o!

Stop getting emotional. Pls quote d law in d US that supports polygamous marriage based on customs and religion. Is that too difficult for u to do? In d screenshot I shared with u, did u see any evidence of ur claim? Or are u saying d authors of d info I shared don't no what they are doing? If u feel Wikipedia is trash, then provide genuine info that negates my "trash". Its that simple. So far, u have nothing.

Its funny how u contradict urself. Check this out:

KanuSE:

coz how do you expect the body of law that prohibits something, to also enshrine same.

But u are d one who has always insisted that there are laws in d US that support polygamy based on culture and religion despite d existence of d Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act. What u said now is what I have been telling but here u are saying it. So who is now d foolish one?

There are laws in Nigeria that criminalise all sorts of criminal activities. Does that mean u won't still find people engage in those criminal activities? Relax. U getting urself all worked up

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